 Big shit, big shit, big shit, it's a unique hustle nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit, name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy, E-C-E-O, and I'm here with a lovely, amazing official, Mr. Mako, what's going on? Not, not my dad, Walker. What's going on, man? Not, not. Say, man, we got a special guest in the house today, man. This guy right here, man, y'all already know who he is, I'm not gonna say he don't need no introduction, I just know that when I started Boss Talk, he was one of the first guys, I was like, I gotta get this guy on the show, man, cuz he a boss, man. Check it, man, my boy Carl Crawford is in the building, man, just happy to have you, man. Hey, man, I like that control, man, who made that? Hey, there we go, there we go, there we go, that's Exo Music, man, Exo, she is fine, man. Yeah, man. I'm gonna be, yeah, Exo, and we don't- You know Exo? No, yeah, you probably know, she got to soul B-King, she been around a long time. Oh, yeah? Yeah, she been doing her thing, man, it's not Exo, man, man, she dope. She go hard, she go hard. Yeah, everybody be like, oh, she sound like Megan Thee Stallion, she rap a whole lot. Yeah, I'm like- Everybody, yeah, I'm like, what the hell, man, she actually was around before that. Oh, why? Is it a dialect or is it what? She was just first to do it, you know what I'm saying? But Exo was down, she was the first to get notification, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Noticed. Texas, that's how we all talk. Texas, man. Yeah. So, when you think about Carl Crawford, you know what I mean, and who he is, the man, you know what I mean, the legend, you know what I'm saying? No, I wanna know, I wanna know about Carl Crawford before he was, well, you were always born Carl Crawford, but before the baseball player, before all of that growing up in Fifth Ward, I wanna know what it was like. Oh, it was just like, you know, any other kid who didn't have as many opportunities to do what you wanted to do, but you just make the best of what you had available, and sport seems to be one of the things that you can gravitate to, where you can stay out of trouble and, you know, build something, you know, you just looked for any glimpse of hope, you know, you just stuck with that. He had siblings? Yes, I do. How many? One. Boy and girl. Brother, sister. Old or younger? Younger brother. Okay, so you had to set the pace, because he was looking up to you. I had to be the older brother, you know, and I did a real good job of that, so I brought him along, I made him play every sport I played, and, you know, we was always together. You made him, or he wanted to? Well, I kind of like, at times here, I don't think he wanted to, you know what I'm saying? But like baseball, you know, basketball at times, he wanted to, he probably didn't wanna play football as much. Okay, because one thing I realized about black kids is like, you either wanna be a rapper or play sports. Right. One or the other, and I'm like, what's up with that? I think that's like, the only things that they see, you know what I'm saying? As far as like, if you go to a school and have like, you know, show up where you can learn how to draw or do what, do stuff like that, I don't know how much that stuff is available. You know, it's right there at a basketball court in every neighborhood, or it's other kids that wanna just pick up a game of football on the streets, I don't even know if they do that anymore. And baseball really is probably the toughest thing for like, black kids to do, but you know, and then they look on TV and see the rappers or, you know, or the drug dealers around the neighborhood that might look like rappers and act like them, and it seems like that's the easiest thing. And I think it's what they do in these schools too, because I know that certain schools offer better things for kids, because even like, I know that we had, I don't remember his name right now, but he came on here and it was a school in Duncanville. They now offer engineering. So he can start learning how... You talking about Lodezy? Lodezy's son. Son, Ziggy made it. Ziggy made it. In school. And you know, back in the days, they didn't offer that stuff like that. So I'm loving that they're introducing certain things, but only into certain schools. Yeah, yeah, it was like that. I mean, it was a kind of, when I was in high school, you had certain high schools that had like an engineering program, a magnet program, but you had to be zoned to it, or I guess past your chest to get in. Yeah, I think that kind of stuff. That should be in every school. Yeah, it should be every school. It should be to everybody. And we should be able to like learn from it, but hopefully one day we can get like that. What about the rumors, man? Fifth Ward, coming up in Fifth Ward, it's supposed to be hard according to Scarface, the way it would depict it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Fifth Ward is a rough area. It still is. You know, the movie Jason Leary. Yeah, I remember that. You know, in our neighborhood. So it's no different. Like I say, you just come up, grow up tough, you know what I'm saying? Being hard playing sports, you either got the option to, you know, go bad or go good. You know, I just wanted better for myself. I saw guys like George Foreman come out of my neighborhood and make it. So once you see one person who can do it, you know, you feel it. Did you say George Foreman? Yeah, he's from our neighborhood. You can't say that. What you mean? Man, he from Marshall, Texas. Man, look. He being both places. He might have moved out there, but he was, was he born in... I seen him at JCP in Marshall, Texas. So I think he got both places. I really do. Where was he born? He born in Marshall, Texas. Yeah, because all his relatives and his family members, you know, he was born in Houston. But he, but he definitely, I don't know if he, was he born there? I don't know if he was born there. Look at that. Look at that. I don't play with y'all. Listen, listen, listen. The story of George Foreman in my neighborhood, he was born around Civil War. You know, like, hey man, he was like a terror runner through that. From what I heard, you know, I heard he used to turn people upside down and shake the change out of me. Oh, really? He running around and terrorizing people because he wasn't from there. I see why, I see why he ain't been boxing. But at the end of the day, I was still as a 10-year-old and I've seen him put up into my neighborhood. You know, like, I see, I actually saw him physically with my eyes. So with that being said, you know. And that's awesome because to see somebody who looks like you, who is going somewhere in their lives, you know what I mean? So that gave you like a role model that you could look up to. Right. He was born in Marshall, Texas, age 72. Oh, okay. So he, but he moved to Houston. Oh, okay. I didn't know he was born there. I didn't know he was born there. Because I'm from down there. I'm like, we used to hold on to that. And matter of fact, you got a daughter named Georgia Farming in Jefferson. Well, all the kids named George. That is crazy. All the boys out there in your neighborhood, right? Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like I said, you know, I used to always hear, you know, just George Farming, my cousin, my cousin. But you never seen him. And then he pulled up one day in a red push. And when I seen that, that was like a moment for me. You know what I'm saying? I opened it, right? Yeah. I was like, you know, it was the reddest car I ever seen in my life. And I just remember saying, you know, I want to have that type of car. Don't, man. So were you raised by your mom and dad? I was raised by my mom and her boyfriend growing up. You know, I saw my dad whenever we wanted to go visit. But you know, pretty much. How was it not having your father in your life as a kid? How did that affect you? Well, you know, I guess it was so normal to everybody. Yeah. All my friends was like that. None of us had. I was dead in my house. So, you know, like I said, you know, still from a young age. So I still had like had a father figure. Like a male figure around. You know, it's just with my dad. So you weren't like rebellious. You're like, you're not my dad. You can't tell me nothing. Yeah, yeah. Because, you know, he raises for such a young age. So, you know. Okay, that's good. So who was at the games? Who was at the baseball games earlier? Who was at the football games earlier? Was it your stepdad or was it your dad? At the baseball games, to be honest with you, nobody came to learn. No. I used to think that I was the only one. You made it. He made it. And I was really like, that was my reason for saying I didn't really make it. No. Because nobody came. Nigga, you're special. Nobody came. Nobody came. Nobody just started going to my games until like high school when they when they knew that it was going to go down. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, I didn't want them there anyway. It made me nervous. Nervous. Man. When did you start taking baseball serious? Mmm. How old were you? I took, I took everything serious. You know, if it was a challenge. You were that kid. Yeah. Yeah. I took everything. I played three sports. You know what I'm saying? Like being, you saved a 50- Tated basketball, baseball, and so forth. You know what I tell people though? I always tell people, and my son included, when he told me he was going to the NFL, when he turned 18, that he told me I'm going to the NFL. But he didn't even go to the college that even depicted that he was going to the NFL because they didn't have a football team. But anyway, I told him, I said, most cats that's going to the NFL played all sports to me. They were good at everything. That's what I told him. I said they could do anything. They could play basketball. They could run track. They could play football. Anything they done, it was something extraordinary about that person and their athleticism. Right? Yeah, pretty much. You know, that's like, I played all three sports. See? And growing up in Jamaica, we used to always say, because I did basketball, but I used to always say that, especially people with left-handed, because you had that, yeah, you had that advantage being a lefty compared to a right-hand. You know what I mean? I don't believe that. I don't believe that. You ain't used to go out in the lefties, man. Exactly. Yeah. Southpaw and boxing. See? So... It is something different, right? So you are naturally left-handed or are you trained yourself to be left-handed? I'm naturally left-handed. Me and Obama. It's right there on August 4th. I'm on August 5th. So, dang, that's dope. Leo's in the building. All... Yeah, yeah. We're all Leo's. All of them a day. 23rd of July. 26. We're three days apart. At YouTube? Oh, and he is a Leo too. That's crazy. Hold on. And my daughter is the 15th of August. She's Leo. My son is the 19th of August. Oh, man. My brother is 19th of August. We got all Leo's. Yeah, that's what's going on. I'm telling you. It's crazy. Ooh, man. I love the film. Man, it's too many kings in the room. I don't like it. Everybody's got to have a win in the conversation, right? No, but, um... So, with you playing all those sports, let's fast forward to high school. You had gotten scholarships for each sport. Uh-huh. Why baseball? Because, you know, I'm from Fifth Ward. I'm from... You know, my liver conditions aren't the best. You know, I want to always get my family out. So, hey, man, they offer me a million dollars when I was 17 years old. Wow. And I don't, you know... Let's stop right there. A million dollars. A million and a half to be... Boy, nigga. And you... I'm so glad. The schools ain't go off of that at all. What was the first thing you bought? What was the first thing you bought? I went to my mama's house. That's it, right there. What was the first thing you bought for yourself? I bought a car, you know. Most likely. I didn't get bounced up there. You know? Navigate on trains, deans, you know? Okay, if you had to go back, knowing all the things you know now, go back to that age, how would you do something different? Would there be anything you would have done different, even with the money spending? Of course, you're still going to buy your mama's house first. You know, just afterwards, you know, it's the spending you do after you get the stuff that you need, you know? So pretty much you're 17, you know? You or your mom never had this kind of money, so you don't know what to do. It's going down. You know? It's going down. Everybody in the hood talking, too. Everybody talking like, they got it. They got it over there. You got... We got to move different. Because I always feel like this. Because I always feel like this. You got to move quick. I literally moved. No, my parents... As soon as I got drafted, I moved them out of the neighborhood. Yeah. You moved them to the country? Like, consider to us. Because we, you know, we had never... We weren't used to going nowhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A few X's up the freeway with my country. Man. No, because I always feel like, when you hear a million dollars, you know, everybody's jumping up and happy for a million dollars. Right. But I feel like you can run through that money all the time. Oh, you can. Oh, you can. You can. I don't think... I have no doubt in that. You can run through it real quick. Because of taxes and everything. How did you deal with that? Like, when you first got it, did you have, like, somebody to educate you? I had a financial advisor. Advisor? I had a financial advisor. So I was good, you know, and all those areas, you know, just had to learn how stuff goes, you know, it's just automatically... Sack. I just thought about Sack. Sack, so he went and bought everybody a car. He lost everything. When he went to the bank, he was negative. He was like, damn. When he got his deal, you know what I mean? Yeah, you know, it's just you want to help out your family members. Everybody coming for you. They coming for you. You know, you want to try to do everything and you can to help everybody. They might have gave you a dollar or something. You know? Yeah. That's why you have to realize that you can't be like that with everybody. You have to make some more decisions and save your money. Yeah. Because as soon as you can't give them, they're mad. Oh, the first time you tell them, no? The first time you say, no? Highly upset. They forget about all them yes times. That's straight out the door. That's one thing I always say. I say, if I ever won a lottery, I will put that money up and I wouldn't touch it for a whole year. I'll wait. No, I'm touching it. I'll wait. I'll wait. You won't be with me doing that. We ain't ever going to spend something. Yeah. Because you don't know if you're going to be here a year later. You don't do it like that. We blessed to be here now. Right. If you think about all the friends in Fifth Ward and all the friends in Jamaica that you've lost, you'll start thinking different about that whole year because you just never know. So you can't take life for granted. Especially friends of your own age. Yeah. People that from 35 up, you start going to funerals a lot. Right. You know what I mean? So you've got to be very, very different with your time. You know what I'm talking about? I'm not going to wait no year. Me either. So when you, and I want to just ask you, you know, like baseball was what you chose. Do you feel like, you know, if you had to go back, what do you think would happen if you did? And we just hypothetically talking football or basketball. Was it basketball? You know, basketball. What happened? Was it good? I mean, them dudes took you out, man. What position? I was the number one quarterback in the nation. I signed with the team. They missed me at Nebraska. Nebraska was ranked number one in the country in 1999. I signed as a quarterback to go play. I played Pungo and I had to actually give up the second half of my basketball season because I wanted to start baseball season because I never played the full season. Always going to the playoffs. But I wanted to let the scouts know I was serious about baseball. My senior year so started the first full season. You know, the rest is history. And I think that you can do it all. This dude's just athletic. They look at all that. They have to. They look at the athletic ability to speed. You know what I'm saying? My son is doing exactly what he's doing. I've seen him look like a twin, bro. But he was smart enough to do that. I ain't going to say he was smart enough because I told him to do. I just think he was a little bit more focused than me. So playing basketball and football is a waste of time to him. Even though he could, without even warming up, just grab the ball and do whatever. Because he can't it's no film of me playing basketball. Football and baseball so he can believe it. But you know back then there wasn't film as much basketball. So he can't see. So he can't even imagine. I haven't played him yet. But he got to come. How is it though? Because y'all look just alike, bro. How is it? He ended up getting that extra inch. So that's why I told him, you know, he could have been a baseball player. I said, man, you got the extra inch. I didn't get it. I think I wouldn't have been 60 or 60. How old is he? He's 17. 