 Hello, hello. All right, everybody. Sorry about that. I had a Had a quick Camera or not camera. I had a quick phone call. Let me check that music make sure it's okay. Okay I'll turn that down a little bit more and we'll get started here great to see a lot of you guys here Tony Escobar great to see here finally for a Actual live show again. We're here all together, right Saroni good to see you Matt D always great to see you too adventure taco. Thank you for showing up today shadow mask. Hey, how you doing buddy? What else we got here? All right Anyway, today. I just wanted to follow up. Let me get the screen readjusted. There we go I'm gonna do a little bit of following up on The latest production which was the tosheba af 24 Or 24 af 45 And uh, so we'll talk about that some today. Hey Belmont I was hoping you'd be able to make it. I saw where you had uh Got rained out so Glad you glad you made it Hey denver morgan good to see you Um, so yeah, I just wanted to go through Talked to she was a little bit more I actually have a different tosheba that you've been watching for a second and unfortunately this one is Just like the other tosheba in one aspect for sure and that is that it needs a remote control to adjust anything And I don't have the remote for this one Man, it's I wish I need to get a universal remote for this one because I really need to turn down the brightness I was even trying to find a um something like a extra on device to try to keep keep this the Brightness down. I didn't really want to manipulate the image too much on like filters for uh encoding for the live stream so Well, I'll try to improve it more and more each time, but we're just stuck with this on this certain level of brightness on this tosheba Uh, but the good thing is this one will switch inputs. It's kind of another odd ball tosheba tosheba has a lot of odd ball CRTs I noticed just weird ones This one for example has a built-in dvd player And the only input on the back is rf And then there's a digital audio out for some reason And that's it coaxial digital audio out and then on the front it has one input for stereo audio and Composite video then a little headphone jack right down in here And then there are quite a bit of buttons on there, but none of those are the menu buttons and Solda gear. I'm sorry. I don't know how to say that hear me. Maybe gear me Solda said try pressing up and down the same time on the volume We'll try that in a second here. Let's do that so, uh But anyway these There's no like menu button on the front there. It's all like up and down for channel volume and then some Skip controls for the dvd player So let's just again a weird one. I really like the tube. It's curved. Uh, I'll get you the model number here Says it's the md 13 p1 from 2004 So let's try that trick. Maybe that'll do it Let's press up and down on volume at the same time and maybe maybe that'll work and uh, unfortunately It's it's uh, that kind of trick works like it's weird. These these TVs are so random The toshiba ones. I've got a bunch of remotes for toshiba's TVs that are other ones that I have and none of them will Work with this tv. They don't actually work with each other. It's kind of like sony's used to so anyway This little toshiba is from the same time period. Uh, but it is not the same level of uh monitor television it's got lower inputs and uh Same same kind of deal. I do not know I have not even opened this particular one up ever to see if there's actually uh lead free solder on that board, but Um, I just wanted to show you kind of an example of another one I'm just having let it run there and what I'm really going to do is go over a couple of things about the last video because I kind of I kind of expected a little bit of this to happen, but There was a quite a few comments and people that wrote me actually uh, basically defending The toshiba 24 af 45 and not liking um The grade that I gave the television set and that was on the last video obviously so Um, I thought I'd just talk about the grading a little bit more and why it ultimately fell so low Um, unfortunately that monitor I keep calling it a monitor. It's not a monitor. It's simply a It's simply a a consumer crt television, but that particular model um The biggest flaw for it is the lead free components and uh so That's that's really the problem With the grade for it and I I was talking a little bit more to lewis about this and That's zezz it says retro and um, we were we were discussing this on catheter a podcast that we just recorded for next week and there's You know these this Lead free solder on these boards it makes a terrible a terrible starting point for the crt and that's just Kind of disappointing so If you're actually looking for a flat screen You know that should be something you're considering is the fact that you're going to deal with lead free solder on that af Board and that model Um, no, I did get the questions that we're going to go through here that I didn't talk about in there about like other sets and things uh, but The reason that grade started off so low Which I gave it a c-minus and you can go back and watch the video if you haven't already And see why I explained it there in the video was literally because of that led free solder for the most part and then also The the Picture quality wasn't great, but at the same time I you know people were upset that it had an issue with it and I graded it still