 Meeting to order of 601. Are there any revisions to the agenda? Any public comments and correspondence? Is there a motion to approve the minutes of May 23rd? I'll second it. Please hold them out. I can see that. I've got to know your body and facial expressions as you're... Any discussion of the minutes as it's on page two and three? Got it. He's got it. He's got it. Welcome, thank you. I'm Scott. No, look. He's got it. He's got it. Sure. I didn't see any. I see. None of you. Did you bring the car? So, we're ready for the question. All those in favor of approving the minutes of May 23rd as drafted? You say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Distentions? So that puts us into the discussion agenda. And the first item is planning or building an agenda for the carousel meeting that'll happen next Monday. So... Do you want me to start? Yeah, I love it. So one of the things that we're really trying to do is have a celebration of the great work that Washington Central has done over the past 44 years. And we're thinking of doing something simple that I've seen that participated in before that kind of... That I think is simple but powerful at the same time and it gets everyone's votes in the room. So we're going to hand everyone that comes in. Board members, administrators and public there. Everyone's going to get... We have them out in the counter entertainment but they're eight by five color stickies. And people will get three stickies and talk about and either on each sticky make a great... What was a great accomplishment that happened while you were here? Eight by five? Yeah. That's big. Yeah, but you don't have markers. You're supposed to write it because you don't write it. I'll make sure I say that. You're just helping me make sure I say that. People don't agree because there's going to be some silence in this and then there's going to be some talking. So it's really important. So everyone writes three of celebrations that happen as you help Washington Central. I think I'll just say it just that way, not whether you're a board member or whoever you are. And then you'll get another color which you'll have two, which are what are your hopes and dreams, right? A hope or dream or both of dreams or hopes on the two other colors. And we're going to post those in another place in the cafeteria. And then once they're all posted, everyone reads. And literally I'm going to ask for quiet and not talking. That's going to be really hard because we naturally as a group like to... But it's really important that it's silent. The silence and talking are really important in this exercise to get the tone right. And so you read and you read what's there. And then I'll watch and I'll pick a couple of people who I know they're reading paste to kind of help me for time. And when it looks like most people have read, well I'll ask everyone is to go grab two accomplishments that aren't yours and one hope or dream that's not yours. And literally we'll stand in a big circle and read these. And we'll read the accomplishments first and the hopes and dreams. And then we'll literally take all those hopes and dreams that have been read and symbolically place them in a place to be given to the Washington Central Unified Union School District Board. And we'll take them up and have those handed off. And that will take about 45 to 50 minutes to almost an hour. It takes a while to do this. But it's a good way of just a quiet recognition of great work. That sounds good. What? Indoor plumbing? Sorry. So those are the, Matthew and I talked about this a couple of times. And it's the plan that I've been thinking about a way of recognizing them, supporting the transition in a way of being symbolic about the work we're doing. That sounds awesome. I like it. Any thoughts or any answer for it? I really like it. I know Chomney's been talking about for months actually wanting to find some way of recognizing the work that the boards have done. Some of them are not going to be operating possibly as they have been after June 30th. Did you say some of them? Some of them. Like all of them. There's a stout board that's going to be. Exactly the union district board I guess. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, this seems to fit that purpose or that sentiment to some extent. You know, Mike, just as I said, have you seen the work where everyone gets to read? What? Have you seen the work where everyone gets to read? Yeah, that's why we're trying to get everyone to read. To read? Oh, okay. So everyone grabbed, like Chris, you make three, right? And you make two. What? After everyone's read for a while. And I'll say. You know what I mean is we don't laugh. Oh yeah, that's why we stand in a big circle. Okay. Everyone, everyone, everyone's got stuff. But they're not their own. No, no. You literally cannot pick your own. Right. You have to pick two. And the idea is that you give, you want everyone to produce one extra and we can keep all. But the idea is that the salient, the most salient ones that speak to everyone will get read. And it's not like most likely everyone's going to have at least one of theirs read. And, you know, that, well, it's usually good to have three for