17. Y'all look just like, bro. That's dope, man. But baseball pays more money, though. Yeah, they say that. I don't know. I ain't no play baseball. OK. Do you get less injuries in baseball than you do in basketball? Well, the way they playing basketball, they playing a long time. You know, I think the way they, like, taking care of their bodies and recovery and all that stuff, they playing a while now. You know, I'm looking at like Chris Paul, you know. Yeah. Ever from the stop. Yeah. You can play a long time in baseball, too, as well. But see me, I played on turf for nine years. And so that kind of, like, slows you down a little bit when you trying to play in the league as a speed runner. Yeah. That's the only thing I hate about sports. When you look at all the injuries and even with football, you remember when they came out with that movie Conscious with Will Smith? Concussion. Concussion, yeah. And he talked about, brought your attention to all of the concussion that you have. CTE, right? Right. And I'm like, who wants their kids? I guess the money is good, but is it worth it? Yeah. Once they came back and the studies showed that it's real, you know, I just told my kids they don't have to play football anymore. They can play flag football just to kind of get the movements in, you know what I'm saying? Right. Left turn and all that stuff. But as far as when it comes to contact, I'm not really into putting my kids in football. Exactly. I'll pass. Yeah. Let's talk about, because I didn't really get it. How much, you did a second deal for a hundred and some million dollar con, how did that feel that day? That was when I said, the devil raised you talking about it? Yeah, Boston Red Sox. Yeah, Boston Red Sox. I mean, like I said. How did you feel, man? Let's talk about that. It's just, you know, just... Yeah, I'm just going to sign this paperwork. I've got to do this. Later, you know where you come from and you get to this point and you just never even, never in a million years without a doubt that, you know, me playing baseball or whatever, I didn't mention that type of stuff. So just to get to that point from where I started for him was just amazing, you know what I'm saying? Man. Just to see how it's still going and stuff like that. Like I happened to just walk... Well, it got me serious about baseball. I just happened to walk into a random corner store one day and saw that a car Everett had signed for 50 million dollars. This was in, like, 1996 or something. I was in about the 10th grade. I remember saying, Jesus, you know what I'm saying? Man. Man. When you think about when you think about what you've done, it's a freak. You're a freak of nature, man. Like everybody don't do that, bro. That's the thing that you gotta realize. Like being in a picture, sometimes you can't see the picture. You know I'm telling the truth. But for you to do something like that, man. That's, that's a way, for me, that's a way up there. Yeah. MVP many times. I'm in beast mode. You broke a lot of records. I mean, like, you did amazing. Like, you know, do the best I can, leave a good legacy for my kids. You know, and you know, when you black in baseball, you gotta be good. It's no, the only way you can be up there is if you're all-star, you know. So. And you're four time all-star. Yeah. So, I wanted to ask, so Hall of Fame, how does that work? Because. I think it works with like writers, the writers, you know what I'm saying? Have to vote, for our peers. When are you getting in there? When they vote for me. If I gotta get popular in them. Man. You know, I gotta get in there, you know, so. Because you did a lot. I thought they would look at all that you've accomplished. You know what I mean? Right, right. No, well, it's like over time, that's my first year, you know, and I'm a speed guy, you know, but I just look at it as like I play really well during the sterile area, which was tough to play in. Well, I bet. So, I hope they consider that man. You know what I'm saying? You got that favor, man. I can tell, man. Yeah, so popularity, doing stuff like, like, you know, with the record label, just being popular outside of baseball, I hope that helps. I think it will. You know, so I just want to keep doing positive stuff outside of the community, so they can like, just see and then when me coming back with my son, hopefully, you know, I'm, you know, get back into coaching. I'm debating whether I want to like go coach when he gets drafted or something like that. I like it. Another boy that's coming right after my oldest son. How's he, how's he in sports? All of them really? Yeah, he might be the number one pick in the whole draft, you know. Really? Wow. They just come out, man, I see them when they like two years old and I'll just be amazed because you know, I don't have to teach them that, you know. They already, they get it naturally. Yeah, man. Are you doing the same thing for the girls? Because I remember growing up, my dad would always do everything for the boys and the girl is like, they just don't know it yet. They just don't know what they can do yet, but I see them around the house, they play with the boys, they got a lot of energy. I'm just waiting to kind of see what they gravitate to. So you're not going to treat them differently, you're going to still? I don't know, they're going to be aggressive too. I'm going to make them dominate the girls. Okay, okay. Of course I would like for my girls to play tennis, but that looks like I might have a couple hoopers on my head. There's nothing wrong with that. You got two girls. Yeah, I got two girls. That's dope, man. There's a girl, you know, there ain't no money I want to go where they can get paid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean... You play golf? Nah, so I don't think I don't need them. I don't need them. I like to, I'm telling me the track, basketball, I mean the track, or, or volleyball, I mean, or tennis. Tennis. Yeah, they can make good money. They might want to play softball, you know. Yeah, I don't know. It's hard, man. It's hard on the girls, man. But we definitely, we know y'all in the building and we know y'all run thing. We just, we just here. I'm just hoping, I'm just hoping that one day, like the basketball, like take off, you know where they can be paid more, you know. That would be better. I think it's going to take like a girl to just come down a lane and just smash one day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what it'll take. You know what I'm saying? Like get like some... You never know, it might be a daughter. Hey. Man, hey. So, I want to get into the music, man. Right, right. I want to get up. At first, I want to say, man, you've done extraordinary job going into the music. I think of you. I think about, I really, I think about the J-Princes. I think about the Master Peas. I think about the Birdmans. You know what I mean? In the South. And I look at you and what you're doing and I put you in these categories because it's promising to see something new, you know, that transpires into music. I've been dealing with music ever since rap came to the scene. I'm older cat and I just, I got a heart for music. You know what I mean? And when J-Princes did what they done, I definitely was, I was in cahoots with it. Like I said, Master Peas was one that came kind of behind him and then you got, of course, Birdman. That's the only one that I kind of consider. I'm kind of biased. I like who I like. I like the bosses, man. You know what I'm saying? So, when I think about that and I think about what you've done, thank you for the music, man. You know, starting off, like I say, I think I've seen somewhere you became friends, I guess, with T-Farris. I don't know how that relationship started. Right. No, well, me and T-Farris knew each other from Little League Baseball. Okay. So, y'all already knew each other. Yeah, like nine, ten-year-old kids, you know? So, that's pretty much knew him early on. So, y'all knew y'all grew up together? We didn't grow up together. We knew each other during baseball season. Okay, cool. He played ball, baseball. Yeah, he played ball. He played on another team when we was younger. I played on the winning team. Like I said, I played on the winning team. So, and you know, towards the end of the year, you know, you get to pick up players and stuff like that, and then y'all have like this little all-star team and you go play state. You know, I won a state four times back there, and you know, it was like, it was just like one, it was an