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I think we could just start you want to just start sure Here we go Daily Tech news show is powered by its audience not outside organizations to find out more head to Daily Tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Monday September 26 2016. Welcome back everyone I'm Tom Merritt big. Thanks to Peter Wells and Justin for doing the show yesterday from Australia But it's Monday, which means Veronica Belmont is here. Hey, hey, how you feeling? Good mostly mostly good You're tanned burpee and ready. I'm not sure why I'd be tan Actually, Ryan noticed a funny thing and that my face is very pale and everything from the neck down is tan Because I wear sunscreen on my face every day, but you don't put it on your arms. Apparently not enough. No, okay Roger Chang who is actually off today traveling his wife said he has a tech tan Which means he only gets tan on the parts of him that are showing outside of his t-shirt. Yeah, that's all that's like the new The new version of the farmers tan. Yeah, exactly Well folks, we are gonna talk about snapchats new purpose as a company and their spectacles That they announced over the weekend Want to note that encrypted messaging app signal is now available as a chrome extension for use on the desktop And you can sync it with your mobile apps still waiting to find out how it handles the keys But that's an interesting development now. Here are some more top stories All right, since Roger Chang is not here for those on video I am going to attempt to show you some of the The screenshots that we normally that he normally does for us. So bear with me We're just gonna have screenshots up a lot. Android police says it has confirmed independent sources Saying that Google is developing a 12.3 inch laptop running the combined Android Chrome OS Andromeda Operating system this one's been rumored for a long time. The laptop is being called bison or informally pixel 3 Inside of Google's walls, although that's not necessarily a final name It would include a fingerprint sensor and stylus support The stylus would be apparently pretty integral to it Android police is confident that andromeda is distinct from the Practice of just bringing Android apps over to Chrome OS. They say instead it's an attempt to merge Chrome OS features into Android in fact they speculate it might be more like Android than it is like Chrome OS The target release of the laptop is the third quarter of next year 2017 The price right now would be around 799 dollars though all of that could change and then 9 to 5 Google Says their own sources also confirm this laptop as well as a Huawei Nexus tablet that will run Andromeda and come out before the laptop interesting Well, that's cool a lot of a lot of new product stuff Yeah, I mean the interesting thing about this is the fact that for a long time We've waited for Google to decide between Android and Chrome OS, right? And if these sources are correct, they're not going to do that They're just gonna bring some of the Chrome OS features into Android to give you a desktop operating system and provide Android With those missing pieces. I have a pixel C Which is supposed to be able to be used like a laptop and never use it like a laptop you can't Very easily use Android as a laptop But you could bring in some of those Chrome OS app functions some of that word processing function the things that they've learned about a Desktop OS bring that into Android I don't know exactly how that happens though how that plays out in practice and on the iOS side I just be happy if we could get messaging apps You know message message messages apps, I guess On the on OS 10 as opposed to just being able to only use them on iOS 10. Oh, you mean the the you know I would want to be able to use messages across my platforms instead of just on Apple devices That would be nice. Oh, that would be nice too, but I want my little jib jabs on my computer You're really into the jib jabs my jib jabs. What do you I mean? Do you would you buy a laptop that ran an Andromeda OS? Would you would you want to use a laptop running that operating system me? No, no What do you think of that play that that they're sort of they're getting into the windows OS 10 area there Yeah, no, I think it makes a lot of sense And I think that'll it'll be nice to kind of combo the best features out of out of both OSes and into one into one Device, I think that'll be a cool experiment and to see how that plays out Moving on a Roku announced a new line of players the Roku Express cost $30 with a faster processor than the previous streaming stick Or Roku one the Roku Express plus is $40 and includes composite cable inputs both have that Stick form factor the Roku dollars with 4k support at 60 frames per second faster quad-core processors and dual band 802 dot 11 ac Wi-Fi the premiere plus is $100 and supports HDR ethernet and micro SD It also has the headphone jack on its remote the Roku ultra is $130 with 4k HDR plus optical audio USB voice search and a loss remote button right on the box Roku's universal search works across 100 services now and the models are available for pre-order and ship October 9th. I Love this. This is this is exciting. It makes HDR Accessible in the Roku. It brings down the prices of the