 Two more minutes on Facebook live. We'll get there. Don't worry. Hi everybody and welcome to your own Brooks show I'm excited to be with you again this week, and I see a lot of people are joining us. That's a good sign Particularly after the crazy week. I've at least had after the last show We'll get to that in a minute. Let me let me also say hello to everybody on Facebook live so oh the cameras over there I keep looking at my iPad where the The image is being projected and I Anyway We're on Facebook live, and so let me start by apologizing to those on Facebook live regarding a few things one I haven't really designed this space to be on video. So what you're really seeing is a Bedroom that used to be my sons that I kind of converted into a temporary studio. It's not very aesthetic looking Not like the rest of my house my house the rest of the house is very aesthetic looking with sculptures and paintings and Artwork everywhere plastered on the walls and on everywhere. So I apologize for the background You know over time in the months to come if I have time I'll try to make your background more appealing and more More interesting. We will see what I can do. I'm gonna build out the studio and create create something here that's More workable. Let me also apologize. You know, I'm really focused about talking a lot focused on how I look I'm not dressing up for this stuff and Finally I get hungry in the middle of these radio shows and the people on radio don't know this But I usually take a commercial break in order to eat something and People on Facebook live are gonna look at it unless I kind of cover up the camera like this while I eat. So I Apologize for that as well. Well, I don't really apologize for it. Just, you know, suck it up and then One more thing. What was the other? Oh, yes Finally, I still have not figured out and I don't know if I will figure out anytime soon How to get onto Facebook live? The audio of any phone calls that come in and the audio of the commercials and the music as it happens So for now, you're just gonna have to wait patiently I'll try to repeat the questions so that on Facebook live, you know what I'm responding to But yeah, it's it's just not the same experience on Facebook live You don't get you don't get it all that the other problem with the technology as I have it right now Is that there's a bit of a lag between the video and the audio So if you're listening to Facebook live and watching the video There's gonna be a lag between the two and I think if I connect the video if I connect the audio into the computer and Ultimately get you the audio from blocked off radio rather from the microphone on the camera. I Think there's gonna be a whole syncing problem. So Until Facebook live and my technology get finally completely synced up We're gonna have these problems a good discussion to have on a day where we're gonna be talking about Silicon Valley, right? Now we'll talk about Silicon Valley But there are a few things that I need to talk about First before I get to that and right now. I've got a little problem with the chat here I have to relaunch it unfortunately But a Few issues I just want to clean up some misunderstanding misconceptions just some stuff I See most of you know that the last week has been pretty intense in terms of the The responses both to the radio show to on called goddess piece on That we published that they are in institute on the Trump election Responses to my shows on the alt-right There's been a lot of backlash a lot of people out there a lot of people who identify with the objective is Visible who are ain't ran fans who fundamentally disagree with me and with on car and with the with the Institute on this issue and It's creating a huge disagreement within the objectives world which is Interesting interesting. We'll have to talk about this more in the future, but all kinds of stuff is out there So so I want to so I want to clarify a few things quickly And then I want to talk about a Trump's appointments from this week and then we'll get to Silicon Valley So just be patient or we will get to the discussion of Silicon Valley But I think this stuff is interesting and relevant to a lot of our discussion And I'm going to try not to move my chair too much because I have a feeling it's distracting on the video and let me let me There we go. All right The first is you know a few weeks ago. I did a show on the alt-right I I strongly recommend everybody listen to that show. I think it's an important show I think understanding the alt-right and being vigilant against it is really really really important Because I think that the alt-right even though I don't like the name And I don't like the ambiguity around what the alt-right is The alt-right is a very very dangerous sneaky Phenomena that that is really endangering this country and I think we need to be particularly vigilant because This is why because many people are going to try to lump objectivism into the alt-right Many people are going to look at objectivism as part of the alt-right And it's a problem with the name alternative right In some regards objectivism is an alternative right although I would like to say objectivism is just alt Objectivism is just an alternative. It's not It's not right. It's not left It's the ultimate alternative to the statism of both right and left Particularly both left and alt-right or alt-left and alt-right and all the everything in between Objectivism is completely different So let me tell you what I think alt-right is what I consider the alt-right and And of course, there are a lot of people at the periphery of this that accept some of these ideas reject out of these ideas But the importance is that you should never be associated with Never be associated with Anybody who self identifies as alt-right or anybody yourselves identified as any of the characteristics Of alt-right and here the characteristic the characteristics of nationalism And what do I mean by nationalism nationalism means the placing of the well-being of the state Above the well-being of the individual the state above the individual that is essentially what nationalism is It's a form of collectivism. This is not nationalism with a small and Which kind of refers to love of your country because it's a good country kind of somewhat similar to patriotism No, this is nationalism with a big end placing the nation above the individual anti-immigration Is is part of the alt-right's agenda Racist elements all kind of racist elements some of them hidden some of them explicit But alt-right ultimately is a collectivistic and often racist Ideas I won't even call it Ideology because that's a that's a little strong economic nationalism in a sense of trade protection Thinking about the economy not from the perspective of individual rights Thinking about the economy not from the perspective of whether it's good for any particular individual But thinking about the economy from the perspective of society the state the nation Say economic nationalism, which is by the way one of the ways bannon self describes himself He self describes himself as an economic nationalist I'm not making this up. This is this is directly in his in interviews with him Um, one of the examples of this which we've discussed on the show before Focus kind of on iq of collective groups Uh, and this is again anything that's supportive of collectivism Anti-semitism is often associated with the alt-right So I would say objective is it should never ever be associated with capital and nationalism never associated With a a broad anti-immigration perspective never should be associated with racism never associated with economic nationalism never associated With anti-semitism never associated with any form of collectivism based on pseudoscience or just an emotionalism pseudoscience is emotionalism all of that all of that um Not anything to do with uh with objectivism now if you want If you want references, you know, I don't have I'm not doing a show on alt-rights I don't have all the references and the alt-right was not a creation of the Progressive left of the social justice wars. It was a response to the progressive lesson in in social justice wars, but the alt-right is a creation of nationalist racists the term Alternative right as far as I can tell was coined by people like Robert Spencer. Robert Spencer is a racist Just go to his websites. He constantly talks in racist terminology. He's a he's an ultimate ultimate nationalist racist white white separatist Taki magazine, which is a big takis magazine, which is a big alternative right magazine 2009 Was talking about the alternative right and alternative right and they are all Racists all of them Racist now that doesn't mean everybody who belongs to alt-right is a racist Some of them kind of skirt around the racist issue and try to avoid The label but they're all in one form or another