I mean that's one of the first comments here that we'll look at but at the end of the day The most this crt could have ever gotten as far as a grade for me would have been a c-plus Almost a b-minus just because of the lead free solder on the board And again, you might say steve. Why is that the case? Why would you put such a uh big emphasis on that And a simple reason is because of again durability lead free solder Will not last as long as leaded solder and I I wish I didn't have to use lead in Lead free solder. So if you the chemist, I'm not I'm not like a brilliant person knows a lot about chemistry. Unfortunately So I can't give you all the exact Reasonings behind the composition of solder and why you need a little bit of lead in it But you just do for durability purposes if we um, if we look up what the internet has to say we can find all kinds of things where it's going to tell us that lead In solder is going to prevent oxidation from happening and For the most part what happens is the solder just breaks down quicker And and over time it'll break down and then it can have cold solder joints And when that happens, you'll have all kinds of problems And I got a lot of you guys in the comments are talking about it. Yeah and so When a company uses that lead free solder, yeah, it might have been a selling point that Hey, we're in 2005 when that tv was new. Maybe they were like we're going to be green. We're tosheba green And we're not going to use lead in the production of this particular crt And we're going to go all lead free and it doesn't really matter because they weren't planning on those tv's last in 10 years so When we get to the point where we're at 20 years of lifespan on these tv's sure my Unit that I reviewed may have been a more extreme case But I hard I'm going to have a hard time feeling that like in five years from now people are going to be telling me I was wrong And that this leaded lead free solder board is an actual good design and it's you know, I was completely wrong if I am I'm Won't admit it, but I do know that people who use solder in military applications have told me before that When they do that they do Have to use lead in their solder to actually Do any kind of project for the military Okay, so guys, I'm going to run here through here and we're going to We're going to go through somebody's comment so I can kind of back up because I know that the we'll come across some that people were Critical which is fine. I'm being critical of this tv But I just want you to know it's all from a good place and good experience and There's there's another thing and I explain this more in the podcast that I I think Things about crts look better Than you might and I know that other people You know, again, it's the whole thing. Do you like curved glass or flat glass more me? I'm always going to prefer curved glass So that's a kind of a bias I already have against flat glass tubes and So I I judge them harsher because I'm I'd rather see the curve on the tube personally that doesn't mean that's the right answer, you know That means if you like it you can Say hey, I like the flat screen more and I don't agree with steve on that. No problem All right, so john vandalin Constructively, I would say that you can't really say it has downsides and models of flyback is shot It is just this one sample that has a problem And of course he wanted to reiterate that the video was fun and good content. I would just call deep dive The one sample not a review per se Which it is a little bit difficult to say that And if it was something where I wouldn't have really given it a grade if it was something where it did not have that lead-free solder But I did again go in and look at other people's versions of this They did have tubes that could go darker and the picture did look a lot better But there's still always the trouble of having lead-free solder on that board. That's not going to change anything That's never going to change Even if the parts are good, so Yeah, I'm not going to make it a habit of saying that you know, this is grading is all you know This is again subjective. It's all just For an individual set anyway Um, I'm just gonna go briefly through some of these Sergio Osario Hey, Steve, I need help with the pvm repair If I join patreon can I ask you some questions there and the answer is yes That's exactly what patreon is for you get a direct dm to me and you get to access to a lot of other things Not just that but You do get a dm to me to ask me any kind of questions you want to right away Um, all right abes games and skates Oh boy, those discharges were scary And it will take place every time Certainly one of the scariest repairs you've done mr. Retro tech I enjoyed the way he presented the sections and lastly the grading system was clear And concise all right, so yeah, that's kind of the way I felt about it. I'm glad that it was interpreted that way by some people Um, so I really enjoyed that. I mean, I'm just gonna go through here if I respond to you on the video It might as well give you a heart So a lot of people have this I have at 24 af 44 I use it for my tate setup and love the thing. That's cool Oh adventure taco. You're here right there. That's funny. You just said it again in the Live chat. That's awesome timing, huh? Excuse me guys, my voice sounds a little crackly. Uh, it is allergy season here And the last 24 hours it's really been, um pollinating