 You are listening to the number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. This is my but Merry Christmas everybody. Merry Christmas. In today's episode we answer questions asked by our listeners and viewers just like you. But the way we open the episode was with an introductory portion. So this is when we talk about current events. We like to tell funny stories. We have a great time. We mentioned our sponsors. Today's intro was 39 minutes long. After that we got to the fitness questions. Let me give you a rundown of today's entire episode. We open up by talking about Jake Paul. He's causing more problems that guy. Oh man, this guy. Is he going to get himself a fight with one of the greatest fighters of all time? We'll see what happens. He'll get a fight somewhere. Then Adam and I have an intervention with Justin. We're working with a company called Caldera that makes some of the best natural skincare products you can get anywhere. And Justin's Gator skin could totally be utilized some of this stuff. So it's like snowing in here sometimes. He'll be trying it out and we'll be reporting back with the results. By the way, if you want to check out Caldera, use the Mind Pump Discount. Go to Caldera Lab. That's C-A-L-D-E-R-A-L-A-B.com forward slash Mind Pump. Use the code Mind Pump, get 20% off. Then we talk about Apple refusing to refund a mother $16,000 because her... How could you, Apple? Her six year old daughter or child or son was racking up those in-store purchases. So we'll see what happens. Then we talk about Tom Cruise yelling at his staff for not wearing masks on the set of a movie that led us to talk about Gavin Newsom, our favorite governor of all time and the recall that might happen. I just want to give him a hug. Then we talk about YouTube having Naked Yoga on their platform, but it looks like it's being pulled down. Then I bring up a woman named Miriam Rodriguez, probably one of the most badass moms of all time. You'll love that story. She's an American hero. All right, Mexican, I should say. That's it. Then I compare Magic Spoon cereal to Fruit Loop cereal and the macros. Now Magic Spoon cereal tastes like Fruit Loops. They also have other flavors, by the way. Tastes really good, but it's got no sugar and it's very, very high in protein. In fact, a bowl of Magic Spoon cereal will give you over 40 grams of high quality protein and no sugar. It's crazy. Go check them out. And again, of course, use the Mind Pump discount. Go to magicspoon.com forward slash mind pump and then use the code mind pump for 20% off. And then Justin gives us a little theory on Boba Fett. You're welcome. Where'd he come from? Then we got to the questions. The first one, this person wants to know if you can manipulate a flat bench press to work the upper chest more since they don't have access to an incline bench press. The next question, this person wants to know why their grip fails when they do pull-ups, but they're strong when they do deadlifts, like what the heck's going on. Mystery. The third question, this person wants to know why we're so anti-cardio or not, but we kind of explain ourselves in that part of the episode. And then the final question, this person wants to know what sports community usually under-utilizes resistance training. More sports ball talk. Also, this month we've taken three types of people, which you probably fall into one of these categories, and we've developed workout bundles for each one. Okay, so each workout bundle is about nine months of exercise programming. That means all your workouts are planned out for you. You've got exercise videos teaching you how to do the workouts. It's amazing. It's everything you need to get into amazing shape. But here's the three categories. Okay, see if you fit into one of them. The first one is the new to weightlifting bundle. This is for people who are brand new to resistance training or who haven't done it for a long time. The second bundle is called the body transformation bundle. This is for those of you who are intermediate, so you've been working out for a little while and you're ready to step up your game. And then the third bundle is the new year's extreme intensity bundle. This is an advanced bundle for those you've been working out for a long time. Now, all of them are severely discounted and they all include one year of access to our Mind Pump Private Forum for free. So in the Private Forum, there's 3,000 members. You can go on there. You can ask fitness questions. You can post your lifts, get people to critique your form. You can read funny memes, get in debates with people. Likes and hearts galore. And Adam, Justin and myself are in there daily, so you get to see us as well. Go check these bundles out, see if they work for you. By the way, they all come with a 30-day money-back guarantee, so you can sign up, try it out for a full month and if it doesn't blow your mind, of course you can get a full refund. Go check them out. It's at mapsdecember.com. Again, that's maps, M-A-P-S December.com. Is that still a saying? Do people still say that? Why, why? It's on like Donkey Kong. Just old guys like you. Sometimes they think about that. It's very much old dudes. Yeah, so sometimes I'll say things and I look at my kids like, do they even know what the hell I'm talking about? First of all, they don't know what Donkey Kong is, do they? Donkey Kong's still a video game. Every time I hang out with Christina Rice, it's always like I'm referring stuff to a wall. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, she's no idea what I'm talking about. You know what's a test, so check this out, right? Let's see if Andrew falls for this. That's our camera guy on the back there in there. Andrew, use your hand and pretend like you're on the phone. Okay, so he's passed the cusp. So, young kids, this, go up to a little kid and say, hey, pretend like you're on the phone. Like a karate chop? Yeah, you say pretend like you're on the phone and they'll go like this. Really? Yes, they don't do this. They don't do that? No, this is for those of us who remember the cord, the phone with the cord. Because you had two round holes. One you speak into when you listen to it. Or the flip phones, because flip phones were still cell phones. Kind of, but I did it to my kids. I did it to my daughter. She said, pretend like you're on the phone with your hand. Then when he asked Doug, he goes like this. And then he's got the one thing that's, whoa. No, he does smoke signal. I remember when I said, that one checks the bingo box. I remember when I was training Doug and he's like, hey, I just got a tablet. It's like the one I had when I was a kid. I'm like, let me see. And he was like a stone. He's only good for one use though. Hey, I'll shut up, not murder. Please tell me you guys are following the drama that Jake Paul is doing right now. Oh, well, we talked about it. Yeah, but you saw it after the escalator. After we got off. Oh, where he threw, he was throwing shit at the jujitsu coach. Yeah. Wow. You know what he's doing too? He's connering conner. The ultimate troll. So yeah, first of all, he drives over to homeboys. He's jujitsu coach's school. Yeah, punks the fuck out of him, throws toilet paper at his face, shoots it on camera, takes that picture as his profile pic now, and then it's better. He unfollows everybody except for two people. He's following Conner's wife and that jujitsu guy's girlfriend. Only two people he's following. You know what, dude? He's getting the fight. He's going to get the fight. Here's the thing. I don't feel bad for McGregor. I don't either. He does the same thing. This is McGregor's game. Yeah, this is his game. But McGregor's a better fighter. Paul is better at the social media fucking with. I would love to. That's all he's done the last few years. Correct. I cannot wait to hear what Conner has to say. Eventually he's going to have to come out and say something. Well, did you see? So Dana White is brilliant. Did you hear what Dana White did? No, because he was talking shit about Dana White too. He said Amanda Nunes. He should have Amanda Nunes. Yes, he said I'll let you fight Amanda Nunes and Amanda Nunes says I'm in. Now tell me. I 100% would love that. That's like chess. It's like they're playing chess. Jake said check. And now Dana White came back and said no, check back to you because Jake's, what does he do? Does he say if he fights Amanda Nunes, if he wins, it's a loss. Stupid. But if he gets his ass kicked, it looks stupid. It looks even. Yeah, crazier. You know what I'm saying? Which is what will happen. It's a lot. She'll break him off. She's tiny, though. Isn't she? I mean, I don't know. She's not that small. That's a punch, dude. Let's see where Amanda Nunes is. She's a band-tum or flight. She's not heavy. She's that light? Bro, here's the deal. If they just do boxing only. She knocks dudes out in training camp. Yes, I know that. But if she just does boxing with a big guy, that's not a good thing. If they