collectivists Uh and nationalists and therefore should be condemned um Milo, who I think is very sympathetic to the alt-right has a good description of the alt-right alt-right in a in a I think bitebot magazine bitebot online bitebot.com a story I think he's way too sympathetic to these elements within the alt-right But but I think he he describes some of it fairly accurately. So You know, it's there. Now again Milo Describes it from a sympathetic perspective. So Uh, let's be clear. The alt-right is a movement as a collection of individuals It doesn't mean every individual within it, but anybody who sympathizes significantly with the alt-right nationalism racism anti-semitism and fundamentally collectivism fundamentally collectivism um You know, it comes it has origins in all kind of intellectual sources among others papu canon and the paleo conservatives Who had these elements way way back, but it's really coalesced Around a a group of people who self identify. I didn't make up the term The left didn't make up the term these people made up the term and people self identify as part of this movement They self identify as it. This is not a creation of the left This is not a creation of the left. This is a creation of Uh alt-right now, should you call them on right? Fine. Don't call them out right call them white supremacists call them Nationalists call them racist call them neo-nazis call them what you want to call them They self identify as alt-right. So when you read about them when you see them all over the place That's what it's called I have come to the conclusion because of the perversion Of terms like right and left the complete distortion the fact that there's very little difference today Between the radical right and the radical left That we should not describe ourselves as right. We should get away From the idea that right somehow is good that left somehow is bad and and so on All right, uh, again my alt-right show from a few weeks ago Go listen to that full of concrete full of examples full of quotes from people like Robert Spencer to illustrate all this I just want to make clear that the that the this is a real phenomena. This is not Something that people have made up. Uh, you can you can read about it. You can search about it It terms like, you know, they they use terms like race realists. That's racism Human biodiversity. That's just another term for racism They realize that racism is an unpopular term say come up with all this other collectivistic garbage And and evil ideas in order to disguise what they're really about. So, uh, You know, I I want to be really clear about my position I think you all know my position, but I want to be really really clear about my position of these people and And what they represent and uh, again go look up Robert Spencer's articles. He's very clear on his racism It's it's not it's not hidden and I'm not going to get into the IQ debate I will I will I do intend to invite on the show sometime in the future a psychologist and a statistician To talk about the validity of these stupid, uh, IQ, uh, studies and IQ IQ descriptions because again, this is pseudoscience just like the Nazis did in the name of uh racism And and this is just a Again a pseudoscientific excuse and veneer To to disguise the true nature of what of what you guys some of you guys on the chat actually advocating for so This this is what it is. So I wanted to cover that quickly. Um, what else did I want to cover? I want to cover one other thing Um, yeah one other thing that came out this week. So there's a lot of people out there talking about the fact that hey You know, this is the problem with uh, I'm going in student intellectuals. They're detached Uron lives in a gated community Uh, he he doesn't actually engage with anybody in the world or he only speaks to students. So All he sees a Left of students He doesn't feel the pain of the average american because he has no clue what an average american is like Because he never interacts with them, right? I'm I'm I'm an elitist I'm an elitist. So first I am an elitist and proud of it. Uh, you know, I'm I'm a I'm an intellectual and uh, I I'm fairly I'm probably in the 1% would be my guess. I'm in the 1% I'm in the 1% because I've worked hard I'm in the 1% because I get paid well by the institute But more importantly, I'm in the 1% really I'm in the 1% because I I I found at a hedge fund a long time ago and uh, I get some good income from that I'm not in the 0.1% what I'd like to be but I'm in the 1% I'm I'm proud of the fact that I've made a lot of money Again, not a lot of money, but I've made some money That I live in a nice house. I live in a nice neighborhood. I live in a gated community I live in one of the safest places on the planet. Uh, but yeah, I've achieved stuff Good for me. I'm actually pretty proud of all of that The fact that I that I am an intellectual the fact that I write books the fact that I engage in ideas The fact that I've studied the fact that I've invested a lot in my own ability to do all these things I'm pretty proud of that. I'm not gonna apologize for all of that. I'm part of an intellectual elite I'm part of an intellect of a financial elite if you will but You know, isn't that what you're supposed to be in America? Aren't you supposed to be successful? Aren't you just a strife of the better now? It happens that I disagree with 99% of the rest of the elite in which I belong I disagree with most people who have money and I disagree with most people who are intellectuals. So what? Right? So what? um but So all of that is true, but detached Only speak to students and you guys nuts I I spend over half my time on the road I'm the one who gets yelled off the stage by both leftists and Trump supporters I used to speak I used to I did more Tea party talks then Almost any other intellectual I know out there. I hung up with the tea party I was considered the tea party celebrity for a while among the some people in the tea party. The only real The only big issue I used to have with the tea party in those days was was over religion Those that tea party is much evolved into Trump supporters The idea that I don't know who Trump supporters are what they are what they're going through is is complete and utter Nonsense. I mean, it's it's the this is exactly at harm in them. You don't like what I'm saying You don't like my point of view. So you attack me personally as I don't know detached It's just it's just stupid, but if you know anything about what I actually do and I'm just checking to see if facebook is all fine Who actually engage in you have you have you know complete You guys are just ignorant that's it. Yeah, I mean those of you are claiming this and and actually you're the one You know you're detached from what's really going on in the world Uh, let me just say because there's a there's a discussion going on in the chat over over the alt-right Just stop it. You know, just stop it. Go watch the original go watch go listen to the original show on the alt-right and actually read a whole article as I did by uh, Robert Spencer and listen to him on npr and and and then Anybody who's rational anybody who is uh, who is not Already a racist will identify Robert Spencer as an out and out racist Right and and uh, and you know, not quotes out of context read whole articles. It's disgusting It's it's horrific You know, this is the kind of stuff That I want to make sure and this is why I'm making a big deal out of it and why I'm making a big deal out of Trump. So let me get to that as well The reason I'm making a big deal out of the alt-right and the big deal out of Trump is I want to make clear Sorry, it was uh, I think drunk or anyway, I want to make clear I want unequivocally that Objectivism has nothing to do With the points of view of the alt-right And that objectivism has nothing to do With the opinions articulated by Donald Trump That there's nothing about Trump that is remotely like iron man's heroes that is remotely You know consistent with objectivism. He might be a fan of the fountain head. He might be a businessman But I don't want people out there particularly young people and we'll get to silicon valley in a minute I don't want young people to be confused By objectivism and the alt-right by objectivism and donald trump. It there's nothing similar between the two And this is why I'm making a big deal out of this. This is why I spend more time right now criticizing these Rightest ideas of donald trump and if you want to call the right these collectivistic these These statist ideas of donald trump and the alt-right This is why I spent so much time on them and less on the left because nobody confuses objectivism with the left But people clearly confuse it with objectivism these ideas with objectivism and my job a big part of my job Is to clearly defend what objectivism is to be vigilant about defending iron man's