 Shalom and praise the Lord. Thank you everyone for joining this weekly mentoring hour. We're so glad that all of you could join this morning. Jai Masi, faster. Jai Masi sabko. Just so glad to have all of you on this mentoring hour this morning. This mentoring hour we basically, one of our faculty will share very briefly on a topic after which we will leave the time open for all of you to ask any questions if you have based on what was shared or if you have any doubts you could even ask your doubts so you can please feel free to you know type your doubts or your questions that you have in the chat section or you could even unmute your mics and ask your doubts and questions. Your doubts and questions can be based on what was shared this morning or it could also be some things that were pertaining to what was taught in the class the lectures or you know something pertaining to life to ministry what you're reading from the Word of God if you have any doubts you could even go ahead and ask your doubts and questions. This morning we have Pastor Jay Kumar Isaiah who would share on the topic the renewed mind before we call on Pastor Jay Kumar to share can one of our students please lead us in prayer anyone can lead us in prayer please. Can I ask Anne Prezi Binu to lead us in prayer and or Jay Ram anyone can lead us in prayer please this morning one of the students. Heavenly Father we just thank you once again for this hour of mentoring Father we just pray a lot that as we study your word Lord that your word will come alive and speak to us Father and speaking to the into our lives Father and help us continue to grow in your word Lord we also pray Lord that you'll give us a hunger for your word Father and you you help us to spend more time in your word Lord and live out our lives Lord that will bring glory to your name Father we just pray a lot for a blessing upon all our staff and all the students Lord and this this day in the days to come you know help us grow a lot into your likeness we ask all of this Lord Jesus in thy precious name Amen. Thank you very much Sanjay over to Pastor Jay Kumar Isaiah he will be sharing on the renewed mind. Hey good morning everyone glad to be here let me just share the screen today we're looking at an interesting topic something that something that can be life-changing actually so it's about I hope you can share the I mean you can see the screen it's about renewing the mind and how renewing the mind is a key for transformation right one of the things that can aid us in transformation now when we look at this word transformation it means it's a marked dramatic and radical change a marked change something that is very tangible dramatic change and a radical change you know so that's transformation and the Greek word used you know in Romans chapter 12 verse 2 is metamorpho which means you know the picture there is that of a larva becoming a butterfly the process the whole process of transformation changing from one state to another where we see that the first stage and the last stage you know there's no visible you know a likelihood there's similarity it's total change right so it's a transformation is a marked dramatic somebody raised their hand so what we'll do is we'll take about 10 minutes to finish and then you can ask questions sugar cake what things see your race and I don't know if it was a mistake anyway so the transformation is you know it's a marked dramatic radical change right so as believers in the Lord Jesus Christ and as ministers so we are looking for change like in the lives of people who we are ministering to and personally in our own lives as we follow the Lord Jesus and as we walk journey with him we are looking for change and the Lord is looking for change in us right and we are changed and change happens at times unintentionally you know like we are in the presence of God and we are changed like second Corinthians 3 and verse 18 said we are changed just as behold is glory we are changed from one level of glory to another into the same image that we behold so it happens unintentionally certain changes like biological growth also happens until unintentionally but changes when it comes to maturity and spiritual growth it is intentional right so we see that we are looking for change we want change right now in our own lives you know change in the way we think change in the way we speak change in the way we act maybe we want we want to see change and maybe we are working at it and we want to see that change in others as well and change from you know who we are to who we are in Christ no we know that that potentially this is who we are in Christ we know the you know the truth of who we have become in Christ but we see that that change has to has to manifest that change has to happen because we are spirit soul and body and we are changed in our spirit as new creations and the soul part of us which is our mind our will our emotions everything okay go a little slow fine so that needs change right so from who we are to who we know that we have become in Christ that truth to be conformed to the image of Christ in other words Christ likeness to be changed from from glory to glory to be changed to the image of Christ right so so change can happen or change we all we all look forward to change right but we see in this scripture Romans chapter 12 and verse 2 it says that and