my sinuses All right, we've got Mcbanjo mic I got this exact set for free a few years ago or a few years back to use with my mr Since my sony didn't have component inputs Mine has some geometry issues and reds are too strong But maybe I can prove that now with the access to the menu. You should be able to do that Um, but again saying it doesn't have the potential to look really great I'm Again guys, you can make it look great. I mean you can't make any of these Normal regular crts look like a pvm or something you can get close though So um, again, I don't want like again, I still graded it kind of low but I understand, you know And um, let's see what else we got here got This was a neat watch from jocelyn joe. I have a 24 afx 54 cinema series that I used for a while And uh, I found a kv 27 fs 100. I'm looking to hang on to the tosheba as a bank as a backup Thanks. Yeah, I would You know, this is a television that I said in the video I wouldn't add it to my collection Because it's 24 inches and I've got something to fit me in that In that format, but if that's something I wanted Oh guys, I just don't know what to say again. I'm just so harsh on this thing about the solder because Unfortunately again, it's it's a difficult it's a difficult fix high level stuff Dave bladegun saying hey to brutus, of course brutus is finally in the video now um Someone was asked if I tried a different console Which was a good question and yeah, I try a lot of um different consoles different inputs There's a lot of things especially in a video. I tried to really tightly edit yesterday's video and it's Uh, by doing that there was a lot of stuff that I chopped out that Would have just been kind of redundant I didn't it was already a 20 plus minute video and I appreciate everybody watching As much as they did of it, uh, you know, I didn't really want it to turn into a 45 minute video with a lot of redundancy And again, it was a difficult monitor crt to shoot anyway Anytime you have it's the same thing with the one we're trying to look at now. Sometimes you'll see The screen is just too bright On there and it makes the picture hard to even show on a camera at all All right, so samsung s10 asked if Wouldn't adjust to the g2 voltage on the flyback produce the same effect as increasing brightness and contrast or you could say would possibly Produce the same effect. However, you are literally increasing voltage on the flyback when you do that So by doing that you're sending more voltage into the system and Could cause a wear and tear to go down faster Uh, even though you may be sending in the brightness. I don't know what the exact difference on that would be Between cranking up one as the other I will tell you that I did try that. It didn't make a difference and The reason I left in the part about Out Using the brightness and Contrast in the video was that's something that I could do with this problem outside of getting inside the crt because you saw How many how bad that discharge was on that tube? Um, I would not I would prefer if people could make that kind of adjustment without opening their tube I mean that Who knows what if there was a short and somehow you got shocked Messing around back there could be possible. It feels like with that set All right See what's going on in the chat guys. I hope you're all doing well today Again, we're just hanging out doing some follow-up to yesterday's Toshiba video I'm taking a break here and See if there's anything I mean if you guys have any personal experiences you want to talk about on it Yeah Okay, it's just some good good conversation going on Hey Mr. Souter good to see here jt. Souter in the house p o 17. Thanks for coming in dpx Demo Kirby good to see you too um So the the thing about the Toshiba too if you wanted to know it had Uh in the sub menus you could set the brightness and the sub brightness And sub contrast you could set all that minimum and maximum levels also Uh, so if you wanted to you could go in and I didn't really make that video to be an exact Calibration demo or anything it was more of a overview of it. Hey Tony thank you for the tony eskibar. Thank you for the 499 super chat Say totally agree with your assessment and reasoning. Thank you Um, I appreciate it. Okay So, yeah, it was I mean I don't want to like Make people feel bad if they own it because I feel like if you own it you like it. That's awesome And I don't want you to throw it out after my Review of it either Especially if yours works better than the one I mean I just worked on that one and I was talking with the owner who's try actually for my life in gaming Some people asked about this tv. Is it the one from my life in gaming? Say model. It's literally the model that's It belongs to try so um I didn't want I told him the same thing only I was trying to work through it and I thought it was dying I wanted him to keep it And make sure that I could get it to where it was least usable and Again when I was showing you that video footage and stuff It looked really Harsh on your eyes in a darker room But if you were in a really bright environment, it actually looked a lot better Than it did. It's just I did get some footage and throughout the video of a more bright environment All right, let's see. Oh, I got some other people here about cab. Thank you. Just so they wanted to say Thank you for the videos great source of knowledge. I appreciate it. Thank you