Roku's. Yeah, prices are right. Oh, yeah, absolutely The only thing I don't know is for the first time I'm not certain I need to upgrade and only because I don't have a 4k TV yet If I get an HDR 4k TV, then I'll definitely want to get one of these So yeah, but it's nice now that people who are maybe buying a Roku for the first time are kind of future-proofing themselves At least for the short term. Yeah, if they get the premiere Although this is how I talk about technology now future proofing for the short term Future proofing for the short term because future proofing for the long term is just not possible. It's impossible Yeah, you can't forecast out that far. Yeah, no I get what you mean by that with you're saying like hey I I may not get a 4k TV right away But I will eventually and not not long from now so I might as well future-proof myself for the short term or at least for my Next television. Yeah And and the stick form factor I think is becoming extremely popular now all credit to Google for popularizing that with the Chromecast They certainly didn't invent it But it kind of took off after they put out the Chromecast and so now we've got a couple of different takes on that and all Again entry-level for cord cutters granted not 4k, but extremely affordable 30 bucks You can just like throw a couple in your I mean this this undercuts the price of the Chromecast And it was always the thing with the Chromecast like why wouldn't you buy a few at $35 and just throw them in your bag? And I do enjoy that find remote button over there on the actual device That should be spread across many different kinds of set-top boxes. Yeah, I would like longer tech to put that into the harmony Mm-hmm All right now for folks who've always been attracted to Plex and the ability to have your own Media server, but didn't want to run it on their own PC. We have good news Plex cloud in partnership with Amazon cloud drive will let you host your files remotely You can add files to your Amazon cloud drive from any device Then stream them using the Plex app now. It's not free You'll have to pay for the Plex pass service to take advantage that's $60 a year But that gives you unlimited storage at least in markets where Amazon is allowed to deliver unlimited storage and Plex says they'll work with People who are in those few markets that aren't you can sign up for the beta at Plex dot TV slash cloud That's cool Yeah, I think this will open a Plex to a lot more people who didn't want to have to even just maybe they didn't want to mess With administering a PC as a server or maybe they just didn't want to leave a PC on all the time Because it's a power hog in a lot of cases and mine sounds like an airplane landing so I can understand that do you guys use Plex? No, we don't No, but this could might be a good time to try who knows I'm gonna say like it's not it's this is the easiest Plex That has ever been and even at $60 a year. It's not ridiculously Expensive 60 bucks a year is like nothing for a lot of people who are Netflix for sure in terms of content stuff Yeah, that's pretty good Speaking of content Bloomberg reports that Disney has engaged a financial advisor to evaluate It's a possible bid for Twitter Salesforce is reportedly working with Bank of America to consider a bid as well Disney a Fascinating yeah, so and we've heard rumors about Google being interested, etc Whenever somebody actually goes up for sale a lot of people get interested because they just want to take a look at the books Yeah, check it out. Yeah, it sounds like Disney and Salesforce are being considered serious bidders and Tires a little bit. Yeah, we talked about Salesforce last week as sort of the idea being they would want the analytics They'd want the back end and that customer service aspect of it Disney on the other hand, this would be a media play for them I could see you know with the NFL Thursday night football on Twitter. I could see a play for ESPN to use Twitter Yeah, I think this is um The Disney thing still feels a little weird to me, but I I do I do understand in the ways that you just described I still feel like Google is the best bet Personally just because they really have not nailed down the social stuff and even if you consider Twitter to be more of a content company Which I guess Google yeah, even that I mean they they just haven't done very well in that area So it would make sense to me that that Twitter would fill some of those gaps for them And they could lose money on that and it would be fine for them. They why would they don't even care? Yeah, they could let Twitter be a break-even business. Yeah, and and take advantage again They could they could throw the analytics in their pot not that they need them But they certainly wouldn't mind having another signal in there They certainly have a need for social as you mentioned For some reason though, I look at Twitter as a news content organization these days right and and and and I know a lot of people do and so I feel like its best fit is with a media company now That doesn't mean Google couldn't like fold it into YouTube, right? Like all of a sudden it makes sense as a news company there You could have you could definitely solve well solve is a strong word. You could definitely help the YouTube social situation By having tighter integration