 Welcome everybody. My name is Andre Pilda. I'm Dean of the Faculty of Public Affairs and thank you for joining us this morning. We have with us three FPA ambassadors that'll explain to you a little bit what that means in their presentation to help you understand a bit more about what it means to be a Carleton students in a program offered by a unit of the Faculty of Public Affairs. So again, three students are here to talk about their experiences. So what I will, or one alum and two students, in what I will do is I will introduce our three speakers first and then turn it over and then question and answer period later on. So first, may I introduce Taylor, who is a 2020 graduate of the Bachelor of Arts in Criminology and Criminal Justice with a concentration in psychology. Taylor worked and helped us do for the successful release of Mr. Seuth Kamra, a Sri Lankan author and father who is arbitrarily detained for writing a children's novel that depicted homosexuality. And Tori is a fourth year student also in the Bachelor of Arts in Criminology and Criminal Justice, but with a concentration in sociology. Taylor received a co-curricular record star achievement in second year for adding nine positions to her record. And finally, Resna is a fourth year student in the Bachelor of Arts with honors in law and a concentration in business law and a minor in business. She likes to sit in on random lectures for fun. So anyways, with that in mind, I'll pass it over to Taylor to get us started. Hi, I'm Taylor. Okay, so I just wanted to say that, first of all, I chose to come to Carleton and this program because it's a very specialized and niche program that I think is only offered at very few schools and in Canada. And I was very excited that this program was offered because it was something I was very interested off the bat, but something that I did learn in my first year going into it is that it's not, it is the rigorous study of criminal Criminology, it's criminal theory, you're learning a lot of theories and a lot of things that are applied in practice. And it's, I know some people are interested because it's really cool and sensationalized in news and, you know, TV shows and movies, but I think it's really important to emphasize that it is a lot of hard work. And although it can kind of like cross the line of being sometimes very sensationalized and media and like movies and over used to seeing in popular culture. We are doing the academic study of it. So you have to be prepared to take in a lot of theory and a lot of knowledge and be able to apply that into the real world. And I think that's the most important thing. When I graduated. Yeah. And then, so as was mentioned, I have, I had a lot of extracurricular activities that I decided to join during my time at Carleton as someone who Knows they would like to work with individuals with people. I thought it was important to enhance my Like my verbal skills, my interpersonal skills. So I joined the debating team and I, it was extremely helpful to just test you Right away with being able to speak in front of people that you don't know and maybe on topics that you're not so informed of and you just kind of get over that nervousness that you have You know, like for oral speaking and public speaking, and it helps you become very comfortable and and also also increase You know, researching stuff in a short a short amount of time and then being able to present that in a very coherent manner as well. So I would really emphasize joining any extracurriculars that are that you are That you find that would help you for your future career. If you don't know yet anything that's interesting for you, just anything to Anything to help you once you leave Carleton because you will be working in the real world. So just always keep that in mind that all the all the theories and knowledge that you're going to be learning Like that the goal of that in the end is so you can apply that one day in the real world. And then something I wish I knew when I started university is that At first you might it might seem like you don't know at much at all. And you feel kind of very like a relevant in the field as just a young student. But now that I've graduated, I've participated in so many Like events and I've met so many people in my last year. I worked at the Ottawa Crown Attorney's Office for the entire year. That was my field placement that you can choose doing your third or fourth year and from knowledge if you have good enough grades. So I suggest working hard enough. So you are able to apply for these positions Because it was the best decision I've ever made in my life. Honestly, and I'm I still keep in touch with my supervisor who is a Crown Prosecutor and I just met with for coffee with her actually yesterday and I still watch her court cases. I watched her secure court case through zoom with her yesterday. Just there's a lot of things you can get involved in and don't be afraid to do it because that this is really your opportunity to seize and cap it off. And the last thing I want to say was your professors are. Well, I don't know if I was extremely lucky. But every professor I had at Colton, I was inspired by and I had amazing relationship with they're always there for you. They will always try and accommodate you the best to your needs. Just go to class and, you know, redo your readings and be a good student. And you will do well and you will succeed. One of my professors brought in an old student of hers and he mentioned how we did an internship in Washington DC and I asked him afterwards for the contact information because it really intrigued me and I actually just called them up. And asked them if I could volunteer for them for the summer and this was last summer and they said, sure. And so I did an internship with them and I ended up working with a provoked legal clinic in DC and I authored allegation letters to the university. Nations and I learned how to like utilize United Nations treaty bodies and all these things. And that's how we ended up actually bringing Mr. Sethic Romero, who is from Sri