 Wow, what a nice talk with the Morgan hello everyone, so I'm gonna speak in English if you Have trouble with that use the headsets I lived in America for 17 years and In the US if you speak slowly on stage people leave Because you know that I want you to go stuff quickly So I'm a futurist. I've been doing this roughly for 20 years. I just to explain shortly what that means I don't predict the future. I observed the future Basically, I look at the next five to seven years and try to figure out how we can incorporate what we see in the future into today And the topic today is really a dear topic to me the topic of food and a healthy future I'm a hobby cook. I love to cook every day when I'm at home if I'm at home. I Traveled too much for that, but I have a strong connection to food So I want to get started with this and dive right in there on the first one is a really important slide the last three years Everywhere I speak I get feedback from people saying that the future is probably going to be bad It's really interesting at various largely by country like in Holland not as bad for example also not in Switzerland, but Germany US People saying well the future will be bad because first climate change not the Americans but us right say climate change is bad the machines are coming The robots are coming AI is coming and they will take our work first and then they will kill us So 2050 game over and exponential change. You know, this is the key American phrase That you hear everywhere everything has to be exponential But of course the most important thing is exponential profit right not just exponential gain So lots of people are worried about the future But as Hans already said I Think the future is better than we think If you look at the facts the client of property just quick here life expectancy increasing global child mortality decreasing declining cost of solar panels Solving energy planning cost of batteries long list long list long list What we're here in media is That we're probably going to do really bad in the future But if we look at the present we can already say well It's actually getting a lot better The only problem of course is that these problems are not necessarily of technical nature You know technology solves certain kinds of problems, but not others What has happened in the last ten years with the internet? We've solved many problems like free phone calls great music You know ten year was for 21 million songs. That's all been great But we haven't solved social problems Inequality the the difference in income And divine Dividing line between the half and have nots. I mean clearly that's going to be something that we have to solve differently We're moving into fully Digital future where it's basically going to be as normal as breathing is to be connected In ten years, we're going to have 30 from the estimated Ten billion people on the internet. We're going to have roughly 80% at very high speed 5g and others so we're going to have roughly nine billion people at fast speed connected all the time today at 3.6 And that makes a huge difference. I imagine they are all those things that we have today. That's going to be available globally So in my book, which I'll show you later called technology versus humanity. This is the key chapter number three You can download for free at mega shifts digital and ten languages But it's about this whole change of what's happening Which I used to call the Asians because they know the all end with Asian But basically it's not just digitization is virtualization, you know having things that are in virtual spaces This intermediation like what Amazon has done to to e-commerce mobilization Cognification which is basically things becoming smart Think about what that's going to go in the next ten years computers will become so smart We don't even know that they're going to be there that we're just going to speak to a wall and they're going to give us answers language translation driving cars flying airplanes automating work and Many of those things will be amazing Because they're going to take, you know, basically things that we don't really want to do and they're going to automate them Like, you know, now if you go to the airport at night that can Zurich closes at 12 It's not the people that come out to clear the airport. It's the bots And it's the bots that take your luggage So it's the changes that we're going to see are going to be mind-boggling here And that's something you should take a good look at impacting food I'll talk more about that in detail shortly, but here's a short video on this This is where they the robot comes in Does the cleaning or does the cooking I find this a lot of strange, you know why but okay so This is what's happening. I mean it could be heaven or it could be hell Many of those things will say, okay, that's really great the refrigerator can tell the grocery store that I'm out of milk That's amazing. You know, if you're lazy, that's good But maybe it's also a little bit maybe the the refrigerator could also lock the door if I'm on the diet In fact, there is a refrigerator from Samsung that does exactly this and That monitors your toilet too, right? I'm not going to go into details here But this is basically a two-way monitor where you could say So we're moving into a future where everything around us is becoming smart Everything is connected everything is being read the Internet of Things right so you just have the transformer We call it jokingly and you stick the old business in and out comes a new one right smart city smart home smart Retail smart transport smart food smart agriculture, maybe even smart government So that's what technology does now paperless office using apps You know everything online That's a good thing That only works really because we have in the end, you know this in the background We have a machine that learns patterns that understands things Some call it artificial