do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God right just want to draw our attention to you know a few words here one is do not be conformed to this world meaning don't fit into the pattern of this world don't fit into the world's way of doing things the world's way of thinking etc but be transformed okay be transformed how by the renewing of your mind okay so we see that a key for transformation or a or a way to see transformation in our lives is to renew our mind or change our mind our change our thoughts right so we see that transformation is linked to our thoughts or more specifically transformation is linked to our renewed thoughts right so non-versely the other thing other way also can happen in a transformation for good or transformation into Christlikeness happens this way but transformation into something else or you know a transformation or into something that we don't want to see also can happen when up when because it is linked to our undrenewed thoughts right when our thoughts are not renewed then there can be no transformation into Christlikeness but on the other hand it can happen you know it instead of positive change we can see that there is there is negative change or there is no change right so very so so again let's look at that verse again so do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind so it is linked to our thoughts so which means that our thoughts are powerful okay our thoughts our thoughts are powerful our imaginations matter our ideas ideas have consequences you know when we implemented here are some fun facts about thoughts you know so the the scientists say that as a human being we have about 70,000 thoughts per day you know during our waking moment waking moments the times and we are awake 70,000 thoughts okay can you imagine even as you are sitting here there are thoughts going on you know you might be thinking about breakfast you might be thinking about you know the fact that you're hungry or you might be focusing on what is being what you are hearing what is being said so there are thoughts going on okay secondly the speed of thought is 268 miles per hour you know between these neurons in our brain the speed of thought I don't know how they calculated it but they did it it's 268 miles per hour which is faster than a formula one racing car a formula one racing car a pantry goes at 230 miles per hour or maximum 240 miles per hour but the speed of thought is much much faster 268 miles per hour and what about the capacity capacity of our mind right to hold things the capacity to retain things right apparently it's 2.5 petabytes which means it's 2.5 million gigabytes right so they say that 3 million hours of videos actually potentially theoretically it can actually store right so so our thoughts are powerful our mind is powerful and when when we renew or make new our mind it results in transformation right okay so since thoughts are powerful thoughts are influential you know thoughts influence our actions right if you look at it before every action whether it's there could be a conscious thought which means we intentionally plan and do it let's say you're you're thinking I'm feeling hungry I feel like having a Masal dosa and one filter coffee right so you plan there is a thought and then you act on but thoughts can also be not conscious or subconscious right someone throws something and as a reflex action you know we lift our hands and catch it something comes and then we duck it can be also you know subconscious unintentional but a thought is there before every action so thoughts influence our actions actions influence our behavior and therefore it results in our lifestyle but it begins with our thoughts so thoughts are powerful if you want to change anything if you want to change our action if you want to change our behavior we want to change our lifestyle it begins with the thoughts our lifestyle doesn't change because of our behavior or action but it starts by because of the change in our thoughts thoughts also affect our thoughts are powerful thoughts affect our emotions influence our emotions for example if we you know if you are continuing to think negative thoughts or thoughts which are you know you think that thoughts of failure or negative thoughts thoughts that something bad will happen something that will never be you know success in life fearful thoughts it affects our emotions it affects our mood right so we we we have a bad mood or we are in a negative mood we are in a fearful mood because of our thoughts right so thoughts affect our emotions influence our emotions thoughts also thoughts also influence our imaginations and our imaginations can actually make us or break us I just think about it right if you are continuing to imagine good things positive things it can make us right it can make us meaning it can empower us to go out and do do things or if we are thinking of our imagination is full of things that that are negative and and something you know something that is that can be a project then it can impair us right we will be we will we will be imprisoned because of our imaginations that we will not venture out and do anything so again goes on to say how powerful thoughts are okay so let's look at the second part of that verse which says that be transformed by the renewing of your mind so there is transformation available transformation where this possible because transformation our thoughts