Lanka. And all of this is because of a professor. Who is my law professor for criminal law and she brought in her old student and I went up to him at the end and I asked for the contact information and I just called them up and you have to do things like that and it will get you to really great places. So be motivated and you will succeed. Yeah, that's it. Thank you. So, okay. So Tori, good. Yeah. Hi everyone, my name is Tori. I am a fourth year student now in criminology with a focus in social. I'm really excited for you guys to start your degree criminology has been awesome. I find it to be kind of a misfit degree in the sense that it's so broad that people go in for a whole bunch of different reasons. And sometimes they go in just to kind of get into university and see what they like, but you'll totally find your way. First year is a really fun and exciting time so I'm super excited for you guys. This is a super cool degree in the sense that we get to do so many things you get to do law, social psych and cram those are mandatory and then you get to pick specificities. And I think that's so so cool. One of the things that really, really opened my eyes in first year was our indigenous history and the hardship of minorities in sociology because I'm from a super, super small town in Ottawa like you blink and you're gone like if you're driving down you blink you're already passed it. And so I never, I was never taught about our indigenous history and so sociology 1001 and 1002 just like blew my mind and I'm sure there are going to be classes like that for you guys to for whatever you're interested in definitely take electives that, you know, spark your interest we have so many they're really cool. So, for extracurricular activities. I so I got the star CCR war because I added nine to my CCR. I did things like foot patrol. I did PMC volunteering it's a really easy way to volunteer if you're already doing notes and making notes for your classes for yourself it's really easy just to send them into it's something to look to look into. But my favorite one was the Carlton University Criminology and Criminal Justice Society so it's literally the society of our degree. Not like if you have friends and psych or law or anything like that they can totally come into like it's an open society, but it definitely paved the way for my degree, I would say like I first year I really didn't know what I want to do and I saw this society and was like okay well I guess I'll go into it. And through that I've gotten so many volunteering experiences so many like networking experiences so many friends all those kinds of things I moved up from being a basic like member to them being director of volunteers and careers where I did for separate volunteering experiences for people in criminology last year and then this year I'm secretary and it's just absolutely amazing. So I would definitely tell you to look into that because we have awesome volunteering positions. I don't know what it's going to be like with COVID but we used to have panel events as well where I know people got jobs, I know people got volunteering experiences. It was really cool. I got volunteering experiences from it as well, it was really cool. And then one thing I wish I knew in first year I had a really awesome fall orientation leader in first year so she kind of set me up for like marks and field placement and now in my thesis. But I wish I knew how to get involved better Carlton has amazing volunteering experiences there are little ones in the corner is that if you don't pass by you'll never see it like one of my favorite ones has been for patrol. For patrol does like safe walks and walk and talk and stuff for Carlton and you want to have you would like it. Students, if they're not feeling safe or anything. It's patrol background you learn all your 10 codes I don't know if anyone's kind of in this for like being a police officer or security or something like that but volunteering with for patrol is not only extremely easy. It's right on campus especially if you're going to be there for like residency but great shifts great people and like I said like you get that experience you can put on your resume of I've already patrolled and I'm first year. I already know my 10 codes and I'm first year, which is crazy it's really really good. And if you volunteer for things like Panda I don't know if you guys have heard of that but if you volunteer for things like that, not with COVID but like in the next years hopefully. That's easy experience of working with people who are intoxicated or like medical stuff like that just really easy things to have on your resume and have a really good time at Carlton and get you integrated into the Carlton community as well. And the other thing I would ask you guys to do is meet with your profs. So if your prof has an office hour please go. I don't care if it was a question that you already know of. It helps so much with not only networking annoying professors like Taylor was saying like everything that she, she got from the professors but I got my thesis professor from doing this and networking. So with that you're going to find in fourth year if you want to do your thesis, you're gonna have a lot of problems, because people have already networked people have already went to their people to the profs that they like office hours, introduced themselves been a familiar face. So, if not the office hours then hopefully, you know when you are back in school going up to them being like hi, I'm you know, whatever, and I really like what you do I think we have overlapping interests, I might reach out to you later on for a thesis or like a masters. If you think of doing masters at Carlton stuff like that. But yeah something I wish I did a lot earlier and I found a lot of people doing catch up with third and fourth year. So definitely meet with your profs it's always really really good for them to know your, your name and your, your face but good luck and I'm really excited for you guys because this degree is awesome Carlton is awesome and you're going to be awesome. Yeah, so