intelligence. I would propose that we forget the word Because this is neither artificial. I mean all computers are artificial right and it's also not intelligent Not like us I mean we're intelligent in a pretty amazing way But we can't compete with computers on data input I Mean a computer can look at a real-time social media input of a hundred trillion feats and and find a pattern We can't do that But then can it find the pattern that's not a pattern Can it understand your message that you're not actually saying So when you have a conversation with humans, you know most of the stuff that we transport is actually not said It's between the lines We communicate like this, you know, not just in a binary way like yes. No. Yes, no We also don't live this way like computers do in a binary way. It's either a zero or it's a one Humans don't do that We said, I maybe you know change your mind. Maybe we lie. Maybe we cheat, you know Maybe maybe it's a zero point four now and zero point eight tomorrow. And you know, this is how we work It's called multinary So in the world like this where everything is smart, I think it's fantastic because yeah, it's efficient. I Mean with food and agriculture. Yeah, that's clearly going to be one of the big solutions but Think when we think about things like this The robots are coming everywhere. We say that's also quite good because Yeah, we used to have 90% of people working farming around the world now It's 2.1 or something like that Because we use machines that on the other hand, I would say riffing off Einstein Everything should be as smart as necessary, but not smarter In other words this a couple of things where I'm saying well, maybe this is a little bit too smart to be human to fit with us Do we have to put sort of a restrainer on it? Like we want artificial intelligence to do, you know, the all the donkey work for us You know the paperwork and the routine, but we don't want the AI to the side of somebody's going to stay in jail Or if you're going to have children or not Values ethics Those are important questions technology will not solve our political problems. Just because we have an AI Technology will just say well, so what these people die, you know, it's efficient That's not quite how we operate. This is really important for us to keep in mind. Let's talk about food And talk more about meat in a second 28% of the global pollution co2 is caused by agriculture Most of that by meat this meat not chickens so much and others but mostly beef And now we're living a world. We're connecting all of the beef, you know in Switzerland. We had we now have Radio frequency ID chips around the cows cost about a hundred thousand person per barn and Then the cows can go and milk themselves You know because because the milking machine comes automatically and and finds the target So now we're connecting everything, but I think it's really quite interesting to see that as far as the future is concerned. It's actually Happening as such a way where we say the future really is not an extension of the present. I Mean if you look at everything around us the future is unlikely to be at all like the present The music business where I worked for a long time Used to be about plastic distribution Now it's in the cloud Music is basically free That's 10 euros for 20 million socks, which is basically free Car companies today are saying well the future of the car is not to have a car To share the car to have a subscription to a car the Spotify for cars is coming. You may have heard Apple is rumored to announce a subscription to Apple products So you don't own it anymore. You just take whatever you want and food The future can't be like it is today 300 million tons of e40 whatever in our food Huge water problems Agriculture problems co2 problems So what I'm hoping for is this convergence of biology technology food and agriculture You could safely say that biology and technology are converging The next 10 years will really accelerate this in 20 years will be at the point to where we can actually program animals and humans Program in the sense of saying like I that that genome should not be active not in the sense of reprogramming, right? Chris McCastner and you heard about the operations and of course GMOs Do we want that is that actually good? This is a very big discussion. Of course, especially when it's about humans But this convergence is going to be very very positive for us in the larger sense for example in energy Technology can solve all of those problems piece by piece But then we have to apply some sort of governance to it. I mean if you're looking at these stats here Consider yourself lucky you're living in the biggest time of technological transformation in human history Because all the stuff I mean, you know, solar energy and battery-driven cars existed 50 years ago AI was tried 30 years ago But it's actually working today. I mean look at the boom of things that's coming energy storage all of those things The next 20 years will bring more change than the previous 300 years and Many people that I speak to saying well, you know, you lived in California too long With the superlatives and all those kind of things right? I'm saying there are 300 years ago industrial evolution Maybe World War two the atomic bomb But what's going to happen the next 20 years is that this you know what you use today? This is the extension of our brain our second brain This will move here and then here and then here We're going to be able to change ourselves I Don't think that's a really good idea to change ourselves in such a way, but it's possible Elon Musk is saying that we should connect our brain to the internet directly using a bunch of tiny holes in your head I'm wondering if he's going to be the first to try this, you know So he says we have to compete with AI and therefore our brain has to connect to the internet directly Become a machine essentially So in this