everybody and uh So that's that's just a little bit more thoughts on that. I do let's roll through some more of these things. There's some good Good stuff here. Toshiba's really popular in brazil in the early 2000s They have an aggressive marketing campaign focus on reliability and unprecedented five-year warranty Thanks to that people actually believe Toshiba's to be more reliable than even other brands Just summarizing this a little bit as you clearly see far from being reliable. It's the brands I mentioned above but It's an oddity that it happened here and And made to she was uh extremely common here. Well, that's actually a pretty cool story. I like the Thank you for this Suga grin, I think it's Suga Garin um The 32 inch wide flat crt from philco Sadly, it's not hd Uh, I looked at the tube was from samsung And didn't have a lot of results. That's a cool thing about I've actually seen some philco things Not not very common anymore. Um, it's really really Fun. Hey, june. Hey, james. Boone. Thanks for coming show Dario novella Thank you Pixage and pixels everybody. Thanks for coming. Yeah My life in gaming they've been my friends for a long time man. They were really great To me some of the first people to ever reach out to me were Corey and try and then also um, of course bob Without you know their help and Media they they introduced me to so many people I can't be thankful enough to them So i'm always glad to help them out and work on their stuff all right red 91 this is my daily driver ct crt these days I actually have a second one with under 500 hours put away as well Whoops. I'm sorry Let's see Fantastic set awesome video. Yes. Okay, so that's I'm glad awesome that I tried to make this video enjoyable even though the fact that the grave might be harsh to some people in the set Michael mitchell all crt is redangerous is dangerous if not treated with respect Uh, I don't get this video Just replace the flyback and you're good. You can take them apart, but it's hard. I mean there's no where There's no where i'm gonna find this replacement flyback But I appreciate uh, you know you writing that long type thing, but it is true that crt's are dangerous And obviously Um, you shouldn't do it if you're not willing to take on that danger And be shocked or you know be prepared. That's what I always tell people just be prepared to be shocked And then you're more surprised when you don't get shocked, right? Bob is great. Also. Yes. I love bob actually I wrote an article for this crt if you haven't seen that it's over on retro rgb an article to go with this video articles more focused on the secrets of the set like the Once we could talk about for a second the two ways to get into the menus and also the stupid velocity modulation Yeah, oh, yeah, just happened to have a tosheba lead free solder flyback hanging around that's still good Right belmont hey basil um Basil was asking about the fw 900. I did not but I have another So here's the thing I have another uh fw 900 coming in the shop supposedly in two weeks time This one works and is being serviced. So that should be a good example for me to make a great video with also I have Three quarters of the parts I need to make a connection Device that I can use with my crt tube tester and then I can verify Whether or not that d24. I'm sorry the fw 900 tube is good or bad because if it's a bad tube There's nothing I can do about it But if it's a good tube, I can do a lot with that So we'll find that out. I have to make this um I have to make this adapter for my Tester and uh, yeah, it's the hp one. Hey body below biscuit butter. Thank you for the 499 super chat. I appreciate it Occasionally random vertical jumpiness on a 32 a 60 Know these know if these use lead free solder doesn't matter if the tomb is warmed up or not. So, um That you know that could be anything from What we talk about today as Being solder even if it's not lead free There can still be times when a I see the like a vertical I see That could be causing that issue Like a transistor and those get so hot That those would be one of the first type of parts that would have a problem I do not know for sure that the a 60. That's a different line um I don't know whether that Uses the lead free solder also. There's a very good possibility. It doesn't uh, so that That to me it could be that I see it could also be Deflection capacitors in your vertical deflection block causing that Uh, but that's that's that's what I would first check out And when you open that Set you'll see if there's lead free. It's written on the board. It'll say pb Which is the um, what are the the periodic element Classification for I can't think right for lead All right. Demo Kirby asked did I see the scratch chip repair of glass method from gadget? uk 164 I did see that Little clip that was awesome. Um, have you tried it? Has anybody tried it? I haven't yet tried it. I did want to Eventually try it If you go over to his channel, he's got a nice video showing what he did and uh, it looks like he got good results Bob and I were talking about that when he released the video Very cool stuff. Um, hopefully if that's a real solution That's one thing I'd really like to try out is that and I also still need to try I Work and work through uh, what andy king and john lineman did and that's put a Darker overlay on a crt. I'm just not sure of the right one yet there was recently You know, there's recently a 