 at EMD and who are you? Oh hi there yeah my name's Jeff as well I'm the research and development management for electromechanical development's limited. And you got the Cisco big award winner for what? Correct yeah we won that last year and we won it for this device here. Now this device is a really small IoT node. The clever thing about this device is it's powered by harvested energy so you don't need a coin cell. Really? It's not battery? Exactly yeah which means that of course you can you can you can fit the device yeah and it's you can forget it you can simply leave it there you don't have to return to replace a coin cell it'll last there for 20 years maybe something like that. Now if you think in terms of the numbers of IoT nodes there are going to be in a few years time if just a few percent of those are powered by energy harvesting then we can reduce the cost of the IoT we can reduce the the operational cost of the IoT which ultimately it is good for all consumers. So is this real? This one? Yeah it's absolutely real. And it's energy harvesting how? Energy harvesting using a small levels of vibration. So here's our energy harvest of vibrating you can see it charging capacity here. The little vertical line is when we make a radio frequency transmission so you can see the distance between transmissions we can transmit roughly once every 10 seconds. Once every 10 seconds you can transmit Bluetooth? What signal? Oh I see yes this is this is at 433 megahertz which is one of the one of the ISN bands nice and here's some technical information so what's the stage and are you looking for people to take this and make millions of them or what are you doing right now? Billions of them. Yeah that's kind of where we are so we got a couple of products so this little one for conveyor belts and a couple of others as well that we're working on the conveyor belt one is close to market now so we become a producer we also become a licensor of the technology as well we think. Are you in the UK? Yes we are. Yes. All right so what's your background? Oh I'm a mechanical engineer yeah I'm a mechanical engineer I've been working on energy harvesting solutions now for 12 years or so something like that. It's quite a while. Which energy harvesting categories have you experimented with? This particular one is vibrational energy harvesting we also do a thermoelectric and we use a light as well of photovoltaic. So where is the where is the harvester? Let me just rotate this there we go that's the harvester underneath so that basically vibrates right and that creates the power to power the whole node. Nice so IOT in the future is going to be a energy harvested. Well we certainly have some, we certainly have some.