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Siakam is a pending free agent. $38 million expiring contract and that gives him some leverage in terms of where could he end up and him signaling to a team that wants to trade for him whether he's going to resign there or not. That's going to play a big part in these trade conversations that the Raptors are going to have that Siakam could have behind him. If a team knows that he's going to be willing to sign there, then you give the assets necessary like this deal, three first-run draft picks, the Pacers I'm told do not want to trade Benedict Matherin or Jaros Walker in this deal. That's why you see these three first-run draft picks. They feel pretty strongly I'm told about trying to resign Siakam as a free agent and that plays a part in this pretty significant offer. They're going to continue to be aggressive but still there's no deal yet and Siakam is at the top of their list because they move on to a guy like Jeremy Grant if this deal does not happen and who potentially trumps this offer that has been made by Indiana. February 8th is a trade deadline. This is where talks stand right now. Indiana is very much pushing and motivated to get a deal done. Okay, so there's a lot to unpack here Lou. I think the Siakam whether or not he wants to sign an extension anywhere is huge but let's just start with the three first-round picks. Is that a steep price you think Lou? Yeah, that's a lot you know considering you don't know what the future is going to be for this guy but you know Indiana is showing its hand they're telling you that we're ready to compete right now. We feel like this is a guy that's going to get us over the hump and so we don't really care what's in the future or what or things to come. They're trying to load this team up for a deep playoff run and Pascal Siakam he's one of those players that can fit in a lot of different systems. He's a hybrid you know you can fit him on any team in the league he's going to make a positive impact so I think this is a great look for them. You know they have a guy in Jalen Smith that said that said ten points in five ten in five right now you bring Siakam to that you get twenty two in five and you also get a guy that can play fast play up tempo like Indiana likes to play and on top of that have a defensive presence and so I think Indiana recognizes that and they're willing to take that sacrifice and draft picks and give themselves an opportunity to go get them. So, Shams the whole idea that he that Indiana feels confident in the fact that they would get him to sign an extension that sounds very optimistic but what do we know about Pascal Siakam's ideas on this is he is he intent on testing free agency or is there a choice here that he could actually make to stay with the Pacers if it happens. We're wherever he goes there's not a max extension the full term max extension that he's even going to be able to sign so anywhere he goes he can't just sign the extension immediately there was a deadline for that at the end of December where if he was traded before the end of December he was eligible to sign a full length max extension and that deadline came and went and now wherever he goes it's really just going to be about feel it's going to be about how he acclimates to whatever city he gets traded to so let's say this deal you know whether it's Indiana whether Sacramento wherever it's going to be about feel it's going to be about how the player is in that environment obviously the Pacers have to feel a certain type of way about Tyrese Halliburton about how they feel their situation will be how they can win with him in the lineup for them to be going these lengths to be motivated enough to offer three first round picks along with Bruce Brown Jr. and Bruce Brown Jr. is an interesting player because the Raptors they could keep him but they could also find a suitor for him at the deadline where that will net you either first or a bull load of second round picks so the Raptors could be looking at this deal if this is the route they go you get the three firsts from Indiana you get either another first for Bruce Brown or you get a bunch of seconds so the Raptors have avenues now could they be waiting to see does a does a team come between now on February 8th and beat this offer I'm sure that is all part of Toronto's mindset. OK, Halliburton and Siakam do you love that Lou sounds good sounds good you know individually I like I like both of these guys games individually I like to see how it plays out you know but like I said, Pat Pascal Siakam is one of those guys that Tyrese can throw that ball ahead to him in the transition and he can attack that rim or give him an option in a pick and roll pick and pop low post mid post he's going to have one of those guys with him that's going to be able to give them a lot of different looks offensively and so I'm excited to see what happens. I'm excited to see what happens to right now with technology and Chandler on a golf course somewhere in Orlando Chandler. Oh my god no absolutely not. Oh wow. Check this out. If there was ever a picture of Chandler that made sense this is it. All right I'm sure you can hear everything Shosteus what are you doing. First of all it's freezing in Orlando I wasn't supposed we're going to warm you up. I wasn't supposed to play today this is program before the tournament I got the hand warmers in my pockets. This is dedication guys I couldn't miss the show for a thing. Way to be a way to be a pro Chandler way to be a pro way to be a pro. You're such a pro. Way to be a for the record you're in the warm place of the four of us for the record. I'm not drinking much drinking a bloody Mary you are. Oh god fine let's get your opinion now before you are gone. Siakam to Indiana do you love it. I don't love it I like it I think Indiana is now is