all-black, all-black baseball league that you never, you probably never seen this before, never seen it again, but from age eight to 14, they had all these teams. Everybody was black. The parents, you know, you know, you know, they did stuff together. And it was like one big love, a little happy family back there. So, when I heard you speak on it, I heard you say that when you got out of, when you retired from baseball, you went directly into the music. And when you went directly into the music, you and T. Ferris kind of, you moved him in with you or something? I moved him into my house with him. I'm the type of person like my coaches would tell you. I wish I was your friend. I moved him with you. And you would be like, look man, look man, I moved in. You know, I can move to Houston. I'm gonna do music, man. You see, I got in trouble right now. No. You know, I'm a quick learner. My coaches would tell you, I pick stuff up quick. I'm giving to him. You ain't got to tell me too many times. And I want to know the same thing with him. I just knew that I'm behind. I know he had all the information. So, I'm the type, you know, going to pick you up and doing this stuff. I wanted to know about music. I wanted to wake up, sing a day, you know, and just put it in my system as much as I could. The only way I can do that is by moving you in with me. So, when I move the man with me, you know, as soon as we get up, you know, it's like, all throughout the day, we ride through the city. We just constantly, just constantly talking about what we're gonna do, how we're gonna do it and things I need to know. You know, so it was just like, I was just like putting all that information into my body before I did anything. You know, how long before you actually did that, were you thinking about starting this business? No, I was already thinking about starting a business. It was, I did that for like uh, six to eight months before I put out music. Yeah. Right, but how long before that were you... Thinking about this? Right. This idea came up in about like 2008. You were playing baseball, though, but you couldn't focus all the way on it. Right, so you already knew that's what you wanted to do when you were exiting? Yeah, I knew that's what I wanted to do. I knew a lot of guys had tried it and I looked around and I said, nah, this, you ain't going to be able to do this while you're playing. You know, you're going to have to, like, your focus... You got to put your whole everything into it. You're going to be able to have one foot in and one foot out. So I realized that early and I just laid back, you know, until, you know, it was time for me where I could strike and just do it all the way. Did T, like T Ferris, I know like, and I want to stay on that a little bit. After you showed him you did a thing where you kind of paid him for consultation. Yeah, everything. You see what I'm saying? I paid this guy, I paid this guy every month, you know what I'm saying? So you paid for consultation? Yeah, I paid him every month for consultation, you know what I'm saying? Like I say, he was really, when he had too much going on, just taking money for little local people. Well, I only heard him on Pow Wow, I said, that he would, Pow Wow would call his name all the time. Yeah, Pow Wow his little, his little, his little baby or whatever you want to call him. That's all he does. Going vouch for him in times, you know. Yeah. You know, the only reason why I'm saying this is because Pow Wow came to the defense at a time when it was in his business and what none of your business, Pow Wow. So he just stepped out there and said something. Because you got the, because you're the bigger, you're the bigger figure than me. So everybody, of course, going to listen to it. But you know music, you know music, right? But you know who T Ferris is, bro, I had to learn them too. I mean, Houston for a while, you know, but y'all know who, you know who T Ferris is around Houston and he pulled the biggest, the biggest, what, the biggest scam of the century on me, you know. So he's never done nothing like this before. He's done like this even though he is. He said, you know, because if he'd done something like this before and you heard about it, you would have, you know, don't ask before you did something like this. You know what I heard about it, you know what I'm saying? But this is a friend of mine, you know, so you had warnings. I had warnings and that's why at the end of the day, I take the money. You take the hell of it, man. All the stuff that happened, I take it, but you know, it don't stop me from doing my opinion. But I was warned, you know what I'm saying, and everybody know about it and, you know, he got me good, you know what I'm saying, but at the end of the day, you know, I'm a warrior. I always bounce back as y'all can see. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I want to ask about Power, like, why would Power Wild even say anything in it when it's not even, is it, I mean, have you ever talked to him or something? I made a post saying stuff about T. Farrish, you know, and that was between me and him. But he decided to go and make a post saying, oh, you know, he's never done nothing bad to me or nothing. Of course he's done nothing bad, he ain't done nothing bad to you, Power. You know, you like his little pupil, you his little star pupil, he gonna make you mad and I go ask Mike Jones that same question. You know what I'm saying? Let's see what he's saying. You know what I'm talking about? Nah, we ain't gonna do that. Yeah, yeah. Mike Jones, shout out to Mike Jones, man. Yeah, you know, so it's like, and there are other people that you can ask. Now, you know, you know, Megan is doing well right now, so guys, you know, Mike and I want to say what they want, they all think they're gonna get this secret Megan the Stadion verse one day that I have to approve it. You know, it's funny, but, you know, it's just like, man, he really turned on me, you know what I'm saying? I put a lot of trust into that guy. Never talked to him again. Never still haven't spoke to him from the day from the day Megan posted her picture with Jay-Z. I haven't talked to either one of them since that day and I just felt like that's just the, that's just like the, you know what I'm saying? And he's no longer part of 1501. Nah, he been checked out. He been checked out way before. I even knew, you know, like they, I was just so like, so like clueless to everything, you know, that's what upset me because they understood that I was clueless to everything, didn't know nothing. So it was easy to just do what they did to me, you know what I'm saying? But, me being a person who I am and learn what really happened, you know, now you know, now I know, now you know that I know what really happened. You know, of course, you don't want to say nothing to me. You hate when I say, when I talk out in the media and stuff like that. You know what I think it was? I think it's not that you're so clueless. Because the thing is that, Leo's man. We be trusted. Yeah, but as we get older, we learn. I'm telling you. But the thing is that because I've seen in interviews where you just put everything in his hand because he had more knowledge and you then, you know, double check. You know, do your due diligence and double check on a lot of different things that you were supposed to double check on. I don't mean because you were too busy but at the end of the day it's your business so you have to do it. You know, like I've heard so many stories about guys coming into the music and letting them just stay potting to do it. I really didn't let him just do it like I say we live together. I was over his shoulder all the time but I'm clueless to the rap game so I don't know what moves you're making or how you're talking. I don't even know what questions to ask really. I just kind of have to take what you give me for that day and so he took advantage of that. You know what I'm saying? How different is the way different? It's different. It's different. It's the way it's more secure. This is really like some Tetris stuff in the music industry. Nobody cares. They're eating a lie. It's no trust. It's all bad. It's nothing sacred about it. You know what I'm saying? For the baseball and sports you know everything is every two weeks you get paid and everything is up and up. It's none of this backstop and crazy stuff I told Sharon Cotton I was like man I couldn't do it man I told him he came on here I said bro I got 18 I'm like nah hell nah I don't trust nobody I don't trust it's hard for me to trust I don't think people gonna do right if some did he said and I