14 l5 that was sold on ebay for $600 shipped But it had a big gash in the overlay That would have been a perfect one to try to re Do a new overlay on top of if you remove it And uh, let's see. Thank you, steve. I enjoyed this tv about seven years without an issue Never worked on a crt and didn't want the extra hazards of discharging at that. Sorry that guy's that comment right there is infinity and That's a very good point. If you died again, if you don't Need to get inside this television. Uh, I don't Want you to get inside this television while it's running. I don't care now I I don't think there's a problem if you want to get in there and remove that Velocity modulator because I think that makes makes it look bad. I think that this set I have here may have velocity modulator But I need to actually service it To find that out But yeah Stay safe out there All right Would I review a super flat from panasonic gao series? Um, I'd love to so here's Here's a brief idea of what I had about a way to get some more crt reviews without actually having to Have the crt's here That are huge And I was thinking what about one of the conventions that I go to The one in Tennessee if I had I probably have the good opportunity to set things up there where I could Take the uh I could take the crt's that are actually at the show And I could bring them to a private room Sounds dirty I could take the little crt and charm charm the crt a little bit and Buy it a couple capacitors And uh invite it back to the private room where I can videotape it And take the clothes off make the shell off Get inside and look at the undercarriage This is weird sounding but I thought that while I was On location Those those shows have about 50 crt's on average and I was why these are things I wouldn't these are crt's I'd never see anywhere else and I'm like man if I just took this Out while no one's using it slow time on the first day of the show and set it in the room And spend an hour videotaping it open it up Doing a little bit. I wouldn't ever do any full servicing, but I would take it apart We could look at the boards Um So yeah, me too. I'm trying to figure out a good Definitely getting a little weird there fellas. Sorry about that And uh show that's That's one One idea I came up with I think that would be really good because one one of the things I did last year was I went out to texas and when I was there I was able to review that 40 inch crt, which I've never seen again Oh, I basal. I did not ever get to review that htm 1990 r. I'm sorry. I did Get to do a little work on one, but it was so backed up at that time. I had to actually um I had to actually just Send that back to the customer before I could actually do the Review on it or anything and I have not done Like in-depth reviews like this one. I mean most of the time they were Much shorter less detailed Not not a concise video. I'm gonna just keep Yeah, it was it was nothing that you could lift you could go back and watch It's one of the if you go click on like my channel click up videos It'll be the most second most popular one on the channel um It's a shows the 40. It's very short shows the 40 inch crt There was two of them and they're now at a game shop in the museum lent them to a game shop in Uh, austin no houston. Sorry not austin houston texas Um, there's a retro video game store store with a video wall now And the biggest part of the video wall is the 240 inches pictures So there's the problem with those was keeping the purity straight on them though Anything would cause the magnetism to go wonky and you'd get a big purple splotch on the screen All right, my mickey mickey b86 said he had the 27 inch version of this he was underwhelmed The speaker was pretty poor Uh It said that yeah here this this would be a hard I'm just summarizing a little bit of what he's saying, but it's kind of it is kind of a hard sell on this crt to sell it as a good one when it has If it didn't have component Man, it would be a really You know, it would be really low grade like if it didn't have component Imagine if it was just composite only and there's a flat screen like that. I mean you would I'm not saying you'd get rid of it, but it wouldn't be something you'd never be looking for Poor console kits says he needs a new tv Looks behind his tv Brings his heart. He don't need a new tv Justed until That puppy dies. Okay I got the 32 a 43 I was wondering if the vm edge enhancement Is there or not and how to turn it off. That's something we're going to find out tgamer 91 I'm not sure about that, but I have that tv And that's actually one of my favorite toshivas is the turn 32 a 43 I got that my mom bought it new In the early 2000s and I've kept it and it's just awesome. I love it One of my favorites for a consumer set. So that's one of the things I like about the toshiba stuff Is I've got this one which we can I can review at some point And do a good review on that as well as that other toshiba 32 a 43 which is a great CRT like I can't say that's as good as like a d-series or anything got component input stereo audio Lots lots and it's it seems durable But I'm going to have to open up and look at the circuit boards to confirm that All right, everybody. Thanks. Again, we're going to hang out a little bit longer I've been alive for about 40 minutes 130 is my local time So I have to be out of here in about an hour's time to to go pick up my daughter from