in a situation where they can they can compete they can they have a star player in Tyrese Halliburton to only give up Bruce Brown and future picks three first round picks is a little steep to me but you put Siakam on that team with buddy with Miles with Tyrese now you're looking at a team that can be a tough out in the playoffs and we all know how strong the Eastern Conference top teams are with Boston and Milwaukee and Billy looks really good but I like this for the future it's little unsettling if he's going to resign there what's his price going to be. I do like it I like it for this season I think that puts in kind of right there and that four or five seat after those top three teams and and and again they're going to be a tough outcome come playoff time with Tyrese with now Siakam and a Rick Carlisle offense I do like it this year it just depends on kind of what the future looks like and how many picks they actually have to give up. All right well your signal is is beautiful it's almost like the satellite is right in front of you. Good luck with your tournament today I see a lot of houses back there windows and pools to be broken hopefully we see you tomorrow sir stay warm and I'm straight we got games y'all. Thanks guys. Yeah of course thank you he's such a pro I would never. Nuggets sixers last night this this was a fun one to watch it was the the battle of the big dudes Yokich versus Embiid I would say it delivered and I would say Embiid came out on top on this one not only did they win but his numbers were incredible the one twenty six one twenty one victory Embiid Maxi and Tobias Harris combined for ninety of their points and Embiid himself had forty one seven and ten guys it's one of the best games to watch so far I was worried that somebody was going to sit beforehand but we got it who wins the series if this were to actually be our finals Lou you know this is going to be a funny answer but strictly based on last night I would say the sixers man Joe L&B was absolutely dominant Tobias Harris was great for them throwing in another twenty five points Maxi throwing in twenty six you know these guys were these guys were rolling they look they look what they look good it looked like they were up for the challenge but if you're asking me about a seven game series I'm going with the defending champions I like the way that they shared a basketball they can plug guys into that system they play well together that ball is moving you know this the thing that we're going to talk about is Joakic only having three assists right so if you're center who's your best passer as well only has three assists that's going to affect the the the ball game tremendously and I thought that's what we saw last night he wasn't allowed to be in the passing lanes and get the ball out to those guys like they wanted but give a lot of credit to the sixers man they played a hell of a game and Joe L&B was the head of that snake but if you're asking me for seven games give me Denver again I want to ask because you know when we've seen these guys match up and B had gotten some flack for quote unquote ducking a couple of the matchups but then you watch a game like last night you're like why would this dude ever duck anything Lou I mean he was incredible to watch last night are we making too much of that that's a silly narrative you know let's let's let's go way back and do a deep dive into you know his injury history you know this guy has been a part of low management just as much as any of the guys that we talk about when it comes to when it comes to low management you know he's had some situations where he's needed to take games off and listen if he's going to take games off and come in and give me two back to back 40s then take another night off big fella so that's a silly narrative that he's ducking anybody ducking any smoke if you to know Joe L&B is to know that he's extremely competitive person and he wants all the smoke trust me he ain't ducking anything like a net then Michelle 18th straight 30 point game or more for Joe L&B it's six longest streak in NBA history he has been absolutely dominant and every single game that goes by it's like it's so easy I think Kevin Duran tweeted the other day like it took him three quarters to score 40 points the other night it's just what he's doing right now is is is super impressive and he's only building upon what he did last year he won MVP last year and you have to give the sixers a lot of credit they're well balanced Tyrese Maxx last night 25 points Tobias here is 24 points and this team has a wide range of score scoring ability you have Marcus Morris playing at a good level Kelly Ubrey chipped in with 11 points and we know NBA is the dominant force but around him he's got guys playing at a high level two Tyrese Maxx he should be an all star this year and when I talk to people around that sixes organization last night getting a sense of like what is Joel and B's mindset you know during that game is he talking trash about your kick is he like what what is his frame of mind they say honestly he's quiet he's focused and his biggest things are pointers he has to make like if he wants a guy cutting to the basket if he wants more picking roles if he wants the team to make adjustments he's going to speak out that but other than that he's focused on the game and I think Joel and B is just maturing year after year after year Tyrese Maxx he told me when he came in as a rookie Joel and B wouldn't even speak and now Joel and B his leadership and what he brings to the table as a professional as a leader I think it means a lot to that organization. The idea that I that he wasn't even speaking is funny. There was a moment last night after the game right after the game with Jokic and B talking to each other covering their mouths the whole nine and then he was asked about it afterwards. He