each, but it's just, I was trying to also compact it a little bit. So that's why I went two for the hopes and dreams and read one. And then we'll just, and I'll say everything that's up here is on the wall. I've been read. We'll, we'll get recorded and given to the new board. But that everyone's voice, that's the whole point of that. And that's the really importance of silence. And then, okay, now we're going to come together. You're going to do this. And then we, I'll ask her, who would like to go first? I'll do this. We'll be using restorative practice. Who would like to go first? And before you read, which direction would you like to go? And everyone, and then we'll go around the circle and we'll do all the, all the celebrations first. And down the one round of hopes or dreams. Hopes and dreams, whatever. Matthew, may I ask perhaps you and Rick, because the other three of us are continuing. How was the movement of the board? How was the movement of the board members? Is there like a lame duck friend of mine? Or is it, is it sort of nostalgia? On the Doty board? Yeah, on the Doty board, right. We hadn't met super recently, to be honest with you. I think the beginning of May, that was when we met last. In the middle of May, because we had to do the little rinse while hiring. That's right. But I would say maybe a little bit of that. But not, you know, there's not a lot of like, rending garments and gnashing teeth. But there's just a sense of, you know, there's some decisions to be made at some point about, as every district is considering, fund balance and capital fund. And, you know, some kind of curiosity, I guess, about the unknown. The sense that, you know, we're not going to be operating as a group. But I guess, at least I can always speak for the Doty board, but I know it's a sense that there's a great deal of like, people checking out. No, no, certainly not. Yeah, I wouldn't say it should be anything that I've seen. Yeah, I don't see much of it. Pretty good, I think we ought to do it. And we're going to, we'll do it. Yeah. That's great, that's great. We tried to do it like a nostalgic celebration. And we had cards for everybody. And I'll take a picture to talk with the four members and, you know, some flowers. And then we tried to make like a longer statement to send to the board. And nobody was there. Everybody was like, I'll ask to touch your feeling. You know, like just, we're going to keep paying, basically we're going to keep paying attention. We're not like totally, you know, like. And that's great. So, but not, there's no mood of being sad or, you know, spending things. You know, it was definitely the end of an era for some. And they've been checking, yesterday, a couple of them emailed us that how's it going, you know. So, yeah. I think as Johnny puts it, endings aren't important. Yeah. That's what she says over and over again. You know, we talked about some kind of historical counting of all the things that Doty Boards accomplished over the years. And Worcester being a, you know, a plaintiff and the Brigham case and stuff Allen had done long before that and other people had done long before that. And we never could figure out when to do it because we talked about doing it at a town meeting. But then, you know, when town meeting happened, we didn't really, you know, we still don't know, really. So I mean, you know, we never really sort of had a sense of determined finality. And then when we had the town meeting where we held the district budget vote, you know, we thought about doing it then too. But we had a very little turnout to that meeting, you know. So, and again, unless it makes a return, probably the last one. So, yeah. But, you know, it is where it goes. I don't think we're suffering from all that. I think Allen was pictured in the New York Times magazine around the brilliant decision I thought. Might be interesting to let that out. This is, that's my memory, which sometimes is not always out here. But I thought, you know, yeah. I think it was pictured in the New York Times magazine. Sunday, Sunday. What do you have to do with the New York Times magazine? The New York Times magazine. We did talk about doing something later. So at the end, because we were trying to, but it seemed like there were too many polls in the air when we were trying to do something final for a board and we wanted more community members. And actually Ruben was the one that mentioned that maybe we could do it later. And I know other places have done it once they've been transitioned for a little bit. So what we're doing on the 17 will be great. And then once we've been operating for a little bit, we can have a celebration or even when we design our new name or whatever and a recognition. And I don't know that would happen at this meeting if there would be, I do think you have mentioned inviting other board members that have been. Yeah, and we just haven't got it on top of that. We can still send out an email, but maybe we can do it now. Maybe we can do it later because it would be nice to have like that. I thought it was a very thoughtful suggestion for the exercise. They're well timed and all the board members will be there and it's just a good way of marking