never forget he say you never know nobody until they get money that's what he told me and I'll never forget that because I know he ain't lying these niggas will change on you when the money start coming that's when sorry bro but knowing what you know now when you left baseball would you still have gone into this entertainment business or would you have chosen something else nah see I can only do things that I have a real passion for you know what I'm saying so I had a passion for this only thing I would do was just like I would have just looked over had somebody looking over T. Ferris all the time I just let him run wild by himself you know what I'm saying and that was a no no okay with baseball to this I know that you were dating Evelyn Lozado right did she play any part in motivating you to do this business because you know having up that partner to you know help you with she was her being in the entertainment business already you know I don't think she was too excited about me coming to the music industry you know so nobody is ever excited about their other going into this business because there's always a lot of you know party just looks bad you know so they can be there with you I had to kind of you know if they believe you know I don't think she believed too much in the beginning so they never believe in the beginning you know what I'm saying and that's the case they never believe in the beginning whatever you trying to start they're not going to believe till you prove it because a lot of things for us we looking at the money we looking at a lot of different things and I'm like are you sure you want to show us okay we're going to get this return this is how it's going to work whatever then we're like okay yeah we can do this yeah now I understand I hear you I hear you I was just like I just knew that I had a recipe that you know what I'm saying that could work well let me just say this man you've been winning all this time why would you be putting your you know what she say what he say at the end of the day you already have proved that you a winner right so you knew already that the decision you make primarily had to be your decision at the end of the day that's right he already knows that yeah because he a Leo and he a boss okay now let's get into the music and let's just kind of stay on it a little bit okay baby alright that's okay so when you and I want to ask you about I don't want to stay on the Megan everybody ask you the same question do you get tired answering the same I look back at some interviews I'm here to always clear my name that's why I was able to talk when you think about Megan the stallion when y'all came together how many did she have 100,000 followers when y'all first got together I think she had probably like 120,000 120,000 followers when she was taking that picture with JZ how many followers did she have she had over a million followers then but that was that was during the time you guys had worked with her to get there that was are we building up yeah I seen the build up it was crazy so do you feel like when you done it do you think that she and you you know you could have got you should have got had a closer relationship with her she's my first big artist you see what I'm saying but this is where the T Ferris come back and I hate to make him the theme of the night but it's just what it is you know him knowing and keeping the division between I bought him a new truck just to drive her around and you know he picking up he not even telling me he going to go get her he going to go he going to the family functions he ain't telling me nothing you know he all everything was about him positioning himself to where he can get in her head and like turn make it seem like you know it was me against her you know when it never was me against her I never had no issues with her we had like one situation with me and her mom you know what I'm saying got into an argument one time it happens you know what I'm saying we apologize stuff after that you know I'm only telling you this because you know I heard from Marana was trying to use that as a reason for why she didn't I don't believe that because you know me and her mom made up and we apologized to each other but other than that we never had no situation with Megan I never told her notes and nothing we gave her every single thing she wanted something you know what I'm saying so when all this stuff happened I literally was like the confused person and they knew I was going to be like that I mean you had to have some paperwork on there as you still wouldn't be in a life we had everything going on you know how do you cut out of a deal though let me I want to say shout out to my boy Devon Stevens you know I know he probably don't want me to say his name right now and you know he kind of you know told me step in and helped yeah you know I came in from Miami one day and he just pulled me to the side and was like yo bro they finna cut you out you know I'm saying he could see it yeah he was like yo they finna squeeze you out they finna squeeze and I'm like what you mean squeeze me out bro I'm happy we in Miami with the what did you talk about he say hey man they finna squeeze you out they'll be check everything yes so when he told me this I'm like shit what the squeeze me out I'm thinking I'm thinking we moving forward together I'm not even understanding it's a problem so you know of course I gotta go talk to my consultant back home Phil Ford the OG Lil J I go tell him about this conversation that I have with this guy and you know he starts to tell me yeah he's been here and well and now he's getting real and now I'm starting to see all the funny shit you know what I'm saying all this and I'm just like so you had already contacted well not J Prince but Lil J the son no not the son you already had talked to as soon as you heard that as soon as I heard that I won't cave him a call because I'm like I don't even know who to call if they finna because he knows everything about the business yeah you know what I'm saying so I don't know what else to call so yeah called him and he kind of gave him in the heads up what was going on and how to deal with it yeah they got you know they got Megan got so mad at Devon she like you know started talking crazy to him you know what I'm saying get mad cause they told me you know what I'm saying thank you for I'm like why but what did I do you know what I'm saying take all your resources that you dedicated to that project dealing with them and say you know what I'm out of here I'm not going to even try to would they have started acting on all this would they have cut you all the way out if they could have oh yeah you see what I'm saying like nothing I don't want that was the plan that was the plan no more talking to you at all it was like you know that was the plan the plan was to go over rock nation whatever get big lawyers and stuff and you know boo me out do what they do but JZ on the other end or whoever his people are nobody was trying to even contact you out of respect because you were on the paperwork or they just didn't show them the paperwork they weren't they didn't have no respect for me but they was coming in they take everything you know what I'm saying they was trying to get the contract voted they was trying to get out the contract it's just business nah I just I mean I'm talking about rock nation rock nation yeah like how do you feel about the way that they did business outside of what you already would you know deal with I just feel like you know I guess that's what the big labels do they come in they let you build it all up they come in and find the smallest thing tell you it's a problem like in her case and this ain't me making it up is you know she say her publishing her publishing you know what I'm saying this time you know so this she say rock nation came and showed her that oh I was taking too much of her publishing oh okay well that's a easy fix you can come and switch it you know what I'm saying you a big star nah whatever we have to do we have to do nah they was like nah so they made it look like she had it in her mind she wanted to go already she wanted to go she wanted to sit on me how did you stop it I didn't stop it well I stopped it because you stopped it J we had to slow it down because that was moving fast it was coming it was coming it was coming they was coming they was coming strong man how important is it to have a guy like little J J Prince that you could call because you know what I'm saying stuff like that when it's like you know when you try to somebody is bullying you like a do something like that to you and you know it's