transformation our speech action everything and it's linked to the renewing or making new of our of our minds right and specifically our thoughts right so when we say renew it can mean either to repair or fix you know maybe there's imaginations or thoughts that are hurting us that are hurtful and that can be fixed that can be made new the pad it also means to renovate renovate meaning you know rearrange I maybe you want to renovate your house renovate your room you know change the furniture a bit maybe you know maybe the you know as soon as you enter the door there there is a there is a sofa that is there blocking the way and you're not able you have to you know things are congested and so on it needs to be arranged and the sofa needs to be put in the right place chairs need to be put in the right place so that it can be comfortable so it needs renovation and sometimes it means reformation or reformation restructuring of things maybe a wall needs to be broken down right those are serious structural changes but this is what it means you know it encompasses everything being renewed so when there's renewal there is transformation okay so why renew very quickly a few things here you know renewal obviously renewing of our thoughts results in transformation but we also need to understand that our mind is a battlefield right let me just read a few verses here first Peter 2 and verse 11 it says that first Peter 2 verse 11 it talks about how just a piece okay I thought I'll present that I don't have that here okay first Peter 2 and verse 11 this is what it says it says beloved I beg you as sojourners and pilgrims abstain from fleshly lusts which war against the soul so we see it's a battlefield so these fleshly lusts which actually war against our soul so if there are lustful thoughts if there are we are giving into fleshly lusts it's it's war it's combat it's battle so in in a war there are casualties in a bar war there are you know their lives are lost and there is damage collateral damage and that happens in our minds right so things that maybe we built up over the years no faith and truth which are built up that is broken down because we entertain fleshly lusts it's a battlefield prob 632 33 also talks about the same thing that adultery talks about the act of adultery how it it damages our soul right which is mind will and emotions second thing is our understanding we need to understand that we can have different mindsets okay and renewal actually helps change that mindset if you look at 1 Corinthians 2 and verse 14 1 Corinthians 2 and verse 14 says for the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God for they are foolishness to him nor can he know them because they are spiritually discerned so it talks about the natural man for a person with a natural mindset which means that they are driven by what is rational only and not open to faith not open to things of the Spirit right so it says here that man does not receive so you know if I need to receive the things of the Spirit I need to renew my mind from a natural mindset to a spiritual mindset right then it talks about carnal mind that's even more dangerous Roman chapter 8 says those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh and it says to be kindly minded is death because the carnal mind is enmity against God it is not subject to the law of God nor indeed can be so here's a believer having a carnal mindset a believer born again new creation but having a carnal mindset so he can he's unable he's enmity of God it says here it's not subject to the law of God and not indeed can be so it's the whole life everything's the bellig against God okay and thirdly another reason is stronghold you know there are thoughts there are reasonings there are arguments couple added with emotions and imaginations which are like strong holes in our minds you know fortresses in our minds so these thought patterns or these strong holes pull us back every time we want to do something holes is back it's like a stronghold it's like a prison and these strongholds need to come down and thoughts strongholds need to come down we need to renew our mind and not be conformed but be transformed and strongholds can be brought down and second Corinthians 10 talks about that and how there are arguments and how there are reasonings and we bring them down every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God these needs to be brought down okay okay so how do we renew okay lastly this is the last thing how do we renew so we renew by a simple thing and there are there's more to it but we renew our minds by discarding like throwing away certain things that we do not want or we do not need now when you renovate your house you throw away unnecessary things which are holding dust throw away unnecessary things that are toxic so carnal earthly and corrupt thoughts we discard them the minute the Holy Spirit points out hey this is not really good maybe thoughts of vengeance maybe thoughts of you know giving into temptation discouraging thoughts you know thoughts of the thoughts of the futile and so on right we discard or we drop it off you know we don't entertain them secondly to take on God's thoughts and God's ways right which is the opposite of discarding right so God's thoughts God's ways we hold on okay and then we tear down these strongholds we bring down these strongholds you know we know there