philosophy against those who would confuse it with something that it's not And and this is why it's important to differentiate between objectivism and libertarianism And it's important to differentiate between objectivism and alt-right between objectivism and trump and I also want to make sure that objectivists or those who sympathize with objectivism the people People who are fans of iron rands stay vigilant Stay vigilant stay vigilant against the alt-right Monitoring them making sure again these these confusions don't exist, but also stay vigilant about Donald trump So don't just because he's not a leftist doesn't mean we should not Really watch what he does critical of what he does We are radicals We are radicals Uh, we are not conservatives. We are not even libertarians. We are certainly not on the right or on the left We're not trumpist statists any kind of statists. We're not nationalist. We're not economic nationalist We are individualists With something the world doesn't recognize and and and the alt-right certainly has no clue about doesn't even Doesn't even know what to do with an idea like individualism So I you know We're not any of these things and it's so important So important as people get really excited about donald trump and these debates get heated up that at the end of the day We identify what is objectivism and what's your personal point of view? Objectivism has nothing to do with trumpism It has nothing to do with alt-right and has nothing to do with the right as it exists today Right capitalism it's important. We understand what capitalism is so um and and There's a debate going on with within the objectivist movement the broad movement about donald trump And that people who kind of like donald trump. I think they're wrong and I think I think it reflects very badly on The movement that the movement to the extent that the movement becomes supportive of donald trump. Again, you could have voted for him Because the alternative was hillary clinton. I'm not condemning people who voted for donald trump But to support donald trump is not the same as to have voted for him Uh, I think it's a huge mistake to be a donald trump supporter. Uh, I think it's inconsistent Remember, ian ran would not support ronald reagan ian ran would not vote for ronald reagan Now ian ran's uh about as um ian ran is objectivism ian ran was objectivism, right? And and ronald reagan Is a million. I mean, I probably would have voted for ronald reagan. I probably would vote for ronald reagan today so I'm much more sympathetic to ronald reagan than i am much more to uh To donald trump and remember ian ran didn't vote for reagan. There's no way in hell. She would have voted for for donald trump all right, um So one of the reasons i'm so critical of trump is we need to be vigilant I don't want anybody to confuse trump with a capitalist I want anybody to confuse trump with an ian ran hero I don't want anybody to confuse trump with an objectivist I don't want I don't want objectivism associated with the policies of this administration and it's up to us all of us all of us It's up to us To make clear what objectivism is how radical it truly is what it represent What its true views are on many of these issues because the media won't do it for us The people in in political power won't do it for us The the rest of the elites don't do it for us if we don't do it nobody will do it So, uh, I encourage you in terms of what one can do Is make sure to differentiate make sure to be clear in what ways we are different than the status quo Status quo of the left status quo of the right status quo of all the different alternatives to left and right All the different stuff that is going on out there. So just just uh, we need We need, uh, we need vigilance. That's all we need. I know let me just play around here a second with facebook live because for some reason I don't think it's doing what it's supposed to do Um, all right All right, hopefully hopefully to work in a second. Uh, let's go there All right, so, um Let's see one more second. Yeah, forget it. All right. I'm stopping to play Okay, let's uh Wow, we've got a bunch of phone calls. So again, I apologize to those of you on the on facebook live You're not gonna hear the phones Um, because of that, I'd appreciate if on the phone you'd make it short Um, so that uh, we don't have too much dead time on facebook live And I'm gonna try to get to these questions because I've got two big topics. I still need to cover Uh, and uh, haven't covered yet. Hi, you're new on book show. Who's this? Hey, Dustin, I'm doing well. How about you? That's right. That's right. Okay, so, uh The so it doesn't ask you why I'm not a supporter of of donald trump supporters I'm not going to repeat my show from last week So I encourage you to listen to my show from last week. You can get it on any podcast app Uh, just look your on book show and and and listen to it because I spent an hour and a half explaining in great detail Why I'm not a donald trump supporter and why I I think it's a mistake to support him I also would encourage you to go and Uh, and uh, read uncle gates essay on donald trump So, uh, which which is available on the iron man on the android reds website So sorry, Dustin. I don't want to repeat everything I said last week Most of the people listened listened last week All right I get that but I'm not going to repeat everything I said last week So so please go back listen to last week's show and they call in next week with questions If you disagree with anything I said, thanks for calling. Dustin All right, we've got another caller on four one six area code. Hi you on the Iran book show Hi, elizabeth from Ottawa. How's it going? I'm good. I'm good What's up? Yeah, no, I to some extent so so, uh Uh, this is a question about all the people on the chat in uh, that uh, that are outright I mean the real outright people I would I would love to find a way to kind of exclude them from the chat If I could figure out the technology I might actually do that because I I think you're right. I find it particularly disgusting, but what I Unfortunately, what I'm finding is that there are a lot of people and I think basically good people Who are being seduced by this and the reason I'm responding and the reason I'm talking about Is to try to prevent young people I think relatively innocent people from doing being seduced By this uh, this horrible stuff that the alt-right is preaching Um, so at some point I will get rid of them from the chat. I'll figure out how to do that Um, I said, you know participating in the chat is not that crucial So hopefully and I and I'm not not gonna not gonna spend a lot of these radio shows on the alt-right Because I find it disgusting and despicable and I've done my thing And anybody who wants to listen just like if you want to listen to what I think about Donald Trump Listen to last week's show if you really want to listen hear what I have to say about the alt-right listen to the show from earlier Um from about a month ago. I'm not gonna keep repeating it, but uh, I had I had to clarify a few things before I went on So I you know, I understand why you're so offended I don't that makes you feel any better No, I don't believe in toleration. I'm completely intolerant To this point of view. This is a barbaric evil offensive horrible uh illegitimate uh set of ideas Sure, you have a right to free speech go and spout it. Anyway, this is my platform If you're gonna spout those ideas on my platform I have every right to exclude you exclude you and I will at some point And those of you on the chat right now if you want to voluntarily disappear that are making me happy, okay? Sure, thanks. Thanks for calling. Thanks for listening All right, uh, we're gonna take um, we're gonna take two more quick calls and then I am I'm actually okay. We'll see what I'm gonna do then. Uh, but hi you on the Iran book show. Who's this? This is 302 a record. Who's this? Hey, Skylar from Delaware. How's it going? Good. Good. Good Good. So yeah, go ahead. Okay. So I have promised to devote a portion of the show to the article You can love Einran and God and Einran and I will I promise it just won't be today Um, uncle Gatte has a letter in response in the Wall Street Journal Now it's very short because it's a letter I will respond to that article. I think that's I'll just say very quickly I think the article is ridiculous. I think it's it shows a complete contempt for philosophy Certainly a complete contempt for the objective is philosophy and I will respond to it because In a future show because suddenly you can love Einran and God But you can't you have to understand what that means and you have to understand That what you're rejecting is Einran's philosophy even though you love the books But that requires a whole show Skylar and I need to get on with what I have planned for today Thanks for