do MMA, then yeah, I'll give it to her. She'll just hit the ground with him and then he's dead meat. But that's a smart 135 pounds. She's still. That's not that tiny. I mean, it's small, but it's not heavy. And it's boxing purely. Yeah, you're right. I don't know that she'll have a great outing with them. I'll tell you what though, have you ever had a legit female fighter hit pads or hit you? You ever feel that? I've had a Muay Thai girl kick my leg and that fucking killed me. Oh yeah, dude. Yeah, my whole leg was black and blue. Oh, I held pads for one and it was terrifying. Yeah. I was like, oh my God. Yeah, when they get that power down, it's pretty nappy. So what do you think is going to happen? How's this unfold? Jake is obviously going ham. I mean, he is. Here's the thing. It puts the ball in Dana's court because if he's offering McGregor 50 million dollars, McGregor, you know, is looking at Dana and saying, why should I not do this? It's 50 million. What can you do for me? Right. Because he's never made 50 million. He's put the heat. Yeah. He's ever gotten paid 50 million. He never, right? I mean, what do you do if you're him? If I'm McGregor? Yeah. If you're McGregor, what do you do? Do you do it? At this point, if I want to leave a legacy like being a great fighter, I'll say no. But if I'm like, that's money and I don't really don't care, I take it 50 million. Well, because he's still like somewhat in his prime. Like he has more fights left in him. Like how many fights can have to do to hit making 50 million? I know, I know. I know. It's, I don't know. It's, it's crazy. And Matt, think about it. Dana whites his boss. It would be like, do you guys do it? Do you do it, Justin? This is like a fight I would want to do after I retired. You know, and you're just like, whatever, I need money. You know, that's what it feels like. I mean, I think he is right. But I don't think he needs it. Maybe not yet, right? I don't know. I've seen the way he spends his money. Well, proper 12 is crushing, isn't it? Oh yeah, it's doing well. Yeah, it's doing really well, isn't it? Yeah, I think so. And you know what, McGregor, I don't know if it's all an act, but he does come across as somebody that's, you know, he'll get shook and angry and emotional. And Paul is poking every last button, you know, and he's going to keep pushing on him. He's already harassing his jiu-jitsu coach. If he still ignores him, I wouldn't be surprised if he shows up at his house or something. It's crazy that the power that this kid can have because of his social influence. Like, did you see too that I think now UFC, Dana White, McGregor, and Jake Paul, if you Google like any of those four things, all Jake Paul's drama that he's doing right now with him is number, yeah, millions and millions of searches. Now, here's what I was going to end up fighting him. Now, here's what I was thinking, right? Because now the fight game is professional, but there's a lot of guys in the fight game and there's a lot of ways that it's run. Maybe not now, but in the past where it was a bit shady, okay? And it makes me think back to hip hop in the 90s with the shit talk. It went off the legal route and turned into like, you know, shooting at each other. Game stuff, yeah. Yeah, Shug Knight hanging people over a balcony, getting them to sign a contract. At what point does Jake Paul get his ass kicked, you know, behind the scenes? He's just hanging out and the next thing he knows, Nate Diaz shows up and beats the shit out of him. Right at his front door. You know what I'm saying? Well, no, there's a very good chance, something like that happens. Yes. You're talking that much shit and you're doing stuff like that where you're going and taunting a bunch of fighters. Or even an amateur, a top amateur fighter who's like... Well, I mean, this is how it goes down. You don't let your coach or McGregor risk it. The guy in there that's the loyal bro, I'm your, you're the, let's say- They go break his arm. Exactly. I'm the nobody. Nobody knows who I am. I'm a purple belt. I'm not ranked anything, but I'm part of the crew. You know what I'm saying? And I know I could still whoop that kid. You just see him eating out again somewhere. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Go handle that shit. That's what, that's how it's going to go down. It's not going to be, they're not going to- He's going to watch his back every day. Yeah, McGregor's not going to go fuck with the guy. It's going to be somebody who's a grunt who is all about the loyalty of the crew. That's the part, that's where I see this maybe going because it's hard to turn down 50 million and if he keeps getting in your face, the fans are going to want to see it at some point. Mainly just to see you kick his ass, but he's kind of disrespecting the sport of boxing and MMA and whatever. He needs to be careful because he keeps pushing it. Like I said, it reminds me of the 90s when the shit talk got so, it was selling records, but then it got so bad that people started shooting each other and shit started happening. I just think that- Yes, because everybody around them, it's not a, it's like they're in cahoots, but it's like everybody else was like, oh, this is going down. Exactly. And then they get all heated. Exactly. 50 million though, man. I'm doing it. I know. You're doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I mean, I would fight Mike Tyson and his prime for 50 million. Totally. What? Oh, no, no, no. He's out of it. That could be permanent brain damage. That could be permanent brain damage. Hold on a second. You just, I'd go out there and he'd throw a punch and fall down. Just ghost it. Yeah. Oh. That's hitting the shoulder. You'd have to do that. The only way you would do that. There's no way you're actually trying to fight it. Punches you right on the canvas. Yeah. Like as you're like laying down, boom, boom, boom. Exactly. Terrifying. Oh my God. Terrifying human beings. But definitely if you're a McGregger, you're not getting hurt, right? But I mean, some people would think that he has nothing to gain from it except for 50 million dollars, which is a lot. That's more than, again, more than he's ever made, which is insane. So anyway, Adam, I think this is a good time since we're on air now to do the intervention. Oh, we went to the intervention right now? Yeah, see the Justin intervention. Oh, wow. Dude, what? Why do you guys know he's ganging up on me? Oh, it's been a few years since our last intervention. Listen, Linda, listen. We love you. This one is actually different, right? So we had a cheese intervention already once. This is a new intervention. That was the second one. Jesus. So yesterday, I was on the phone with Caldera, and we signed for all of 2021 now. And part of the peace. So they like us and our people like that. Oh, that's excellent. Yeah, we're doing well. Yeah, they love it. Everything's all great. One request is they think they can change your life and your dry, cracky skin. And they said could you... Is this a challenge? They're like, we'll sign for the year, but can you convince Justin to start using and trying our product? We believe that as good looking as he is already, we can make him better looking. And remember, Adam and I, at first, were opposed to this. We're like, listen, he's already handsome. You've got to keep him down. Fuck, we don't want to get him ahead of us. So now you have to use their stuff to show everybody what's happening. You know what I'm afraid is going to happen? I'm afraid he's going to pour some of it on his hand. Let's use all of it. It's going to disappear. It's going to absorb it. It just absorb it. Have you guys seen my hands? Like, I've just been doing all this stupid work. Do you guys have this in gallons by chance? Can I shower it with it? Those little bottles, they just... Are they always supposed to last three days? No, it's going to get expensive, you guys. You really want to do this. What if he actually has olive skin? We don't even know. He just rubs it on. He's like, dark like me. Just come in and I'm just, oh, sheen and... Swarty. Yeah. I really do though. I want you to try it a little bit. Just call me Rico Swabby. Do you guys remember that guy? Yeah. He looked at my... What was his name? Oh yeah, Gerardo Gerardo. Yeah. I forgot who he was when you guys brought him up last time and then when you brought him up. Bro, he wore tight jeans, no shirt, right? And keboboots. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like he had a little fanny pack too. And he was just, yeah. Yeah, just shake it. Just his hips. He's all hips. Do you guys remember that just made me think of this guy? Do you guys remember the wrestler ravishing Rick Root? Of course. Yeah, dude. He was awesome. I loved him. Did you? Of course you did. That's, you thought you were him. He's hilarious. Yeah. I thought you were him. He used to do like the hair flip and then he'd look at himself in the mirror and stuff like that. Did you remember? That's totally Adam. Yeah. I love it. Do you remember what he would do? He would like call out a woman from the audience and he'd like make out with it. Look at, that's Adam. If Adam was a wrestler. He puts his hands on his head and just, ah. Yeah. Didn't he like, like when he would beat a guy, he would do like a, he'd like. He'd cut their hair. No, no. That's Brutus the barber beef cake. Oh, you're right. You're right. That was like more of a fan. What kind of a fan are you? You're wrestling history. It's been a long time. It's questionable. You got six years. Still be fucking watching this stuff. I don't watch this anymore. No, ravishing Rick Root when he'd beat a guy, when they were knocked out, he'd go up to him and he'd like grind on him. Yeah. He would do the, you know, he would do the little dance over him. Oh, yeah. He would dance over him with a little. It was him. Brutus the barber beef cake would cut their hair and then there was the million dollar man, Ted DiBiasi, that guy. Remember that? Remember the million dollar man? Yeah. Yeah. He was awesome. There was a cocoa beware. Always wore the suit with all the money sign all over it. That's right. Showed up at a limo, always to the junkyard dog. Junkyard dog. Dude, he was the man. Oh my God. British Bulldog was the best. Listen to you guys. Hey, I got an article yesterday I read. Did you guys see the news on Apple? Roundy Piper. Apple that is contesting the $16,000 suit that this lady's trying to put on him? What? So check this out. $16,000 for Apple. I know. I know. You guys fart more money. Well, listen. So that's what's interesting, right? So the fact that they're just, right, that's no big deal to them. But I think it's a principal thing. So this kid, five or six years old, I remember five or six years old, racked up $16,000 on in-app purchases on his mom's iPad. Oh. Whoa. 16 playing games with all the in-app purchasing. And Apple's not going to refund it? No. In what? Time span? Well, I think it's he's six years old. Doesn't matter. What do you mean it doesn't matter? Of course it matters. It's supposed to be parental. Yeah, bro. Blocks on the wall. Yeah, but okay. But obviously the mom's not buying him $16,000 worth of, come on. Oh, see, I'm on Apple's side on this one. For a six-year-old? Yeah. That's going to look so bad for them. This is, it's not worth $16,000. They're going to look bad. You think so? Yep. Absolutely. So I think you, I say, I think if you refund this, you open a can of worms. You refund. Everybody's going to say it was my kid. Absolutely. Because it'll refer to it. Absolutely. That's how I get my Amazon. That's why you, that's why you can't. I didn't order Die Hard. Blocks is this. I mean, seriously though, you, you, you accept that, then how are you going to decide? See, there it is right there. $16,000. How old was he? Childs. Six-year-old. Six-year-old. $16,000. I mean, okay. On one day, so I read the whole, I read the whole article, right? So the in-app purchases. What the hell was he buying? They range between $1.99 up to as high as $99 in one day he racked up $2,100 was the most. So that means this was over the course of like a month or two. Now obviously the kid, the parent is like. She's a, she's a, she's a, she works from home, a mother that works from home and her kid had. Yeah, but you can turn off that feature. I know you can. It's, I mean, it's all, you can, there's like. This looks so bad on Apple. They're going to, they're going to lose more. This is going to make them look really, they're going to end up settling, I guarantee it. Settling, who settles? They don't settle for $16,000. You said they just, they either pay it off or they don't. I don't think they're going to. I think you have to, I think you have to stand your ground. It's like a principle. You don't think, you think it's, you think it's more damaging for their name? It's a six year old kid. A lot of parents right now are stressed out. Kids are at home because we're not going to school. She's going to play that card. Oh, I gave it to my kid. I'm so busy. God forbid she's a single mom. Apple's going to look really bad. They're going to look bad, but I understand it being a principal, you know, too. On their end of the day. I mean, this would have been, it is going to make them look bad. Regardless, this is bad for them. Yeah, this would have, this would have been a beating in my household. I'll tell you that much right now. Yeah. No, this is not. I mean, this is definitely the parents' responsibility to make sure they can't do it. What the hell's happening? What are you doing over there, Doug? What's going on? The Doug's watching his own show. I love it when shit goes wrong and Doug's like, The problem is you open up a web page and all of a sudden it starts playing videos that I haven't requested. Commercials and stuff. Yeah, well, yeah. I didn't ask for this. Soccer moms get sweaty? That was a weird video. What are you been Googling? Yeah, what's going on over there? You Googler over there. So, but see, here's the deal. $16,000 of purchases all by a kid buying random stuff. I mean, come on. So, here's what I think, okay. One, how many hours did you have to leave this kid alone playing video games stuck to his iPad? Of course. One, okay. That's big. And then two, there's many like, there's many other ways that when you purchase, you get an email for it. They have to have a password in order to do it. So, either one. Sure, she got notified on her phone. There's notifications that come in. So, this had to have been, she had been so disconnected. And this happened over the course of like a month. You know what though? It's not like one big purchase. Like that'd be different, right? If a kid got online and they bought $10,000. So, you don't pay attention to any of your finances. Right. Yeah, right. $10,000 worth of Apple products and use the mom's credit card. I bet you they refund it. But it's like, this was over a month of consistently. But here's the deal. You try to make that case. You're Apple, right? One of the richest companies in the world. You try to shame a mom and make the case that she's a bad mom. Well, again, it's going to make them look bad. Terrible. You're right. Terrible. But it is like, come on. Where's the personal responsibility? Of course. We've lost that in general. It's like, this is the whole thing with the, what was that case with McDonald's in the hot coffee? That was stupid. Yeah. She won. She won. Yeah, but that's the thing. It's like, I don't know. There's got to be some level of like, okay, what happened to you? Like how much of that was your fault? You're right. That's not, you're being logical. Now here's the problem. If you're a big company, what you're thinking is, how is this going to make us look? Are we going to lose more money from standing our ground? Well, that's probably why it made news, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If they would have just, I mean, you're, to your point, you know, come on, $16,000 is not even a speeding ticket for them. You know what I'm saying? Like that's like, it's nothing. Chump change. Exactly. So like, they easily could have just thrown it her way, not told anybody about it. So hey, no problem. Here you go. Yeah, Merry Christmas. Exactly. Don't let this happen again. We're sorry. But then what I want to do is, if I was the CEO, if I was the CEO and I saw this news, I would come out and I'd be like, this is terrible. I can't believe that people handled this with you. I really apologize. I'm not only going to refund you the $16,000, but we're going to give you a gift card for, or whatever. Now what I want. And make faith, you know what I mean? Save face. Dude, publicly, yeah. What I wonder is if this is something that happens all the time, this just happens to be egregious and it's a single mother who's home with her kid and so it made news. Maybe. So what if like Apple turns down $1,000, $5,000, $3,400 every single day, hundreds of these, because people all come in saying, oh, my kid bought this, oh, my kid bought that. And they're like, no, no, no, no. And then the first one that's this big of a dollar amount and because maybe she's a single mom type of deal, it's like, oh, this is big news. What Apple's the devil? Well, you know, I've gotten refunded from Amazon from ordering a movie that I don't like. Have you guys done that before? No. I've ordered a movie, didn't like it. I sent them a message and they refunded me. Oh, wow. Great customer service. Really? You did that? I did. Wow. I did. I didn't even know that works. Yeah. Well, I did it once. I give Katrina a hard time for always like trying to. I never even thought of that. Trying to, like, she calls all the companies all the time and threatens we're going to switch services. You know, we get a discount all the time. Oh, yeah. That's the move. Yeah. We get pissed off. Yeah. She's like, you know what? I'm going to tell somebody else. Oh, wait. Let's see what we can do. Hey, here's a