are certain things that have been stubborn that have been part of our life for so many years and we are not you know we are unable to move or see victory in those areas like these are strongholds these need to be drawn down right brought down and it starts by one thought it starts with renewing of one thought at a time and lastly to meditate on the word of God God's ways God's thoughts God's words are God's opinions God's ideas and these are powerful God's word is powerful God's word washes us and that is what we see God's word I just want to James chapter 1 and verse 21 says receive the implanted word which is able to save our soul right lay aside all filthiness and overflow wickedness and receive with meekness the implanted word which is able to save our soul so we meditate on the word of God and also pray in the Holy Ghost rain tongues which builds us up in the inner man and you know we are edified we are made strong in our spirit and we are renewed to have the mind of Christ right so these are some simple ways by which we can renew our mind okay so we'll stop here and maybe there are questions and we will we can discuss we can answer those questions other faculty also there they belong to answer thank you pastor Jay Kumar for sharing on the renewed mind the key for transformation Rin has a question says pastor how do we know if the thoughts that we have are from our own or from the devil or from God okay the source of our thoughts so we know that you know what is the objective of that thought right if we see that when something is from God especially I'm just thinking of John chapter 10 that the the Good Shepherd he comes to give life and and give life and in its fullness that the enemy comes to steal and kill and destroy if something that is that is blocking us from living a full life that Lord the Lord wants to live if something is inducing us to live a substandard life it can be in terms of giving in to temptation it could be in terms of not pursuing the destiny that God has for us not seeking first God and His kingdom so so we know that these are thoughts which are not helpful right and immediately there is there is a check if you are believers there is a check in our spirit by the Holy Spirit because the Holy Spirit is grieved when we entertain such thoughts the Holy Spirit immediately you know there is a witness in our spirit that something is not right and and we know the source is you know either it could be our under new mind and we are fleshly thinking or it could be from the enemy right but when it's from God we see that it's pure as what of God says it's pure it's it's feasible and it's holy and virtuous right and so we can pursue it we can entertain it we can take these and and and the most important thing is that it's in line with the with the word and it does not contradict the word it is in line with the word anyone else wants to add please go ahead how do we distinguish I'll just add to what Vasudev said in James 3 15 to 18 I just contrasts wisdom that comes from above and wisdom that's from the world so wisdom that's from above it you know it tells us it's it's it's it's it's pure it's peaceful it's gentle it's willing to yield it's merciful it has good fruit it's without partiality without hypocrisy so if our thoughts kind of fit in that frame we know it's from God whereas then you know in that same passage it says what's from you know what is an enemy self-seeking something that brings confusion something that disturbs that's the opposite of all this it's earthly sensuality morning so that's a good way to kind of just quickly distinguish is it from God is it not thank you pastor Jack Umar and pastor Ashish I hope we answered your question Rin okay we move on to the next question how do we handle dreams that affect our thoughts negatively that are always persistent how do we handle dreams that affect our thoughts negatively that are always persistent does anyone else want to handle this question okay I'll just say so we handle it the same way we would handle a negative thought when we know that this particular dream is not edifying right it's causing fear or it's causing me to act in ways that are that God wouldn't want me to act right maybe it's causing me to you know maybe it's a lustful dream or maybe it's a dream which is causing fear so then then we treated the same way the way we would treat a negative thought or a thought that has come from any other source apart from God so we would we would discard it we would not entertain it and and and the challenges here you know it is saying that it's persistent you know it's a recurring dream then we need to deal with it maybe it's it's the source is the enemy maybe it is you know it is demonic in nature we have been given the authority you know to deal with it so we pray and we and we declare and we and we break the power of the enemy also I think it's good to look into our own lives and see have I been you know what is it that I'm opening myself to you know it could be something that I'm reading something that I'm listening to something that I'm watching you know is that influencing my my dream because a dream is it could come from it could come because of that because of much activity things that we are actually putting in into our into our soul into our mind so it could come because of that also thank you anyone else thank you pastor Jay Kumar I think it's