cool to be at a call somebody that can kind of just you know get in there handle those type of situations for you nah man and everybody they ain't got that kind of relationship well luckily enough for me I did and like I said I always I always wanted to share what I did with Houston with Houston people I understood that I used the blueprint you know what I'm saying from the little J from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the and it went exactly as planned. Like, you know what I'm talking about from how it started to finish. It went exactly as planned, and for no reason, it just, they decided, hey, man, you done. But you learned a lot more about the business after that. Yeah, I did, I learned a lot. You see what I mean, that didn't happen, you wouldn't have been on that track to learn. I wanna ask about the first, that was the first artist, officially, that you had put on the? Well, no, she wasn't the first artist. Who was the first? She was the biggest one. The first artist was some guys out of my neighborhood. Yeah, I just came on, yeah, guys out of my neighborhood. You went back in to dealing with Erica Banks. How was that different from the first time when you was dealing with this and how did that relationship start? Oh, the relationship started with me just reaching out to her, you know what I'm saying? And me wanting to prove a point to everybody. But I seen her with Top-Off, I had half-paint on here, I asked him about it. I say, how did that happen? And he was like, that's what she wanted to go. I don't hold nobody if they want to go. The paperwork ready, you know what I'm saying? The paperwork ready. Right, that's it. Like, if you have that stuff ready, it's cool. You know about that. Right. All I do is ask, hey, did you sign anybody? You got anything? They gonna tell me yes or no? Yes or no. You know I'm not asking about half-paint or nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She told me no, and there's no official thing to them. Like, I'm coming in. And you're gonna do business. Come in, yeah, man. I get it. And how are you handling her differently from how you handle Megan? Well, with them, you know, I'm a little more, you know, I talk to, you know what I'm saying? You gotta talk to me. You gotta talk to them, you know what I'm saying? You gotta have a better relationship. Like I said, it ain't like I had a bad relationship with Megan, I just didn't know that I was supposed to be in her shit all the time. I didn't know I was supposed to be part of her whole life all the time, you know what I'm saying? Right, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, with Erica, the communication, we talked about it better than that, you know? Plus, you know, we know this bad deals that I give out, whatever it is, you know what I'm saying? I mean, but you got to be down with it. But a lot of people boss, boss is gonna get that kind of rep, the baby, the J-Princess. They put this thing out there I gave out bad contracts, no other stuff, you know? That's what bosses get. That's a part of it. I'm just like, we don't hear no complaining, you know? That's a part of it, dude. I just know that when you started to, so was that the busses song, that's something that you guys did under your umbrella? Was that song that was already rolling? She already had a song, she already had put it out. She had got 30,000 streams on it already, you know? So, when I heard the song, you know, I was like, man, you know what I'm saying? I can do something with it. I took the song, got it, and then I put it out, and then we put our thing behind it, and you know what I'm saying? That's when it started to grow. Yeah, I seen that, man, the tip top and all that stuff. It may go, has it gone platinum yet? Yeah, it's platinum already certified, so. But you haven't gotten a plaque yet? Well, the A.R.A. just kind of like noticed that it was platinum, you know? Awesome, congratulations. Platinum, platinum, platinum, platinum, platinum. Congratulations. I love it. Congratulations. Two platinum recording artists. That's dope, man. I love it. It's a Texas thing for me, so I'm over a trip, and you know what I'm saying? I'm not having anything to do with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But why all these with the girls? Because I've always heard people say it's harder to deal with the ladies than it is for men. Well, that's what they say, you know what I'm saying? But if you kind of like, you know what I'm saying, have a recipe for it, it ain't this bad. To me, the girls are like winning because they like do all the tedious stuff, you know what I'm saying? Like guys, for some reason, you say, go make this video, do it like this, do it like this. You know what I'm saying? They want to do their own thing, right? Go away, a video, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, they going to do, they going to listen. So it's like. So what you saying is starting to bam. No, I'm kidding. I'm just saying the girls just seem like they'll do the work, you know what I'm saying? And they actually rap into it as well. I'm a mess dope, man. I love what you're doing. So you looking for more female rappers? All the time. I'm going to have to retub me. I'm going to have to retub them, breaking them all to the like. That's your niche. Listen, when God give you something and he show you good at it, you supposed to double down. Yeah. Especially when other people don't, we don't want to deal with them. Right. I don't know. A lot of people been really dealing with girls lately. Girls, it's like, it's like, people are starting to realize it. They are. So it's all this number one girl at the top. No, it's going to be like a wave, you know what I'm saying? So I want to be in, right in the thick of that wave coming, you know what I'm saying? You going to be. I want to have multiple. You going to be. Ain't no, ain't no if ands and buts. So Stonobam, D-Raw, who else is it? Smoothie, we just got. Oh, Smoothie, that's my boy. I didn't know if y'all, so Smoothie is official. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about, man. So Smoothie is, man, that's different. How you going under that? In my mind, I was like, OK. Hey, man, I just know Smoothie lit, man. He live, man. He very live. I mean, you got a little rapping punch line. I think that's Texas, man. That's Texas all day. And then he like played football. You know, he was a water bag. I was a water bag. So he understand little stuff that, you know what I'm saying? That kind of translates over into the music for us, like Team Wilds or Wild Might, Wild Might want him to do certain things, you know what I'm saying? So it's cool. And that's my boy, man. You know that. He played a water bag. I played quarterback. I said, you want to be like handing the ball? Hey, man. Let you go. So when can we get some music from? Smoothie, I already got music. I know he got a lot. We just trying to get it all together, you know what I'm saying and figure out what I'm going to go with. But he got the song called Chad Butler that we. Yeah, yeah. Man, I love that song. Boy, I love that song. We posted that thing. Everybody been liking it. So that's the one we kind of been rolling with. So like when you look at the sound that you creating over there, I know you got, I know you got different producers, but Sergeant Jay, man. Sergeant Jay, man. Listen, man. Because he like, that's my guy. When it was a gym that came with Erica. Yeah, I seen that. It's like the grace of God. You know, he done fell in our lap. We trying to take full advantage of him because I always told him, I feel like, you know, the way he's working at the years, he stays in the studio. Little Jew was in the same way. You know what I'm saying? But you know, T-Fares with that too. So I didn't get him. So I ended up, you know, learning how to do it with Sergeant, I signed Sergeant Jay. And you know what I'm saying? We all been cool. That's good. You know, he do all our stuff. I see him, man. And you know, that's my guy. So I'm on the phone like, man, what y'all got going over there, man? I've been, I know I was going to get in now. Me and see, I got a car here now. I can't wait to get Erica. I can't wait to get, I'm getting everybody over here eventually. They got to come through here. But I want to come down to Houston and come to your spot. I really do. Yeah, come on to my studio. We do a lot of, you know what I'm saying? You can do it. I can set this up. Can we go to Houston? Last time we set up at Pudge, Mid Pup Studio. Yes, you see. Oh, OK. Yeah, Mike D. It was Pud Empire. Pud Empire. He would, he would come up with Most City with Zero