said and B did that he was telling Jokic you know you're the best player in the league defending champs yada yada and then of course they cut to Shaq and he's like I don't know about that so Lou I ask you who is the most dominant big man in the league. You got to you got to you got to put that down the middle 5050 their impacts are completely different. You know Joel and B is a score first guy. I feel like Jokic is the past first guy that can also score you know and so they give you two completely different dynamics. If I got the first pick at the park and both of those guys are there I can close my eyes and pick one. You know it's really that it's really that close to me how they impact the game the way that they impact their teams is completely different but it's dominant both are dominant at the same time so I can't I can't call it Joel and B is in a league of his own right now with the streak that he's on but we've also seen the same type of production from Yoko just well and so I honestly can't call it. I like both of these guys. Normally I would give you a hard time but I actually think this is the right answer and that's what it's too tough. They're tied. Maybe this is negative. I don't know but he does lead the league. Joel and B does as far as free throw attempts. I think he's averaging like 12 yet 15 last night and opposing coaches aren't always pleased with that Lou. Are they right. No tell God stop following. Tell God stop hacking because you know in my in my career I was a high free throw guy. I will pump pump fake gay guys in the air or if your hand your hand is out I'm swinging through and I'm creating a contact because by the time I come into the game nine times out of 10 our team is already in the bonus and Joel and B he's learned he's learned that part of the game. Get you two easy free throws. Take the pressure off your offense. Go back down the court and set up you know and he's like we said we talk about his dominance. This guy can he can face up at the three point line. You have to respect him shooting a three so he can get you with a head fake at the top of the key. Put the ball on the floor. A lot of fives now used to a five putting the ball on the floor. That's that's when you get in foul trouble when you start using your hands. When you post up he's a seven foot 200 some pound guy that can really run through your chest and go lay the ball up. You have to guard that. So that gives you a that gives you another opportunity. He can play with his back to the basket. That's another opportunity to create fouls. And so get a man created. He's doing a great job of putting a lot of pressure on defenses every single possession. So do coaches is it annoying for a coach. Absolutely. But again you got to have a better game playing for a guy that's going to give you four or five different looks to score the basketball. All right. I just had I just I have to add Michelle. You know speaking about Lou I follow Lou's career pretty heavily. There was only two players that got the calls that that he got him and James Harden. Lou how did you do it. I well I just I've never asked this question. You were drawing these crazy files. So was Jane. You and James the only guys on the perimeter drawing these files. Like I don't I didn't even understand it. Yeah. Because I think James and I we were going into a lot of situations during games where we were just strictly looking for free throws. Like I said if I'm coming off the bench and the first time I'm getting in a game and this with three or four minutes left in that first quarter. The best thing that I can do to get myself going is to get a couple free throws before we start. So soon as I grab the ball I'm looking at what you're doing whether your hand is out with your little jumpy or whatever. So I'm giving you a pump fake. If you go ahead and jump I'm going to lean in. If your hand is out I'm swinging through and I'm going to get to two easy free throws. But it was the gift in the curse. You know James and I we did it so well they changed the rules because of us. You know so that's how we were able to do it is just playing chess in the middle of the games. Giving yourself an opportunity to get two easy points before the game gets going. Well Lou let me follow that up. Did you like you guys that much. I was going to say that the rest loved you and did you like pissing everyone else off because that's what it sounds like to me. Yeah I remember one game in particular. I think it was on the spur of scouting report. And this is the one of the games that I started on the very first possession. I get a guy in the air. Pump fake three free throws. Pop pulls him immediately and he rails him and I told you to stay down on pump fakes. So these you know so trust me these things are points of emphasis when it comes to game planning for teams. And so should teams be mad at your L.M.B. for drawing fouls know they should be mad at their guys for going for it. But it's so tempting to you're moving. I have to go whatever. All right. It is. It's just it's like. Front court depth champs. Shams almost called you shams. What am I a stranger. With three weeks away from the trade deadline. Are we thinking there are so many teams that we're going to be looking at and I'm so excited for this deadline this year but. Is Philly going to be active. Are you expecting anything. I think they're going to be measured. I mean the one thing that they have going for them is they have these salaries like Marcus Morris and Robert Covington that are really in that range of it's not a major salary you're not going to be bringing back a max contract type of guy but you're going to be bringing in a you could be in the market to bring back a really good bench piece a really good score. I think they're going to be active. I don't get the sense that they're as engaged right