 Ahoy Hoy! I'm Dr. Sumerian, not a real doctor, and today we are going to talk about the other half. This is part two of our series on the recent problems on the SCP wiki. Now, if you watched Tuesday's video or yesterday's video where I made a couple of corrections, you know that pixelated harmony, the user behind almost two percent of the SCP's works, has requested that any of those works be taken off of the SCP wiki, deleted. The SCP wiki has put it to a community vote, and it's almost certainly, certainly going to go in the direction of those articles remaining, which I have to assume was the purpose of the vote in the first place. With that said, how did we get to here? What situation could be so bad? What behavior could be so terrible as to cause people who strongly, and I mean strongly hold to the idea that the author's intentions or sacrosanct when it comes to their work can actually change their minds? A lot of people, after I made the video on Tuesday, I think assumed that was it, which would indicate they hadn't actually watched the video because the video says it'll be a second part, but one person was awkward. How am I supposed to know that you're going to make another video? I just have to assume you only made a little, I'm like, because in the video, anyway, not important. The important part here is that there is a lot, and I mean a lot of context behind this decision. And while I still disagree with the decision, I very much understand the attitude of the people who are making these decisions. So let's take a moment and go back to the point that this sort of started to set off. Harmony was tagging articles that Harmony had written incorrectly. Harmony was also cold posting articles of a lower quality than the SCP Wiki generally expected. I believe most of them survived anyway, which makes sense because Harmony has a huge amount of experience writing for the Wiki, meeting the minimum standard, which is not a very high bar to clear. And ultimately, this led to a little bit of a problem. Anytime pixelated Harmony received critique on posts, the reaction was not always negative, but oftentimes hostile. So the SCP Wiki's staff began to look at the problem from the perspective of, is this going to become a disciplinary issue? Harmony began to not just post lower quality articles, Harmony began to post low quality articles and mistagged them, respond hostily to criticism. And then eventually, and this is the kind of thing that took a little while for it actually occurred, posted a comment on the on mouse's guide to redactions. Now we're going to read that comment here so we can understand what's happened. The guide's name is what hides beneath the black and white of black boxing. And personally, I feel like it's a pretty good guide for black boxing mainly because it does the thing that I have been suggesting to people for a long time and that is, don't black box. So we have a comment from Harmony on this post. The problem is, this person, Harmony has, what is that, 20? 20-ish, maybe 25 revisions within an hour almost. It's a 944 to 1052. The final product is not necessarily objectionable. However, the first comment, the first iteration is incredibly hostile and likely deserving of disciplinary action. So this is a terrible guide. What kind of creative writing side are we that we celebrate something that spits on our core values in favor of deifying pedantry? There's not a single word here that isn't telling people how they're allowed to think and nothing about how they can use an iconic SCP visual element in new creative or interesting ways, instead urging them to not even consider the tool and to throw it directly in the trash. A complete waste of a good author's misguided effort. This is the worst, I'm sorry, it doesn't say this is, this is the worst guide or essay on this wiki. Okay. The final iteration of this is a completely different post. And if you just looked at that, you would think, what's the problem? The issue is, of course, that people still read the first and middling iterations. It doesn't, just because you edit a comment doesn't mean, especially on wiki.dot, because it keeps the history. When you edit a comment, it does not preclude people from having first read it before you edit it or even reading it after you edit it. So this is important because this led to a revocation. A revocation is a low, probably the lowest level actual action when it comes to the disciplinary team. What can be done on the disciplinary team oftentimes is a warning. Don't do this. They send a message. They say, hey, don't do this. A revocation of somebody's membership on the SAP wiki forces them to reapply, which is, as most people who have tried to reapply know, sometimes a time consuming process, at least they don't have to register for wiki.dot, which is the usual barrier to entry for people. But it does, it gives you pause because you can't just ignore it. There's no, it requires you to do something to get back onto the wiki. So you have to acknowledge that a thing has happened. Unfortunately, this was not taken well or lightly by harmony. This led to an eventual, the deletion request that I talked about in the last video, and eventually leaving the wiki. Unfortunately, that's not the only thing that happened. You may recall in the deletion request, quote, that it talked about how if people did not respect harmony's wishes, that harmony would then individually pursue them and make and hold them accountable or something in that vein, right? Maybe a little bit less. No, it was pretty explicit, actually. And so this community vote went up. And the community vote was kind of a solution in search of a problem because the real problem was just delete the articles, right? That was just, that was, everyone was looking for a way not to have to do that. And they found it. I'm not going to re litigate that. I still very strongly believe that they should have just acceded to harmony's request and left it at that. Now we move into, though, sort of a spiraling problem. Pixelated harmony and pixelated harmony's behavior over the last, I'd say, maybe not fully six months, but close to six months at