calling. All right. Let's show my pleasure. Uh, all right Whoops, why won't there it goes? Um last call for now you can call again later, but last call for now. Hi the 808 area code You're new on book show. Who's this? Hey, Stuart Don't bring me back to the alt-right, please But let me get a silicon valley and then maybe I take your call after that. How about that? Okay, go for it quickly though. I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about it. I promise. I'll talk about it. It's in my list Okay, all right. Thanks Stuart I'll be all right. So let's um, so so this is the deal. This is the deal. I'm gonna make I'm not gonna talk about uh trumps appointments right now um, I'm gonna make The a and 560 show all about trumps appointments. So on that show I'm gonna talk about uh, uh Reese previs. I'm gonna talk about bannon. I'm gonna talk about sessions. I'm gonna talk about flin. I'm gonna talk about pompeo Uh on the 560 show I'm gonna actually try to broadcast the 560 show on facebook live. So you can watch it there. You can also Uh, listen to it when it's becomes you can listen to it. Um There's a way to listen to it if you if you go to the m5 60 website Uh, and you can also listen to the m5 60 show It'll be a podcast that'll be uploaded on monday or tuesday So you can listen to my analysis and I will talk more about bannon's comment about asian ceo's There although I'll probably get to it in my discussion about silicon valley as well um But uh, but I'm gonna do I'm gonna do the uh, yeah, I'm gonna do the trumps appointments Uh on the m5 60 show again, you can listen to it live Online you can also listen to it afterwards when I when it's uploaded as a podcast in in a few days and uh I will try I know I will although there there are long commercial breaks, but I will Uh, do a facebook live of the m5 60 show just to see how it works With the uh with the live commercials and and whether that's something that's doable. So we'll try We'll try. All right Let's see. Here we go. I want to talk about I really want to talk about silicon valley because for two reasons two reasons I want to talk about silicon one is I'm really really depressed and and I need an upper right. I mean all this discussion about uh about Trump the alt right uh trade uh immigration All of this stuff is just I find it just depressing now some of the silicon valley stuff I'm going to talk about it's also going to be depressing, but I want to talk about something uplifting and I consider And this is a controversial and this is the other thing. I've seen this on toronto on facebook I've been criticized for loving silicon valley too much How can you love silicon valley when silicon valley is so leftist? So I want to I want to talk about something positive I consider silicon valley unbelievably positive. I consider silicon valley may be the most positive thing going on in the culture in which we live um And I I want to do I want to do at least a portion of the show if not most of the show on something inspiring and something uplifting so um I want to focus on silicon valley And I'm going to try to really ignore the chat because it's going all over the place. It's going it's it's discussing what I discussed 10 minutes ago and and and I really want to move forward. I really move on Huh, um And as part of the silicon valley discussion we're going to talk about about things like immigration and trade because I think you have to but I want to talk about what silicon valley represents Why do I consider silicon valley? The real america when I think so many people want to think of the real america as um the rust belt the tea party to me Silicon valley is what america really represents and indeed I think the rust belt used to be silicon valley Indeed if you if you read a little bit of history if you read particularly if you read um the history of kind of capitalism in america You will find that a place like michigan michigan used to be the silicon valley of america But today silicon valley is silicon valley now There are outposts of silicon valley all over the country in place like austin in place like boston in place like colorado in boulder and in denver um And all over because silicon valley. What does silicon valley represent? Silicon valley represents business It represents business Which iron rand has characterized as the essential characteristic of america america is the land of business A wealth creation of entrepreneurship Of going out there and having a vision and translating science Into technology science into values that lift the standard of living that everybody who trades with you So business is essential fundamental characteristic of america And when you look at business that has not been corrupted by cronyism business that has not that has been left relatively free to innovate and produce and create and move forward Then silicon valley is where business today Is thriving silicon valley is where the entrepreneur Is still venerated and is thriving silicon valley As what it represents the whole technology world that again includes seattle I forgot seattle, but obviously seattle where amazon and microsoft and Salesforce and many other companies are based but that attitude that attitude of Can we can do it we can create we can build we can innovate we can produce That attitude that builds and creates and sustains businesses That is what that is what silicon valley Really is that is what is the essential characteristic of silicon valley and that's And and that's why I think it represents It represents america it represents that can do You know create a mentality Driven mentality I can produce I can create I can invent I can make there are no boundaries Now, let me just say that I recommend a short talk by jason crawford that you can find on On itunes Not on itunes on youtube always get those two mixed up The spirit of atlas shrugged is alive in silicon valley, and I agree with pretty much everything jason says in that videos I I encourage people To uh to go find the video and watch it So, you know some of the stuff I say I mean a sense taking from jason although, you know, we very much agree on this But he's got some nice ways in which he's phrasing this so So I I like I like what he does with it, but Silicon valley as an industry as a mindset as an attitude as a focus Reflects what america really is and more than that more than that Much more than trump and much more than the the crony businessmen that are out there and much more than any politician In spite of disagreeing with her politics Silicon represents the silicon valley represents iron rand's world view Represents what is essential About iron rands world view So let's let's take let's take iron rands ethics The ethics of self-interest The ethics of rational egoism And what does iron rand identify? is the core fundamental Cardinal moral values of the objective is philosophy What is what are the core? fundamental values of iron rands moral philosophy reason purpose self-esteem Now I can't think I can't think Of another industry right now in america today of another geographic location That's represents reason purpose and self-esteem More than silicon valley, right? I mean silicon valley is about Science It's about It's about science It's about technology. It's about the application of science. It about it's about using the human mind. It's about innovation Every other every under industry Has been constrained limited forces being used against it by government as an it's a consequence innovation has been crushed And you don't see the expression of reason and rationality as a consequence. So if you Growing up as a thinker and if you want to be able to think new ideas and implement those ideas and apply your reason to your career Silicon valley is the best place to go do it. It's hard to do anywhere else because of government intervention But the fact is that today I mean Reason as a faculty that identifies and integrates the material provided by man's senses, right? That's what these guys do They identify The facts of reality out there they integrate and they find solutions They find they discover new technologies. They apply themselves To making the world a better place so They are the epitome of what it means To use reason To make the world a better place at least from a material perspective, right to change the world from material perspective Who's changed the world more Than the entrepreneurs and the companies and the businesses of silicon valley And and it's you know, the places that represent silicon valley Nobody else. No other industry No politician represents reason in the same sense as the entrepreneurs as apply to their businesses Apply reason to the management of their businesses to the discovery of new products to the launching of new products to the hallway in which they do business purpose People have a purpose They are single-mindedly pursuing