 WeK assigns legislative instrument revoking O'Mahia's recognition as ex-Riverstate governor and Chairman Lagos Parks and Garages Management committee MCO law Mali solidarity rally for APC presidential candidates, Bala Ahmed, Tinnable This is plus politics. I'm Mary Annicole It's still plus politics. Well, we're still being joined by Dr. Chidi Lloyd. He's the chairman and more local government area in River state and Subway Eli is the director strategic communications and spokesperson for the Tonya core APC gubernatorial campaign council in River state. Just a minute. I'm going to start with you, Dr. Lloyd. There are many who have wondered why the U-turn for Governor WeK against the Supreme Court's earlier ruling. And then it took this long for the governor to finally realize and withdraw, you know, the privileges of an ex-governor that he previously had given to Mr. Meher. What exactly could have resulted to this? Well, Mary, I want to thank you for this opportunity. And to say that the governor has not done any wrong. Because what the governor did at the beginning, you know, in 2015, Recall that the river state has over 30, came up with the most, directing the governor to recognize as the president of river state. And the governor acted on the resultant part of the majority of the river state as it then was in 2016. Then somewhere in 2022, the same assembly took off and said that they have more facts. They now know what it is in 2015 and came up with another, urging the governor to be recognized as the president of river state. And to go on to recover all that has been passed off, to, you know, enjoy as the president of river state. So the governor of river state is only a pure democrat, and that is what the ex-governor did at the beginning, the different organs of government. And that is exactly what the ex-governor did. A lot of people have put what is behind the ex-governor and all that. But it is better for a group of people to recognize that the river state has came up to clear the misery of the state. Imagine it is not surprising that people can make mistakes and protect the people. Even God himself, and somewhere in the state to recognize himself, you recall the story of Prophet Ezekiel and Ezekiel. You recall that God was an Ezekiel, so he took Ezekiel to prepare for death. And Ezekiel and Ezekiel, these are not what he thought. And he had done it. And God said to Ezekiel, is it going to be difficult to remember? And when God remembers, God told Ezekiel to go back and destroy him for the lives of Ezekiel. So the thing about Ezekiel is that people go down. In this part of the world, people don't go down. So if God can make the thing happen, how much less is it? You also recall that people, the justice of the people of Ezekiel. I also had time for so much to remember this part. Which is the main part, the main conflict evidence. Which they didn't have. They made the conflict. So if you remember, I told you, remember, because of Ezekiel and Ezekiel and Ezekiel, and the Supreme Court, and in 2019, in the Mojibor against the corner case, had corrected the evasives in the two figure and the case. So the life history tried to not deal to act about the deal of Ezekiel and Ezekiel. The most important thing was the governor, the guy of the law. No. But in terms of justice, they asked Ezekiel, the governor said, all the evasives of Ezekiel that we are going to add, we are going to add by Ezekiel and Ezekiel. Okay. And that's the lesson. Because he's constitutional, he doesn't need the respect of the prejudice of the electoral law. Okay. Well, I don't see why. Okay. Let me, because your line is a bit problematic and I couldn't hear everything you said. Let's go to Sokbe. Sokbe, Mr. Lloyd is saying that it's very normal what has happened and he's given his reasons. But then, of course, members of your party are of the opinion that the governor ought to somewhat appeal to the consciences of reverse people. Not just that. Apologize to reverse people in the words of your party flouting the laws of the Supreme Court that had initially stopped him from recognizing Mr. Mayhair as a governor. What's your take? Well, it's a tragedy of momentary self-proportions that can be the 21st century while hearing these fables. I just just came to my former friend Mr. Lloyd, who has a PhD in law on the University of Calabar publicly blasphemy quoting the Bible, quoting God as as fallible, as scammable of retracting certain steps are taken to justify the class impunity and abuse of office by his name, Mr. Mayhair. It's a tragedy here. Mr. Lloyd is first one as a lawyer called to the Niger Bar. He knows that under the legal process acts, Section 3 provides for the Board of Ventures. It's mentally it's also a lawyer it's a member of the Board of Ventures. Not only a family member, it's a life venture. By that Board of Ventures on Section 3 of the legal process acts, it saddles the responsibility of calling Niger lawyers or anybody that trains under the custom of legal education and qualifies as provided by that law to be called to the Niger Bar. I talked about the man who was called to Bar in 1998 very impact on the fingertips and me as a pastor. Now that man is Governor of Rivers in 2015. Some heat off is by law on Section 9. And by June 30th the Assembly that he had already agreed to may ratified his vision. It should be like telling the Assembly to pass his militia. It's not like it should be like if my leader of the House for two times it's not three times. It was last about three times. I think three times were later for two times. Now that House is reduced last House of Assembly of Rivers State has become a typical of a stamp where people wake up in the morning and they can rule the Supreme Court. They wanted