future, you know the kids of your kids will live to be an average of a hundred years old They will never know how to drive a car because then they can just speak to it They will definitely not know gas engines That's us. You know, we love gas engines and make the sound and everything A huge chef coming. What does it mean for food? For agriculture for health. I mean the sky is a little bit down 20 years That's that's a long time. Let me show you they what I call the game changes. Okay The game chambers are nine things you can also find there in my book. There are nine things in here They're we need to know data the cloud the internet of things artificial intelligence quantum computing The blockchain 3d printing Virtuality and genome editing. I know it's enough to make your head spin It's like, oh my god, you know, do I have to know about all these things? So here's a list for you to pin on your wall This is the result of the game changes data Connected everything cloud everything Anything can be computed now the idea of neuromorphic computing 3d computing is already here The next step is quantum computing, which means computers that have an average power a million times of my box that's sitting on the table over there So you can imagine in 10 years you will have unlimited computing power available at your fingertips in the cloud unlimited I'm talking about seriously unlimited. I mean today if you use a Device to scan your DNA. It takes a week cost a thousand euros In 10 years, I do it on here while I'm having a date If I were to date Takes four seconds and it's free So I can compare my DNA with yours to see if we're going to you know go on on the date Or not And do other things, you know, who knows what happens there? But so this is the advance of technology. I Mean all of those things are happening at the same time So consider yourself lucky because it's it's it's very empowering, but it's also very scary So we have to think about how do we react? In a world where food currently is not really connected. This is what's going to happen Everything that we know and technology is going to impact what we do with food and distribution How we eat where we eat what we eat why we eat There's only one thing about food. Of course, that's really interesting food is human Robots don't eat. They don't have to eat This is one inefficiency that we have humans We have to eat web to sleep. We have to you know do all those things. We're not machines And that's why I think food is so important when we think in this context You know, this is definitely going to happen already is happening the idea of reprogramming food animals and humans Because there's a big question about how we're going to supply the food and I have a big question mark I haven't really decided it's kind of like nuclear energy. You know, you can say, yeah, you know, it's Chernobyl Not so good But then we think about the future of having coal all in gas. It wouldn't we rather have nuclear fusion or solar energy? Big discussion. So, you know, we have these things like Chris Bacchazna and is going to revolutionize how we can actually Deal with things we're going to be able to program things Many questions that show up about ethics like, you know, we have these trends is quite clear to us He said we're gonna have to feed a lot more people But at the same time we have climate change issues and we're going to have less food How do we solve this? So that's something we're going to think about. Okay meat, I Call this the great meat challenge. This is where it gets personal. I'm not much of a meat eater. I Prefer not to eat meat all the time, especially not when I'm traveling But that happens generally when you get older, you know, I probably eat less meat But he has a big question, you know, the farmers were protesting in Holland a couple days ago About what's gonna happen with the co2 provision and the nitrate and all these things and now the question really is Can we find a future of meat where meat does not equal animals? I think it's coming. I Tasted the other day the impossible burger It's 2,000 euros a pound. So it was an expensive meal. I didn't pay for it though It tasted good just like a regular hamburger, which you know, you can say it tastes good or not Because it's actual meat from the lab. They call it from lab to fork without cruelty Clean meat. There's a company called clean meat that does this Right now is seriously expensive, but you can say yeah with the you know with the advent of technology I mean think about this years ago you would if you were roaming from Holland to Germany You'd pay like two or euros a megabyte of internet access, right? And what is it today like two gigs included? So think about that for food Bill Gates and Richard Branson who are investors in this they're saying well basically in 10 years. It'll be one-tenth of regular meat So imagine a city not necessarily in Europe, but let's say in the Middle East That has a very dry in a dry area You can have one house with a meat factory a lab That churns out the meat and then other house a high-rise for vertical forming 100,000 people fed and organic No water pollution no air pollution That's a gigantic business when you think about this. So look at this chart, right? Global meat consumption. I mean, of course, you said this is wildly optimistic You know that people would actually adopt cultured meat like this So in many ways when we think about the future we have to question our assumptions. I always say jokingly if you're not Worried then you're not thinking about the future enough and if you're not confused You're not thinking about the future enough because yeah, these things are all happening at the same time We really have to think this is what Richard Branson says about this, right? We will no longer need to kill any animals and all that meat will be either clean or plant-based Well, it's not going to be either or of course We know