this point, have been incredibly troubling in a number of different ways. I will not speculate on someone's mental health. But just saying the phrase, don't speculate on a person's mental health or I won't speculate on a person's mental health invites speculation and acknowledges that you almost certainly have speculated you're just not going to say it out loud. I'm still not going to do that because it is I'm not a psychiatrist. I'm not a psychologist. I have no degrees and anything, not a real doctor. So I can't, I can't actually evaluate this person, but I can describe this person's behaviors. So and compare them to the behaviors that you may recognize in others or that I have personally encountered in others. So when the community vote went up, a large number of people obviously voted to keep the articles on the wiki and I have spoken directly to harmony and received, oh my God, so many screenshoted images of discord conversations and discord conversations and more discord conversations. I've also received, asked for this specifically, what were some of the worst things that you sent to other people? I'd like to see those because you've been banned for harassment on the scp wiki and that's the thing that happened out of these messages. Tell me what's the worst things that you sent? Now, there was like 20 messages to DJ cactus in a very not maybe 20 is probably exaggerating. There were a lot. There was like a message, then six more messages and somewhat rapid succession. And then it's just a whole thing. But what we're going to do real quick is we're going to look at just the just the three messages that I have that didn't go to DJ cactus that went to essentially what looked like random other individuals. So this is a listing. This is a collection of messages. I'm going to leave names out because I don't think anyone other than the necessarily the principles or people who are already well known and can generally have to deal with this sort of problem already should be named unless it's necessary for the story that I'm trying to get across. The first message, this so called town hall betrays the principles this community claims are its core values. If you deny me happiness, I'll curse you until the day I die. This so called town hall betrays the principles its community claims are its core values. You have personally betrayed me if and the funny part is I don't have the bottom of this message. I feel though it's going in a bad direction because the next thing it says is if you play a and I'm going to guess a role in my articles staying on the site something something that the fact that it starts with if you do if you do this usually indicates that it means then this will happen. I don't know what then this will happen would have been but all of these messages in general except for maybe the boilerplate at the beginning the the so called town hall betrays the principles this community claims are its core values. That's fine. It's the little additional messages afterwards that just add a little bit of spice to to to and then the wrong kind of spice will say. Harmony sent these messages out to I believe everyone who voted to keep harmonies works on to the wiki on the wiki. So now we have this problem. Those are just the messages that harmony sent to the average user and I assume some people that harmony knew probably got more personalized messages as well specifically because we're talking about DJ cactus here and I'm going to name DJ cactus because first of all DJ cactus is a huge name second of all DJ cactus can handle it. He's a he's a he's a grown man and it sucks that he has been drawn into this in this way I think because it doesn't seem like it's deserved but he has and there's no way to explain what's happening without specifically talking about him so I just have a few messages here from from harmony I like how you're calling something I need to do to live bad faith does it feel good to be this morally bankrupt but it checks out that moral right is meaningless to you moral rights exist dipshit I'm not sure how many warnings you have left I'm leaving well enough alone because of the fallout of tearing you down would hurt people I care about and a on and on and on there's a undercurrent of do what I want and or leave me alone or I will destroy you these are the kind of messages that can get you banned from the scp wiki for harassment period and in a reasonable way if you talk to harmony you're going to find that after the revocation of harmony's account harmony believe that a ban was on the way and given that harmony thought that the best solution was to actually uh hasten it or at least not care and just do whatever and this is a direct result of that the problem is what comes after and there's a strong implication here do what I want or else right the or else came very shortly thereafter and it was and now I understand the problems you can see I don't know how to cover this section of what's happening in a serious way I'm going to or I'm going to try my best without laughing or chuckling or giving it any kind of derision but it will be incredibly difficult because it is ridiculous at this point to retaliate against dj cactus harmony launches a campaign to expose what harmony calls the scp wiki's shadow cabal also known as the yurt conspiracy the yurt is a discord server with a number of prominent maybe some non prominent scp wiki authors users and staff it is used from time to time because it is you know people on that server are part of staff and so on is oftentimes not oftentimes necessarily because I'm not in it I don't know but it has been used to discuss staff duties between staff members as though it were a private message between two people or more than two people this is pretty reasonable behavior as I think most people can see you put a bunch of staff members together in an offsite discord of course there's sometimes going to talk about staff actions and in some cases coordinate those staff actions those happen between the scenes anyway it's a political system of course organization happens there's nothing wrong with that it's a bureaucracy maybe there's something wrong