important you know what we are reading what we are watching what we are indulging in the entire day because you know that you know we have one of the sources of dreams is you know what our mind is preoccupied with so if we are preoccupied with things that are of the carnal mind that are of the fleshly mind or of the carnal nature or the natural mind then you know we would have these negative dreams and thoughts and so we need to you know get ourselves off things that we are watching that is not edifying that's not building a spirit man and you know our dreams and thoughts would naturally change to some things that are positive because God speaks to us through dreams and our dreams can also be useful in ways in which God can speak and minister to us yeah thank you for that question I hope we answered your question okay we'll move on to the next questions Shri Radha when we pray to resist our worldly thoughts we declare the word but still those thoughts come back sometimes is it intentional can any one of our faculty help in answering this question Shri Radha's question when we pray to resist our worldly thoughts we declare the word but still those thoughts come back sometimes is it intentional anyone would like to answer that yes yes pasta Selena I'll try to share my thoughts so when we resist worldly thoughts and we also declare the word some thoughts come back and Shri Radha we must look at this as it's not that our confession of the word our declaration of the word is not working but we need to give it some time and you know I would look at it that way so continue doing what you're doing continue to you know remain in the word and sometimes it takes a while before we see those those worldly fleshly thoughts in us uprooted and the mind completely renewed so it's just a matter of time and it's a matter of persisting in the word thank you thank you pasta Nancy I think it's more than just declaring God's word at those instances when we have these worldly thoughts it's important for us to you know fill our mind with the word of God the more we are filling our mind with the word of God you know the then you know we won't this worldly thoughts you'll find that would not be more intentional will not be frequent but you know and we will also be able to discern what is good and bad we will also be able to think in terms of what the word of God says so I think it's important for us to fulfill our mind with the word of God and also yes declare the word which will help thank you pasta Nancy for sharing your thoughts I hope he answered your questions we rather we'll move on to rinse question when our thoughts are clouded with evil and the fills of this world to renew our minds quickly what should we think of when our thoughts are clouded with evil and the fills of this world to renew our minds quickly what should we think of so see one of the things that we need to understand is you know what generally what Satan tries to deceive us is that we don't have control over our thoughts right so and Satan tries to deceive us that we don't have authority over our thoughts but that's not true right we can actually choose what to think about we can choose to stop thinking about certain things and certain things and we can choose not to right you can choose what we want to think about but our will needs to be strong are saying yes I will think about that that yes has to be strong and that is what Satan attacks where you know when we read the James one it talks about how our will is weakened right because of constant battering of these thoughts and we are giving into temptation we are in snag you know by our own desires right so so the thing is that so we need to understand that right so when we when we when we are discarding or putting off certain things you know you can we can right and how do we do it immediately well you can pray in the spirit praying in the spirit praying in tongues definitely can do that we can sing in the spirit you know singing is even one step further where our emotions are involved and we can sing and praise and worship God if if the environment is conducive right we can do that and that takes that shifts our focus from from these thoughts into what we need to be actually meditating on right so renewal again it's it's a process but we can shift our focus immediately right I hope that helps thank you pass I hope that helps ring okay we have on and Paul who's raised his hands so on and you can unmute your mic and ask your question question many times we want to change but on different situations are coming and we are not able to change so what will I do brah what will I do okay so this question is want to change but I'm unable to and so what should I do King does anyone want to take up that question like in addition to persisting in what we are doing anything else that you can add yeah just just a thought you know so we need to know change in our lives can happen even if it seems even if it seems impossible of course our will is involved that means we must be willing to change but the power to change comes from God and so this is where we ask the Holy Spirit for help because one the Bible tells us right we had second Corinthians chapter 3 verse 18 the Bible tells us that we are all changed from glory to clothing into that same image of Jesus by the spirit of God so change is possible and the Holy Spirit is going to help us change