with Twitter, but I don't know something about Google just doesn't feel like a perfect match It makes sense on paper But my gut says it just just doesn't fit like Twitter needs to remain a brand and an independent entity Sure, YouTube has remained a brand an independent entity under Google. So it's not unprecedented Yeah, not completely, but yeah, I mean for the most part Disclosed your alert your wife works for YouTube. Yeah, definitely disclose that because that is that is true If you had to pick the perfect company to buy Twitter, could you I Think like I said, I think for me Google makes the most sense And otherwise everyone else is just kind of weird to me. Yeah Well, if you've been paying attention to daily tech headlines, you've heard this about the attack on Krebs on security a after a withering Denial of service attack on his website security researcher Brian Krebs Posted about the democratization of censorship. He points out that the tools to bring a side offline DDoS it out of existence are not only in the hands of governments His site is back up under Google's project shield, which protects journalists Particularly from censorship by denial of service Krebs also noted that lacks security on IP connected devices like internet cameras DVRs Internet of things are providing a platform for bots to conduct these attacks and is called for stronger security implementation on all connected devices This is well, I think that's just good to have in general Yeah Well, it's concerning to me that you have to go to a Google program in order to be able to be heard Like that as a precedent is unnerving now I know that Google's project shield is is meant to be content neutral and it protects journalists, etc But we all know Google has a track record of removing things that they don't feel like they want to do anymore I'm not saying that will happen with Google's project shield But I feel like that's a good temporary measure that but we need a more Sustainable way of protecting journalists from denial of service attack Oh, I protect anybody from denial of service attacks And I think that's what Krebs is getting to when he says we need to lock down the connected devices out there Yeah, the internet of things can can cause a pretty big Hole security hole. I mean for for a lot of people and I think it's You know even even just on on the surface level of like Alexa being able to open up August locks For example, like that should make anyone uncomfortable, but the fact that you can also get in through a DVR Like people aren't thinking that way so there's there's a lot of work to be done in terms of of Making the connected devices and internet of things devices to be a lot more secure People don't think about updating the firmware on their routers They assume that's handled by the by the ISP and it isn't always it's not Yeah, people don't think about making sure to update their light bulbs All this new stuff you have to think about this would be a good product like a product that tells you when to update the Firmware on all your other products Yeah, or in a marketing advantage for an internet of things device would be like we we make sure to keep you updated We go to extra lengths to to provide security updates and make them easy that that's that's what the average person wants to hear It's like I don't have to run my own light bulb server and maintain it I just want to screw it in and know that hey it continues to get updated And you know, that's a slippery slope if you allow the company to do the software updating You might be allowing them to do other things or people to hijack that system Smart point bulbs. Yeah, but Krebs is pointing out We need a better way than then the almost lack of any kind of security that has been on these devices Sometimes they don't even have firmware updates. They just don't protect themselves very well. This is the world. We live in now Yeah, I guess so Speaking of the world I kind of want to live in uber products head Jeff Holden told Kara Swisher at a conference this past weekend that uber is Looking into a vertical takeoff and landing service VTOL aircraft can hover takeoff and land vertically But unlike helicopters have fixed wings instead of rotors Holden believed the technology could be offered for short-haul flights within the decade and eventually be autonomous He said craft could land on top of buildings to help reduce commute times in cities Airbuses project Vahana is researching using VTOL craft as air taxis So not the first people to come up with this idea No, definitely not and and it's that that Way that uber has of saying we are going to leap ahead lately, right? Like with the self-driving cars in Pittsburgh, for instance, they are they are doing a lot to try to Be on the next curve be on the next boat And not continually have to worry about being disrupted and that's really smart of them This does seem a little bit like science fiction though. No It seems like too that it would be another thing that only the rich people can afford like you can oh You know the the plagues just drive in cars. I'm taking my VTOL hover craft into the office this morning We're landing on the roof. We'll be there in time for our stand-up beating at 10 Well, I feel it feels like this automatically and I know it always starts there