and sort of reflecting and then also looking forward and as you say passing on to the new board kind of thinking at that moment. So it seems like we're good. Yes, I'm not really sure actually what business we have to conduct at this meeting, if any. So maybe there's a higher. We have a higher. You've heard a. Well, I'm not this. There's no official business as the SU. Okay. There are some official businesses as local boards. We're going to be literally, I mean as of today, we're almost finished with having debt calculations and what can be left in fund balance and what can be moved to capital fund. There's a requirement that I'm trying to find out through Scott Cameron. There's a requirement in the default articles that every local board transfer the property before June 30th to the new board. So we're trying to see if that actually has to be done by the board or the default articles. Just make that happen. Because I anticipate the question being, so we have to do this. Because it's just the way the questions have been. And so that's a question that's actually going through several attorneys in the education right now. But whether it has to be done can just be allowed to be done. Yeah, that's a tricky one. Because of the court action. Yeah, I mean there's several pieces to that. And I expect people to feel that way. I think the court action, I don't know. So I'm not going to get into the guessing now. So I guess I'm a little confused. Because when we're not signed, but we'll have the draft articles of agreement. Do you already have a default? We already have default. So in the default, it already says that... Local boards must do this. It says the word must. Oh, I see. So we haven't actually done that by getting the article. So it's not done yet. See, so this is the debate that can happen. Yeah, I'm just saying, I just don't want to get into it. Yeah, no, no. I don't want to get into the debate. I just thought that... So if the board so choose to transform, that's why the question is what if they don't? And I will say to the boards, what I'm saying to you, I'm not... I don't think you should debate it. I think you should either decide to do it or not do it. Do a vote and move on. Because you'll be there forever on that question. People know where people feel about that and just let it be. Because it's going to... Either way, it's going to be cleaned up on the other side. There's work on the other side to finish it. So you're going to tonight give a little bit of information about the superintendent transition plan tonight. I assume that we should also have that on the agenda. That's probably a good one to get that one, yeah. Okay. And then we'll be planning to maybe as part of that, just a heads up though, to recognize your service and say and do a few things. We'll try to keep it more simply short for you. We realize you're... Whatever. Now spotlight will be a guide. But yeah, we definitely feel like we have something to say. So other than that, that may be the meeting. Yeah. I mean, I, you know, these... Like I said, there's things in the local carousels. Those are the two big ones. And so it's how much of a discussion. We want that with everyone. And I know Flora, you and I were talking, as we were prepping for the East Montcullier, you were hoping that there would be more of a discussion across all the boards instead of in the individual boards. So I don't know if you want that to be part of the... Just an initial. An initial about working for the NE and the local boards. I mean, you were very clear. Local boards have the authority on this. And so that was just one of your ass. Clear on the... Which one? The... She was clear about the responsibility of the local. She would just like to hear some discussion amongst others of where are we playing the land on what we're leaving in fund balances. You know, Chris, you and I had a little bit of a discussion on that too, what are the boards doing. So it's some sharing and some information I'm thinking. I don't know if you do want to do just that, or you want to talk about the property one. I'm trying to actually just let the property as much as I can. I'm just trying to figure... I haven't... Scott hasn't been able to get back to me. He won't be able to until tomorrow or Thursday on what the ramifications are. And I've asked him to put in a letter of what the ramifications are. Matthew? Yeah. May I also put in a pitch if you could sort of advertise the budget forum the next day, Tuesday, because I'm sure that everybody will leave on Monday wanting to come to another meeting. Oh, I see. So at this meeting you're saying I should make sure that people know the details and... So you've got to put in a plan. What I might suggest is that we broaden the topic to a unified union school district update. And in there you can talk about that. Sure. Okay. And I think most people will know, but there might be other topics after tomorrow night that you want to touch on. And so that gives you that opening to go to other places. Okay. Thank you. So that can be another... I think there's something... Yeah. And maybe we'll put... Yeah, we'll try to figure out the order of these. But the... And Scott, I assume you and