which means the Holy Spirit is more powerful than anything that's hindering the change in our lives whatever it may be maybe wrong thought it may be a strong hold in our mind it may be some bad experience that we've had whatever you want whatever it seems to be hindering that change the spirit of God is more powerful so from our side we must be willing to change then the Holy Spirit empowers that change so the second and the other things I would add to this is of course the word of God picture in our ceiling has been emphasizing the word of God and thirdly we need each other so sometimes in order to bring about a change in my life I need to get help and that help comes through another human being another believer right so that believer can speak into my life that believer can motivate me can encourage me can journey with me right so Paul writes about this in Galatians chapter 6 verses 1 2 and 3 right that you know we ought to support one another we have to help each other carry each other's burdens right so that means I come alongside and I help somebody a part of the journey so this is why you know we of course in a very formal way we would call it counseling or if we call it mentoring or whatever we want to call it but it's somebody else coming alongside you to help you make that change so God is working change in us through his word through his spirit and with somebody else with other believers right and I'll just close with this verse right Paul says in Philippians 2 verse 13 he says it is God who is at work in us both to make us willing and able to do his work right so God is working in us and he's doing two things he's making us willing he's making us able so the thing is change is possible when we open ourselves to God and all we have to do is say God I need that change I want the change then God works in us he makes us willing and able to do his work thanks thank you Pastor Ashish I hope he answered your question Anand Paul we'll go on to the next question from Prince Vidyadeep Pastor when renewing the mind especially when it comes to tearing down the stronghold there can be some wrong beliefs thoughts that are view about certain things that were in our mind for a long time and tearing down and discarding those thoughts and stronghold is not easy and results will not be immediate sometimes and it's frustrating and disappointing so how can we handle those situations you for faculty would like to answer this question yeah so Prince yes when it comes to tearing down strongholds these are things that have been built into our minds over a period of time right experiences good bad you know and along with that some imaginations and emotions everything is there tied in there so it's it becomes part of us and it's also entrenched in us but the thing is that when the word of God declares that transformation is possible we know that it is you know that is a truth so whatever be our experience we can persist with the truth we know that it's a process we know that these things are deeply entrenched but it can be brought down all the reasonings all arguments everything can be and will be brought down by the word of God by the spirit of God right and even as we cooperate and and like what pastor shared just now there's nothing that is more powerful right than the Holy Spirit and his ability to help us and his power in our lives right so Henry is the one who gives us the makes us willing and able right so so that's the thing so the thing is what do we expect you know what to expect when we come face to face with truth and when that contradicts something that we have been holding on to which has been part of our lives we can expect discomfort right it is it's because it's very opposite of what we have been holding yearly or the or the thought patterns and behaviors that we normally like default to in a situation this is what I do right but but when we encounter truth it can be uncomfortable right it can be painful even right and when we want to walk in truth it can seem very you know very different or you know when we are renewing our mind to the truth and saying I'm not going to I'm not going to take vengeance on that person I'm not going to shout back you know it it can be a struggle right and and that is expected so you you tell yourself yeah this is how it's going to be but then I'm going to persist you know I'm going to go through and we know that the flesh always struggles against the things of the spirit and you know the whatever the Holy Spirit brings to us is against the things of the flesh so there is that that conflict that struggle the praise god when we see you know talks about how when we are led by the spirit of God we will not fulfill okay so the loss of the flesh right so yeah so that is what I would say anything else that thank you pastor jack umar I hope we answered your question prince we'll move on to the next question at what point does God give us up to our worldly thoughts or a tea-based mind thank you for that question if you look at Romans chapter one you know Paul is writing to the church at Rome and he says that in verse 18 says for the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness so after knowing the truth and you suppress the truth and you willingly do not conform to the truth or to the pattern of God's word then God will give you up to you know your own choice whatever you want to do however you want