 So we're here with IMEK, so who are you? So my name is Katin Phillips, I'm a program director at IMEK. What is IMEK? IMEK is a non-for-profit research institute, so we work with companies across the world. And where are you based? We're based in Belgium and England, like 95% of our income is coming from bilateral partnerships with industry, where we do research on these days, especially the IoT applications, so the low-power technologies that you need for communication and sensing. So here's, on the wall you're showing cloud computing, data analytics, heterogeneous networking, lots of different stuff. Well, a sensor network platform, is this what you do? What do you do with this? Yes, it's not that hard of what we do, so I would say traditionally we've been focusing on the sensor nodes and making them lower power, like on the battery lifetimes. So we've been designing a few radio modules, like for gigahertz, one is still the most powerful energy device. So it's BTLE? It's a multi-standard BTLE safety and proprietary mode, and over there we have a long-range, some gigahertz variant, so that's some of the outdoor smart sensors. And you design on TSMC, do you use ARM processors in there? We use ARM processors in there. What kind of CPU do you have? So it has M0 plus and M3, it's the type of processor that we use inside. So low power? It's low power, it's also industry standard, something which is a reference platform to any of the companies in the field. For the software also? The software is a big advantage, so today our contribution to the software is limited, although we're climbing up there, but it's very important for our customers that we use industry reference platforms. In fact, like arguments of, let's say, limited-definition software porting is an important one there, so they want to stick to the processors that they know, and on top of that they want to have the state-of-the-art technology. So what are you showing here at the show? What's this? So this movie is basically showing the potential of our ion sensors, so that it's a very open, it's a printed technology, where it can do pH sensing and various ions. So it's printed? It's a printed technology, it's a printed variant, it's also bi-compatible, so it's a well-fit for food monitoring. It can also be used for dehydration monitoring. It's bendable, so you can also stick it on the skin. We have plasters for this mutation. Is this real, or is just samples testing? What is this? These ones are real samples, so you can connect them to a virus readout, and then you can read out the pH of any solution, milk, water, whatever you have doubts on. So printed electronics is a big part of IoT in the future? Well for sure it is for the low-cost applications, so that really enables all the sensors that are going to put the data on the internet. So IoT is about connected things, but first of all you need to have low cost... So how far is IoT? There is IoT already, and there is lots of IoT in the future. What is going on in the industry? I would say today IoT is limited to just monitoring. If you really want to have the comfort of IoT, you somehow need to make this closed loop and give the consumer comfort. It needs to be intuitive. It needs to be without human interaction, and we're not there yet. So you see a lot of nice examples, like the smart fridge is a very well known one, but in the end I believe that the value is still limited in those applications, because it's limited at the value. So you have other examples in the industry where in the end you're going to have a lot of energy saving, expense saving, maintenance saving, and there I see true value on the short term of IoT. You're showing stuff here about some trains with IoT? This demo is about air quality monitoring. So basically what we do here, we have a few wireless sensor notes inside of the train, inside of the tunnel, and the demo is basically showing that if you put the train inside of a tunnel where there's some pollution, you can have a light readout of NO2, CO2, VOCs, and so on. So air quality is an application which is increasing in importance, both for indoor applications as well as outdoor. So you are a non-profit? We're a non-profit. So this part of the university, or what is this? No, it's an independent organization. We have like 94% of our income comes from bilateral collaborations with big industrial companies. So all the semiconductor companies of this world, all the factories companies, we work with them. It's very important for IoT that there needs to be some kind of platform that works, right? Yeah, yeah. So we definitely take the platform approach, technical platform, also a platform in terms of ecosystem. So Amic works with hundreds of companies in this space and also acting as a neutral partner that brings together both IDMs, OEMs, CEMIs, research institutes. So we really are a link between academia, industry, and various partners in the ecosystem. So how many people are in Amic? And since when is it existing? It's 2,300 people, a lot of industrial residents. 2,000? Yes, a few hundreds of industrial residents, people coming from their company work with us and act as an ambassador to bring the knowledge at Amic into their company. We have been founded in 1984, so that's over 30 years of existence. 30 years working on what? We initially started with process technology like all the CMOS processes. We worked there with all the leading founders of this world, so TSMC, all the other, basically all the founders. That is our historical core business. But since like 15 years we've been building our reputation on wireless, for instance, IC design, circuit design, and these days we're climbing up, taking on board also the software and the system aspects of IoT.