now on Dejante Murray or Zach Levine or Pascal Siakam. I think those three guys. I have not gotten the sense that they are going to pursue those three. Aggressively I think there is a level of interest there for them but not an aggressive pursuit. And so this is a team also Michelle they have max salary space in the summer. So if you want to go and commit yourself to Zach Levine or Dejante Murray you remove yourself from the free agency conversation in the off season and they already have such a great thing going like could you roll the dice and see what this team could do. Maybe add one more piece on the edges and see what this team could do as currently constructed with this core of Tobias Harris Maxi and Joel Embiid and see just how far this group can go before you make a decision in the summer. There's going to be options for them in the summer. They have a bunch of assets. Remember they got two first round picks from the Clippers. This team is going to have great I think ability to go add talent if they want in the summer. It's this is going to be a phone and Lou let me ask you if you if one team had to strengthen their roster more would you think it was Denver or Philly and you got to pick one. And I'm not because I feel like both of these teams obviously any team that is trying to win a championship they would love to strengthen their bench and give them an opportunity at the top of those second quarters when your starters are out you know to either increase that lead or get a great plus minus situation going. But I like Reggie Jackson coming off the bench for Denver. You know I like Christian Brown to get an opportunity to be a bigger part of what they're doing in Denver as well. He's getting a he's getting some quality minutes and getting a quality experience and learning what it's like to be on a championship caliber team. And on the flip side of that you got a you got a Pat Bev and you got a Marcus Morris coming off the bench for the Philadelphia 76ers. I like that mix of guys that can hold it down for seven to eight minutes stretches while you know the starting groups are taking a break. And so with both of these teams like to get better on the bench I'm sure but at what cost and at what position you know the sixers you can throw that ball to Marcus Morris five or six times and he's going to give you a bucket who's going to be a better perimeter defender than Pat Bev. You know Reggie Jackson has proven that he can go out and give you 25 to 30 points a game. Christian Brown plays with a lot of energy. So it's a lot of guys out there in the market that can strengthen both of these teams. But I don't see anything glaring for either one of them. It's a nice position to be in. What about on the filly side the Maxi Harris and B 90 points combined last night. Do you envision this as a championship core. It is. But listen that's going to be tough to do consistently. You know we're talking about one guy that had 40 and two other guys 25 plus a piece. That's just going to be tough to keep up with especially in the play in playoffs. Somebody's going to get taken away. Somebody is going to get absolutely wiped out of this series. And the fans are going to go crazy. He's not playing well because they don't understand the tactics that comes with the playoffs you know in order for our team to beat you in a seven game series something has to be sacrificed and you've got to be be willing to give up something. And so to expect these guys to play at such a high clip is unrealistic. But if they can pull it off they're going to give themselves a real opportunity to be a championship contending team. Moving on to the West Coast a late game last night Thunder out in Los Angeles this time taking on the Clippers man this young squad they're going up against a bunch of vets and that's what happened in the final result one twenty eight one seventeen but Paul George. He had eighteen of his thirty eight points in the fourth quarter so if you turn this one off early yeah you missed something. If they need if they want to contend for a title and they obviously have one hell of a great roster but do you need this version of Paul George every night Lou. Absolutely he's he's the one guy out of the four that can absolutely just go clean out get a bucket you know he pinned down anything Paul George has a deep deep offensive bad you know when it comes to James Harden he uses his ability to draw fouls he has the step back he's a great three point shooter great rim attacker but when you talk about just a natural born peer score Paul George is the most natural guy on that team and he's going to have to be the leading score plain and simple even though I know the Clippers said that they need to play through they need to play through James Harden a lot of that play needs to be James Harden playing in two man two man game or looking for Paul George on pin downs when he's when he's looking to be a past first guard you know like he's been over the over the course of the last 10 or so games and so this is a great thing for the Clippers like I said they got a lot of weapons nothing PG is the most important one it's crazy back in 19 he was traded by the thunder the Clippers and that was of course for SGA and a handful of first round picks I'm going to ask you who won the trade but just remind everyone that Paul George has already answered that question when he said in a way OKC won that trade by getting the the future picks and a future MVP what do you think Lou yeah yeah both side I think both sides one I think short term the Los Angeles Clippers they are prepared to they they are equipped to win a championship before OKC but long term OKC they have a lot of young guys and a lot of young assets on that basketball team that's going to give them the same ability for years to come and so I think OKC the moves that Sam Presti