hi everyone my name is Resda and I'm in my fourth year of business law. And honestly, it couldn't have been like the worst timing to end your degree, because now you can go to all of your favorite spots and say proper goodbyes to them. Okay, so why did I choose business law. Well, honestly, going in I didn't know what I wanted to do. And so I may have been in the middle of like watching suits while I was choosing programs and so I was like, you know what business law sounds great. And then of course like I did a follow up research on it and I was really intrigued with with just how like the law works, because obviously, like they help sort of like structure is our society. And because we're always surrounded by business everywhere I just thought they would make a really nice compliment with each other. And so I thought you know why not and then if I don't like it. It's super easy to like change over. And so, but of course, because I am graduating in business law. So it means that I really enjoyed the program. And so what I learned, like going through my degree is that like in your first year is really the best sort of place to sort of test out different courses, but also like different activities around campus. In regards to the degree, if you are going into a law program in your first year, you only have to do one mandatory course, which is a lost 1001 and lost 1002, but they're actually the same basically part one and part two of like the same course. So everything else is elective and so you can really sort of branch out. If you think that you are into psychology, you can try them out. If you think you're into African studies, you can try that out either. Like there's a lot of like different like courses that you can try. That's really nice because then Indiana can sort of help formulate a concentration for you or even a minor if you decided to go into one. But yeah, so what sort of I learned from like my degree is that like start planning from day one. I know that a lot of people say that first year is a time to sort of relax. And then also you can do that, but like it won't maximize your potentials to achieving your goals. And so, for example, like a lot of the courses in your last year, you probably want to like do them but once you get into your last year you find out that like you didn't meet the prerequisites. And so it's really good to have everything set out in like your first year you could even like do what I do and then sort of just make a list of like all the courses I would take throughout my whole four years. And so that'll sort of help sort of like keep you on track with everything and make sure that you are following your objectives. Yeah, so that's really, so that's really like what I wanted you guys first to like know from all this. And then also like what Taylor and Tori have mentioned always be involved. I know that like first year I learned that it's super easy to either like not be involved at all or be too involved. And so I want you guys to sort of like be in the middle. So don't be, don't just go to your courses and then go home and then that's it. But actually try to reach out and like try to be involved with things because of course it'll, it'll make your university experience more fun. For example, like every year I would like to go to the different expo like expo presentation that event that happens like in the beginning of the year. It basically shows up like present all like different clubs and societies on campus that's available. And so you can try a lot of them out. But of course, like this year with everything being online, that'll be a lot harder, but I'm sure that like Carlton will find like a way to sort of reach out to students and then show them all the different opportunities that's available. So, but if not, you could always try again next year when everything to hopefully open up. So yeah, again, like it's really easy to not be involved at all or be too involved, which is me. I would, I think I got carried away and was like involved in everything. But I think that sort of helps narrow down what I like and what I don't like. And so being too involved is better than not being involved at all. And sort of from that, I was able to like sort of narrow down what I want to volunteer in and just sort of focus on that and like build report and like relationships with different people I volunteer with. And honestly, one of my favorite, like extra curriculars that I do that I volunteer for is being an FPA ambassador, and I'm not being biased because I am one. I really did learn a lot from it. Like I grew as a person before I was a really a shy and introverted person. The idea of just socializing or public speaking scares me. I'd be like, no, no, thank you. But I thought, you know what, like, if I don't start getting out of my comfort zone now, then when when will I do that. So why not do it now. So that's what I did. I signed up. It was really nerve wracking at first. But honestly, you'll just get like used to it. And so from being an ambassador, I learned a lot of things I learned about like the different researchers and ideas that our faculty members and students are doing. And that really helps me with like my papers, and also to sort of hone in on like what I'm interested in. And also I learned a lot of how to network like networking does sound like scary at first because like what do you do do just like go up to person like what do you talk about and stuff like that. But honestly, if you're really interested in what they do. And you really want to know more from them. Like networking is great and events that I volunteer for, we get people from all different types of backgrounds and so I was able to ask, like, what business lawyers I was able to ask like criminal prosecutors and like even profs from like different countries about like what they think of like a particular research like topic is. And so, and also you can learn a lot of like different opportunities that that's available from them to And so yeah it's like it's really great like all these like soft skills and