pursuing their goals They live their careers Everything you read in iron rand about career about purpose about productiveness Is epitomized by the the entrepreneurs and the founders and the engineers and the ceo's Of silicon valley. You might disagree with all their politics you know Some of them have even called for secession from the united states because of trump's election But if you look at their business life If you look at what they actually do if you look at how they actually behave how they live their life Wow I mean you should all go listen to um Steve jobs commencement address at stanford The speech is available On on youtube and it's a fantastic address. It talks about living. It talks about pursuing your passion. It talks about making your life The best life that it can be Yeah, steve jobs is an iron man hero Undoubtedly He is a man who applied his reason who took his career seriously had immense self-esteem And went out and built something created something. He didn't sit and whine and complain And i want to get to the whining and complaining in a minute These are people with purpose and self-esteem now Did he screw up in his personal life? Sure, he did. You remember reardon reardon screws up in his personal life Three quarters of atlas shrugged reardon is screwing up his personal life. Does that make him less of a hero fine rand? Does that make less a reardon less of a giant? I mean you could easily easily see steve jobs as a hand creator. Yes He messed up. He in his diet, right in his in his appeal of certain mysticism So did hand creator in his appeal of altruism the commitment to family his bogus relationship with his wife, right? But they are giants of production. They are giants of reason. They are giants of self-esteem. They're giants of purpose steve jobs Had immense self-esteem This world was his world when you saw him walk on that stage This world was his he lived in it. He deserved to live in it and he knew he deserved to live in it He belonged in this world And he could manage this world. He knew how to manipulate nature for his own Well-being He's a magnificent example Of a real life Hero reason purpose self-esteem in his business life. These are what steve jobs exemplify And what so many I would say almost all the leaders and entrepreneurs and and founders and Engineers and the workers in silicon valley This is what they exemplify This is what they exemplify Now if you look at the virtues You look at the objectives versus rationality productiveness independence justice pride I can't think of a group of people on the planet as you know where you can pick individuals within the group randomly Who more exemplify these virtues than the people living and working and producing and creating In silicon valley and again all the related aspects of it They are extraordinarily rational when it comes to their business life. Again, they're compartmentalized I get that their politics suck And maybe some of their personal choices suck but wow The way they continuously innovate think about independence think about independence think about the founder of uber Challenging the regulated world out there challenging an entrenched industry that has government and special interests and lawyers and everything protecting your taxes and he shatters that world and He comes up with an idea nobody else has And I bet you he gets rejected by By a bunch of different venture capitalists before he can raise his money like most startups in silicon valley who gets rejected regularly but ultimately succeed ultimately thrive so This is exactly what they do, right they think independently, this is the Primary characteristic of an entrepreneur thinking and being independent Who better exemplifies that again? then then bilgates steve jobs Uh, even people like larry ellison Uh, the guy who founded uber they found a baby to be and look at your mark zuckaboo I mean think about mark zuckaboo think about what he's built and what he's created right He's built a place Where literally hundreds of millions of people Spend time enjoy connect with one another It's astounding It's astounding it should be celebrated. It should put a smile on your face travis calonek is the uber guy. Sorry Forget names and calonek is not a name that's going to stick with me. It's very hard to very hard to sustain They're very hard to hold for me. Um anyway It's a beautiful beautiful place. I I lived in silicon valley from 93 to 2000 and the excitement the energy The fact that you could drive around at two or three in the morning And you could see the lights on In places where people were working Wow I mean, that's just thrilling. It's you know, it's that culture that is that is uh, that is producing The kind of products that are making our lives so much better That's so many of you who are pessimistic Who who think the world is coming to an end want to ignore when a pretend don't exist google think about google There's a company for you I mean, what would like be without google? it's stunning The the benefit uh that google has provided all of our lives for free for free They created a business model based on giving away free products right And of course before google there was yahoo And there were others and they competed but think think about what they've created Independence reflection of independence and rationality and of course productiveness again career focus justice one of the things about silicon valley is to the extent to which it's a meritocracy to the extent to which you Get compensated based on how much you create the value you produce Justice people are not You know on the downside people are not if you fail it's all like you're a loser No, right failure is an opportunity to learn And the fact that you fail is not necessarily going to stop somebody from funding your success in the future That whole model is based on application of reason to judging people and judging ideas Justice Where would you when you find a more just environment? Then silicon valley again as it applies to work as it applies to production And pride we talked a little bit about this in self-esteem I mean people in silicon valley are proud of their achievement as they should be And it's fabulous You know, they they know they change the world And they respect themselves for having changed the world so Silicon valley and the people in silicon valley the individuals in silicon valley I mean my view the best manifestation we have today not to say you couldn't have anything better of iron rands universe Of colorado in atlas shrugged of the spirit Of atlas shrugged and of the moral values and virtues that iron rand taught us of iron rands ethics again As applied in this one realm one realm granted these people are compartmentalized like most people are and I wish they weren't But remember so was so was written and so to a large extent was dagney Dagney does not agree with john galt Dagney fights john galt She's still a hero You don't have to agree with john galt in order to be a hero You don't have to be as fully integrated as fully knowledgeable As john galt in order to be a hero and yeah, certainly these people are know, you know, there are very few people who are dagney But written yeah, I see these people as written and and from from the work ethic from the work from the independence at work from from Yeah, I mean a lot of these co's in silicon valley that I've met over the years Certainly are the closest we have today the closest we have today to uh, to iron man heroes like written and dagney, okay um, so That's who they are morally now A lot of people condemn them because of their political positions and we should we should attack their political positions But morality is much more fundamental than politics morality is much more fundamental than politics Now we're all going to be effective negatively you would say from their political positions to the extent that they have political say true True But you know what think about the positives think about how wonderful our life is because these people are moral when it comes to their work because They exemplify these moral values think of how our lights are so much better now There's a lot of people out there a lot of trump supporters Objectivists are not objectivists who say oh Nothing's happened in the last 50 years from an economic perspective the last 30 years Being you know Nothing has changed. Well first read my book with don walkins equal is unfair because we cover this We really cover this whole idea that the economy has stagnated over the the myth that the economy has stagnated Completely over the last 30 years and then somebody told me well you're on if you believe the economy's advanced over the last 30 years I saw this on facebook or twitter Then you must think that the mixed economy is okay because we've had this horrible mixed economy So you must be a socialist you believe in government