to go also in the same chapter it says that you know the God has made known his invisible attributes through creation the eternal power of God is visible in creation so men are without excuse but even after knowing God you know they don't glorify him as God was 21 no were thankful but became futile in their thoughts and their foolish hearts were darkened so two things here is you know after knowing the truth you don't live the truth you don't conform to the truth but you willingly choose to go in ways of unrighteousness then God will give you up to your own you know desires and choice that you want to make and also after knowing God but you don't glorify him as God you don't give him the rightful place in your life could also you know God you know can also lead you to going to worldly into worldly thoughts and to having a debased mind can any of the other faculty want to add to this question okay i hope we answered your question we'll move on to the next question again from Rin pastor we can go for counseling if you're struggling with our thoughts right yes you could you can meet a counselor you can get help you also have the holy spread in you who is the wonderful counselor who can help you and would counsel you and guide you but yes you can always go to a counselor as well if you're struggling with your thoughts and of course the word of God and the holy spirit is there always to help you to counsel you with the thoughts and you know serena sorry to there are two hands that have gone up kofi asante and yeah yes yeah okay so we'll have kofi unmute your mic and ask a question please thank you pastor salina my question has to do with march 2 chapter 19 verse 16 and 17 a certain man went to jesus christ and asked what to do in order to be saved or to have eternal life jesus answered saying the man have to obey the commandment jesus asked the man to obey the commandment this man justify himself by saying it is something that he has been doing jesus went further and said he should sell all his things the good the properties that he has and then come and follow him i would like to know at what point is this man transformation going to take place is this at the point of obeying the commandment or at the point of selling what he has at one point is transformation going to take place transformation of the mind and the acts going to take place is it at the point of selling the things that he has or at the point of obeying the commandment thank you Thank you Kofi for your question. Would any of our faculty like to answer Kofi's question please? Yeah Kofi, thank you for that question. So I think we need to look at this incident in its entirety. So God is dealing, the Lord Jesus is interacting with an individual, the rich man. So the rich man, there's a context and there's a story in his life and the Lord Jesus is addressing the real issues but he's leading up to it. So every question he's asking is actually leading up to the transformation or everything he's saying. So the first thing is pointing to the law, keep the commandments. Now that doesn't mean that salvation comes through keeping the commandments but the reason Jesus is doing that is because he knows this person in the sense this man is a man who has been living by this but Jesus is leading up to something. The real issue with this rich young man is his love for his earthly possessions but Jesus is starting at a point where this man is very comfortable. He's very comfortable in the sense that here I've been a very morally upright person, I've been living by the law. So when Jesus is doing, keep the commandments. See I've done all of that already, very good. He's made this man very comfortable but he's going to move towards the real issue. What's the real issue? It's his love for money. So then Jesus challenges and he says okay you've done that, you've kept all the commandments so morally you're upright but the problem is in your heart and what's the problem? It's not the problem that he had a lot of riches. The problem is his heart is so tied up with those riches so that's where Jesus challenges him. Can he go sell everything and come follow me and that's what he couldn't do. So in this particular case, in this individual's case, this is one particular incident, we can't take it and apply it to everybody but Jesus is really dealing with a heart issue. So to answer your question, real transformation will come when the heart is changed and the heart is fully set upon Jesus and for each of us it's different meaning in this particular case this rich man's heart was set upon his riches for somebody else their heart may be set upon something else. But for us to follow Jesus and real transformation will happen when our heart is fully set upon Jesus. I hope that helps now Kofi. Thank you. Thank you Pasashish. We've come to the end of our, thank you Kofi. We've come to the end of our mentoring art. I see Getrude's hand and Sanjay's hand up or Satish's hand up. We also have Lucy's question. Lucy, I made a note of your question. So next week when we begin our mentoring hour we will answer your question. We will also have Getrude and Satish ask your question and we will answer that next week. Sorry we ran out of time. We'll end this mentoring hour. Thank you all for being part of this mentoring hour. Have a blessed day. God bless you. Thank you. Pastor Nancy would you like to stop the recording?