made and going to get SGA I think he was thinking long term and I think the Clippers were looking short term and it's working out like that for both sides right now. I mean you could not describe the two organizations better short term long term and Oklahoma City has done that Shoms we already know Kawhi got his deal done now we wait for the next extension to fall will it be PG or Hardin. It's going to have to be Paul George out of either of those two for a couple reasons one there is optimism about about the Clippers and Paul George and he's wanted to play in LA and you saw what Kawhi Leonard signed three years 152.4 million dollars about eight and a half million dollars less than his maximum that he could have gotten for those three years also no player options so you know could Paul George do a deal basically the same deal that Kawhi Leonard deal that Kawhi Leonard did could he do a deal that's just shy of that number that Kawhi Leonard signed for but then maybe get a player option I think these are going to be continued negotiations I know the Clippers want to get a deal done I think Paul George you know by all accounts wants to stay in LA as well James Hardin on the other hand he is not eligible for an extension a new contract until after the NBA season after the NBA finals so you know look for those conversations to take place after the NBA finals are over but the Clippers didn't give up two first round picks for him just for him to walk in free agency they want to retain him long term James Hardin clearly chose to be in LA he's back home I think there is a mutual interest in getting a deal done but that's going to have to take place after the NBA season closer to July and the injury that happened or didn't happen last night but it affected Zubat's of course wasn't in the game the calf how long can we expect him to be out just a massive blow four weeks at least for a visa Zubat and he's going to be out for the foreseeable future and it's a massive blow for the front court for the Clippers he's played such a vital role this year for them Zuchi man as a as our guy Lou Lexa call him and Mason Plumley he started last night I think he's going to be the starter but that's why you go get Daniel Tice they got Daniel Tice he agreed to buy out the paces earlier this year and then they signed him and then you look at the rotation Zubat you have Tice you have Plumley that's a lot of centers but now with Zubat out and he has dealt with calf injuries in the past and so getting Tice I think is going to be good for them at least in the short term as insurance. I mean look obviously it's not ideal Lou but then you watch the game last night and Tice and they seem to fill in just fine should we be even concerned too much? Yeah this is honestly this is a major blow you know Zoo is one of those guys he's a glue guy you know his impact goes on noticed a lot of the times because he's such a quiet and reserved guy and he's playing with four mega stars in his business and he can kind of get overshadowed but he's giving this team so much balance and depth at that five position that gives them an opportunity to win so many games and so you know for me personally that's my young boy and I feel for him he you know he has these injuries from time to time and especially being a big guy in your calf that's going to be something major to deal with and so you know hopefully Zoo gets well gets well fast for this team and gets back on the floor but this is this is going to be something to watch. Half injury sounds annoying on the thunder side now we watch them lose both games out in Los Angeles Lakers and Clippers back to back I mean they're a young team so I don't know how much we want to pile on Lou but what can they learn I guess from the two back to back losses. It's still a pecking order it's still a pecking order you know it's the little brother big brother dynamic you know the OG's are holding it down and trust me the Lakers they're watching the Clippers are watching they know that OKC is on fire and they're playing good basketball and their team to be reckoned with so especially when they come into their building these are statement games for these veteran groups you know and of course the small the little stories in these games you know the Clippers with Paul George and the SGA tree you know the Lakers and hearing all of the talk about the young teams are coming and the Lakers are getting older you know these are little sub stories that's a part of this and so you know I think these were big statement games for both L.A. teams that you know we understand you guys are coming but not yet we still the top dogs around in the West so this was good this not good to see because I don't have a dog in any of these fights but you know it was clear cut that this these were very motivated basketball teams they want it they're sick of hearing about it you know it's you look okay see we've gotten used to sort of they're on the slow burn track but is there a world Lou where you could see them making some moves to speed up the process or just continue as they've been doing and let this this group grow keep cooking keep cooking you got a great recipe right now you know you're getting a lot of great productions from a lot of young players don't mess it up you know don't mess it up every team always wants to get better and if something if a Pascal see outcome becomes available in some fantasy world sure you give it a look and you and you see if that's something that you can you can add to your basketball team for years to come but right now how they're playing I wouldn't bother with it at all allow these guys continue to grow and build together and you know because chemistry is a big thing in this league once guys they build chemistry and they love and they learn to play with each other that's something that money can buy