Bill will take the lead on that piece of it, right? Yeah, we usually confer before and after each meeting. They've been doing that. Yeah. And my understanding is that Deborah is unable to attend. She isn't, too. I haven't asked her, but at least I didn't today. I will confirm that. Right. Let me confirm that. I think that's what I told him earlier. That's quite a bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I know she's busy. I will extend the invitation either way. Okay. I have a question. When do VSPA2s get made? Because I would think... I mean, we're not going to really be important. I think we need to realistically have a discussion. We're having one tomorrow. Well, I meant, you know, I know that just... You know, I wanted to know when they're actually... Well, a decision be made. And September is when they have been paid in the past. So we know... They can go longer, is what I said to Scott. They can't go probably past November or December, but you have some time. Because I didn't know realistically about switching, you know, allegiance on that after what went on the past few years. They were not... They were very partisan in that. They were not representing a lot of the board. Yeah. You're welcome to come to... I will be there. Okay. I'll be there. Okay. But I think that... I really just like to see that, this strong discussion around that. And both sides are not loaded. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know... It's not tomorrow. It's not. I think, well... Well, the thing is, I don't... Like, like... I don't even know what day it is, so... I wish you well. You're welcome. Thank you. All right. So that's basically the meeting on the 17th. And I think we're good to move to the second item on the discussion agenda, which is an update from middle on superintendent transition. So Deborah and I met last week and we kind of laid out a plan. Some of it's happening on-site and some of it's happening off-site. She and I met last Wednesday and planned out that with everything that she has to do for Greater Rockland Supervisory Union and we need to do here that she came up today for from eight to three and we were doing transition issues. We're going to touch base again on Thursday and Friday after she's had time to process some of the things we went through today. We have some shared documents that are going around and then she has access right now into our internal documents. That we use for operations around here whether it be leadership team website slash team website central office. She's in emails now getting everything into her U32 email. So we're in touch base by phone again. See you Thursday or Friday it's in my calendar. And then next Monday she's up here from 8 to 12 and she's going to sit in on a central office team meeting which is a weekly administrative meeting which is the central office administrator plus Keith and Mike Martin which we consider central office as IT and Carla as the HR person. So she's going to be part of that. She's then she will be supporting the team that's here on site from July one on even though she won't be here until July 15th. She's willing to do that through multiple modes of communication. She just can't be here. And I'm the superintendent record and I'm supporting through June 30th. So folks have there's been some questions about when I'm finishing up my actual time on site which is June 17th. That's my last physical day here. And a couple of weeks ago as people were rushing I was like guys I can come in. I can be called you know and it's not like I'm going to I'm going to sneak. I'm going to sneak in and I'm going to move on to action. Alaska would be the better place. I would be on that one floor all those sort of possibilities. I would take that very quickly and fast. But now I'm around and yeah I said if you need something or you're not sure what to do I'm the superintendent record to June 30th. So just as we do with other vacations you've got my cell phone you don't have to get me. So and Deborah's you know we're going to talk a little bit. There's we have a little bit of issue down around the contract. We're trying to work on some of the date issues on the contract. They weren't as smooth as they could have been. But we need to ask the secretary for some information. And we try to we've had a message to them all day. He hasn't been able to get back to us. So. And there was a contract. Yeah. On the dates. I mean it's on the dates. I made the start date July 15th because I was messing with the contract. And normally at bill we'll be handling this but it was working directly with Carl Messier who's our HR person and he's only paying Deborah from July 15th on. But we need a superintendent of record from July 1st. So there's this sort of issue of do we make a technical amendment to the contract to note that she is our superintendent of record from July 1st. But her contract with Rutland runs through July 14th so we're trying to figure out what the agency's not happy about having someone be a superintendent to us at the same time. We can either kill you or jam for them to be. That's a backup plan. It's a backup plan. We've got back. That sounds preferable to me