this but I mean you you can see what's happening. This is a two-year-old video clip from the World Economic Forum And about this and yeah You know, we used to doubt if we can have a self-driving car We used to doubt that our car battery lasts longer than 50 kilometers and now the next Tesla will go 500 kilometers In three years, we're going to have a 10,000-year-old car that goes 2,000 kilometers on one filling of electricity At that point we won't even have a car because we can just hop into one So it's going to really change our future in so many ways. So here's the farmers again To bring up a key point technology can do all these things But we have to keep up. We have to change the way that we're doing things We have to change our habits Talk about my own habit flying. I Fly to a hundred gigs a year And I go to Beijing for one day. I'm offset in the carbon, but yeah What if and I think this is quite likely in the near future You will pay as much for carbon offsetting than you pay for the airplane ticket That's coming. Maybe not quite in that dramatic proportion right now. It's like 50 cents, you know to go from Amsterdam to Zurich But clearly and we're gonna have to change our habits Farmers are saying they'll quit Which is not good So lots and lots of political social issues and we may see mandatory veganism In other words, just like you can't drive a car in the city anymore like a London and very soon It'll be forbidden to drive your regular car in a city Are we're going to be forced to say well if you want to eat meat, it'll be really expensive Go to New Zealand Where a pack of cigarettes is $65 And they want to bring it to a hundred People are still smoking But yeah, you think about that if you smoke a pack a day, that's kind of expensive So yeah, I think we're going to see those things in a much different way and on the flip side of this technology allows us abundance Think about the word abundance, you know überfluss in German, maybe Dutch also I think right Where you have so many things that you stop worrying about availability We have abundant music. We have abundant films. We have abundant books We have very soon abundant transportation Then we have abundant energy Will we have abundant food Using technology Like take water on the other side. Water desalination is really expensive today But the progress in water desalination is gigantic We can expect in 10 years. We can have not abundance That will be a little bit too hopeful. Yeah, but we'll have solved the water problem through desalination So here's a clip from the past Okay a scene from Star Trek That shows true abundance. I Wonder what else is on the menu? One pan fried catfish Smells like the real thing So the machine that prints your dinner that is science fiction But a machine prints ice cream today it prints a pizza It prints houses it prints hearts So parts of what we need will be printed in the future our shoes can be printed in the store Also too expensive today, but 10 years. Yeah, I mean there's consumer goods companies That are looking at printing ice cream on demand on the beach So you go to the beach and say I want my ice cream to be the following mix and put your name on it It prints it in real time Well, that's because it's mostly only chemicals in it. I guess it makes it easy So machines technology Is bringing abundance? Hard to believe today because we're we're sitting here saying well a lot of people are still starving They don't have water. They may not have toilets and all of these things, right? The post meat post oil world. I think it's technically feasible, but it requires a lot of governance Like what do people do that used to work there? And will we have new jobs on that note, I wouldn't be so pessimistic think about the past You know 10 years ago. We didn't have much social media Today with social media is media 21 million people work in social media Those jobs didn't exist 10 years ago What jobs are we going to see? Because of this that don't exist today Will there be enough jobs for everybody probably not Different discussion. I'll get back to that in a second But we're moving towards a new economic logic quite clearly if we're looking at the world economic risk chart This is terms of impact on the left nuclear war, of course But on the right this is our new normal and I Hans was I mentioned this earlier We need to become become comfortable with being uncomfortable That's the new normal. This is basically going to be like this and 10x 100x The future has extreme weather climate change natural disasters data fraud two big things right two sort of natural Emergencies one is climate change and the other one is human change And so that's something we have to think about you know, which way we're going with this because we can see on those charts clearly That GDP is is growing So in generally speaking we're making more money But all the negative effects are also growing on temperature sea level energy use energy we can solve Because we'll have the tech to create enough energy for lower prices the other things yeah That is going to be some heavy lifting and I think basically we can safely say today, you know if you listen to greater speak Business as usual is dead in the next couple years all companies in the field of food and health and everything around it Will live up to a new standard Is it sustainable? Is it circular? Is it good for people? Does it make money? You know, that's one of the concerns and Unilever procter and gamble and all these companies are now thinking about this You know, how can we make customized food and personalized food? What is the new business when the business of selling sort of you know huge mass markets is finished? to considerations Climate change the next 20 years. We're just going to have to put up with it and adapt That's going to cost trillions just to address this But then again, it's probably a big growth in jobs on that side of the