to demand the Supreme Court so it was never Governor after the law and they wake up seven years, almost eight years after and they go on the last story and tell us they are found by that same mistake. Come on. This is the message of Nigeria for God's sake. I'm sorry, so may I just hold on. What do you think prompted Governor Wickey at the time to make that decision even against the Supreme Court? I mean, I remember the case the court case of Ameci versus Inaq that declared Governor Ameci at the time as the valid governorship candidate. What do you think prompted that move in the first instance? Mayan. Back in let's all add that was interviewed by the Supreme Court in that judgment of June 26th and 27th, it's quite clear Omea did not participate in the primaries that led to the lesions of Dr. Michi Kofi. So it was never never, Ameci was a luckless of its set. That was the one Ameci challenged and went all the way to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court in its wisdom yes, but in the eyes of the law Omea was never Governor of Russia. It's essentially an impeccably pleased post. Yes, so Wickey Governor became Chief of Staff of Ameci was an active dramatic person in that judicial struggle from the Senate to the Supreme Court. In fact, at the time Ameci went to the exile in Ghana to serve his life. So Omea said, okay, I'm not going to let that struggle. I'm not saying Ameci in an act of gratitude appointed the Chief of Staff so he was looking at those as in those he's being the best that he took was clearly political and I'm content to ask him it was actually absolute content of the Supreme Court. But it was politics so it was okay by him. So for him, it was a variety law. And that's what he did. This attraction is happening because Omea has gone to support Attica Bumbaka, the president. If Omea has been on his side like we're looking at another Omea will still be a former governor of the United States. And people come to this frustration and tell the world and quote the scriptures when they deliberately committed an act look, these guys should come for that money out in the next seven or eight months in military, honestly, okay, let's go back for that money. It's not a good thing it's not for friendship it's not where you turn your friends in and out as governor, fly governor and pay them money as you wish. Omea was never governor after the law we can do so even the assembly has passed a solution let us do with that continuity as you just told them some kind of truth. Okay, let me go back to let me go back to let me go back to let me go back to the point you only got assembly by the fight it doesn't seem not to play politics let me let's give Dr Lloyd an opportunity to respond to these allegations that you've levelled. Dr Lloyd, before you respond to Omea, I'm curious I mean the government is asking for a refund of 600 plus million Naira and they've put an end to some of the benefits that had been accrued to him but I'm wondering how what right, let me ask it this way what right does Governor Wike have nor the House of Assembly have to ask him to return these monies if in the first instance according to the Supreme Court judgement was even something that was done in error, knowing fully premeditated this is what Omea is saying and this is what many others in the APC are saying that this was done in spite of the Supreme Court's law now what right does the Governor have to ask for a repayment or refund of all of those monies knowing that it was even dispensed knowingly even as the court had said that whatever the Governor was doing was airing against the law secondly, the allegations that this is politically politically motivated that Mr Omea is now of course supporting someone that Governor Wike reportedly is fighting against would you like to respond to that Maryam, Maryam I would say the temptation of causing in total your I've listened to the operation of my former friend a very detailed I've listened to closely to hear he would say Omea has said by his own showing we have put that to justice with the decision of the Supreme Court for justice of good tidings as well as the number of governor and I want the people of Maryam to ask in years of Wike it has to be made a mistake the old progressive Congress even if they do not insist I tell you that what would what would have been their as an opposition of the government of the Congress this is not very bad for people to have the news like yours to grandstand you know the jurisprudence has to be closed what to buy a airline and would have done would have been to go to court to challenge the government assuming those it is that the election was never going and as the weters election Omea will return the money you just wait and see what you wait and see what but Dr. Lloyd when you refer to something when you refer to I know I'm saying when you refer to something as a mistake it means that you did it in error as opposed to knowing if a court has declared that this thing is null and void but you go ahead to say no it's not null and void and you continue to do something and dispense money and dispense money in that regard that is the point I'm trying to take to I recall that Omea was an airline and they produced me as a three-time member of the river state and six years after the 12 years I was the leader of the government in that alone chamber the governor of the river state nearly acted on the legislative instrument to recognize acted on another legislative instrument to direct on the governor did not two or more to give six hundred and sixty years of error to address Omea the same body that said he should also came up to say look we have a better plan please this can I comment? we should be applauding members of the party let's let