It started there with black cars for uber as well But you know, that's how you you get that adoption going I guess yeah I mean taking an aircraft to work sounds hoity-toity landing on a roof sounds hoity-toity, but The idea of being driven anywhere by someone also used to feel somewhat like the province of the wealthy And cabs democratize that quite a bit and then uber democratize that even more It still isn't available for everyone and that's why they did uber pool And you know like they certainly have a track record of trying to bring the prices down and make things more accessible I'd certainly out of business interest. I don't think out of any kind of altruism So they would want this to eventually be available. I I don't I don't know How much this sort of thing is going to end up costing, but you're right. It seems like it can't be cheap Does the fuel alone it could be electric vtol's Yeah, maybe maybe that's what they're after You also have to do a lot to You know to make a helipad these days not that I know But I would assume you have to do a lot to get clearances and regulation and it's not that's not a cheap process either I feel like I just see helicopters Like hovering all around san francisco or I see those little prop planes just flying around I feel like those just show up somehow Uh, well, there's lots of f a a rules about where they can fly and I'm sure some of the flight plans and stuff, right? But yeah, I guess they could just piggyback on the existing helicopter infrastructure and land at helipads Given assuming that there's not a lot that has to be done to a helipad to adjust it to vtol But yeah vertical takeoff and landing a hyper loop like in self-driving cars The future is now tom. Yeah 20 or 25 years now We're not going to be using any like trains may be the only thing That exists right now that we'll continue to use except for that old man johnson out in utah insist on driving his own car It's very utah is very large and I don't mean scott because he would definitely do Thanks to all those who participate in our subreddit submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show Dot reddit dot com you guys are the best and you make the show better So get out there and vote over the weekend snapchat renamed itself snap ink Apparently they go around telling people they're a camera company now Yeah, this is weird that whole like we're a lifestyle brand. We're a camera company. Yeah, are you are you a camera company? Are you really they don't make any cameras? They've made other products before Well, the the spectacles are okay. Yeah camera like the spectacles are camera like It's it's its first real hardware product They've done they've done other things before but this is the first serious hardware product from snapchat ceo evan spiegel unveiled spectacles A 129 dollar pair of sunglasses with an embedded 115 degree lens They say that that makes it look the way the human field of vision looks you can record up to 10 seconds at a time Of rounded video I don't know. I don't know. Let's let's just stop right there Now I thought this sounded horrible because I was imagining that it would be a circle But that's not what it is. It's more like a 360 video. Yeah, exactly It shows up as portrait or landscape the way you normally would But as you turn it the picture doesn't turn the field in the picture turns So when it's when it's uh landscape you see more to the sides when it's portrait you see more above and below But because it's circular You don't lose the picture ever Okay, so it's it's it's circular, but it's circular expanded all the way out to Basically 360 degrees Yeah, so you don't see the camera the whole way playing on the phone, right? But you can imagine it as you tilt the camera around the way that you were just demonstrating on the video Because if you turn all the way around it makes it does make a circle And you can go to spectacles.com and see that as well if you if you're listening to the audio Uh, but but it's once you see it in action. You sort of wrap your head around. Okay circular video Rounded video. It's not showing up as a circle on your phone though. No Uh Anyway, that's transferred by by bluetooth on ios or wi-fi On ios and android to the snapchat app Spectacles are coming this fall in black teal or coral on a limited basis They haven't really made clear how you're going to order them not everybody is going to be able to get one But we knew but they are 129. This is not google glass at 1500 bucks Yeah, this is like the price point is uh is right I think um, I you know my my millennial sister-in-law had not heard of this yet I'm sure she has heard more of it by now But she's a huge snapchat user. I use snapchat a fair amount I don't know if I want these but I have to say I don't find them hideous Okay, that's something that I am Uncertain on uh, they look a little goofy to me to be honest Are the lenses really going to be that color? Like are the lenses like like really as as opaque looking as they they show up in the in the pictures I don't know they can't be right like they have to be they have to be more see-through But I guess there's sunglasses and sunglasses are tinted. So maybe they will be Uh, if you wear the blue ones, I assume you don't have to wear the blue lipstick that goes with it I've seen