 I guess it's six o'clock, so I'll call the meeting to order Don't have anybody for public comment So we can go right on with the town administrators report. I expect we're going to set a record tonight in terms of meeting adjournment So I have the hardwood union appointment of the select board of the school board member on 919 during their regular meeting so The more town select board can make a recommendation. Okay, who represent more town, right? So I think you've been passing along all the letters in a comm except for one more that came tonight that was in favor of Kristen And the other two members are Denise Russo I Did a little thing on the front there So for Kristin Rogers Just parent and nurse at CVH The letters of support and we received from skip Rogers Rebecca Davis resident and parent Peter Langella former board member Jason marrying resident Sasha Bianchi Resident and parent Laura shallow resident parent Daniel Mitchell resident and Brian Fleischer Jim Casey ran last year as a Writer he moved here from Waterbury where it was on the school board Denise Russo is a parent work for the state of Vermont marketing experience and communications Linda hazard parent moved here in June all three kids in more town Program director of Vermont Department of Health Massive degree in audiology the doctorate in educational leadership and social policy so Kristen Rogers was the only one who got letters of support Said to you from the community, right, right? Yeah, I'm just wondering if the others even realize that we had some say in this But I Have one question about the letters did any of the letters emphasize cost control I Don't know So you've got Three choices not to make a recommendation or to write a written recommendation Or have someone to go for the select board and make your resident your recommendation if you want to verbal it Okay Now did you talk to Tom about that? See if you'd be available Last week, I thought he said it was gonna be out of town for a couple of days. Okay, so If we make a recommendation tonight verbally, how does that get to them Okay It can be modified Okay, well, why don't I why don't I do this to make make it official when I move that We recommend Kristen salt by Kristen Rogers As the more town representative To the Harvard Union Unified School District Second County Seconds and more discussion. Yes. Yeah I'm I've got mixed feelings on this one. They're very much appreciate the effort Christian Right into the board getting recommendations actually coming to the board and responding to questions, which I feel she answered very well On the other hand, this was just brought up. We don't know if the other candidates even knew Slug words involvement. They should have they should have checked into that and the other part is I don't feel that I have a lot of knowledge of all the candidates to make a really way to consideration now The effort that Kristen went through counts for quite a bit. So I'm not saying No, I don't want to make a recommendation But I feel that Well, then it's where the cameras decision And this person's only on top To abstain Yeah, I and Jason So the letter says Dear miss Sullivan That's Christine Sullivan the board chair the town of more town received several letters of support requesting Kristen Rogers Be considered for appointment to fill the vacancy on the Harvard Unified Howard Union Unified School District Board At this time the town of more towns like board respectfully Recommends that Kristen Rogers be appointed to the HUU SD school board as More towns representative to fill the vacancy until town meeting in March 2019 Okay Okay Okay Okay Jv I hit the wrong John and he didn't notice that I had sent it to him Okay, so we contacted Jv and was on there should have been on there mid-morning There And my other But maybe you should consider a Begin date certain after which Properties purchased after that time would fall the subject of that and those who Property only for that time could go with the old regulations. I think there's been grandfathered stuff before Mm-hmm That's a yeah, that's a good point. So you mean every property like a property that's owned or Is grant on before the regulations commence grandfathered not just the subdivisions that were started before Yeah, I think anything from whenever they're knackered prior to that should be could be should be could be you know exempt or Grandfather, I can't think of Exact examples of things of the grandfather. We haven't I think we have in the past And What about if the property were to change hands well does it go with the property or the Ownership ownership. Yeah, okay Yeah, well, I have a question for you on that. Yeah, is there anything in the current proposed regulations that you believe is harmful or that I haven't I don't know if there's any changes that happen since the meeting back in August Right, yeah, and we don't have a list of suggestions if you Yeah Comments by October I'm just thinking yeah changes don't work for you. They probably don't work for a whole category of people. Yeah, I'm just any I'm always wearing the shelves in there and the Anything that isn't carefully spelled out, which may give ERB too much of the way in their analysis or You know, it's just anything that's mandatory or shall or a Or something that is so vague that can be interpreted in Who knows how many different ways? I Specifically I think right now what you know, I know there was some landscaping things in there and some road language that was kind of either vague or too too broad You know, I try to Figure out where you're going with it Like I said, I'll try to sit down and write something up Which I don't think thanks because I'd rather fix it. Yeah Great, thank you. Okay No So see the RPC will be assisting with the grant. Okay, I They said that they could do it for that amount I mean, we'll send out with the guidelines a federal guidelines, of course, we'll send out our peas and The bid process