experiences that you learn in your undergrad can really like spill over to after undergrad into your workplace or whatever path you decided to take afterwards. So definitely my advice would be to get involved like, like you never know like without me volunteering for the Carlton University research research opportunity program I wouldn't have known about it, and I wouldn't have been able to enter and actually like win the competition. And then because from that competition now I am more prepared on what to do, like how to go about with like my honors paper, and also because like you need a supervisor for that. I was able to get some get a prof to supervise with me. And now he's also willing to supervise for my honors paper which again as Tori I've mentioned is really hard to do because they can only take so many people. And so it's really, it's really just great to like get out of your comfort zone and sort of just just learn more about you like university is just not about like learning what you want to go into for your careers, but also just to like know about like who you are and like what you like to do besides studying. And so yeah, so definitely get out there. And I hope that even though everything is online this year I hope you'll make the best of it and also hopefully next year when we do resume that you'll be able to sort of experience Carlton to like the fullest. So thank you so much. Thank you so much to Taylor, Tori and Red stuff for sharing your experiences. The chat for everybody is now open to questions. I like to mention to that if you have any questions that are specific to getting into a course or switching around courses or minors or majors. It's best to talk to an academic advisor for questions such as these. So you can go on to Carlton.ca and get an online appointment with an academic advisor. It's best to meet with them once a semester, at least once a year. They will help you keep on track and get what you're looking for, as well as ensure that you graduate on time. I'm going to answer general questions based on experiences and opinions. So anybody who wants to either unmute their mic and ask the question either to one ambassador or all three, or if you want to put them in the chat you can do so now. While we are waiting for the first few questions to come in. I have a question to pose to our ambassadors. How did you find the workload in person versus online. Were you asking us that. Yeah. Okay. Because I had a few online courses. So the workload, I find can be very comparable. I find that staying on top of it is very different. I think that when you have a class that you kind of have to be there for and you're already on campus. I found I got my readings done because I just be like well, I'm going to go to Roosters and eat some lunch and read my readings or start my paper or ask questions when it's in person. Whereas when you're on online and on your own, it's all on you. And it's a little bit harder with with good motivation and good time management skills. It's definitely it's fine. Some people actually really would rather that it be on your own not be sitting in a lecture for three hours. I don't really love it. I don't mind it depends on the course right but I find the workload comparable, but how to do it and kind of the time management of that can be a little bit different. Yeah, I wanted to add just to reiterate what Tori said. So the workload just you have to make sure that you're essentially following a schedule. I mean, it doesn't have to be the same schedule as it is would be in person lecture full point of online is that flexible environment but it's not so it's a free for all. If you do not stay on top of your classes you will end up watching hours of lectures and it will be extremely overwhelming, and it will seem like as it throws a lot to catch up on. Make sure you watch your lecture, like, at least the day of or as soon as you start like having like multiple lectures to watch it even to lectures to watch is a is a lot and it's over to feel overwhelming. So just stay on track with as if you were to attend class. It's essentially the same. All it is is just changing the environment, you just have to make sure to keep on track with the things. That's it. Yeah, and to add on to that and honestly they both have their own like, like pros and cons, like for example with actual lectures you actually have to get yourself there, and you do it, like, you're not putting things off like they have like the schedules there for you. And you can also like interact with like the prof there, instead of like typing it up or like emailing them afterwards you're actually there in the moment. And with online the benefit is that you can sort of everything like you have more time to do everything like you don't have the commuting, you don't have all that sort of stuff and so you can sort of work on different courses all at like the same time and like sort of meet your own time so let's say an 830 lecture you don't actually have to do it at 830 in the morning. And so if you're a night owl you can focus bet and you can focus better at night, you can just do your courses that and so like they both have their own pros and cons it's really about like, like Taylor said like the key is like time management and sort of planning your courses wisely and not getting too overloaded and putting them off until the end. Very well said thank you guys. So also Tori mentioned she would be reading at roosters. So roosters I put in the chat is a student run cafe that is on campus. So that's what she meant there. Camilla asked how do I utilize office hours since the first semester is online, and Dean Andre has answered with office hours will be held online as well. These office hours will be in the course outlines with the days and times for the online office hours. Those outlines will be released online and see you learn near the end of September or sorry end of August early September. Christie has asked, is there a co-op program for criminology students. Actually Dean Andre has answered that as well in the chat. In the criminology