with the way the bureaucracy functions but if it's going to function that way it's pretty reasonable that people are going to act this way it is not insidious it is not anything other than a group of friends hanging out on a discord server and I want you to understand something I have been sent gosh 60 or more images I have scrolled through an offsite repository of images I've looked at the timelines and there is there are two things that I know for sure one well not for sure because you can never know anything for sure but I have two things that I know with an almost absolute certainty one there is no shadow cabal there is no conspiracy to take over the scp wiki or replace it with members of some shadowy nebulous group period if you see people making that claim those people are either misguided or deliberately misleading you and two pixelated harmony believed that were participating in a conspiracy to overthrow the leadership of scp declassified discord server and the subreddit itself and the scp wiki staff now how is it possible that I could be sure of those two things or as sure as I can be of those two things and that's because I've looked through the only person who speaks in conspiratorial language or speaks of speak of things in ways that make it seem as though there is a conspiracy going on is pixelated harmony and I don't this is why it's this is why this is troubling behavior it's the kind of behavior that it absent the context of the belief that it is a conspiracy it just looks like every once in a while an odd comment there's a reuse of language the same terminologies over and over and over again and we're not talking about the basics like calling everything fascist although that exists too but a thing with conspiracy theories that I have often noticed with people who are believers in those conspiracy theories is the reuse of certain phrases or words that are abnormal they're esoteric in their use and for example here one of the words I see used very often is hierarchy or corrupt hierarchy again making no judgments on this person's mental health or any kinds of speculation but everything I see here reminds me heavily of interactions I have had regularly with people who believe in conspiracy theories that the kind of conspiracy theories that make you roll your eyes and so does this and looking through it with that context in mind I'm sure I'm not the only one that sees it now but this is a bigger problem I've also seen like I said 60 or 50 or 60 or 70 it's a lot I've read a lot of people's personal personal conversations and for nothing like at best there's people who like I said talk about how staff can sometimes be insular and needs to be more open and how they'd like to improve the wiki it's not even noble cause corruption which is a thing that can be real this isn't noble cause corruption because it's not corruption it's just people discussing things on a pretty reasonable basis now I you might be saying maybe there is more information that you don't have I have multiple times requested from harmony hard proof hard proof specifically and every time it's a document drop of completely vague nothing it's a nothing burger there's no there there but the worst part of all and I have to be clear about this is that this belief and these troubling behaviors have led to further troubling behaviors some of those pms those threats were to minors if you believe that a shadowy corrupt evil other are doing things almost any behaviors can be justified and that is a problem because pixelated harmony believes this thing exists and has cast about in anger and frustration and hurt almost everyone that harmony has ever been in contact with I want to be clear here if I haven't been already there is no shadow cabal there is no conspiracy there's just people being people some of those people are flawed too but that's mean what this person thinks it means now from this perspective comes the staff's reluctance to delete the articles or to accede to this request I understand where they're coming from in fact I strongly believe that eventually pixelated harmony will come to see this for what it was and probably strongly regret both the behaviors that came after the request for deletion and the request for deletion itself so you might think to yourself if this person is going to regret it shouldn't you protect this person from the consequences of that behavior and on the one hand yes you that is a I should say on the one hand yes that is a good argument on the other hand we consider author autonomy and control over their own works to be sacrosanct either we do or we don't that's how it is it sucks it really does but it still should happen not gonna happen but it should happen now we have to cover a couple of things a couple of tertiary side things that I have encountered in my time in researching this first of all harmony has all but admitted both openly to other people and to me in private that and I should say all but admitted because when confronted with this reality harmony denied that that was the case but the context of phrasing and the timing make it impossible to to believe anything else is happening here but all that admitted that had cactus a seeded to harmony's demands none of this shadow cabal would have come out so harmony would have gone on believing that a conspiracy existed and that harmony was a part of that conspiracy but not believed that it was serious enough to expose the corruption until harmony didn't get what harmony wanted harmony feels wronged and when you feel wrong that I and this is something I very strongly understand as someone who feels wronged by scp staff in the past one thing you want to do is win all the time you want to feel as though you've won like everything that happens to you is sort of you know your own plan and so we can look at some lines from my conversations here where this is all part of a plan to put the screws to the scp wiki staff this is all part of a plan to put pressure on them to put them in an impossible situation where they have to choose between author autonomy or losing 2% of the wiki's works these are statements that were made legitimately