 I was very excited when I pulled that first card out, and it was a low card as well, and of course it was hard to see as a magician. You go, okay, you're always trying to get the suit, and then you go, well, it's hard, so we aren't supposed to be a heart. And then it's like a low card, too, and you've got it right. So I was very excited for you at that moment. I was not allowed to do it this time, because things are going to happen at the right time, at all of us. Also, as I said, I know that every one of you can sell your packets. The agreement, item number six, I do not believe that taking my challenge test in front of a large audience will influence my claimability in a negative way. Question, Braylin from the JReth. Was this the most visible or largest-scale live audience watching? And if so, were there any other ways in which this test was exceptional? I suspect that it probably was the most widely viewed, other than live audience for the auditorium, but on the internet at the same time, I'm told. How many did you have, 1,700 or something? Approximately 6,700 in the room with us, amazing, the client. You guys amazed me. Yes, I've had a recent client. And 1,700 people watching live on the internet to take, you know, if it comes and goes. And a lot of them are from Sweden. Actually, at one point I had to moderate the chat room because people were talking in Swedish. I'm sorry. So my answer is, I would just say, Jeff, I think this is probably the most widely live viewing test that we've had. Absolutely. This was the most visible, most widely promoted and most viewed test we have ever done. I just have one question in summation. What I hear you saying is that this experience is a stepping stone to something greater. And you're either ready for it or you're not. And there is some reason why you're here that may not have anything to do with playing cards. It is true. I just wanted to get that. I can ask a question. Knowing the test protocol beforehand, did you practice at all? I don't have time. We get this much over time. We always ask them specifically, please try a double blind test under the conditions that we've underlined, and please do test yourself independently. And every case, in every case without fail, it will say, no, I don't need to do that because I know what's going to work. So I'm just putting that out. I'm going to put it in the packet. Manny has worked with people before where she's guessed cards that were face down. Numbers, I think. A question for the Jira. Was there any concern with something this large scale about exploiting and test this large scale? Was there any concern in exploiting mentally ill or any concerns along those lines at all? Well, Michael, we try very hard, and we certainly get, in this case, a card to sort out any such cases because there are people out there who are emotionally unstable in many ways and who make the most incredible claims, much more incredible than the claim that Kami had made. And we effectively have to get rid of them because we don't want to exploit people who are touched in the head if we can use the common expression. Yes, we go through a lot of pain to make sure that that doesn't happen. We have to be fair to folks. And I think that Kami will agree that we have been perfectly fair and above board with her. The evidence is still in the envelope. It can be examined by anybody. I think that I have to give a personal thanks to my good friend, Vanachej here, who did an absolutely superb job of doing this correctly, succinctly, and the way the book calls for it. It was a definitive test. DJ, did you still have a question? Yeah, I guess the question I was going to ask is a little similar to the last question. For the JGREF, for the members of the Foundation on the Proclaim Panel, what sort of quality control, if there is various levels of quality among claimants, do you go through and how do you select among the claimants that you test? I think all of us can agree that Kami is sincere and she's not trying to pull one over on anybody. Vanachej here and his earnest, how do you know that she's the best we have to test if we're going to be doing such a public test? For one thing, two of the new additions to the protocol are that you have to have a medium presence. That is, if somebody has paid some attention to you before that you're not just somebody living in an attic who decides to send us a letter, walk them under a bell or something, the second thing is that we have to have an academic reference, which Kami provided to us, saying that she had done the test which was relatively successful and certainly promised that it seemed to produce indications that it would be successful in a formal test. So that is part of the filtration, but it makes you that it is difficult to do and we don't want to offend anybody, we don't want to leave anybody else who has a legitimate claim they really believe they can fulfill. So it is a difficult procedure, I agree with you there. I just want to make sure that the perception isn't that we're choosing anyone, everyone who goes through the application process gets tested. So we don't have, oh let's test this one, every single person who goes through the application process gets tested. In fact they have a testable claim. Well they won't get through the process if they don't. But Kami was the only one that you had available to you for such a public display this weekend? We have several people, several clients that are going through the process right now. She happened to be the next one. We can't let people go out of order and be tested out of order because if one of them actually does pass the preliminary, then that's not fair to all the people who have been waiting. So she was the next day one. Question to Phil Plait, Phil is the year now since you've been the president? Almost, yes. You must be, I would try to be quite satisfied with the way things are going. What is your opinion of the continuation, or the possible continuation of the million dollar challenge? Well I'm thrilled. That's not just possible, it is continued. Yes. In what state it will continue we're still working on it. That's what I mean. The million dollar challenge I think is a fascinating tool to test claimants and to see how this works, to give the public a chance to see how this works. This is a beautiful example of that because now we have an audience and we have an online audience. And it's not a, well it is in fact a scientific process, there is a claim that is made. We work out a testing protocol for it, there are statistics involved. She had to pick three cards, there's a one in ten chance each time, they're independent each time. So in fact to get all three right there is a one in one thousand chance. Now if we were to run this test a thousand times there would be a much higher chance of somebody winning. But in each individual test it's one in a thousand. So if someone, and that is my pure chance only, so if someone has an ability then we should see a different amount of people being able to pass this test. So I like this idea as a scientist because it is scientifically testing an unusual claim. And I like the idea that we're going to continue it because I think it's an excellent tool for this. It shows the public how this all works, it shows the public how skeptics analyze evidence and however we change the challenge in the future, I think that's still going to be at the core of it. It's just going to be more administrative change when we do it to make it more streamlined and more efficient so that people can apply more easily and they can be tested more easily. Would you be happy in a year's time to offer Connie another chance? That's a protocol question, we'll go to Jennifer Allison how that works. Yes, she can be tested if she reapplies if it's qualifications that are in place at that time. Yes, Naomi Baker of Houston Sceptics, a question from the chap is very related to what Richard just asked because do you feel that there's some future time that you would reapply for a similar or slightly changed test when you feel that it was time for your powers to be revealed as you said earlier? Does that make sense? Do you think there's some future times? You mentioned that this was not the correct time to be shown. Yes, too. Are you able to tell when that might be the right time? No, because I can't say the time or reason for things. Thank you. Should you feel that that time is upon you, would you reapply for the challenge and try again? I don't think so. I don't know. I just wondered has anyone ever gotten past the protocol? Passed the preliminary testing? No one has ever passed the preliminary test in the history of the challenge.