whatever So we'll get that paid for So that is a pima tremendous, thank you And the last thing that I have was just something for thought I Think the Montgomery timber appeal is going to be going to court My food for thought would be do we want to keep with Paul Gillis or do we want to? Get Ron Shun's involved so Ron Shun's charges a hundred fifty dollars on all Paul Gillis charges a hundred forty dollars So that's just something for you to think about okay. Yeah, because it would be good to have the other two board members Wow That's right Cal you have anything yeah, yeah So it's the budgeting workshop on Tuesday. Oh, it was fantastic. Oh good The ten administration weight field did a presentation on town reports and putting the budget in the town report and how to sell the budget to the townspeople which is very Interesting you did a really good job with it So he's PowerPoint wasn't in The fourth the folder that we got so they're going to know that Yep, send it out because this presentation was really good They talked about water grants the last presentation was long Yeah Legal yeah It was very dry But other than that it was really good for the first time I remember a lot Did they cover anything about tracking the budget once the budget is passed And what reports do you see? What it looks like is every town is different because they give us a copy of Hartford's and that was Challenging to read like their highway department has a summer budget and a winter budget And it's all categorized and it's all over the place We actually have a summer and hundred budget too, but it's all combined in our reports. It's all combined as one Yeah, because your bottom line is your bottom line Exactly, and that was one of the things that they said it and presenting in the town reports is to keep things as clear and concise as you can and to think More general but also Think for those deeper questions because some people Anticipate what people are going to want to know so you're prepared to answer it Mm-hmm This is your first full budget you're gonna be going through, right? You're gonna be getting a draft budget is the next meeting No, the next 15 So that'll be good that you can look at that and hopefully we'll have waste fields Because I think what waste field does is they put their operating budget What's spent and they also have their revenue? And there as well, right? So that's some that's a manipulated report that can't be done off in our system But if that's what you want, we can do it for the town report Anything you want from the town report the one thing they also talked about is different ideas if you want Just trying to get people more aware of doing open houses, and they would do like a traveling Kind of part of the day where if the highway department wants a new truck or something else and the fire department wants a new truck You can go The highway department talk to the people there walk around see what things look like Then you can go just Walk around you have like an open house To show the two words yep, so videos time-lapse videos So they had to the departments. Did you see that the departments had to prove? To the select board why they need? this What what there's what their summer plans were on the roads and why they needed? Yeah, more budget near culverts or more? Yeah, and this is more of like getting it out to your townspeople to present it in a way that I can see it right and who who Who encouraged the departments to? Did they say who encouraged was at the select board encouraging the road department? I think There was it was coming from either the select board or the town administrator or the town clerk saying hey This may be a good idea. I guess Barry used to do a tour Barry town I've gone to a couple of those at Barry town. Yeah, they have two hours. They were doing some yeah Every time handle some different how they how you request or particles I guess, you know What I'm afraid of in that approach is It sounds like a way to make it easier to sell budget increases it doesn't sound like a way to Go over budgets to look for savings or what could be done to And that's why really in our town report. We've never had the revenue in there because of course Your revenue shows in there if you've got a grant you spent 40,000 out for a grant you got reimbursed 37,500 the difference was your town pay. I was talking more of the open house It's a way for the people in the town to see why they the example that he used was in One highway garage to move trucks in and out because of the size of it. They had to spend a Half an hour to an hour moving stuff around back and forth and No one really understood Why in the town so they did a video and they did a time-lapse video where you can see it Going through and how long it takes and that was very eye-opening just for the public to say, oh, okay There's actually Good Jason Now I have a work in progress okay going over the John descriptions and seeing how they lay out and It was very handy that you highlighted whoever did the yellow stuff that was moved What we don't have is for each task we don't know the hours Okay Not realistic and without knowing the hours it's hard to put it together into 40-hour packages your 20-hour packages Yeah That's from experience Priority comes along so Okay, well the only thing I have is I would like to thank Katrina for a job well done Organizing more fist Good time. Yeah, I'm very happy with the way it turned out Yeah, the only suggestions I've received from next year was more food, which we knew going into it We didn't have enough So that was the biggest one. Yeah No, we're gonna stick with that same Time frame for next year. It's gonna be a week earlier. We're weak early. It's gonna be the weekend between Labor Day Yes Yeah, was there anything else people mentioned that they might like to see um, there was a few We needed more shade and you know, it's gonna be 85 degrees that day I'm moving the band closer. I think actually