at spectacles.com. I hope you do Or maybe you should I hope that's how you unlock the glasses They okay, I'm going to put it this way the style of these glasses looks like something That I could imagine my friends would buy and look good in but not me Well, yeah, maybe maybe just the black pair They kind of just remind me of like grounded like ray bands or something Um And I I do worry that this will be a thing that will get stolen off of people's faces Off of people's faces you think yeah, I think so I mean people were getting google glass like slapped off their face or stolen or ripped off their face in bars Okay, so that brings up a good have some of this The way you know someone is recording is a light goes on that faces out as well as one that goes in so that I know I'm recording Everyone else knows I'm recording. I have to tap on the left corner of the glasses to start them recording And they're limited to 10 seconds So that could that could ameliorate some of this Where you know like oh he tapped it's 10 seconds and then he has to tap again or it won't record What what does that have to do with getting it stolen off your face google glass? You just started and it would just go Oh, okay, so you're saying like yeah people started to assume it was just recording all the time. That's that's right Whereas but I mean I'm more talking about this is a luxury item That now especially if they're doing a limited release not everyone is going to have And it's a very obvious product. Uh, it doesn't look like anything else there on the market It's not like a pair of warby parkers that just happened to have a camera built in that you can't see outside So it has the benefit of being very on it obvious because people know when you're using it And so they don't feel that like safety or security issues But they're also bad obvious in the way that people are like. Oh, those are those new snapchat glasses I'm a steal them. You know, I'm going to rip those off someone's face So Yeah, I don't know I don't know if the actual theft will be so widespread as the animosity That that may be part of it too. I'm just thinking about pokemon snapchat says they have more than 60 million daily active users in the us in canada Uh 40 of their total 150 million worldwide. They have 50 million active users in europe So basically 110 of their 150 million users are europe us in canada As a comparison to that 60 million number in us in canada facebook has 170 by 5 million So the user a number is rising people are using snapchat I assume that they're doing this kind of as a promotional aspect though They say limited number of glasses Maybe like I think it's just meant for some people to talk about not everyone to have It's just kind of too bad also that it only works for one app You know, like if they really did want to be like a quote unquote camera company, right? They would allow you to use this for apps other than snapchat too. One would assume So who knows it just feels like they're limiting themselves if they did want this to be a true hardware release I understand why they would at least start with snapchat as being the only app it works with But it is kind of short-sighted I see what you did there Product thinking wise. Yeah, maybe maybe they'll open it up though Maybe it starts as snapchat and then the second version comes out and it works with you know your phone in general And it's got better integration if you're using snapchat, but the images could be captured by the things There is some storage on this if you if you aren't connected to your phone. It can store a certain number of snaps Tell you how much I You know what now that you've put it this way I'm starting to think of this more excuse me like google glass In that it is an experiment. It's limited way cheaper But it is meant to see what kind of uses people put them to Perhaps as a way to inform the next round Right I wonder if we'll be doing an application process for it Yeah, like didn't they do that for google glass too? Yeah, they did Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that One of the reasons there was a backlash is because it felt like you had to know someone or be connected Then you'll just have a photo of robert scoble in the shower wearing spectacles. Yeah, at least that wouldn't only be 10 seconds We we talked about uber putting into place on friday a system That requires the drivers to match up their picture with the picture on file To discourage account sharing got a couple of emails here from folks. First of all sikhani Who writes our column called your private driver at daily tech news show dot com? Reminded people uber or lift or whatever that if the driver or vehicle that arrives to pick up your Pick you up doesn't match the driver or vehicle shown in your app Cancel the ride and report the driver and don't get in the car He said it's a pretty big safety risk and he's written about it previously We'll have a link to that in the show notes if multiple drivers want to share a vehicle He says there are legitimate ways to do this whether it's separate accounts attached to the same car Or sub accounts under a master business account just handing the keys off to someone else is not acceptable And it should result in the deactivation of that driver I believe that if more riders were