and that's something that you can't that you can't add to your team it's something that comes natural and is needed and so having that was such a young core I wouldn't bother with it at all. Taking a quick break when we come back he's a historic comeback also but really just puppies when run it back returns I'm the only one that cares. Well this game was something King's sons they overcome Phoenix does a 22 point deficit in the fourth fourth quarter if you were flipping around and you probably were because I thought this thing was over why bother but a comeback when like that for this Phoenix team Lou that has sort of been all over the place to ran had his 27, 5 and 4 not sure what to make of them yet is this something you can build on especially with a team of vets and let's get back into this thing. Yeah that seems to send a place you know these are these are much needed wins especially going going into the all-star break in another couple of weeks you know this they you're going to want to pick up some momentum going into that break and so this is one of those games that can kind of give you that lift and give some credit to the unsung hero Grayson Allen played out of his mind last night 9 for 14 from the 3 point line you know he's going to be somewhat of a Steve Kerr type player for this group you know when you have so much talent you need somebody to take the pressure off of the big 3 especially when when shots are not falling you know for a couple of those guys like they weren't last night you know they didn't play their best basketball but you know they got the personnel to if any team is going to come back from 22 down in the fourth quarter give me a team with Kevin Derran Brad Bill endeavor and and and Devin Booker and if Grayson Allen is going to shoot the ball like that if I'm his teammate I'm telling him we need you shooting the ball like that every single night to give us chances to win basketball game so this is a big win for them big motivation big swing on on on energy and so this is something they can build off of NBA is crazy these types of runs are insane to me especially when it all comes down to the fourth quarter but on the other side you have a King's team a young King's team that is looking to make some waves and then they lose a game in this manner how do you throw this one away and forget about it Lou just that you know obviously I'm sure it's going to be a long film session in the King's facility today just going over what went wrong things that they could have done better but you got to have a short memory you got to have a short memory memory loss and when it comes to things like this it's just get over it it's a bad night it was a bad quarter came down to a bad quarter I thought they were playing pretty good basketball up into that point so you throw it away you don't overreact and you just keep moving forward in the season it was a really bad quarter I thought the game was over shams what were some of your takeaways Grayson Allen I mean he's gone to Phoenix and he's been this the steal really of that trade that that this that the Suns had with the with the Blazers with the Bucks getting him from Milwaukee I mean nine three-pointers tying a franchise record Kevin Durant we saw what he did down the stretch hitting clutch shots making clutch passes even though Devon Booker 16 and 11 and Brad Beal didn't shoot the ball great but I think being able to have Grayson Allen play such a vital role of this team you have to give him a lot of credit this the Suns team they're starting to tackle tack together wins and every single time this big three is able to play together get chemistry that's what this this organization has been waiting for they want to see this team in full and we've seen it now for a stretch of about a couple weeks let me ask a question is is it me or is Grayson Allen slightly more like a bowl as a member of this team versus his last Lou you can say no okay good let's just move on that of I will say he's playing a different role right like he has a ball in his hands more he's playing more like I don't know Kyle Corvresk like where he's he's spotting up he's shooting he's coming off curls like he's not playing that enforcer role at times that defender kind of just that random spot up shooter you know role that he was playing in Milwaukee or Memphis before that like he has a legitimate role you remember the Kyle Corvresk in Atlanta like they were designing plays for him and that's similar to what Grayson Allen's doing now. Yeah I don't feel like yelling at my TV like I used to and I think that's growth for all of us right now the Sacramento Kings are in the five spot Phoenix in the what seven Kings are in the seven sons are in the eight who's finishing ahead Lou I still like Sacramento I think I think Phoenix is going to make up some ground here but I think Sacramento still stays on the pace that they're on I think they still finish higher that's a big that's a big thing to say I look all of this was me wasting time to get to one piece of video that I want I don't care if you guys don't like it but it's puppies and any time we get puppies at halftime the world wins roll that beautiful bean footage for the love of everything yes oh god he's so cute I mean shams have you ever had a dog I haven't had a dog but dogs are starting to war up grow on me they're wearing on me for sure so I I bulldog I've come along I've come a long way I used to be scared to no don't be scared of dogs shams I've just stick with me kid I will get you to love dogs more than people actually probably I'm assuming these guys were up for adoption because usually that's what they're doing and if so it's a good thing I don't live there because they would all be here right now Lou is this warming your heart like it is mine it's fun I caught the dog bug about five or six years ago I have