Neil. Oh, OK. So that was his spot over there. But shout out to that boy, man. He let us come in. We set up. It was a nice look. And we did one at Ronnie Spencer, too. We did one at Ronnie Spencer. We go every week. We go, I'm going to come through and see you. Pull up on there, pull up on there. We'll be down there for New Year's. Yeah, we'll be down in New Year's. Yeah, see where we're going to be at. Yeah, yeah, we're going to be around. What I was going to ask you about is just, do you feel like, do you like the way the music is going in Texas, the South? Look, man, we, you know, we got from like, from like, all the new artists coming up, all the girls coming up, you know, Ken, the man. Like, she really coming into her own, you know, far as a little country town, like, you see. East Texas, C.C.O.P. You see C.C.O.P. going in. Yeah, so I don't really know all them guys this year. But, you know what I'm saying? When they come to me and I jam, you know, I hear a little certain little stuff. Do you, do you listen, do you keep your, how do you keep your ear to the music, to the streets? How do you do it? You know, go out still, you know. Still go out, I'm still so out of the loop. People go, you know, I have a lot of like, private parties where people come to different places and play music or, you know, like, SARS never tell me, they just got here going on, you know, I got my engineer here, no, and stuff like that. That's dope, man. But these youngsters, man, hey, man, say, man, good luck with that. Youngsters got like, whoo, whoo, they got that energy. You know what I'm talking about, the one song with the love thing, with the, I'm still trying to get into the auto-tune stuff. You like it or no? It's hard on you, ain't it, man? I don't like it, I didn't like it. But you know, the kids love it, so it's like, we gotta listen. And how you feel about, you know, people not so, they rapping singing. Compared to the rapping. I like it, I like the T-Rail, I like the Rideways, I like, yeah. How you feel about that? Some of them when they like, you know, got the right harmony in there, you know, making it sound dope like they do. I'm just like, not a depressed person. Like, I like to be happy, you know what I'm saying? Okay, so in my, who does that have to be, it has to be a depressed person. I don't know, I like the Rands of the Shun, man. That's my boy. But it is a thing where you have to grab a place of pain and just bring it. So that comes with pain, okay? Yeah, man, I be like, God, leave it, man, y'all rich. Young and rich, what's the problem? I get it, man. So what, okay, top three artists of all time did or live? Any genre? Top three. Number one. Top three artists just. Of all time, did or live. Just rap artists? Any genre. R&B, jazz, anybody. Top, the number one artist for me is probably, I mean, probably gonna like it, but Michael Jackson. Everybody say Michael. Everybody say Michael. Come on, man. Michael Jackson, man, that man. What's your favorite song? Come on, man, Michael Jackson. Billie Jean. Off the wall. Like, like, like, living off the wall. You make me feel all that type of stuff. You don't come on like, all that. Michael Jackson because, you know, man, who wouldn't want to go to a Michael Jackson concert? I heard some guys and I'm not gonna say your name today, but I'm gonna give you a break. But some people say Chris Brown better than Michael Jackson, man. Man. I'll say Trick Dad, not you, L.D. I'm gonna let you make it 300. Nah, nah, nah, okay, you got him. And who's number two? Number two for me. I ain't never get to meet him and die. Like, Pimp C was one of my- Boy, that's my- Look at him. Look how we did it all, man. It's going down. He's a little beard of Mara, I think it's going down. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And the third one had to be Tupac's foot. Tupac, man. I knew Tupac was gonna be in there somewhere. Man, he gotta be, man. You know, it's an icon type of thing, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, I know, they'll say, you know, other people can rap better, but it was just a whole iconic thing about how he made you feel. He was all around. You know what I'm saying? You know, people don't realize, like, he had nine cases, you know, he represented himself and won it all. You see that? Except the rape case. That's right. I was like, what? Shot an undercover cop and beat the case. That's right. You know what I'm saying? He different. Yeah, like, ain't no, like, so he's so articulate. Ain't nobody, ain't nobody did what he done during his time, in the length of time he had to do it. And then he told us that we was gonna be like this, how we are now. And he was actually right. Man, you hit that on me now. I'm curious, cause I know with running your business, you do a lot of research and a lot of other labels and stuff like that to be able to learn certain things. If you had to name top three labels of all time, what would it be? Top three labels. Ooh. That's good stuff. I don't, you know, labels for, like, when you think labels, like, you talking about like this. Even from back then, yeah. Even from back then. Smaller, smaller, larger, whatever. I never really could understand you. And then get into it. Like for me, it was all about the independent labels. Okay. You know, so I had, you know, from the Rappelites to the No Limits to the. Okay, that's money, yeah. That's all I ever, you know what I'm saying? Thought really exists. Yeah, yeah. The other stuff, you know. Maybe I heard like a Delfgem, but I probably wouldn't even know, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. We from the South. Yeah. We've been in the South. We don't even think about the big label. We just think. We've been in the South. You know, we just think, like, because you're going to get even bigger. So you're going to be like way up there, whatever. But I always think about, you know, looking at all of these different labels and looking at, okay, what did you do wrong? What did you do right? So I can figure out, you know. And then they change and stuff. They change the rules and things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They change so different. You know what I'm saying? Time changes things so much. How did you like the era going from CDs, from, from cassettes. Nigga, you ain't just no young string. From cassettes to CDs to now just streaming. You know, from the tapes, you know, you used to like them. You put the little paper in there. Yeah, yeah. You go and tape over then it went to the CDs. But y'all had it going on. Y'all messed that up. They used to mess that up. They had to double. They had to screw. Then they had to regular music and then they started mimicking everybody else and pissing off of them. Yeah, they did, man. They had to come in. They had them mixed tapes. You know what I'm saying? They had it going. You were doubling them. FanFest came in, Charlotte Dolls. Ha, ha, ha. So, what else did you have for them, babe? You got anything else? We want to give them what we got to give them. Cause we got presents for you. Oh, we got love for you. No, you got, yeah, yeah, we got love for you. Let me give them this first. Yeah, you got the 1501. Yeah. There we go. Uh-oh, there we go. That's it, that's it. That was the whole game, man. Oh, yeah, for sure, right here. That's you right there, man. Man, you knew that one was coming. You knew that one was coming. Had to. Man, you didn't know none of that was coming. So we got you a plaque. Oh, okay. Only certain people get that, man. You know, we award you with a plaque, man, to show that appreciation, man. Appreciate that, man. Everything that you done done. I appreciate that, man. Man, one thing that we do on Boss Talk, man. We love you, and you ain't gonna forget us, cause we're gonna always check on you. Hey, man, I come back. I come back with the whole crew, man. I know it. Hey, man, it's going down. You gonna present over here? Over there. I'm gonna do both places. Okay. So it says presented to Carl Crawford in recognition of being a four-time All Star in the MLB, then successfully building 1501 certified entertainment, finding and developing new artists into mega stars. Oh, yeah. That's it. You see what I'm saying, man? I appreciate that. Man, we definitely appreciate you, man. Like I said, we show love, man, because at the end of the day, we gotta give you roses while we're in your presence, to be honest with you. And while you're here. Right, that's right. Cause you always wanna recognize people with the good work that they're doing. Yeah. I hate when later on something happened to anybody and everybody's jumping up and saying, oh, they