program there's a placement with an outside organization that is available. Not everyone can get a placement though, but there is no co-op program available. So I hope that answered your question, Christie. I also answered as well because I did. Of course. I guess in a sense, well, you get credits for it. So you can choose to do it for a full year or half a year and that will either give you a full credit or half the credit. And you essentially work for a certain amount of hours, it's like eight hours per week and that is like you would be going to class. And at the end, you get that credit and it's in the replacement of a class, you're doing a practical experience, you're working in an organization. It can be people have chosen to work with the RCMP, people have chosen to work with the correctional facilities. I chose to work with the Ottawa Crown Attorney's office, but as was mentioned, not everyone can get placement. So make sure you have good grades and you are aware that this is open because it's a really, a really, really, really great experience. I really highly recommend doing it. It was the cherry on top to my last year at Calton and enhanced my CV a lot. And now I'm going to law school because of it as well. Well, congratulations. Thank you so much. Thanks, starter. So we also had a question from Abigail asking what Taylor's concentration was. Concentration with psychology. So that was also answered. So Alexander asks, do you think it's best to not work the first semester you arrive on campus, regardless when that is, since it's important to make friends first. I can, I worked every year of university. So I can say my experience if you'd like. I think that it is definitely your comfort zone. So like if you're finding that classes are really, really hard and you need to focus on your academics. I don't know your situation, you know, like money wise, but if you can not work and maybe focus more on school, you know, big part on school or make friends volunteer do clubs and societies to make friends. Maybe, maybe like focus on that make sure to put yourself your mental health stuff like that first because school is a lot on its own it's a full time job you're you're doing school. But like I worked every year of university. Some years I worked two jobs. So can it work. Absolutely. But like some of the jobs were a little easier to work school around. I did overnights for some of them I got to do homework on some of them stuff like that. It depends for me. Thank you. Go ahead. And just to add on like I also didn't do like I don't have I didn't have any jobs like in my first year and then I started working in my second third and four. And honestly, again, like Tori said it really depends on like, if you think you are financially able to sustain yourself for the first year without work. If you are then yeah take the time to sort of like get familiar yourself with like campus and like your degree and like know what is like your limit on like course wise and everything and then like just have like have fun in your first year Explorer. And then once you actually find your groove, then in second third and fourth year you can sort of incorporate work into your life. Well said. So just a note we do have seven minutes remaining we have a few questions in the chat. So we're going to try to get to everyone's questions but if not I'll let you know what you can do at the end. So Alex has how do you guys feel about the criminology department cutting ties with policing and prison field placements. For me, in my opinion, my answer would be longer than seven minutes so back out. Totally acceptable to if you don't have. This is a pretty intense question. So what what we can do for Alex is that Alex. My name is Stephanie I sent you the invite for this zoom call you can send me your question and I can pass it to the ambassadors and you guys can have a discussion after the fact as well. So Abigail asked is there a big difference between the law program and the criminology and criminal justice program. Honestly, I'm looking at like the calendars and also talking with my friends. In your first year there's not really a lot of differences we're taking all the same courses. Like I like you all have to like take a loss 1000 and sociology courses psychology. I also took criminology 1000. And so in first year, there's definitely a lot of overlap. So if you, let's say you're in law and then you took like criminology and in law like in the law 1000 you also be learning a lot about like criminal law. But if you found that like, oh, criminology and criminal justice suits better for you. It's really easy to switch out in your first year. So that's an option. Fantastic. So Selma has also asked, what kind of marks do you need to get a placement. I think it's just an overall averaging would be plus to be able to apply. However, the higher grades, the better I believe your chances are getting in because they do look through everyone's like application, I guess, separately individually. Yeah, that would be generally the case and then an academic advisor would also be able to tell you exactly what the cutoff is, but always good to be higher. Sorry, what were you going to say there. Yeah, I was going to say that it from Danette who runs the field placement she says it changes every year depends on the averages and stuff like that. And then, yeah, you don't get paid for those placements for the other question in it. So forget it. You got it. Perfect. Thank you. That's great. So instead of getting paid you would get credit for that placement. How do you manage time with taking part in different clubs. That's a great question. For me, I took clubs that I liked, they weren't like work for me, they were ones that those would be kind of not my me time but those would be my social times, I would go to clubs that I like the people of in this, the atmospheres of and I would enjoy that and that would be like my kind of different school. Obviously you can be in clubs that aren't exactly like that for other reasons but it's definitely hard if you don't enjoy the things