to she by news myself and so I'm a dog lover now I'm part of the community once you're part of the community can't I I can't get over the bulldog by the way that you don't normally see one of those guys what's this guy doing monkey wait is he gonna do so yeah hey when you gotta go you gotta go and he's going oh wow okay oh we're doing well I mean he does he's first of all he's a puppy the court at first it really did that could have been a disaster he's excited he's nervous he's scared and he's a puppy and I loved it all right we're gonna take a quick break right now when we come back more scoops from Shoms this is running back run it back run it up run it back run it up run it back yeah peep peep peep peep peep peep Shoms scoops time all right Indianapolis All-Star Game weekend are we gonna see Wimby one way or the other Shoms I hope this news warmed your heart I'm told Michelle that Victor Womin Yama has committed to the skills challenge at All-Star weekend on Saturday night seven foot four big man this is gonna be a one of a kind skills challenge clearly with Wimby in it I'm told that he could be a part of a team a skills challenge team of all number one picks not sure who the other contestants are but Victor Womin Yama is planning to be one of them what do you feel about this Michelle are you are you gonna be more excited to watch Saturday night than you usually are yeah I mean look I watch it anyways even on the years when we sort of slam it and say it was boring I'm still watching I mean how else can you have the opinion it was boring but yes this excites me more and then I'm thinking skills don't we don't we want to see him in the dunk contest Lou I mean that that would be something I pass you know I don't I haven't seen him do any like really impressive dunk sort of speak you know I think it's gonna be too easy for him he's not half the dunks so like I don't I don't know we'll be entertained by that you know what I mean and so I would rather see I would much rather see him in a skills competition than a dunk contest it's gonna look so way you're right Sean like a seven four whatever in the skills is just it's gonna look odd it still looks odd to me when he's in games and he just pulls up and drills a three but that being said we're always trying to fix everything when are we getting our one-on-one skills tournament situation Lou and how great would that be as an addition to all-star weekend I think it'd be fun I think it'd be fun and innovative but it'll never happen you know one you gotta deal with guys look when you plan a team sport you can kind of hide one-on-one is different you get some trash talk going and you get these get these juices flowing you gonna get a completely different environment than you anticipated you know you gonna get a sneak peek into how extremely extremely competitive guys are so you gonna start dealing with some trash talks and pushing some shoving maybe some injuries here and there maybe some guys getting close line the NBA has to protect the product we would never see this happen ever got the way you described it made it even better than in my mind to dribble one-on-one right now you pick who's winning two dribbles right now mm-hmm give me Kevin Durant Kevin Durant ooh that's smooth just something yeah off the top of my head like a beautiful dance I'd watch that you say never I say never say never I'm gonna hold on to that hope Shams we also had some news on Jay Crowder and this seemed to be hopefully in a positive direction Jay Crowder clear to return tonight for Milwaukee he will be playing in the lineup against the Cavaliers in Cleveland he's missed the last two months he had core muscle surgery he's been ramping up getting ready to play this is a guy that was top four in the team on the team in minutes per game he was shooting 53% from from three-point range before his injury we think about the recipe that helped Milwaukee win a championship a couple years ago having an enforcer having a guy that can play multiple positions defend multiple positions in PJ Tucker that's really the role they set out for Jay Crowder coming off the bench starting guarding being versatile and having him back in the lineup tonight will allow this team to be a much more whole moving forward that's a huge huge return and we got more scoop Shams a lot of scoop today Adam Silver out on the West Coast yesterday talking a little all star of the future what was that news the Clippers will be getting the 2026 all star weekend at their new arena into it don't Steve Balmer's baby he's been he's been working on building this new arena for a while Lou Lou will might have more information on this arena than I do but this is something that Steve Balmer that Clippers organization has been has been working on for the last several years and it's going to open in August this year and they're going to play in this new arena next season and then host the 2026 all star weekend as a former Clipper a great Lou will what do you think about the Clippers all star weekend I think it's going to be great I think it's going to be great I remember sitting in those means and Steve Balmer showing us renderings of the of the arena and telling us about all of the different ideas that he had you know the 2000 2000 toilets he done he doesn't want anybody waiting in line for the bathrooms and so many so many concession stands and have him standing only seats to have that college environment you know this arena is built for basketball it's it is built for great environments and so I look forward to I look forward to the Clippers opening up next year all star weekend is going to be great but you know this is something that Steve Balmer has been talking about he's super proud of it. I was slightly a part of you know this thing when it was an idea that was coming into fruition and so I'm excited for the