secret to getting through, by the way. If you ever want to get through to a real person, tell them you want to cancel. Yeah. So if you need customers certain, I know I'm trying to cancel right now. Next thing you know, hi, how can I help you? Yeah. Yeah. So I was trying to upgrade. I was doing all this things and I realized I was getting totally. My friend got this. Dreamed. Hey, speaking of stuff like this, that video. Did you guys see that video with Tom Cruise blasting this movie? Oh my goodness. I mean, I heard the audio. Yeah. It was kind of funny. I mean, it was just him ranting because apparently some of his crew came without masks to set. It's not that big of a deal. So I was expecting to hear him say some crazy shit. He said it. What he said was logical. And he was just yelling. He was just yelling. Are we getting that sensitive? Or if your boss yells? He'll yell anymore? Yeah. I mean, do you know what it was like? Well, I think it's Tom. It's getting Tom, hearing Tom Cruise like, I mean, he was going off. He definitely was going off for a solid like, what? It reminded me a little bit of, was it Christian Bale? Remember when he had that freak out that they caught on camera and he was just like yelling at everybody? But it was really like vicious. It was crazy. No. Yeah. I should, you should like that one up too. But like, like, like Tom Cruise is, I mean, it wasn't, it wasn't that crazy. It was just like him like being pissed off because like he wanted to make sure everybody could keep coming back to work. Yeah. And he really are risking the movie. I get all that. I think it's ironic and funny that they're, they're getting to make movies. Totally. Of course. Come on. They're connected, dude. That is so hilarious to me that they are an essential business. They're not. That's all, that's all our friend Newsom's doing. That's exactly what it is. There was, in fact, there was one woman who had it close. Like as if we don't have a, like we have more movies, okay? Because I mean, they just keep piling up, piling up. They keep making them, making them, make them. Yeah. That you, you could never get through the, a fraction of all of them if you watch TV all day long. Like we need movies. Don't try to use logic. Look, here's the deal. I'm not saying that movie should stop being made because yes, there's people that support themselves. I want new movies. What I, what I'm saying is like, there was one woman, she had to close her salon, or I mean, it might have been a restaurant or salon after she spent money on developing an outdoor area, had to shut it all down, goes to, goes the next day to her office, which is her location after she shut it down and sees tents set up in the parking lot with hundreds of chairs for movie crews because they got an exception to be able to run, do their thing. Yeah. And that's just, it's just friends, friends in high places. In fact, there's a recall going around with Newsom that's gaining steam. Did you guys see this? I did. So here's the other thing too. Please let this happen. There's a Facebook page, which I may or may not be a part of, actually I'm not a part of it, but I've just done a little bit of signing. But anyways, it's all about recalling Newsom and it's everybody on there. There's four million people, right? You need 1.5 million people to pass a recall. And this has been this way for a long time. And for some reason, they can't find enough people to sign this recalling petition, but there's four million people apparently interested in it. Well, it's actually a process. Have you tried, have you signed? You have to go sign in person. Five times. Yeah, do the whole thing. Last time I was at Bass Shop, yeah, sign too. Yeah, you got to go and you got to sign in person. That's what it is. You can't do it any other way. So. Yeah, no, but all of them said they did. Yeah, oh, did they? Yeah. Oh, that's cool. Oh, how funny is that that there's like, yeah, but you'd know that's not true. Four million people didn't all go sign. It's probably not true, but let's just take, you know, like a small fraction of that still. There's a lot of momentum. That makes me lose faith in humanity, right? That we talk a big talk, and we're so angry about something, and we bitch, bitch, bitch, but then it, oh, we have to go down to the place and sign. Yeah, I don't care that much. Yeah, I don't care that much. No, that totally happens. I'm just going to stay online. Can I door dash the sign? The signature please. I'm just going to stay home and bitch about it. That's what I'm going to do. Yeah, rawr. Oh my God. Speaking of funny stuff, so you guys know how YouTube has a strict, like, no nudity policy, right? Like, you can't, you can't see nipples on there. No nudity. Unless you're watching yoga. Dude. Do you want to expose it? What the hell? Yeah. Okay, so this is already going away, because I did a little research yesterday. Is it really? Yeah, I was like, is this really a thing? Wait, wait, what? That's why you're the bastard. I like to use the word research. Exactly, it's research. It's research, you know, and quality control. He was researching hard. Yeah, I was trying to get contributed to yoga yesterday. I was like, is this real? I'm thinking about starting it up. So tell me about what happened. So okay, so let me go first, and I want to hear your research. Apparently, naked yoga is allowed on YouTube. And this isn't, like, this is not really yoga. I mean, it's yoga. I mean, I feel like they're really good. The camera angles are like, this is downward dog. I mean, they're doing the poses. Yeah, but it's... She looks certified to me. Yogas become porn nowadays, even on Instagram. Have you seen the yoga pages? Come on now. Yeah, dude. It's ridiculous. They're gonna come out with new moves I've never seen. So what's the deal? They're taking it away? Yeah, so, yeah, I was just searching the term naked yoga. And like any American, you know, would be interested in that. And I was waiting because you guys brought it up, and I couldn't see anything other than, and there was all these ones with like, it was like a bait and switch where they had like an image of, you know, this girl doing some yoga pose, but then it was they're trying to sell you cars. And I'm like, no, like what's happening? Yeah, it wasn't, it's not that exciting. You know, that remind, I don't know if you guys have been watching our, you know, young friend, Connor Murphy, right? So I've been getting all these messages in the last like month about him. Like everyone's just like, what happened to Connor's next? He's been on our show a long time ago. And we know him and every once in a while, I'll text him and see how he's doing. And I messaged him. Hey, I was doing, man, oh, everything's great. And then after that, I started like paying attention. Like I wasn't watching any of his stuff. I'm just, I mean, he's like younger generation, not really into the things that they're into. But I started watching his Instagram on his YouTube. He's become like a spiritual. Oh, dude. But it's, it's, it's fake, dude. It's a character. You think he's totally trolling? Yes. Come on, bro, a hundred percent. Yeah. He told, and he's doing it outlandishly. See how far he can get away with it. It's totally baloney. It'd be great if he became like this guru, because he just made up a whole like yoga. Yeah. What was he, what a girl? Prasamante, I don't know what it was. Prasamante or some Prasamante. Prasamante. So yeah. He made up a yoga term. Yeah. A girl sitting on his lap and they're looking at each other and they like breathe together. Like do like move around. It's basically dry humping while you look at someone. It's like, what are you doing? Dude, the spiritual space. I think it's brilliant actually. That spiritual space is becoming so baloney. It's interesting, right? We've seen a couple of people that we know that have like pivoted into this all of a sudden like spiritual reader and medium and all that stuff like that. And there's a lot, there's a lot. I think he's really smart, dude. I, you know, like that's a whole segment that needs to be, you know, exposed. And also he's doing it in a funny way where it's like, I mean. I'm with Justin. I think it's smart too. I think it's very smart. Oh, I think he's going to reveal at some point. Oh, I don't think he is. Or it's going to become a character. People like to watch. That's what I think. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. So back to the naked yoga. What's the deal? They're taking it away? Yeah. Well, it's not, you can only find, so like one video, I think it was what the, like when we were looking at it, because you know, you guys were in on this too in the beginning. You just have to like. Yeah, I got to throw you guys. You exposed me to. I couldn't find anything in the same videos. Sal was the one I introduced it to, right? I think maybe, I think maybe what happened was this might have been a concerted effort from maybe it was like a porn company or something. And then they just uploaded it all at once. And then maybe YouTube's algorithms finally caught up to it. That's my theory. No, no, no. There was an article. So this is how. Wait, it doesn't pop up anymore? This is how we originally heard about it. This is how we originally heard about it. There was an article about how it's allowed because there's some like side role or whatever. Because it's yoga, they allow it even though it's naked. Yeah, but you can see everything. It's not like they're just doing poses and being conservative about it. No, no. Oh, you're right. Like the one I was watching yesterday looks like it's gone. That's lame. Hearing gone. They probably got a lot of complaints. Yeah. What about the one that I sent over to the group thread is that did you guys look that one back? I didn't even see that. I have no idea. What are you talking about? We don't do stuff like that. I'm still there. No, it's gone. You're right. I told you. I bet you a lot of people complained. Yeah. That's what I mean. That's what I'm saying. Oh, I think it was like they just, they just tried to do it all fast. This video has been removed for violating YouTube's policy of nudity and sexual content. Yeah. Wow. Then they snuck it in real fast. They allowed it for a second, and then it looks like they probably got enough complaints where they took it off. Because the video. How random is that that we just kind of found it? It seems like one of you guys is probably searching that every day and just got lucky. So dumb. No, somebody. Thanks, Sal. No, there was an article. Doug, Doug, do this. Why are you getting so defensive right now, guy? You guys trying to get me in trouble. See that? Doug, Google. So defensive right now. Google naked yoga, and then look up the new, and then click on news, and read the news, or naked yoga YouTube, and look at news. And you guys will see. So they must have gotten a lot of complaints. Yeah, I'm sure. About this whole deal. Yeah. Well, that's a bummer. Interesting. Well, I mean, I know. It was cool for a second. Adam was like, well, I'll do some naked weight training videos. Finally, yoga's interesting. Yeah, crushes are. See, people are uploading naked yoga videos. Yeah, I guess it must have gotten enough people to complain. Yeah, I mean, literally the one I sent yesterday to the group thread. You can't see no more. Wow. Doug, click on images real quick. I'm just kidding. Memories. Anyway, dude, you want to talk about crazy stories. Are you guys familiar with a woman by the name of Miriam Rodriguez? That sounds a little familiar, but I don't know. I don't know. Tell us. Probably have a cousin named her. So. Damn, that's like two racist things in like one month. You're going to come back. Maybe you're about to move it. Oh, no. It's something like that. Thanks, Justin. Yeah, no problem. I got you. So this is a crazy story that I read the other day. I can't believe I didn't hear about it before. So this woman's 20-year-old daughter was kidnapped by drug cartels. They kidnapped her daughter. They tried to ransom her and ended up murdering her daughter. So this woman in her 60s. What? Okay, this is a true story. This woman in her 60s hunted down 10 members of this cartel. Shut up. One by one. And she would- Dude, they're going to make a movie out of it. Oh, 100% that'll be a movie. Look her up. That's her right there. She stalked them, the killers, across Mexico one by one. Oh, it gives me chills, dude. No way. No way. She got them? Yeah, so hold on. So she would put on disguises. She would talk to their grandparents because she's an older woman and the grandparents of these drug, you know, these cartel members didn't know any better and would give them clues. And one by one, she got them arrested is what she would do. She would hunt them down, get them all arrested. Finally, she finds one of the last guys she finds. She's approaching him because she heard, I don't know how she found out that this guy was selling things on the street. She finds him. He sees her. He runs. She tackles him, holds a gun to his throat and holds her there so that he gets arrested. Finally, the cartel caught up to her and killed her. And so now in the town that she's from, they've built a monument about her and it's totally spurring this like movement of the people against the cartels. Like she's become this martyr. This hero. A hero for, you know, to fight against these cartels. Wow. Awesome story. How crazy is that? That is way crazy. She's like 60-something years old and she hunted down 10 of them. 10 and got them, you know, fearless. That's a bad ass. I love that. 100% a movie. 100% a movie after that. Such a crazy movie. Where did you cut, where did you read that? I don't remember where I read it. I don't remember. I think it was in one of the recent. This is recent, yeah? I want to say it's recent. That article Doug's going through right now, I thought I said one day ago. Is it really? I thought it said that. Let's see. That said Doug, it looked like it was really recent. Yeah. When is it Doug? 13th. Yeah, so it's a new thing. Yeah, wow. So they just got up to her and they killed, they just caught up to her. So now they're going to build like a monument to her and it's invoking this movement against the cartels. You know, sometimes all you need is that example to stir up enough popular support. Yeah, I feel that. This happened in Sicily in the 80s. In the 80s, there was a judge that really aggressively went after the mafia. I've told this story before. And back in the 80s, the Sicilian kind of relationship with the mafia, especially back then, was keep it quiet or whatever, or don't go after them, we're afraid. Well, anyway, this judge was jailing them left and right, had all this protection. And the way that they got to this judge, the way that they finally got to kill, because he had so many armed guards and he would switch cars and whatever, the way that they got to him is as he was in an armed car with guards along with traffic, they blew up an entire bridge that he was on, killed him, killed his family, killed a bunch of innocent people. Well, that caused so much anger in Sicily that there was this huge movement against the mafia. And it was just this huge, they jailed so many of them. So I feel like this right here, this this might cause a movement, you know. Wow, that's really, yeah, that's an amazing story. Yeah, yeah, really, really crazy. Anyway, we're supposed to bring up Magic Spoon, but I wanted to do something a little interesting, Adam. I know you love macros and stuff like that. I do. Yeah, you being the ex-body. And I also love Magic Spoon. Madams, macros. Yes, so I pulled up some comparisons. So you're gonna trip off this, right? So what would you consider to be like a normal, I'm gonna use like normal servings of cereal, not what they say on the boxes. A lot of times it'll be like, you know, three quarters of a cup. Yeah, no, so I actually just did this. I think I told you guys, when I measured out my granola, right? And I measured two cups of granola out and two cups didn't even fill up my little bowl halfway. Would you say three cups is probably an average size bowl? I would say three is even on the low end a little bit. I would say between three and four is what a normal kind of, like what most the average American pours for a bowl of cereal. Okay, so three, I would agree, right? Three cups seems like a pretty normal bowl of cereal. So fruit loops, let's compare fruit loops to Magic Spoon's fruit, you know, base cereal or whatever, so comparison in terms of flavor. Fruity, right. So three cups of fruit loops, this is not including the milk, 75 grams of carbs, 36 grams of sugar. That's three tablespoons of sugar in normal bowl of fruit loops. Three grams of protein, so like no protein at all. Yes, barely any. Magic Spoon, three cups, 40 grams of carbs, so a little bit more than half or almost half. Yeah. Zero grams of sugar, not a single gram of sugar, 44 grams of protein. Yeah. 44 grams of protein, one bowl. Zero sugar, 40 grams of protein, that's a pretty big deal. Yeah, and if you put milk in there, if you're on a bulk, you put whole milk, you've got yourself a pretty damn good meal. Do you guys see they made their way finally into like the bodybuilding community, like the Page Hathaways? It was about time. They're all hyping, talking about them. We knew they'd adopted it at some point. I know, I know, Magic Spoon has just now made their way over to that community, that community is like blowing it up like crazy. I knew that was going to be like really skyrocketing, I don't know how it didn't do that already, I'm surprised it took this long. Well, I don't think the owners of the company, I don't think that was their original direction, was they, I don't think they were thinking that, like unless you're in the space and you really get like the whole macro thing and like how bodybuilders are, our competitors with their diet, and finding something like this that