did this, they did that, and trying to do all of that at that point. Yeah. Yeah. It's easy to ride to, you know. The wave. Yeah, it's easy to step on a little guy when it's easy, but at the end of the day, I appreciate you. Man, what you talking, man? Man, we just, like I said, when you think about it, bro, when we see you, when I said I was trying to get you, I already knew, and my mom, I'm like, when we get him, man, we gotta do this, that, because I respect you and I appreciate you. You know what I mean? I see what you're doing, and we need that. You know, we gotta keep the music going, and then your legacy, it's already recorded. People already know, man. You know what I'm saying? So we know that, and I respect it. And you're from Texas, nigga. Yeah, man. I got a little bit of Texas, but we gotta stand tall, gotta stand on ground. Have you started teaching your son anything about the business? Um, like I said, if they gravitate to it, I will, you know what I'm saying? Like they do. You let them live their life. Yeah, you know, I don't force my kids to do nothing even with sports. They all do it on their own. How many more you want? I'm saying that they still, they, you know, they having them in their fittest now, you know, I don't want to have these by two months. Two months. Already, man. How many times have you been, cause you haven't been married yet, right? Engage, how many times? One time. One time. So, I had a question that flew out of my head. Hey, when that happens, oh my God. I just, I'm gonna tell you, for me, man, like I said, when I think of you, I'm already, we celebrating early, cause I already know what's about to happen. Where you keep on grinding and where you watching what you got going, you can't do nothing but winning. You know what I mean? And you just gotta, and you got the right group of people around you too. You got some good level-headed dudes, man, and girls that you're working with. It's one more girl, female artist. Yeah, her name is Martina Maureen. She's my new artist that's coming up. She's an R&B singer, but she raps through as well. So, and she's really beautiful. So, you know what I'm saying? She's gonna, she kind of captivate the audience a little. She's out there. So, we gonna see what we got going on. I got my other artist, Stunna Bam. Yeah, I meant to Stunna Bam, man. I gotta get him into the real middle, yeah. You know, and we just, you know, wanna keep doing positive things and show that we keeping that pipeline going from Texas to the Major. Man, what you talking about, Texas? You heard that Texas to the Major. He ain't trying to hear it, man. You know what I'm saying? We trying to win around this thing, man. I just, like I said, man, did you have anything else? I'm still trying to write anything. I'm like, it's gonna kill me. And as soon as we leave, I'm gonna be like, oh, dang it, that's the question I was gonna ask. That's all good, man. You know, we love you, Carl. Be honest with you. You family now. Once we get you, we got you. I told you, it's over. Like, people, and we be trying so hard to get people over. Some of them, God keep away. I really believe that, bro. Because we good people. And I think that he puts a hedge of protection around us. There's a time frame, man. You know what I mean? Yup, yup, yup. And so when he went, but when he opened the door, people like, yeah, that's the ones right there. So I thank God for you, man. I appreciate it. And I definitely, I'm gonna keep an eye on the music. I'm gonna be watching. I'm gonna be listening. I'm gonna be streaming. Y'all some stuff coming up the top of the year. Top of the year. Like, it's looking real fun. Yeah. You know, that's the thing I try to keep, you know, my fun spirit about everything even when, you know, all the craziness happened. I bet. I still try to find like a happy place. In the midst of it. I could just still enjoy everything. Yeah, because even reading a lot of the comments under a lot of the interviews I've been seeing, a lot of people are commenting and saying how humble you are. A lot of people are now listening to your side and now, you know, taking your side with a lot of different things. And I love that fact. Well, I just have to like, like, like being from Texas, how we are, and just, you know, like just standing for what's right. Like I can't let my name go around and just be like this at the end of the day. My kids going to grow up. Everybody going to say, I don't want them thinking I was just this, uh, Shug Knight person who just, you know what I'm saying? Whoa! That's the hell of a, yeah, but that's the one that never fucking matters. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, man, I got to prove mad, bro. I didn't do none of this stuff. Like I can't flip my name, yeah. It ain't going to matter. You, it don't matter what you do. Being a boss, you going to get certain people that's going to say this and that about you because of the opportunity that they felt like they missed out on or that you didn't create for them. That's a part of it, man. I don't think you get away from that. Yeah, bro. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know, just that one thing that kind of like, you know, made it seem like I was just, you know, this, this, this person, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. At the end of the day, it don't drive me as much, not like I said, I was just, Don't worry about it. Keep that music coming. Yeah, I'm focusing on that. Keep taking care of the artists and producing, like getting everything out here with tools like we needed, bro. And like I said, man, how can people get a hold to you? Can people get a hold to you? Oh, yeah. Instagram or? 1501, certified ENT, I mean, 1501 Entertainment. And it should be right though. For sure, man. I just remembered what I was going to say. What's your question? Okay, going back to the engagement part. Yes, I gotta ask those questions for the ladies because I know you were engaged to Evelyn. And out of all the women you've dated, she was the only one that you proposed to. What was it about her why you proposed compared to any other woman that you've been with? I mean, I just get, I just feel like I was in the moment. That's the moment I was in at the time, you know? She was pregnant with my son and you know, just felt like the right thing to do. Yeah. At the time, so. Okay, cause that's a big step. Yeah, it was a big step, you know? One that I didn't get to make, but at the end of the day, like I said, I was in the moment when my son was born. We was all in bliss. It felt like the right thing to do. Is that something you want to get married one day? One day, of course. I don't want to be single forever. Man, no, you good. You good. One day, you know. No, he don't need to be there. That's a warm thing. I know you don't be people to be, but think, you know. Brother, you did, yeah, well, yeah, you good. You got your kids, don't you? Yeah, I do. No, the kids are gonna be gone. They're gonna grow up and be gone. She got some things and I don't want to never be in the house by myself. Exactly, you need to have a partner. Somebody who can help you with everything. Yeah, and take half your stuff when they leave. No, no, no. Look out, man. Look out. No, no, we're doing that. So, man, thank you for coming on the show, man. We definitely appreciate you. I know you got to get out of here. You got a flight to catch is what I'm hearing. That's good, let me see. No, I think you good. We're a little bit, I'm trying to stay on time. I respect your time, man. But anytime you're in Dallas, man, feel free to holler at me and come by. If you want us to pull up, we're pulling up, man. And anything we can do from this end for us to put an artist through or whatever, get them on a good, solid platform with some good, solid individuals, man. Boss Talk 101 is where they need to come. Gotcha, gotcha. I'm gonna bring them all up. Check it, man. Hey, man, it's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. And we out. Okay, Mr. Carl Crawford. This is an award from Boss Talk 101 just to tell you thank you for all of your work. It says, presenting to Mr. Carl Crawford in recognition of being a four-time All Star in the MLB, then successfully building 1501 certified entertainment, finding and developing new artists into mega stars. Man, hey, hey, you're welcome, man. Just giving out roses while you're here, man. For sure. Big love, man. First sighted, first sighted. Keep on pushing, man, for the south of Texas. You see what it is? You see what it is? We not gonna stop. We gonna keep going to all the way till we get to the top. Yes, hallelujah.