Dwayne and I talked about it that evening network might get a flatbed trailer and put it in the middle of field so the band is actually on the field rather than over there and More food vendors. Yeah, it was just more food Actually a pretty long email about they really like the historical society's display and they want some more of that More of their what the history of the town display every year. Yeah Yeah, but I Raid reviews from everybody. We had almost 200 people which is way more than what we normally have That's good. And that was just for me standing there counting at one point by the time I hit like one Head button to the beer tent Sheriff was very happy he said he had no problems with anybody who comes with driving Parking nothing. Did it get busier later as far as the beer tent? Well, there's probably a good 30 40 people in there about 6 30 After most everything had died down that's Why everybody was But then I mean once fireworks started too, I bet there was more like 250 down here because The back parking lot got full too. I mean sweet lips sent people to where the car show was to park So the fireworks are pretty big. Mm-hmm. Yeah That's tremendous Fun time Or then you know There was Yeah, I think I think Which which one's which one's that? I remember yeah, I do remember For more Jones choice, I mean I I thought that Corvette the 64 the white one. Yeah. Yeah, because it was all original Yeah, even the paint Yeah Yeah, really That I like to look at the beller. Yeah. Yeah, it was it was very tough to make that decision It was very pretty car. What's that? Yeah, yeah Okay, what else we have here? This is From Don butson Um I made the change on our house and the house index But was just told that the listers have opted to not have us update the index for them So they will need to make these changes in their CMA CMA So they've decided not to have Numeric update for the index. Yeah, okay. So when Title surface comment, it's not correct Okay, well the listers they've decided not to have CAI do it. I've talked to Mike and Deborah this afternoon And they're going to be doing it themselves Okay, updating the camera Um, I asked them what the fee would be to have them To have CAI do it and that said they said Um, there would be a fee not not a whole big fee, but there would be a fee So I know you're looking over an estimate For a numeric to do work to help the listers So, I don't know if that's something that you want to ask At the time to make sure that they are doing the camo work as well if you decide to go with this Go what work? CMA Yeah I was thinking about that One of the risks there is that any work over what they think has to be done Costs us $75 an hour. Yeah, the original contracts give two. Yeah So also what I found too when I was looking at that I actually have to copy of their original contract We've had them since 2012 and their price hasn't changed at all and they've never gone to work This Some additional liability to the estimate. I'm just thinking that another way to cover that risk is anything That starts going over could be additional work for our listers instead, right, which would be a cheaper way possibly Depending on what it is. Yeah So that might be a way to Worry less about the 75 an hour for a mortgage. Thank you for digging up the contract. Oh, yeah It's just a Next thing is a funny farm guard rail From the town garage, it says uh, good morning. I just hung up with the Lafayette Sheldon company regarding the guard rail installed to protect the house on pony farm Yesterday the price is more than I expected. They quoted me 1690 install Thanks for martin So he's looking for No, they just uh, I think the homeowners Waiting for the town's opinion and I don't know if martin's talked it up Is he a precedent for sharing costs or something like that? I thought I would say the whole thing if there wasn't one Martin said it wasn't needed as a road as far as road safety goes Okay And then we have got the notice of the alleged violation for the mad river We Uh management Resource management alliance Is this the same thing we had last year? Yeah, yeah And you saw my email from John Malter. Yeah He'll get it in for the but before the violation day is september 25th or whatever, but then he's gonna have an audit done Rightfully so it's a good job by them I think to Be on top of that stuff So that the representation of How much we're actually shipping here in this district Well, this is an interesting letter Oh, you weren't here last week when they read that last oh the real last week Okay, but and they asked for maps the man that wants to go Okay, okay, so I put maps in there and I didn't I think Maybe didn't tell mass write it right off. Maybe you see what it looked like. I can't remember Oh, is it going on? Yes But he's also I hadn't had a chance to look at his got a major change with the tax maps But I haven't looked to see if I can find I haven't done the background work yet He's also going to ask Martin if that's been used Yeah for like a turnaround or something because it wasn't very big So you can leave that until next time if you want Okay, so it's it's only 0.45 Well an acre Changed I think right did they go from 0.45 to all right, right? Yeah, right, right, okay So I I'm gonna try to figure out which one it actually is Okay And these are Okay For the sub division And We saw this one too, right on the The letter from Kathy and Scomitz Yes Right We use as a witness for the defense So we'll see Yeah We have not we have not received any reply back from our comments yet that I have seen that would be the next step that We answered the questions of Mm-hmm My guess is The first thing will be a request for both parties on mediation. They always do So you could be thinking about options bargaining I'm still hoping we won't be a party You'd definitely be a party because they appealed to decisions Mm-hmm, but we may not need to be an active Or I don't know. Yeah We'll see