then. We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Matthew and I I learned it to him when I finally saw the contract. And I was like oh boy we got a 15 day live period here. So we've got to figure this out. And Deborah's fine for doing what she's doing. She offered it before we even figured out the live period. And she's well more than willing because folks here are like you know there's sometimes you want to you want the person who's got the title and the responsibility and the statutory authority of making that decision. There's not many things that will happen but there could be you know. So you know we'll we'll decide which you know we'll we'll get this figured out the next couple of days. And I'm going to stay on until we get it figured out. If it takes to the 30th we're going to figure it out. Did you say your last year was June 19th? June 17th, 17th. Physically. No but physically. My last physical day. I have vacation that's due to me. So we got to take off the training wheels for our June 18th meeting. Yes you will be looking you and I should talk some more but I have the support ready for the 18th and I the presentations like 75% done as of now will be all done for now. That's great. So you guys will tell us how that will make them and Lawrence will support you in those two. Okay great. Those meetings. Thanks. Do you obviously feel like the transition is going on? Yeah I mean it's if you read anything about and I don't mean this pejoratively all but in executive transitions whether in public or private organizations. It's messy people have all sorts of emotions. They should. That's right. There's nothing wrong with that. It's human. And it's you know I think people are doing well and I think the leadership team's in a good place. They I've seen some growth in the past two weeks which has been very good very encouraging. This office is I think it helped to have Debra here and she did a great job of going around just kind of sit with everyone for 15 minutes and just checking in and who are you and this is who I am and I think that meant a lot for her to just you know just go do that. While she was here today. And she had some good we had time where she and Laurie and I were working and we had time where Jen was in. Kelly would have been in but she's not feeling well today. So you know we're doing that type of thing too you know crossing important things. So do you want us to make a motion on the date thing. I'm going to give you the authority if it you know can be done that you that you can make that technical. I had a memo ready to go this not here right now and I didn't bring it in here deliberately because I don't. So the motion would be to do a lot of the chair and assign to just the day. A technical contract to cover the two weeks. Yeah the window. Does anybody feel confident in warning such a motion. I wouldn't make that motion. You know what the motion is. I have I have allow the chair to make a check. Authorize the chair. Authorize the chair to make a technical correction to the interim superintendent contract contract regarding dates regarding dates. Yeah whichever is fine. Dr. it's seen two weeks. Is there a second motion. Who made it start Chris on any further discussion. All those in favor please say aye. So we have two other items on our discussion agenda which would require executive sessions. So we have some other action items that we should probably dispense with and then we can probably let Lisa go. With just the executive session stuff left. So first we have award orders. Yeah. They're here. Lisa you get to see these for the amount. I'll read it to you. It's two hundred three thousand eight hundred forty eight and thirty nine cents. That's something. Any discussion questions. You know no one's in favor if they say aye. And then we have three point two which four we have a new hair. Yeah this is John Boy. He's coming to us. He's currently. In. Portland Oregon I believe. Sam says yeah thank you. Seattle no it's Seattle you're right. He's in Seattle thank you. He has not only been a special educator but he's right right now as you see he's a program manager which he's managing a transitional program which is a little different than our Zenith program but somewhat similar. He and his family are looking to move to Vermont and so this guy he's very well qualified I talked to him about getting a special ed directors license. We'd like to have a few people we have a couple to have that. We'd also like to have a few more so I had a great conversation over Skype with him and I know that Steven and Bill and Jody and Maria had a much more in depth along with some lesson construction. We had a good chuckle about that. So he I just a wonderful really warm gentleman. I was sometimes it doesn't come through in Skype but it did in this. He just has extremely fond memories of Goddard and wants to get back here. I can make a motion to approve the hire. I was in favor of the sound. And there is not a three four. Okay so that leaves us with 2.3 and 2.4. So I guess I can make a motion to wait on executive session for the I'll make the motion. Move into executive session for the purposes of discussing our personnel issue. Yeah so the second second I'll in favor.