aware that account sharing is a reportable offense I wouldn't have to risk being locked out of my legitimate account because I don't have enough light around to properly capture My dark skin tone and a selfie and yes, this has actually happened. So I'm a little bit salty sikhani We're not laughing because it happened, uh, that's that that's awful and I'm sorry you got locked out man And then s who would like to be anonymous Wrote as a former uber driver. I am all for this photo verification But what I would really like is photo verification for passengers One of the reasons I stopped driving is the switch and bait for passengers I'd get a request from sally and then get there where I met John or her boyfriend who doesn't have an account Now I should cancel on principle and I have a few times but other times if it was a quick drive I'd pick them up and take them to their destination. I shouldn't lose money for someone's fraudulence interesting see that is I have done that many times. I have sent ubers to pick up my friends. Um, if I was going to you know, like a For any number of reasons or I've ordered ubers for friends who don't use uber to get them home safely Or you know, I've had them Yeah, I've done that and I never thought of that as being fraudulent in my mind I was like, I'm taking a chance on my friend or acquaintance to not do anything stupid to lower my score So for me, I'm putting my own reputation on the line by saying I know that if my uber goes and picks up Megan she's going to be a good passenger because I'm going to be the one suffering for her behavior Megan. Yeah, I wouldn't if it was Naomi. I don't know if it was Naomi. I know that's a totally different story but Inside baseball, um, but yeah, it's uh, so I never thought of that as being a fraudulent Issue I can under I have also called the uber drivers before After they accepted the pickup and been like, hey, listen, it's not going to be me. You're picking up It's going to be my friend or whatever. I usually try to let them know and that's always been fine Yeah, I had this when I was working on a shoot in Seattle Where the company would just buy an uber and have it come pick us up at the hotel and bring us to the office And the person who ordered it was never around One time we had a driver who refused and we had to call another car Since then uber has put in a way for companies to be able to have master accounts like that So that they can do that more officially But there really isn't an easy way unless you go to that trouble to set up a company account To be able to do that and even then if somebody's not working for your company They're not necessarily going to be in your list and so that becomes an issue It's it there It would be nice if there was an elegant and safe way for you to say yes I would like to order And I even maybe it would require the person you're ordering for to have an account To say like I would like to order Veronica an uber. Here's her account So you can verify it's her and yes, I'm paying but it's for this person. Yeah. I mean, I guess that would Require everyone to have an uber account which on from uber's perspective is probably good. Yeah, right It wouldn't work in all cases though, right if I want to send an uber to pick up my mom She's not yeah, or your kid. That's yeah, I mean people send their kids to school in ubers I'm sure that's got to be a thing that happens, right? Do is that right? Yeah, I can't imagine it's not Someone's had to have done that I don't know. Yeah But in that case, I would definitely want to give An account get an account for the child. No I'm sure under 13. Can you get an account? I don't know. I don't know Yeah, anyway, uh teenagers use it though. So you must be able to Well, yeah, I mean over 13 copa Is the copa limit that where you have to you can't collect certain amounts of information about people. So, uh Yeah, it's uh, it's an interesting situation and big thanks to our anonymous former driver and to succani For writing in and sharing some of their insight into it And that's it for this episode of the daily tech news show. Thank you. Veronica Beaumont, of course This is a fantastic Opportunity for you to tell folks more about what's going on with you Oh, well, if you would like to check out the uh, the company I work for you can go to grow bot dot i o We're gonna have a new website up very soon and I'm excited about it. Um, thank you. I'm managing. I'm heading up that design process Which is cool. 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Talk to you then This show is part of the frog pants network Get more at frog pants dot com Diamond club hopes you have enjoyed this program boom we Good show Yeah spectacles tech news watch and learn snapples Snapple Oh snap Oh snap showbot.tv has the headlines If you're wondering where we're getting these we're not making them up They're coming from you if you're watching live you can go vote and submit Showbot.tv snap holes is pretty good. I also do like um, where was the other one? Google centromeda strain nice. I see the glass is gaff full that That's pretty good. Yeah nicely done looks like snap holes is pushing pushing ahead prince will come Because disney I get it The right to free breach. Hmm high concept there for sure Blue lipstick optional. I like that Self