That's it. I mean when we know then we'll be here You have to think about Who's going to pursue this for the town? I don't think it would take anyone too long to catch up. I have When this started I started writing down what happened and when and so I've got a whole flow chart of what happened and when Right up to this right up to the appeal Where's your flow chart start? I don't remember what year. I think it was 2013 or 2012 Because there was a lot of activity predating that and me Yeah Yeah Mm-hmm Yeah, for sure because all those years we thought the trail was That location that that has been used and so on and so forth for all those years Yeah, I copied all the Okay, so let's move on to the minutes approval of nine four I was late. Yeah, but that is true that you don't have to suppose they don't have to be there. That's what you said Okay It's certainly not the way that I have always been doing it so So I'll make a motion to approve the minutes So can we uh, so we don't have enough board members to approve them. Oh, if you weren't here Yeah The same with nine 10 Uh, nine 10 You were one. We were all here. What? Yeah, so we can do that And then you got the second copy that was a lot clearer than the first? Yeah. Yeah, that was cheating I was like, I sent it to him and he's like, let's go with this slide And that's you know, the board wants us to wait until we have the full board for those two That doesn't matter to me It must not make sense. Yeah, mine is mine as well. Yeah, yeah Okay, old business, uh, the um, what a very Ambulance service. I have some stuff for you, but I'd rather everybody be here. Okay Yeah I didn't choice that record Okay, um And then the numeric Got that And I would say that we should do the finance committee update. Um, seeing that Uh, charlotte did make a deposit of 500 000 to north phil savings bank For Community The nine the nine month cd at two percent And the um, I did want to mention that it Is not totally fdic insured, but it's backed by Um, their mortgages Well the first 250 but um, well, wait a minute. We already have No, we don't have anything there. Yes. We do have something there. Yeah We have a cemetery So that's that's about a hundred But you're right still Is fdic insured all of our funds together and the balance the total balance Is insured by the north phil savings banks via the collateral of the mortgages Is the cemetery fund there under town of mortem or cemetery fund of town more town more town If that were cemetery fund of town and mortem instead That would not Would you 50 k Right, but I think it's 50 000 or something like that. It's not okay It's a perpetual fund Okay, anything else you want to add to that or no and the The thing I wanted to add to that is that we're not going to see a 500 dollar rolling item for the coming year for interest so right, right because You only deposited 500 000 and 500 000 is going to be still available to use for payments and Right, right, right instead of a tan, right? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I just wanted to make that clear in the medicine case Right, right. Yeah. Okay. Um other old business um, I think We've talked about whatever else I I I would say that the higher screening plan can be taken off I asked him about that And I think he's I think this this plan is still to plant trees isn't it? But You have to order some more Maybe it can be taken off until it's mentioned again I don't know. I mean there would have to be There would have to be Measurements and everything taking it Yeah, so I was just just just leave it on that. I know. Yeah All righty New business, okay You want to do anything else? Besides order sheets I can tell you this is definitely and I are going to a, um, grant writing workshop for One of the main those grants fire department ones. It's a assistance of fire budget grant. We're going to a grant writing workshop on Thursday The people that decide to tell you how to write So we're going to that Well, this is the benefits of having Cheryl and Katrina Boyle boy and the olden days There's no way we'd ever end a meeting this early So thank you for job. Well done This is for you she called again said that you would call Carol all right. Yeah, okay And she's very interested in getting easement Right Yeah, yeah, uh, he's had some family issue And so I actually called her today Oh, that's her. Oh good Um, and she's probably calling back tonight Uh, it would be either tomorrow or or Wednesday. Yeah, that's her work Good, okay Uh-huh, okay All right, good. Thanks Do we have other outstanding Uh, right way issues? Nope. That's it. That's it. We only have that one because state pulled that into the project For which I am going to Remind them of if we run over budget Who's in here today working on stuff for the bridge come there too. Yeah And You know that was about was that the watershed? Oh, yeah They videoed me on the Grand Mars bridge So I was from bridge to river We're all we're basically tracing the mad river down and and my I was talking about the The fact that the we have steep narrow valleys here. Yeah, and so I Figured Grand Mars bridges a great place to shoot it. So you have to be right in the bridge and Looking so you can see right Downriver That was um, that bridge isn't a lot better condition with grandma And my grandparents on that uh, there were Mary lives Oh, is that right? Yeah, that's why it's called grandma's. Oh, okay That was grandma because it was grandma's restaurant Yeah, they bought it from But I didn't know that So what's the condition of that bridge? What's a lot better to use to be planks that we're missing like this and you're treating, you know My brother would say You know some of the bridges used to be open and only the wheel base of the car was on the planks No, it's it's still impresses me every time I'm on that bridge. It's That is a neat spot It's down there. Yeah All right, anything else make a mushroom new germ exactly All favorite Okay