and statements that were made as a defense as like hey look at me look how good i'm doing in and of themselves those are troubling but we also have like even just so this shadow cabal thing um harmony has opened up uh irc logs and when i say irc logs i mean all of harmony's irc logs are open to uh people in this offsite thing they're doing work well technically these people are doing because these people uh a lot of them hold the scp wiki in a negative regard and this offsite site this offsite thing which dox's people be clear uh as a matter of uh course and uh is incredibly hostile to the scp wiki from most of what i've read are doing their best to dig through them but they're digging through them for their own reasons they're digging through them because they want to find dirt and dirt that's probably unrelated to what we're talking about here but every private conversation that harmony has had every private chat uh that harmony has ever had is now open to the public and we're talking about somebody who's a moderator a administrator and a member of staff and a user of the scp wiki for 10 years for a whole ass decade so of course there will be things in those logs that are terrible that's given i mean they should have been that does that mean they should be out there probably not because there's gonna be a lot of things that could get people in trouble in uh hot water or just make them feel bad about themselves and it's has nothing to do with any of this situation they have no involvement at all with any of it and yet they will be hurt too all because harmony wants to hurt the people that hurt harmony period god there's a particular line in here that i feel it was almost the last thing i think that was said um yes and this sort of illustrates the point i'm making and also is troubling for other reasons but we'll go from that oh and this is from harmony oh and i posted some selfies on kf as part of my successful effort to win their trust so if anyone tries to shame me for it they dumb which is true you post pictures yourself you do whatever i didn't post anything explicit which is also true unless you think toes are lewd not really sure why anyone would i can share some of those with you if you really want to see or think you would need to have it for full context i don't understand why i would need that for full context i only mention it because someone might bring it up to impute my credibility i could see that happening i guess i did it on purpose to make horny lonely internet boys pay attention to what i was saying long enough to get over their knee jerk reaction and listen to me like i said it worked and i respond no i'm good legitimately uh i actually wrote no i'm good no i'm good uh i figured benedict want to lie by a mission and so on and so forth there are two problems i have with this statement obvious well three problems if we really want to be technical first of all i'm not interested in pictures of other people second of all um that's the one extra one that i wasn't thinking about second of all um this is again the idea that i have to win right so i'm doing this to manipulate other people to my bidding which is exactly what you're trying to supposedly expose but thirdly the language is troubling to me horny lonely internet boys there are four words there i'm find one of them incredibly objectionable because of the implications want to guess which one of those it is it's not horny it's not lonely it's not internet self reflect harmony please i know and and obviously i'm maybe i'm reading too much into that obviously it's just you say the words consider it what you just said and maybe reevaluate your position also and we're going to get this more in generalities now rather than the specifics of very troubling behavior and very troubling language under no circumstances is this acceptable behavior i can only evaluate the conspiracy theories and the behavior based on what is in front of me and i know i i literally impugned somebody for saying that earlier for saying i can only judge your videos by what's in this one video even if you promise that there will be more i have to assume this is the only thing that you've created and blah blah blah i have asked three or four times and had three or four rounds of files sent my way is an answer to those requests but i have requested concrete evidence of what you are claiming happened and you have sent me vagaries and the or at best you saying stuff in comments and private conversations that seems very conspiratorial and sinister and no one else agreeing with you people continuing conversations of course but in no way saying the things that you're saying this does not exist this is not real and i'm saying this to everybody now it's not worth considering at this point are there other problems on the scp wiki are there problems with scp staff is there problems with the scp harassment teams secret organization and the way they handle problems yeah there's problems in any bureaucracy should they delete these works as this user has requested yes they're not gonna i find that a problem it's not as but none of these things justify this behavior and it needs to stop and if it can't stop if this user won't stop the rest of us and this is the this is the main reason at the end of the last video i go i hate my life because i've done a whole hour on this if this user won't stop the rest of us have got to ignore it we've moved beyond the point where we can be concerned for this user's health we've moved beyond the point where we can not necessarily they're friends of this person and those friends should continue to try and get through to them i'm not one of them you're probably not one of this is the kind of and but if you see these stories come up they're they're nothing they mean nothing it's sound and fury and that's it i think that is it actually i think we'll move on now god i hate that i have to cover this at all but it has to be clarified thank you very much for watching if you enjoyed the video please hit the subscribe button and then hit the notification bell next to that so you're notified 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