school, but If you guys have any questions about the a45 let me know or anything I think it's a I think it's a It's a fun idea I What's What's puzzling to me is what if you find And this is one one of the things I want to see like what if the day woo Flat screen to crts. What are they like? What is that samsung super slim really like I've gotten close short videos of them But it would be so much Better to get into the hardware And see what is actually going on in there And the great thing about this to shiba was I had a lot of time to actually go and research And find these cool extra things like the velocity modulation stuff as well as the The two service menus and then one more thing I needed to mention The actual Hours counter is in like hexadecimal. It's not in straight hours Um Oh, yeah, sorry guys to look uh fill lines. I don't Man, if you send me dms on facebook or instagram, I'm sorry. I'm just those are the two social medias I never have any time for and yeah if you um Honestly, most of that stuff is just you either have to catch it in live streams or question in live streams or um You can send them Through discord or patreon or something or twitter That's the only thing I really use Okay, uh Yeah, that's see that's what I've heard. I've heard the There's those samsung flats and stuff. I don't know. I've never Messed with one like I've I've seen them at the shows Uh, I've also seen some Some tv's that I like fell in love with Uh My last time I was at the show. There was this fissure tv. The brand was fissure It was a beautiful shadow mass curved every angle tube Just amazing I um I love I loved the look of this television. It was stereo audio and I like I I was so excited to get there and film it This last year um I I started to think about this last year how um, I just lost my train of thought there anyway, sorry but the uh I was trying to re-comments and stuff But anyway, I wanted to try to do this where I wanted to film that fissure tv and I got there last year and it stopped working It was dead like it was full on dead And I was laughing saying I should have brought my tools so I could have fixed it for him But I didn't have him there Yeah, I see the thing is is when you Yeah, it's like fissure price without the price. It was weird and it was like a bird emblem Matt D Do I have a favorite retro game? Pixing on pixels ass you know I do have a couple favorite retro games One of the favorite games that I had to have It's probably like chronos trigger. I don't really play it that much anymore, but it's one of the last ones. I actually went back and beat um I just love Working on the tv's more than playing the games, you know I know it sounds crazy, but to me that is the game now and uh I love them Uncle funk 999 was asking if I thought an olympus ov 203 at $800 is a good price It's kind of like a box of worms there because Um, it depends where you live. It depends what If you can find anything else. I mean, that's a good monitor, but for $800 um That would be kind of the high end for not I'm not trying to say high end because they're they'll definitely sell for more than that but It depends it's all condition dependent You know um, so I don't think that's a bad price $800 if it works good looks good and you want it and it that's a reliable monitor But at the same time um You can get lucky sometimes if and and find them Recycling places, but 20 inches are hard to find so I can't I can't fault anybody for paying that Uh, it's really hard for me to find them and and and service them and offer them ever for sale I can't I mean it's been a long time since I've had 20s come in the shop that We're from any kind of load. I bought. Yeah, the 240p test suite is the best game race oroni That is the only game that matters PS2 look better on a crt. Man, that's a hard one So you got to have a good tv that looks good in 480i because the vast majority of your games are going to be in 480i however I still think 480i looks better on a crt personally. So I would say yes Now if you go to anything above that it will still look better on a crt Yes, but it needs to be a progressive crt of some sort. So you're going to have to use some kind of Scalar device like I recommend a gbsc all-in-one aio device connected that to a Cheap vga monitor if you wanted the cheapest experience you could obviously go up from there and use a Better equipment than that like a retro tank too if you'd like to Just picked up a 203 here for 700 plus tax um, yeah, I I bought one like for 550 On a deal on ebay a couple weeks months ago and it just showed up in 100 pieces Which I kind of knew was going to happen So If I see him for that price 500 bucks, I would buy it if it was in my area all day and If I really needed it I'd buy it for 800 if it was clean if it was in good shape and I needed it. Yes And again, I don't think that's unfair for somebody Hey del good to see you man So del I'm about to uh, finally go in and finish rebuilding that CRT tube tester. I got all the parts here for that these Change out the resistors on there with modern ones And I also have about three quarters of the parts to build the universal adapter So I want to do that and some Streams coming up probably probably not going to be a real video about that But it will be some stream material and then And then we can add that to The artillery A nice spruced up thing. All right mick Sturminator three I've got a 20 af 43 and I