esteem not included snapchat spectacle Self esteem Snapjet spectacles not hideous Not hideous. I look like snap holes is pulling. Oh, yeah, it's all the way with it. All right. That's fine All right, fine. We both go fine. Your genius idea will win All right, cool. All right. Well veronica. I'm sure you have to go back to work But thank you as always too. I do have a great day. Good luck with the rest of your roger free time I'm gonna I miss him so much. I miss him. I miss him So sad. All right. All right. Take care. Bye. Bye Uh, so it's just me ladies and gentlemen and I'm still levelating. So I'm just gonna chat with the chat room for a little bit while we wait Stoic squirrel. I admire your commitment to spreading snap holes as a thing Sergeant muffin starts the hashtag free roger Free him from his car that he's stuck in with his kid and wife right now drive back to san francisco Uh, thank you bio Cal for thanking us. I'm glad you think it was a great show I am Fascinated by this snapchat. I still not sure what to make of it I don't know whether it's a Brilliant way of getting people talking about snapchat or whether it's a Just kind of like an irrelevant idea Oh, uh, strike it rich. Why is roger moving? We might talk a little more about this on the hangout tomorrow morning roger Has a family thing with his wife. Uh, and so they're going to be moving in With his wife's dad and they were looking for a house Yeah, the gecko 7 can't get over in an app company is somehow now a camera company this these spectacles are the first camera That I think they can legitimately claim And it's not it's really more of a device to snap with Maybe a photography company But i'm not but a camera company. We shouldn't quote them on that. I don't know if they actually said camera company particularly Dark redeemer did not think it was a great show. He thought it was a stupenda show Thank you, sir Tinvec likes the new video format. They're eliminating the care for landscape slash portrait. Oh, yeah, the that the rounded video is interesting Uh, I at first thought that was one of the stupidest things about this and then when I realized what they were doing with it I changed my mind, uh Because it it actually I don't know that it solves The portrait landscape controversy, but it certainly minimizes it if it doesn't really matter What orientation you're holding your phone in? uh Then That controversy just kind of goes away I love that Oh, jeez the guy who's supposedly drilled a hole in his iphone 7. That's hilarious uh Exporting the show now Back to the early days of dts when I just talked to you alone while I exported the show Dark redeemer wants to imagine movies filmed in the circle so that That's interesting So if I if I rent a movie I can watch it on my phone portrait or landscape. I don't know that I need that But it's fascinating to know that I could It's sort of like when they edit for a screen when they edited for 4 3 And you'd lose parts of the the picture sometimes that is honestly a problem, but If it's shot that way intentionally Uh beatmaster asks if there's any chance to see jenny j 23 jenny josephson one of these days Uh, hopefully if all goes well, she's going to be able to join us on the analyst hang out Tomorrow because it's uh, it's a good time of the morning for her At marketplace. So yeah, I actually met with jenny yesterday at la potfest We sat down and got a chance to talk catch up for a little while. She's doing great I think the first time I see a rounded video in my feed I'm just going to be like turning my phone back and forth for quite a long time What is it brian brushwood? I am live on the internet Yeah, yeah, we're done. Uh, it's post show A lot of you don't realize brian lives with me and eileen Just just upstairs. Yeah, all that austin. That's just a green screen. Yeah, awesome stuff Um, do you shall I mute for this or do you have a question? Yeah, okay? You started reading that economics article I gave you to go to sleep It's perfect. Thank you. No, but Nobel prize winner for sleep Exactly That's awesome. Uh, yeah, I'm just exporting here. I'll be done shortly Awesome Uh cap jack 913 asked night attack in la and he actually wrote na in la Yes, indeed he do in fact, justin robber young will be here too I don't know how we're gonna pull that off, but we'll figure it out Yeah, we did that one time didn't we Oh, I think we had you sit here and justin and I cozyed up or something. I don't remember Well, we did with andrew we did weird things with the whole couch We'll we'll figure it out. Yeah, even if it's just a static shot Did you know that the sandwich once had the reputation of being merely a food item that gamblers and drinkers used? Yeah Uh, because they were the first to adopt it because it was convenient And they're like well sandwich that's what those gamblers and drinkers is so I declared it the official sandwich of night attack Is the official food of night attack? Sorry. Yeah, that makes more sense than the sandwich is the official sandwich of night attack Also night attack the official show of night attack Uh, right. I am ready to upload. Thank you all for hanging around and watching you guys are the best Go and spread the love and we will talk to you on cord killers later today at four o'clock pacific or on d2s tomorrow. Goodbye