Clippers organization and having their own piece of land and having their own you know place to stay and that somewhere that they can call home instead of sharing it and it's the always feeling like the B team at LA you know finally they have you know their own situation. Clippers getting their own arena that I mean that is a game changer in the NBA and we're going to see it next season like like Lou said Lou was there at the beginning of it I mean when Steve Balmer about team and and all that so I mean I'm sure you got to have a little bit of pride in you Lou right now. I was also going to say Lou you should get it where we do live shows from the brand new arena seeing as you can host us and give us the tour and all that good stuff. Can you tell me about the wall because that was something that came out and there are weird rules or fun rules for this wall. Here it is. Section 51 uninterrupted rows of fans you cannot cheer for the opposing team. You cannot wear opponent gear and the tickets can only be resold in Clippers Marketplace which PS I do like that. A season on the wall will cost you anywhere from 5 to 25 K. You know what as much as we think Balmer is kind of a wackadoo in like all the good ways. He really gets it like he is a fan of those are rules that I would want to put in place Shoms if I had the money to own something like that. It's it's I get mad when I see opposing fans in other arenas do we love this. Lou you love it. I think I think it's an amazing idea Lou were you responsible for this I want to know. This was your idea. No I know this is this is my first time hearing about it but I will say Steve Balmer being an innovator he's trying to figure out so many different ways to give his team the the the the the opportunity to have an edge on other teams that's coming into to their arena and so listen he's drawing a line y'all want to sit in these seats no opposing teams this is our crowd this is our home and this is our standard and so I'm digging it I like it. You know what they didn't tell us is what happens to someone who tries to sneak in I don't think it tased or what but the jersey of the opposing team like you just get escorted out that's I'm pretty sure you're going to be escorted out or escorted into a a neutral area. This is awesome I can't wait for this to happen. We got a lot of gems from Steve Balmer we got one last night take a listen. Stay in your seat or get up you get up we're going to know that you stood up as long as you you want us to you've got to give us the permission. We'll know that you get up we know that you cheer we know how loudly you were cheer. You're if you're good on those things we can give you a little discounts around the shop just to reinforce that excellent behavior that we we want need of our fans to make this thing rocking and look our fans have a role to play with our team this isn't just for the fans to enjoy the experience it's serious. And listen he means it. He means it. I remember I remember sitting in meetings with him and he says listen I'm not much of a basketball guy. What what I can do I can be the L.A. Clippers number one biggest fan and I can set an example about how I cheer this team on and how I motivate this crowd and you've you've seen that throughout the years of him being excited court sided and the motivation that he's given these teams and so he wants that to be loud he wants that to be proud and it starts with him and so I listen I've never seen an owner so excited about something and be so serious about it and so I'm like I said I'm digging this. I wish I would have gotten discounts for all the times I cheered that's kind of a brilliant idea where does he rank on your list of owners Lou. Clearly one of my favorites. Steve is Steve was very fair to me very honest and and when we didn't agree on certain things he was honest looked me in my eyes and told me what he disagreed with and very very fair man and so he's one of my favorites for sure love Steve. I can't wait for this new building it's going to be a blast and they still cut me floor seats so hopefully I get the same treatment in the new arena so. And Chandler wants to go and Shams wants to go so make it happen. I'll go if you want me to. We'll take a break for a minute back when we return. Got a few minutes left here and show on a preview of game tonight Mavs Lakers right now the Mavs have beaten them twice already this season but both those games were determined by three points or less the spread tonight three and a half point favorites leaning Lakers Lou you buying that. Yeah Lakers always get the Lakers always get the spray when they're at home you know they're pretty good basketball team on their home floor and you know coming off a big win against those young guys they're going to try to get another big win against another group of really really talented superstar young guys and so I look forward to this matchup this would be one that I'll watch tonight. Hopefully we see the superstars be superstars and we get a really really good entertaining basketball game. Shams what are you looking out for. Any time you can see Kyrie Erring against LeBron James you have to sign up so I enjoy seeing those two guys play each other. Luca Donchage I think was this questionable we'll see if he plays but I mean any time you see Luca Kyrie LeBron ADO on the same court you have to you have to tune in. It's always funny the Clippers game followed by a Lakers game the next night the people watching would not be more different between those two things and I hope the new building makes it more interesting Lou I meant to ask you about that. I want it to be Lakers ask and it's ridiculousness. You have any say in that. No. Fine. That's going to do it. I don't know so I didn't hear you so we can go great. We'll be back tomorrow. Enjoy your Wednesday. They're running back. Yeah.