people were saying to unplug that sharpening feature without Discharging the anode cap good thing. I haven't gone through with it looks pretty good as it is in my opinion That's fine. Like I say if you'd like it, there's no point in messing with it. I just didn't like it Yeah, the b and k del it's the uh Oh gosh, it's the earliest one you can use that's worth a darn. I can't remember the model number off the top of my head It's before the 470. It's like 467. I think It's the one I did a video on before where I just reflowed all the solder and did some testing with it with a connection That I was able to put together from a neck board Epas vox the man the myth the legend Say I have it hd set from the teams tosheba With a similar jitter problem I'm going to try upping the brightness. I hope it works. Like I said, I hope it works any time I hear that If this any of these things can help save this problem for people, it's awesome Genji you were able to pick up a kv 20 fv one two for a hundred bucks. It's a gem Absolutely good stuff there. Oh, well duck man was asking. What are the the biggest differences is working on a crt television versus a computer monitor? Generally the computer monitor is going to have more shielding more hardware inside more voltage sometimes in some of the parts bigger capacitors Generally a little bit more work than just the standard You know Sorry Television set, but then there can be some really complex television sets also I think if you go back and check out well, there's the two the two 13 inch sonys that I worked on They looked almost identical from the outside. They used the same shell But one was an m10 and one was a tr 28 and The tr 28 at like twice as much hardware inside of it twice as much so it was it was kind of Crazy to see how much more hardware there wasn't there Have I ever seen a bno be at basil asked? I have not I'm going to have to go visit My buddy john lineman or Lewis or uh heck even martin Heinfeldt needs to go drink a beer with him and Pick through the wasteland of the bno television. I really would love one of those things This things are the so the best-looking crt's I've ever seen in my life at least from a perspective of marketing Reminds me of the I will I would consider that marketing level and the feel of a bno It's like the neo-geo of crt's Yeah, pc monitors do tend to have a lot more shielding electron gun gaming They tend to have a lot more shielding on them Usually you open it up and it's all shielded and then you take the shielding off and then you Get into a bunch of circuit boards tons of circuit boards generally have bigger power supplies things like that demo Kirby, what's the oldest crt I have ever worked on? Yeah, I don't I have one crt that's like those solid-state crt's that I tried to work on and it is a nightmare It's like one of the old ones from early 80s and it's got uh The circuit boards that don't make any sense basically hardly marked So I I couldn't really figure out what the heck was going on. I close it back up. I think that earlier generation is just something. I'm not I'm not Keen on yet at all. You can go there's a great channel of a somebody who just works on just the older stuff too named shango 66 and that Those are all old sets things that I've just blown away by because I get into those sets and it looks wild um So I would say Early 80s would definitely be the ones I've actually restored By 81 or something would be the earliest I'd imagine So let's see if there's anything else here. I might uh Hang out a little bit longer try and my quarry for my life in gaming As the brands have has these brands of crt's See I told you somebody somebody would even Say that it's funny Well, funny. You should say that because it is their crt Um other people asking about other brands of crt's under and heard of I may have heard of a dura brand But never really worked on one of those Are you going to replace the flyback again? No, I don't have the flyback to replace it with Oh, okay guys, so I don't I Don't really see anything in here. That's too Crazy And I got a quit accidentally hitting down votes on people's stuff I heard somebody I have to good comment peterson custom baits LLC Honestly, I was excited to see this review and shocked at the results or spectrum knowledge and understanding of set at component level I hope you try another one in the future because these are thought of as some of the best-looking consumer sets in some circles See these are a lot of these kind of A lot of these kind of comments, but I was not the only one who had blooming issues Man So like I said, I'm it doesn't hurt me. I love that People have opinions on this stuff. So thanks Thanks everybody to Uh for just doing all that, you know, it's like It's it's fun to me to see so many people actually interested in this set and other sets and everything All right guys, so let's uh Let's call this one a day. I'm I'm gonna try to come back and stream with all of you later this week I do not know exactly when but Uh, maybe friday. Maybe sooner than that. We'll see Um, I hope all of you have a great week And um, I will definitely see you Next time I there's a lot more comments there, but I could sit here all day and go through them and Then i'll be in trouble Because I forget my daughter at school Anyway, thanks again everybody. I really appreciate all the feedback on the videos and uh, I'll see you all in the next stream