that you're spending most of your time in. So, yeah, management would be like cutting out kind of social time separate, like separate social time and integrating that time into the clubs that you're doing or the volunteering you're doing really enjoying them so that you had that time. Also, like a lot of the clubs and societies, they do post like their events like after like school hours so it'll be easier for you. So as long as you are able to sort of make time for it afterwards and stick to your schedule you'd be able to like fit it all in. Fantastic. So we had another question in the chat from Beatrice. Are any of you planning on applying to law school and what is the process like. Taylor has answered that in the chat to Beatrice. I'm attending law school this September so if you would like to discuss, please feel free. Enough time but I can just quickly say it depends if you want to obviously stay in Canada and the states and then the UK there's different things but you would have to study for the LSAT. An undergraduate degree and any field doesn't matter you can apply to law school with any undergraduate degree. But you would need to study for the LSAT which I would say is for certain people it depends how you are good at testing and speed processing but it is a test that you have to study for and learn about it's not like content wise it's more it's basically learning the test than the methodology of the test but it's definitely doable and you can apply to essentially a bunch of schools through like kind of one portal that you get so it's not too complicated. There's also a few ways to bypass the LSAT but I can discuss that as well. More in detail if you want to email me there's a lot more I could say on this because I also did apply to schools in the UK as well. So yeah if you want to email me or you can discuss this more I don't know if there's a lot of time left if anyone else wants to ask questions. There's two more questions in the chat one I can answer quickly because it was asked earlier and then the other I'll ask to our ambassadors. So the first one is about taking a year off school and how the workload has changed. So the workload will stay about the same as it was in person versus online. It's just the mechanisms are different and there are pros and cons to both. And then our final question for the day is the ambassadors is from Michelle. How can you take the most advantage in your first year in making connections and networking. Maybe there's a lot of ways I think actually each of us have though there we kind of have done the same things but I think we've all gotten to them in different ways. But maybe like just being open you know like like going into a well I guess it's online now it's going to say go into a lecture and say hi to your neighbors but okay I guess that's not very anymore but like but yeah like see what Carlton has like gosh be part of clubs like but take time for yourself and yeah I hope that at one point there will still be that social aspect of university really badly because everything I'm thinking of is like residents like go to like things that are around go to black squirrel that's not just off bank like I don't know but but try try to be part of a clubs and stuff and you'll you'll meet even if it's over zoom you know yeah also don't be afraid to just like for example like call places for volunteer if you're interested in volunteering or even emailing just don't be afraid to just email someone and say you're interested and like you know you're you're interested in doing you know whatever they have to offer during this time you there's still many ways to help people and and you know organizations online. In my first year at Carlton I'm from Montreal and I did not know anyone and I and I was very interested in like meeting people so I joined clubs at Carlton but I was also interested in volunteering with individuals who had been recently released from prison so I literally went on Google and type that in on Google in the Ottawa area and I called maybe three different numbers that were open to volunteer for students who hadn't completed their undergraduate degree yet and one answer and I became a volunteer and I worked there for three years I volunteered there for three years literally just by calling I had no idea you know who they were anything and I just read about them online and I just you know you can do it like that and now it's moved to Zoom as well and you know you're there's still ways to don't be discouraged that things are now online there's still ways to participate and do things you're just changing the form it's not like that everything else should be the same it's just they were just changing the environment and it's scary but don't be afraid to just like email or call someone and be like I'm really interested in doing this like how can I help how can I help your organization how can I help the club just yeah and also like through us what I found is that like if you follow like Carlton like on social media especially on Facebook like Husa and like the student experience office they would post like like random events there and then you'll get notified and so like if you just want to make connection with like new people it doesn't have to be through like clubs or societies you can just join some random activities and then you'll meet people there too so yeah and even just today you've already met so many other people so it's always good to reach out. Thank you so much again to our three ambassadors for helping us today really appreciate it again if anybody has any more questions and needs to reach out feel free to reach out to me Stephanie Boss I sent you the Zoom invitation and I can either help you with your questions or pass them on to our ambassadors that we're here today and then they can connect with you and I just wanted to wish you all the best of luck in the upcoming academic year. Thank you very much to Stephanie and to again to our three ambassadors for being here today and thank you to all of you for joining us have a great weekend everyone bye. Bye everybody.