intervention because the economy's done better house How stupid do you have to be really? Yeah, the economy hasn't gotten better. It's gotten better because silicon valley is relatively free That's right If the entire economy had been free we would be Gazillions of times better than we are today So Yes If you just think about your own life The kind of products you were using 30 years ago and the kind of products you're using today The cost of those products 30 years ago and the cost of the products today The quality of the products 30 years ago and the quality of the products today But every parameter when you do those kind of Analysis Our lives from a material perspective are so much better today and the reason for that The reason for that is the people in silicon valley Even out cause A better today primarily because of the technology embedded in them The blue tooth and the fact that we can stream music and the fact that we have maps all stuff The silicon valley in one way or another is created and commercialized and think about Think about maps Do you remember when you traveled and I used I've always traveled a lot So taking out those big maps and trying to figure out where you were and getting lost and asking people and getting directions Do you remember getting directions from people? Do you remember how god awful getting directions was? horrific Now nobody stops with directions You got google maps. You got ways. I eat my favorite is ways. You got apple maps You know, there's a lot of apple maps jokes. I know but um Just think about how that that that little one app that one simple thing how that Has changed your life So silicon valley of the land of reason A land of purpose a land of people of self-esteem a land of independent thinking contrarians The iron man called them and and this is from jason's talk lonely and right And that's exactly what it's like if you've ever been in a startup It's lonely and people say no to you and no to you and no you really smart people tell you you don't know what you're talking about all the time right You're in front of venture capitalism. They make fun of you They say no to you and yet You have to stand up and keep going and you do Right a lot of people have turned down many of some of the best ideas coming out of coming out of silicon dollar Driven people who create real value and capture it and and again one of the beauties of the valley Is that it's so explicitly win-win It's so explicitly win-win in terms of the relationship Whether it's win-win with the customers Whether it's win-win with employees stock options the use of the use of stock the use of Heavy use of compensation through Stock to to to align incentives to make employees owners. I mean that's that's huge in the valley Such an act of justice and such an act of the trader principle Such an illustration a concrete of the trader principle Now long term thinking think about how long it takes these companies to come about now In pure technology Some of these things happen pretty quickly, but think about biotech, which is another big industry in silicon valley Think about biotech You can go 10 15 20 years until you see a result and people are willing to fund you for 10 years People talk about capitalism being short term. That is so ridiculous so ridiculous capitalism is essentially long term And biotech is a great example of this nothing in biotech is short term and The advances in biotech have been stunning over the last 20 years stunning And the value created by biotech companies has been stunning over the last 20 years and The advances I think we're going to have in the next 20 years If they if they remain to be allowed to be free and of course the the advances we would have had in biotech if not for the FDA That that'll be I mean, I'll have I'll do a show and we'll do a show on on The FDA and it's it's crippling and how it cripples innovation how it cripples our lives Just just CRISPR CRISPR there's this new gene splicing technology I mean, I've read a little bit about them and I and I I'm not, you know, I'm not I'm not I don't fully understand but just from what I've read Stunning the ability now to To splice genes to do genetic engineering quickly really really fast the gene editing Really really fast and really really efficiently I mean it blows my mind. I love this stuff. I love this stuff You know, this is what If we had a free world If we had the reason I want freedom one of the reasons so many reasons one of the main reasons I want freedom is I want more of this kind of stuff I want to be able to open up the newspaper And see stories about the wonderful new innovations that have come about the wonderful new science the wonderful new technology That has been created and and and and that would be the top of the news, right? That would be the exciting things and that's what you get when you actually follow When you actually follow Silicon Valley and it's On spine right and I know the people on the chat and elsewhere That have been trained to be cynics and can do nothing But complain and bitch and I want to get to this point because this is a point that pisses me off royally um One of the really bad things I notice within objectivism And one of the really bad things I notice among objectivists in the objectives community And I've noticed this for 30 years. I've been an objectivist I I read out was shrugged Oh my god the next year to be 40 years ago four zero Um, I've seen a lot of objectivists. I've met a lot of objectives. I've interacted with a lot of objectivists and I've only been A leader in the objectives movement if you will for the last 16 17 years So I you know, I just interacted with people One of the things that always is upsetting Uh and still upsets me Uh obsessing more now than ever Is people who use objectivism as excuse for their own failure People who use objectivism as an excuse to fail and to rationalize their failure Right, you want to criticize steve jobs go build a company go create something go make something go build something Make your presence known on this planet Right steve jobs change the world until you are in a category of changing the world really Really You want to criticize I know a lot of objectivists say, oh, I didn't succeed because the world's the status world I didn't succeed because and you know, there's some truth to this. I'm not saying there's no truth to it And suddenly in your certain professions like in art It's it's very difficult to succeed in a in a culture like we have today in In academia. It's very difficult. There's certain areas as an intellectual. It's very difficult to succeed But if you're in business And and you're not in any particular business with your business Stop using Stop using the excuse that the world is not good enough for you to be good in Find that part of the world where you can't be successful. You only live once You're not being successful for me. You're not being six being successful for other objectivists You're not being successful for your parents You need to be fine where you can be successful and be successful in your own life for you for you So go make a success of yourself There are no excuses. I'm sorry We still live in a mostly free world. We still live in an era If you look at human history in one of the freest errors in human history where there are more opportunities other than maybe in the 19th century More opportunities today than ever before I don't buy excuses I'm not saying that This is true of everybody who who has not been successful. Yeah, there are certain circumstances I know where the government has crushed you where Collectivism and and the culture have made it impossible for you To be successful, but that's rare very very rare. Most of people I know Most of people I know who are objectivists and bitterly constantly non-stop complain A failure is because of their own choices Not failures because of the culture And the people I admire The most other people who succeeded in this culture So they found a way they fought it They went out and chose and found a field where they could push forward for themselves not for me Not for anybody else for themselves because they value their own life And you know what there's a lot of niggas. There's a lot of bad stuff in the world out there There's a lot of bad stuff in the world out there And it's so easy to get depressed And it's so easy to Sit back and say, oh my god Stand up living is going down and the government's coming and this is coming and I pay huge taxes and all that I can do that I can do that, right Right, I pay well 50% of my tax of the money I make in taxes You know a lot of what I do is regulate I stand in the stupid lines and it puts security There's plenty of stuff that airplanes I fly I fly in a lot of airplanes and some of them really suck And I know how much they suck relative to the kind of airplanes they could be Like