equation in 20 years We can probably go back and fix it See you or to take and see who's who out Then the other thing is also kind of a pollution, right? digital pollution Human change Facebook The biggest digital polluter you can imagine Polluting our minds. I left Facebook last year because of that reason. I stopped speaking at Facebook events Because this is a this is a real problem Right, we're now going to world where we have the one pollution is is co2. The other pollution is data That's something we have to think about when we think about human change and where that's going back to the climate change component here Looking at this graph. It's quite clear This is United Nations climate change panel information The southern hemisphere is in real trouble when the temperature rises and it is So here's a shocker number between 150 and 300 million climate refugees by 2050 Talking about immigration problems, right? Yeah, I mean a couple of hundred thousand a couple of million people We're talking about almost 300 million if the temperature goes up four degrees. Basically, you can't live there anymore Shocking number, but then again We're going to see dramatic adaptation measures and this discussion is just now starting We're going to see measures that says okay. No more cruise ships Co2 on airplanes no cars in cities mandatory charge to eat meat Unimaginable today because yeah, that's not free capitalism, right? It's not But what choice do we have? That's going to trouble charge information. We'll move it to a new logic. I call this sustainable capitalism This is not socialism by the way, just in case you're thinking of this direction This is an idea of saying we have four principles people planet purpose and prosperity There was a book was called the triple bottom line, which is very similar. You should read Now for the first time ever there was a CEO around table a couple weeks ago in the US Where the CEOs of major companies have announced that in the future it will no longer be just about shareholder value Of course, it may be whitewashing or greenwashing if you watch, right? Yeah, it could be Robert F. Kennedy said this in 1968 GDP GNP measures everything except that which makes life worthwhile It is utterly useless for us to think about growth and profit and money When we have no place to enjoy and this is doon and dawning on people now There's this idea of saying okay, where are we going with this again? What I would say about this, you know, this is a new trend that we're going to see we're going to see a new stock market This would be a great idea for Holland Let's create a stock market only for companies that adhere to the four bottom lines Like we have Nasdaq for tech Let's have the quadruple P deck Index for companies who are on that agenda so I can invest I Think that's gonna be a good idea Let me talk about the future of work and then we're gonna have some questions later also with hunts Okay, really what's happening is that yeah, this is a number one topic intelligent machine Again forget about the word AI The fact that machines can learn and become smart and are no longer stupid I mean I can use this very soon There's a rumor that you can you can use whatsapp and you can have a real-time translation on whatever you've spoken into it So you speak a little message to whoever like we all do right, but then you can say convert the Chinese Is that gonna be taken the translators out of business? You know, where are they over there? Not really, but yeah, I mean it's a gradual thing. AI is going to be everywhere Taking care of our routines. It's the end of routine for us Whatever routine you are doing if it doesn't require human input or Compassion Learn it so accounting bookkeeping all the thing Driving check out the supermarket call centers 21 million people Do you get compassion in a call center? I Don't know. Maybe I'd kill them. Do I don't know but generally speaking. It's not required I just solved the problem So we're going to see a rapid automation You see the first one here food preparation and of course that goes for food preparation like like fast food right not not for You know restaurants of that nature. It's interesting to see McDonald's and Burger King are both looking at fully automating the burger places So the food can be even better than today. I'm just kidding. Yeah, but there's one person running the whole thing Let's just automate the whole thing on the flip side Now we can clearly see okay. There's going to be damage by AI in automation. We're just down here, right? You're looking at these jobs here construction manufacturing transportation storage Yeah jobs declining. I mean in the construction business. Can you print a house? Yeah, you can print a house already They're doing within Chinese a company called way soon prints the whole house and prints the furniture and the people not in people not the people prints everything on The flip side of this whole thing take a look at the top of the pyramid right where we're looking at situations like health care We talked about that yesterday scientific communications hospitality For some reason food is missing here Any hospitality I guess is food. Yeah, so growing right Anything that requires human ingenuity Creativity design negotiation conversation empathy compassion is growing That's our future job That's why the food business is going to be a great business We're not going to automate eating because we can eat paste like an astronaut, right? I mean, this is a human thing that we do our ultimate jobs is To be human To not be a robot 10 years ago. We were looking at this and say oh, I'm you know A humans have to function well and be productive and you know be efficient and all these things So we were working like robots 10 years ago basically including myself You go to business school you learn how to be a robot Many of our kids at school today are learning how to download information