could fit in their macros, oh my god, like, but if you're not in it, they were trying to make a healthier cereal, that's it, for the general population. It was really designed for GP. It was like, what are kids eating right now? Can we make a better, healthier version for the masses? Not realizing that the market, who I think would really blow it up, and we always thought this was bodybuilding, so it's there now. Another way to use it too is as a dry snack when, and I don't encourage- This is how Katrina's mom eats it. Oh really, I don't encourage people, I don't encourage snacking in front of the TV, but we do it anyway, right? Movies on, you want to eat something in front of the TV. Well, 99% of any snack you eat in front of the TV is a carbohydrate-based snack. You're not going to get protein out of anything. You could eat jerky in front of the TV, which I do, but I know a lot of people like the crunch and kind of sweetness or whatever. Magic spoon cereal, you just have a bowl of it, and it's protein. Katrina's mom doesn't even use milk, she just eats it dry. Exactly, she loves it. And she likes it. My kids are like, they'll eat it dry. I'm like, what? Justin, I want to ask you, you were itching to tell us about some new Star Wars theory. Yeah, I was a little bit, and I know, I went off on another one of those episodes where I just kind of went down the rabbit hole for Star Wars. So hopefully I don't lose everybody here, but basically this is all about Boba Fett because he got introduced into the series and we're kind of wondering what happened to him because he was basically swallowed by this monster. Like last time we saw him, he fell into the pit and he's supposed to be digested for like a thousand years. I forget what the name of the monster is, but anyway, the theory is that basically the very beginning of season two, we see this other type of like dragon sand worm that's like going through the town and like eating all this stuff, right? And then, but he now resides in the Saurak, I think is the name of the monster, but like there's an emptied out cave where it lives now. And so that he basically lives where that monster, that was the pit monster used to live. And so the theory is that basically that dragon, like eight that, you know, the pit monster, he ate him and cause he had, he spit out this acid and everything. And so basically we like digested him and then you saw that Mando purposely got swallowed by, you know, the sand worm and then basically blew his way out, but he was unaffected because of his best car armor. So basically, you know, they're the kind of correlating that between Boba Fett was able to basically blow himself up and like he was fine because like, you know, that was what I told you, right? You did. I said that. I was like, when they, I thought it was interesting that they showed us that scene. And I felt like this was before he got introduced to the show that we saw this whole scene where he goes into the belly, blows it up and comes out. And then all of a sudden we get introduced to Boba Fett. It's like, oh, I bet you they did that to show you it's possible to that. That's why he's still alive. So that's the theory. And I was like, God's a great theory. And also I was watching like, just to fall asleep, I was watching A New Hope, like the very first Star Wars movie. And you're so funny. Did you rewatch these things? I watched them all the time, dude. Just to fall asleep. Just fall asleep. Yeah, it's, I don't know. It's comforting. Wonderful slumberland. I use it for that. You guys don't have a movie like that? With your Star Wars blankie? Yeah. It's like my little Star Wars blankie. Life Saber pacifier. Yeah. So basically the scene where Luke is out trying to find R2D2 and he gets attacked by one of the Tuscan Raiders and gets hit and knocked out with one of them, that one weapon that they used, Boba Fett had it. That's where it came from. Yes, it was a Tuscan Raider. And so now it's like, well, I guess we're finding out more about the Tuscan Raiders and how they actually are more inviting and nicer than they've portrayed them to be. We just, yeah, everybody's just been assholes to them, I guess. But so like he has their weapons. I was like, I knew that's where I recognized them. So you think he blew up the sand monster, knocked himself out, Tuscan Raiders found him. Tuscan Raiders found him. Raised him. The armor, meanwhile, gets... Well, it raised him, but yeah. You know what I mean? I guess, right. Yeah. The armor gets taken because he's blown up, he's whatever. Yes. They bring him back to life. He learns the ways of the Tuscan Raiders and how to use the staff. Or the Jawas came by and took his armor and then, you know, then that's where it ended up somewhere else. Boom. Yeah. There you go. Wow. Boom. It's solved. First question is from Harman the Hinger. Any tips or ways to manipulate a flat bench press to make it like an incline bench press? Oh yeah. Good question. So in other words, you want to hit the upper chest effectively. You don't have access to an incline bench. All you have is a flat bench. What can you do? There's an old school bench press variation exercise that you don't see too many people do at all nowadays. And I understand why. It's you want to make sure that you're safe when you do it. But it does a pretty damn good job of hitting the upper chest. And that is bench press to the neck. I don't know if you've ever seen these before. But you bring the barbell way up high to the collar bone or slightly above the collar bone on a flat bench. Elbows really, really flared out. And then you squeeze the upper chest at the top. It's a great exercise for the upper chest. You need to have that. Need to have good shoulder mobility. Of course. And if you want to hit your neck. That's a little sketchy. I feel like you're right towards your neck. Yeah. I feel like I have a better one than that. You get a stability ball that costs 20 bucks on Amazon and shipped to your house the next day. And you do a bench. But what you do is just drop your hips. So instead of creating a bridge and doing a normal press, you let the hips drop down and now it's an incline press. That's why I love the stability ball. In fact, we used to do incline press on that all the time. That was like one of my favorite ways to do it. Because you can adjust the incline by dropping your hips higher or lower. That's true. Now another thing you can do that I used to do when I was a kid was I would take the flat bench and I would put the back up on some blocks. So I'd make my own incline. So I'd have two by fours that were stable. I'd set it up and now I could do an incline press. You could also do elevated push ups with your feet elevated. That's going to hit the upper chest quite effectively as well. Next question is from Jamil A144. Why does my grip struggle on pull ups but not on deadlifts? That's an interesting question. I don't know. Do you guys feel when you guys do pull ups, your grip feels stronger or weaker than when it would do deadlifts? Yeah. I don't know if it's, I don't know if I've heard this before. This has been something that somebody I know was very good at deadlifting but had a hard time with the actual grip and had a harder time with pull ups than they did deadlifts. To me it was crazy because they were at least doing 450 pulling off the ground but then had a hard time holding on in a vertical position. I was actually curious to hear your guys' answers on this. It's a difference in grip from the bar. What kind of techniques they're using with that? I mean it's really not that much different though as far as how you grip and you know, God that's weird to me, right? Well I would imagine, so think of the position, right? If you have tight, if you're tight in the upper body especially with shoulder mobility and you're in this kind of stretched overhead position where you're hanging, that might compromise your grip, right? Because not only you're trying to grip but you're so tight and you're keeping everything tense, you might lose some strength. I think that's a good guess. Yeah, so it doesn't make sense to me like if you were, if you're able to deadlift significantly more than your body weight, right? So if you weigh 200 pounds and you're deadlifting 400, it would be weird to your grip to go out unless something like what you just said, you have really tight lats, tight shoulders and then in that stretched position you're completely stretched out so you're weaker. Well this is where I would think, you know, having that lockout position and doing like an overhead carry would really start help, you know, building up strength and stability in that position to then feel more comfortable and stable, maybe, maybe it's a lack of stability. Also I'll say this, this does highlight something that is true and it's also very interesting and that is how specific strength can be. You can do two movements that look very similar and be excellent in one and not so good in the other