I could be flying around in a boom. I don't know if you've seen boom boom. Boom is exactly an example Here's an entrepreneur and and somebody remind me of his name. He's an objectivist. Here's an entrepreneur Who said I'm gonna take on One of the most regulated controlled static You know a concentrated industries in the world, which is airlines, right? airplane building two companies make almost all the airplanes in the world I'm gonna take them on Blake Scholes. Blake Scholes is the is the entrepreneur. I'm gonna take them on I am gonna design a supersonic airplane. I'm gonna get it done. I'm gonna make it fly I'm gonna make it happen. I don't care about the chinese I don't care about Boeing. I don't care about I am gonna figure it out and I'm gonna solve a great great problem And I'm gonna create something beautiful and amazing For me because it's gonna be fun. And you know what? There's a high possibility I'm gonna fail because the f a a will never allow my plane to fly But god damn it. I'm gonna go out there and try and push and and and make the most of the opportunity that I have That I admire That is a hero And I as I said I could and I got distracted because about boom But my point is that you could sit back and you could find a gazillion things wrong in the world And believe me I can I come from a culture Jewish culture that is really really good at this and I enter I you know, I'm constantly on the road. I I meet inefficiency and government and and lack of productiveness and bad products and I know what's possible so I could I could easily do that I could easily say that I could easily live like that But I don't because what's the point? Yeah, I recognize it. I look at the airplanes and I say shit This plane is much slower than it could be. I could be in europe in half the time. This sucks I do that for a fraction of a second But you know what? I'm pretty happy being up there in the air Browsing on the internet because there's wi-fi on the airplane and I'd rather focus on that I'd rather focus on all the good things in my life and all the good things that people like Blake shows hopefully will create for me like Steve Jobs has already created for me like the hundreds no the thousands the tens of thousands of entrepreneurs Who are creating better stuff for me every single day In the valley in seattle in austin in boston in all the centers of technology out there That's what i'm focused on. That's what you should be focused on how to make your life the best life that it can be Not a moaning and complaining and bitching how to Identify and and see achievement when it's out there. It's right in front of your face. There's wonderful things right in front of your face Embrace them enjoy them. I was just driving The other night. I came I came flew into los angeles and I gave a talk and so I was driving I was driving with don whitkins home Late at night and we were driving by the The skyline of of los angeles And I just noticed from a particular angle one of the buildings on the skyline and it's gorgeous And particularly at night the way they've structured the lights on the building. It's it's just stunningly pretty and innovative and inspiring And I'd much rather focus on that than on I I could I could give a five-hour talk On how Government has crushed innovation and architecture and government has crushed city development and all the highway suck and there's traffic everywhere Stop it. What's the point? Right, what's the point? Um It is it is uh, you know I have an eye watch I can track I can track all the stuff that I do during the day I mean this thing my iphone is is this amazing amazing technology and I've got this Video camera that I just press a button and it looks to it links into facebook live Without any effort and here we are on facebook live with thousands of people going to watch this show and How cool is all this How cool is the mind that creates all this? I don't know how you create a camera like this I don't even have the famous idea and I'm an engineer and I have no clue I have such admiration and respect for people who can created integrated circuits on a silicon chip I I was a dumb civil engineer. I get how you build a bridge. How do you do these tiny little things? How do you get them to behave? I don't understand how computers work. I understand zero one actually programmed in uh I used to do a lot of programming that I program in assembler In assembler. Actually, I remember I was the last class in my school that did punch cards so I I get computers a little bit And yet I don't get them at all I don't get them at all. I don't know how my computer is doing what it's doing at the speed that it does at all Humans to quote somebody on the chat to quote penny on the chat humans are amazing And these humans These humans that you want to bitch and complain about their political positions are amazing Amazing human beings So the solution is not to bitch and complain The solution is how do we convince them their political positions are wrong? How do we convince them To come to our side That's what we should spend our energy on That's what we should be thinking of. These are good guys and gals How do we turn these people into People whose politics is consistent with their moral values with their sensual moral values at work How do we convince them that the moral values that they exemplify at work Should be their moral values at home How do we convince them that? Objectivism is a philosophy for living the kind of life they exemplify at work That's what we should be spending our time on Right. I I much rather spend my time on trying to figure that one out than talking about donald trump. Who cares? The world Or let me put it this way if we cannot convince These giants If we not cannot convince these heroes If we not cannot convince the people who design and make the amazing technology that has been integrated into every aspect of our life If we can't convince them of the truth of objectivism, what the hell are we doing? Who else is there? That's the the silicon valley is the barometer And I actually I actually take the fact that silicon valley is responding to donald trump The way they are as a sign of their virtue Because you know what I think about donald trump But it's more than that one of the reasons and I talk about this in a show I did way back One of the reasons silicon valley is so leftist and anti-republican is because Silicon valley Through its virtue will not support candidates who don't believe in evolution I think that's a good thing These are secular pro-science people They're not gonna vote for crazy religious nuts to govern to govern so They are pro-science Being pro-science has nothing to do with being leftist or rightist They're pro-science as a first and foremost All right Um And they're pro-science because they live science they live science every day They live science every day in a way that you guys don't live in the way that we all don't have an appreciation for Science is not about politics science is science science is about What what what what what these guys are doing all the time and and and you know, I didn't even get into the whole The whole history of silicon valley, which is just fascinating, you know and and you know How it all kind of mushroomed out of one company that that you know, I was shockingly semiconductors that then spun it that people left and created fairchild and then fairchild spun off and created intel and and advanced micro devices and the whole vc world was created out out of fairchild semiconductors and it you know just Just the integrated nation the beauty of this whole thing is just so I mean the history of silicon valley is so amazing and and how it all really sent us around stanford hp hula packout, which Which is You know, which is really the first real silicon valley company is I love it. I love people and you know on the chat You know with great grandiose statements like your own book doesn't know what science is Good for you guys Let me say one other thing I want to say one thing about because this links us back to the politics Silicon valley exemplifies The idea the the idea of diversity in a positive sense And silicon valley is about justice silicon valley is about About talent It's about ability So in silicon valley, you're not Evaluate based on where you come from You're not evaluated based on Your uh Your color of your skin. You're not evaluated based on your ethnic background. You're evaluated based on how good you are And as a consequence silicon valley is being this become this amazingly diverse place Not diverse for the sake of diversity, but diverse because The best Smartest most capable people in the world go there and many of them happen to be indians Many of them happen to be chinese. Many of them happen to be israelis Many of they happen to be scandinavians. Some of them happen to be americans more