and Act like a robot case study FMA to be if this and that right like a computer The future is going to be about being malleable understanding things on a different place inventing stuff inventing your own job Some people are saying roughly as 70% of new jobs haven't even been invented yet. That's our kids We're talking about here. They have to invent their own job Look at the skill map of tomorrow Also a bit of confusing because there's so many of them, but yeah, let me zoom in a little bit on this Yeah, so move on a top quadrant here This is the top right that was on the right before this and you can basically see what's happening There's two things that are going to guarantee our work in the future That's human only skills and technology look at this thing here and technology Zion project management critical thinking advanced IT right next to each other You want your kids to have work in the future? That's it. I Mean we have to understand technology if you don't understand technology you're toast, right? I mean it's But technology as such will not be your ticket because computers are learning to program themselves It's about understanding people That's why you're here You're not downloading information. I hope you're also discussing it So let me wrap up with the discussion of digital ethics. This is the key topic for 2019 Technology has become so powerful again a quadrant here that shows you the most powerful things are also the most potentially harmful That is genome editing especially for humans and Artificial intelligence we can use AI as a weapon of war. In fact, many countries are very excited about this Use an automated drones to kill people That should be banned but sort of you know, obviously a difficult discussion Zooming in on this I would sell basically I think the most promising future is one where we don't stop doing things because we're worried But we also don't dismiss the risk Like if we build the internet of things if we build a new data economy Then we also have to put up with the consequences if Facebook wants to be in social media, then they shouldn't be acting a social In my view they have more from being good for us to be in the worst poison you can imagine They want the change and they have to change they have to be responsible It can't be somebody else's business to mop up after companies that take advantage of the digital economy So it has to be included in the business model, you know be holistic and There's a real danger. You know, this is a scene that was making the rounds on the internet a couple weeks ago Is a guy in the Tesla who's sleeping? It may have been fake, but it was definitely interesting and you know, this is kind of our attitude with technology, right? We're sleepwalking into technology Me more people have relationship with their screens than they have with other people We don't go anywhere without this because this is our mission control. So I have some new rules I don't take them over on the bedroom anymore If I can I go out for dinner without the phone We call it go naked because this you're not covered We really have to think about this. Let's not go blindly into a future that says whatever can be done should be done That's a very bad idea Because in 10 years we can do anything You want to replace your legs with a prosthesis so you can better do better mountain climbing? You can you can do that today and there are people wanting to do that today Can you marry a robot people want to do that today? Don't laugh. I mean this is a big story So we have to think about this. You know, what is the new normal? How far do we go? So final thoughts on this? Six future principles as part of my upcoming book the first ones everybody knows exponential growth Converging industries technology biology combinatorial skills new things that become possible because of science that's progress and That progress is going to be so mind-boggling the next 10 years if we don't observe it. You'll be perpetually late But here's the other part of this the new future When we think about food health care well-being We got to think beyond the exponential You know keep in mind that humans aren't exponential You know, we are we're linear. We're organic. We're not going to compete with machines as much as you want We're not right right now. We're kind of as smart as machines or vice versa in 10 years a Machine with an IQ of one million How do we compete while we're going to be humans that the machines will never be human like we are So we have to think about this. We have to think about holistic business models and every company we do business with will be required to fill the agenda All right holistic the circular economy Sustainability not just on energy, but everything else Human benefit Go back to Facebook for a second Facebook has been the most profitable company in the history of digital companies on the internet If you had invested in Facebook four years ago when they went public you would have made the most money Every time Facebook gets into a problem with privacy, which was 28 times last year The stock goes up When they were was announced that they're gonna pay five billion euros to the European Commission for privacy violation the same day The stock went up 8% as long as we have a mindset that says it doesn't matter What comes out the other end as long as we have jobs and employment and more money We're fine, right? That will not work if we continue on that road. We're toast Because these things make a lot of money. I Mean the oil industry made lots of money. We had to regulate it So we're going to see all these things in the future coming together in sort of a joint new agenda that I call sustainable capitalism so I'm gonna leave you with that thought and We can discuss a little bit with hunts later. Thanks very much for listening I have a couple of free books with me. If you see me later, you can grab one. Thanks very much for listening