one. I'll give you an example, right? If you do like a bench press with a barbell versus a dumbbell flat press, they both look almost identical. They really do. It's a very similar movement. You're on a flat bench, you're pressing up, but I've known people who could bench press tremendous amounts of weight with a barbell and handle very, they can't go very heavy at all with dumbbells. And then I've seen vice versa. I've seen people with dumbbells be able to handle a lot of weight and then when they grab the barbell it doesn't make any sense in terms of how much more they can or they can't lift. So strength can be very, very specific. A lot of strength isn't just the muscle, right? So the muscle's involved, it's contracting, it's holding, it's lifting. But a lot of strength has to do with technique and skill. There's a lot of skill involved with lifting. For example, if you practice squats all the time and you get really, really good at squats and then let's say you lose access to a barbell squat, but you can do all these other leg exercises. You don't lose any size in your quads and your hamstrings and your glutes. On an individual basis, the muscles remain just as strong. When you finally, after a few months, go back under a barbell, you'll probably still be weaker with your squats because you haven't practiced the skill. So there's that specificity that is pretty interesting. You just sound familiar with that position. Totally. So if you want to get a stronger grip in the pull-up position, the best thing you could do is practice your grip in the pull-up position, not in any other position. Next question is from Yoga Farm Girl. Why the anti-cardio vibes? Running brings me joy. We haven't addressed this. Why? And then the rest of this says you guys should totally interview Charlie Rocket, who's been trying to get on our show for like three years. I don't know who that is. Who's that? It's the guy who lost 100 pounds running all over the place. You've seen him before. Blonde guy, he's been on a bunch of other podcasts. He reached out to us a couple of years ago. Okay. And I'll address the first one first. I think why it comes off as we are anti-cardio is because we know who the general population and the average client that we trained and who we're talking to. And one of the greatest challenges that we had as trainers was most people that think about losing weight, think about cardio and running first. And we know that that is not the best approach at all, at all. But are there some people that we would train or there's people that we know that love to run and they get joy from it and it's meditation for them? I would never rob somebody of that. And I would never be anti-cardio or anti-running for that person. I think that if going out for a beautiful run gives you joy and helps you burn some calories and gives you energy and it's like your meditation, like I would never take that away from you. But what we want to do is educate the masses on cardio is one of the worst ways for you to try and lose fat. And that's where this gets all confusing for people is they hear us say that stuff and then they're like, oh, I've had all or like you use someone like Charlie Rocket. Okay, you give me an example of somebody who ran their 100 pounds off. Okay, well, I can give you an example of somebody who jumped rope to 100 pounds off or, you know, did push-ups for 100 pounds off or did nothing and got 100 pounds off. Like a single story about somebody who did something to lose 100 pounds is not what we think helps. Jared from Subway. Yeah, yeah, eat Subway sandwich and lose weight. Like there's examples of people that have done lots of tremendous great things to get themselves to lose weight. We always try and think of who is the majority of the clientele that we trained and what were some of the biggest hurdles and challenges that they had. And one of those is manually trying to burn fat, is trying to run the calories off. And what happens is most people that come in to hire a personal trainer or most people that tune in to Mind Pump that are getting back into fitness, where they're at with their metabolism, running is one of the worst things that they can do to start off. And that's really hard for our small percentage of people that listen to us that love to run. But if you've been listening long enough to us, you know that we've told you like, listen, if you like to run, I'm not telling you not to run. Right. Well, and I'll let Sal get into the hole, like building your metabolism and all the benefits of building muscle and stuff. But really, like I'm concerned about the repetitive stress. And that's just something that you inevitably, you're doing the same thing for long periods of time. And, you know, the intensity might come up a bit, but your body is just going to start to break down. And you need to change it up. And if you're not switching up, you know, what type of activity you do and what type of stimulation you're getting for your muscles, you know, there's a window to that. And so I think that we're just always trying to point out that you really need to lift weights. That's something that needs, it benefits your running, it benefits, look at your running as an activity that you really love and enjoy. Or maybe you compete with it or whatever. That's totally fine. But that's not like, that's not the only health practice. Like you need to incorporate these other methods to be able to keep the longevity of things you enjoy. Yeah, cardiovascular activity is great for health. Terrible way to burn, to lose weight, that's all. So most people, which is what most people want. Right, right. But it's fine. It's fine for health. It's got great health benefits. But if you're like the average person and you don't have time to exercise every day and your goal is to lose body fat and you like food and you live in a modern society with lots of food around you, the best strategy is to speed up your metabolism and lift weights because you don't need to do that every day to elicit that adaptation. Cardiovascular activity needs to often be done every single day to really reap any of the calorie-burning benefits. But even then, if you do that for long enough, your body starts to adapt and it doesn't really give you that benefit. Here's the other side of it. Justin brought up the stress on the body. Here's the truth. The human body evolved to run. That is true. We're actually running machines, okay? But don't get too excited. It's a skill that we've all forgotten, okay? So if you've been running since you were a child and you have not stopped, you probably run wonderfully and will never get injured. If you're like most people, you stop running around sixth grade and then you decide when you're 30, you want to go running, you don't have that skill anymore. You go outside and you run and you don't think to yourself, I need to relearn how to run. I need to perfect the skill. You think to yourself, I need to go work out and sweat. And so you push yourself to fatigue with running and your technique is terrible and the injuries are insane. Running is responsible for, I think more injuries than almost any other form of exercise in the mainstream. And it's mainly because we just don't know how to run. Here's the thing too. Once you forget that skill, it takes a while to relearn it. So it's not like you, you know, again, if you're listening and you haven't run since you were in sixth grade like most people and you think to yourself, okay, I'm gonna go give myself a couple weeks or a month to kind of get into the skill of running. It's gonna take a year or two. It takes a long time. You're literally forgot how to do it. And so when you go and push yourself running, you hurt yourself. So that's the big problem with it. But other than that, cardio is another form of exercise. And if you're being active, that's wonderful. It's better than not being active. If you have limited time though, fat loss is your goal. You want to build insurance against the problems of modern life. A better investment is resistance training. I think a better way to say that is that running right, right? People think that they, if you ask somebody who runs all the time, they think that they run fine and they have the skill of running. And someone listening right now is going like, really, how hard is it to learn to run? I can go run right now. Maybe I haven't done it in 10 years, but I could go run. You can do it, but you don't do it correctly. I could swing a golf club too. I don't have the technique. And not to mention too, people that run, like you're mentioning burning fat, and they think that they're going to keep the same muscle mass that they have. Like your body's going to start shedding weight everywhere. And that's the thing, is that you get more efficient at it. You get good at it. And yes, we've evolved to run, but that's a totally different body than you think you're getting after. Right. There's not a single client in two decades of