him learn and then you can comment I'm listening to him he's telling me that what happened was not the governor did not recognize people who once had a job now that he did not recognize please let me comment but he said look the Supreme Court members have got it it doesn't matter how long they took it doesn't matter how long they took because the potential they have revised themselves and they have done the right thing and they have called the governor if Chief Omea had did not one way or another if Chief Omea had did not declare his support for Vice President Atikua Buboka would we be having this conversation yes or no? what? Dr. Lloyd I didn't get that I'm going to ask the question again if Mr. Omea had did not declare his support for Vice President Atikua Buboka would we be having this conversation in the first place well you know that it's a yes or no question Dr. Lloyd I'm asking you to do and I'm going to introduce you to the lawyer at first I'm a lawyer that I hold the famous University of San Aba I'm waiting for my answer and I want to say that at the University of Nigeria I need to have what I'm telling you the city of Nigeria and Mayor Mayor this has nothing to do with the lesson of their personal and political participation let's let Omea talk because it's important that I'm happy that the Omea community has connected with the anomaly and we use our program since you refused to answer my question I'm going to ask since you refused to answer my question directly I'm going to ask Omea to come in so where you go ahead yes Mayor if you trust me who have me in the house right now with Dr. Lloyd attempt to sell ice to Eskimos you also sell ice to Eskimos and you know that she will return the PhD degree to the University of Calabar she will return this course to back to the city to the Board of Adventures to make yourself better I think you should I think it's personal I'm sorry so where you can address issues but do not take personal shots at him it's unnecessary I have mentioned this you have to put him back on track I thought you have one no gentlemen that will not happen on this show you will only address the issues and not take jabs at each other unnecessary language is not allowed on this program please for the last time please let's not do that let's address the issue on the ground now finally I want to talk about the issue of allowing well the government the government of river states has said that they're going to take back the criminal charges or drop the criminal charges against the governor former governor and of course the governorship candidate of the all-progressive congress Tony Cole would you like to speak on that Dr Lloyd other than taking jabs at your the government of river states the attorney general of river states has powers to protect constitution and continuous it's a constitutional right so if the government finds it has discontinued they have not committed any offense what they have done is withdraw and you don't know why they have to withdraw it and that's why I'm asking what is the reason behind the withdrawal because this is the case I wish if you are talking to the attorney general of river states I would have glad to answer the question should be what about the attorney general and the powers to institute and discontinue under the constitution of the federal republic and the republic of the republic of lunatic so you are talking you are talking not a big bad person okay take it easy finally Subway this has to be good news for people in your camp because you obviously are the spokesperson one of the spokesperson for the Tony Cole campaign what's your final thought on this well from Abinichio it was a child that was politically motivated it was a snare campaign and they law the basic ingredients for establishing a gift of any party accused if those ingredients are not available there is nothing to pursue and use to prove this case we are unable to doubt not a smart friend to do like those but they have it was on this fight it was in the SPC and if I looked about the PDP he notes both sides I know that it is a pure trap from day one if you talk about the allegation in law you must bring it up to prove that a friend if there are those ingredients and they advise the police back they have both choices for the pull out but again it measures the power of not impossible by the attorney general of river state they go back to the campaign board and then if the PDP go and do some further research I will come up with more TMZ spray allegations the moment the ones they brought have been caught up by the evidence so they pulled out but don't forget these are politicians they could come up again with some fresh charges tomorrow but again you know it doesn't matter how many times the law allows you in the criminal trial if you do not have the evidence to prove those offences to alleged or the crime alleged that they committed a typical condition then if they bring the charges again because the allegations are furious they have specials they have speculative they have no foundation in law in fact they have clearly political attempts we have to go gentlemen unfortunately unfortunately we do not have time gentlemen unfortunately our time is up Dr. Chidi Lloyd is the chairman of the local government area in river state where Eli is the director strategic communications and spokesman we call APC gubernatorial campaign council in river state thank you so much gentlemen for being part of the conversation well we will take a quick break and when we return we will be talking about the Tinnubu Shatima Solidarity March that took place yesterday in Lagos state and of course we will be talking about the postponement of the flag off of campaigns for the APC in the country stay with us