than half of The u.s. Unicorns, you know these these major startups that are valued at one billion or more have at least one immigrants as a founder Silicon valley is the land of immigrants The sea of microsoft and the sea of google are both from indian origins I remember in the 90s Half the startups i saw when i was evaluating startups because i did a little bit of venture capital in those days were indians and israelis I mean, it's it's this is what diversity If there is a positive meaning to the world, this is what it really looks like it's Getting the best The most talented from everywhere in the world and by the way, this is what Many within the trump administration Want to crush and and this connects me although i'll talk about this more on the a560 show to the common banner made a negative comment that he made about about the fact that Two-thirds of three coders of co and silicon value from south asian or from asia And they try he stopped himself and then he says a country is more than an economy or a civic society suggesting that having asians and south asians Detracts from our ability to be a civic society. That's that's an exact quote from Bannon and and i'll i'll talk about i'm going to talk about the context in my next show By the way, you got the numbers wrong Which doesn't really matter to me but 27 of professionals working in silicon valley companies Asian or asian american They represent 19 of managers and under 14 of executives, but You know who cares if it's two-thirds of three coders. That's fine as well So You know, this is my this is my takeaway stop obsessing about the negative Stop using the negative as an excuse for your own lack of success Stop using the negative as an excuse For not pursuing your dreams for not making the most of your life Stop using the negative For not living for not living Use silicon valley as a model as a model of people who take their life seriously model of people who think independently Who are rational who have self esteem Who are willing to engage and find new ideas in spite of opposition in spite of difficulties in spite of barriers Engaging win-win transactions with anybody who they think has talent and ability And who contribute something These are long-term thinkers These are people to be admired These are stories To be learned from to be examined You know Be optimistic optimistic not in a sense of delusional not in a sense of non-objectivity but in a sense of confidence in your own ability and in a sense of An appreciation an appreciation for the grandeur and beauty Of life and the world around you and the achievements of human beings Around you the achievements that are happening every single day That's the kind of optimism. I think every objective should have Wow, it's amazing out there Look at what the human race has achieved. Look how good life is. Yeah, I could be better and I'm gonna fight to make it better And I know how to make it better And I'm gonna go out there and teach People how to make it better. I'm gonna educate them I'm gonna educate them because you know what they're human beings human beings who create these amazing things These apps on the iphone the iphone this camera my computer Those are human beings that are that are worth fighting for That are worth trying to educate This is not a world filled with irrational brutes Which is if you follow the donald trump campaign You might think It's not It's a world filled with creative amazing people Who are mistaken And we need to help them see the light We need to help them See the truth And we're not gonna help anybody Primarily not gonna be able to help ourselves If we can't see the light and see the truth if we are so mired in in in depression and the hatred and Delusion delusion of self grandeur was so much better than the world the world doesn't you know Imagine if I in random said after 12 publishers rejected Atlas shrugged. Ah I'm so much better than this world I'm so much better than these people What's the point? Right. I'm I'm just gonna continue my life complain. She never complained really she fought She fought And and she fought In a positive way. She celebrated achievement. She celebrated businessmen Even in a world where businessmen don't celebrate themselves All right, I'm gonna recommend a couple of I'm I'm a command kind of Just for fun and I'm I'm gonna recommend this tv show and unfortunately, I'm not gonna take any more phone calls So so you can call in next time. I apologize Um, I'll I'll make sure that next time we'll have some time to take your calls on this issue and then You know, so Sorry, but I've only got five minutes I'm gonna recommend this tv show but only to people who admire silicon valley This is not Your cynics don't watch this please And that's silicon valley on hbo the comedy Because I I think it's hysterical. I think it's very fun And I think it it it makes fun Of aspects of silicon valley that are worthy of making fun of And it makes but it doesn't I don't think it makes fun of of the core of silicon valley I don't think it makes fun of their reason their productiveness their hard work and and their self-esteem But it makes fun of of certain characters in silicon valley certain aspects of silicon valley And I thought season one a season two hysterical so Yeah, I'm relieved to know that liwanawai and I don't just disagree on the concretes of reality And we don't just disagree on how you abstract those concretes into into principles But we also have fundamental disagreements about aesthetics and humor, which is great. Um It's a it's a terrific show That it has kind of a making fun of and love Relationship with its characters and and I enjoyed it a lot and I think I enjoyed it a lot because I lived in silicon valley and I know people like this and I know a lot of people in silicon valley And I know what it takes to start a company and I know how they work at it and I know anyway Those of you who love technology others you love silicon valley so that you can have the right perspective on the show I found it very funny and I really uh, I really enjoyed it. I want to also recommend a movie um And uh, I think I might have recommended this before But I want to recommend the movie taka taka in taka is a movie Uh, based on a true story um, and it's it's made by fanciful coppola and You know, actually I should have looked this up in advance in terms of who the actors are a bit It's uh, it's based on a true story about taka who built an automobile There was a way ahead of its time in uh in the 1950s and ultimately was destroyed by Coneyism um and uh You know according to the movie and and the question of whether this is right or wrong Uh, historically, I don't know. I'm not taking a position but The movie shows a passionate Engaged Dreamer A dreamer who then goes out into the world and You know Created and built it And is never crushed in spite of the opposition is never Is never pulled down because of the opposition and You know, it's called it's it's called taka the man and his dream Uh, jeff bridges is the is the uh main character. I think he does a good job It has a a fictional cameo by Howard Hughes how it uses portrayed as a good guy Uh, which I think Before he went crazy I think I mean he really did go crazy. I think he was a good guy And I think maybe one of the reasons Howard Hughes went crazy was because of the kind of opposition he got But uh, I really enjoyed I'd really enjoyed taka partially because of the sense of life it projected that go get it Um, you know hold that tiger is kind of the the the the song you always repeat because the tiger just charges and taka just charges But he's smart And it shows the struggles the difficulties the difficulties of entrepreneurs real difficulties, right what it takes So, uh, so I'm uh I'm a I'm a big fan All right. Well, thanks everybody. Hope you enjoyed the show today. We covered covered quite a bit If you're interested in my views on Donald Trump's appointees so far. I will cover those in about an hour on am 560 Chicago You can find the station online. I'll also try To stream it on um on facebook live, although there they are long commercial So you have to tolerate long periods of silence during uh during the live stream And I will talk to all of you Next week and hopefully I provided a little bit of inspiration. Just a oh Happy Thanksgiving. By the way, one of the reasons I did I forgot to say this One of the reasons I did the Silicon Valley show today is because this week is the week in which we celebrate producers We celebrate creators. We celebrate builders. We celebrate the most productive people in our world and I'm going to celebrate Silicon Valley this week at A Thanksgiving dinner, so I hope you have all of you whether you live in the united states or not Have a great Thanksgiving. Don't forget to celebrate production We'll talk to you next week. How do you turn this off?