training that I have, and I would imagine you guys are close to that, if not a similar, that I've ever trained that I did not get them and assess them and find all kinds of issues, imbalances, pronating the feet, knees collapsing in, anterior pelvic tilt, the forward head, rounded shoulders. They've got all these, these posture issues because we sit down all day long and they have all this, these overactive, underactive muscles that are tight and pulling on the body and causing chronic hip pain, back pain, knee pain, shoulder pain, neck pain, all these things going on with them. And they also want to lose weight. And then they think that running is a great way. And it couldn't be, it couldn't be further from the truth. You take somebody with all those posture issues and they repetitively run outside on concrete or on a treadmill, all that pounding does is exaggerate all those problems. So all it's going to do is speed up to getting to that injury or speed up to that being worse. More, okay, to take it even a step further, if you live in America, if you grew up in America or in most modern Western societies, you've been wearing shoes for most of your life. Now that's okay. That's okay if you walk around and you're just living around. But if you want to have the skill of running, the way that our bodies evolve to run, you need strong feet. It's not with shoes, okay. But in studies on this, there's actually cultures in the world. I know in Kenya, there's an area in Mexico where people run since they're children. And when you watch their gate in the way that the foot hits the ground, it's totally different. Totally different than the way you run when you wear big cushiony shoes in fact, running shoes are designed to compensate for our terrible running. When you run naturally, they actually hit with the forefoot first. The foot with all of its muscles and the ankle and all of its muscles actually acts as a shock absorber. You're not supposed to land heel first. That's a terrible way to run. But if you, again, if you're living in a modern society, you wear big running shoes, how do you run heel first? You always hit heel first. That's why you got big pads on the bottom of your shoes. But when you watch these people, if you go watch a modern hunter-gatherer society, go look at the Hadza tribe. Watch them run. They're barefoot, forefoot first, and they run well into their 70s and 80s without any problems. So no, this is a skill that 99% of us totally forgot. If you want to learn that skill, give yourself a couple of years good coaching and practice. Don't run to workout, practice to run. But most people don't care about that. They don't care. They just want to burn body fat. Yeah, that's... In which case, go lift weights. And that's the reason why we come off like we're anti because we know what most like. I'm not anti to someone who says, Adam, I love to run. Can I run? Like, I'm not anti to that person. That's hardly anybody. Right. You know, most people are like... I want to burn fat. I want to burn fat. I want to look better. I want to feel better. What do I need to do? And if it's look better, feel better, running is not the answer for me. So unless you're somebody who enjoys that as part of the process, then yeah. And then in that case, I'm not anti. I'm all for it. Next question is from Flaw4581. What sport community do you feel generally underutilizes or totally overlooks weightlifting? You know, these days, luckily most sports utilize some form of resistance training. It wasn't like this not that long ago. I don't... Yeah, I don't... You know, I'm looking at... He gave some examples. Rock climbers, endurance runners, cyclists. You know, I'm trying to think it is... Is there anybody at the most elite level in any of those sports or any other sport for that matter that has not learned that strength training has got to be part of the routine? I wouldn't say at the elite level. I think at the elite level by now, everybody utilizes some form of resistance training to strengthen the body or protect... At least protect against injuries. I mean, I know 30, 40 years ago, a lot of athletes didn't use it. Before that, it was nobody. You know, I think it was football players, if we're not... If I'm not mistaken, we're the first mainstream athletes to use football... Excuse me, resistance training. But before that, if you lifted weights, they said you would get muscle bound. You'd lose your athleticism, which isn't true at all. Oh, that was big in the baseball community. They were trained so hard not to develop muscles in the upper body, especially because they thought it would slow down your bat swing. Yeah, and then Mark McGuire came out and crushed everybody. That's right. I would say mainstream. Forget the elite, because at the elite, everybody does resistance training now. It's just changed according to the sport. But just kind of mainstream, I'd say endurance athletes. Endurance athletes, when I would train clients or when I worked in gyms, the endurance athletes were the ones that were the least likely to want to do any resistance training. But on the flip side, they were also the most blown away when they'd incorporate it. I used to love taking triathletes and marathon runners. I actually trained a couple runners that ran century runs, where they would run 100 miles. And we would do resistance training appropriate, right? So I would correctional exercise and injury prevention time resistance training. And they would just... They would come back and be like, I can't believe I didn't do this before. It's like I am so much faster. I don't hurt as much. It's been such an incredible addition to my routine. I mean, granted, it wasn't much. It was once a week, but it made a huge difference. Yeah, I had some cyclists. I think that was a community that definitely... My client was interested in it and found the benefits of it, especially when he needed to go up hills and gain that power and extra strength and found a lot of resiliency from working out. It kept him from getting injured as often. He used to get injured a lot more when he'd fall off his bike and break his collarbone or other muscles and things would tear. And so, there was a lot of benefit there, but he would always express to me how much it was needed in that community. And not a lot of people were seeing the benefit to also lifting weights to promote more performance in cycling. Well, I would agree. I think if there's anywhere, because I think at the highest level, I think they all do. But if there's anywhere, I'd say endurance, because they can get away with it the most. You can be still pretty damn good of an endurance... It's the energy efficiency. Yeah, exactly. I mean, and we talk about this all the time, right? Like, nothing is going to get you better at your sport than doing your sport more and more. And that's an endurance sport, so you got to do it a lot to get good at it. So you've become a very good swimmer, runner, cyclist for long distance by just doing lots of that and be okay and probably pretty damn competitive. And the weight training is not going to benefit as much as somebody who's obviously more of a strength sport, right? And then the key is also doing the resistance training appropriately for the sport. If I take an endurance athlete and I train them with weights wrong, I'm going to make them a worse endurance athlete. You're going to hurt them. Same thing with any other athlete. It's a totally different approach. When I'm training endurance athletes with resistance training, I'm injury prevention. I'm increasing stability. I'm working on muscles to promote posture because running biomechanics start to get less... Decelerating muscles, things like that. Exactly. Totally. I've worked with dancers with resistance training. And again, and they had to maintain their aesthetics, right, because they're on stage. So I'm not trying to build tons of strength and muscle, but what I am trying to do is support their, increase their supports and stability so that they can maintain their posture and do their moves better or whatever. So it has to be applied appropriately, but the core of resistance training is strengthening. So if it's applied properly, it will just strengthen your positions and strengthen your technique. And that's the thing that you need to understand about it. Look, Mind Pump is recorded on video as well as audio. Come find us on YouTube, Mind Pump Podcast. You can also find all of us on Instagram. You can find Justin at Mind Pump, Justin, me at Mind Pump Sal, Adam at Mind Pump, Adam, and Doug at Mind Pump, Doug. I didn't do these 10-minute workouts or sometimes go to the gym just squat or just deadlift. That wasn't until way later in micro, like 30-on. It's for the reasons that Sal just brought up, right? You could think 10 minutes, like 10 minutes. I'm barely, what do I, burn 100 calories or something? Yeah, waste of time. Yeah, waste of time. All I have to do is have two Hershey kisses, and it's already...