 Patrick Beja is back. Oh good Lord. I can't believe it's finally happened. How's it going Tom? It's going well. How was your vacation? It was nice. It was full of nature and trees and the sea and all sorts of things that I don't usually get to experience. Did you do any dipping in the fjords? Well not in the fjords, but actually we had a mid-summer evening with lots of friends and we had a bonfire in the middle of the night and at some point there might or might not have been a skinny dipping fiesta. Interesting. A mid-summer night's a dream. It didn't last long because it was freaking cold. It was the coldest June in Finland in like 20 years. All right, well let's get this going here. Are you ready for some French to welcome you back? I was born ready for some French to welcome me back. This is the daily show of technology. Today is Patrick's Tuesday. If you would like to support DTNS, go to patreon.com.au I was born ready. I really missed all of you guys and the show and the chat room and the audience. Actually it's been, I think in two weeks I haven't listened to the show even and that's really been weighing on my soul. So I'm really glad to be back in full action. Well with that in mind I'm going to go back and read all the headlines for Patrick to catch him up. No, just kidding. That's why we make him available on demand. Let's start off with today's headlines. The BBC has announced the BBC Micro-Bit. It's a pocket-sized, codable computer. TechCrunch says the Micro-Bit features 25 red LEDs, two programmable buttons, an onboard motion detector, accelerometer, a built-in compass, Bluetooth smart technology, five IO rings to connect the Micro-Bit to devices or sensors using crocodile clips or four millimeter banana plugs. In fact you can plug it into an Arduino or a Raspberry Pi. BBC Micro-Bit is programmable by software on dedicated websites. You can use a browser to connect to it, microbit.co.uk and you can access that from your PC or tablet or your mobile which gives it some flexibility for programming. Up to a million devices will be given to every 11 or 12 year old child in year 7 or equivalent across the United Kingdom for free and then the BBC's non-profit organization that made the Micro-Bit will license the design to third parties for third party manufacturer. I have ambivalent feelings about this. Do you? I actually do. So I come back first story. I'm the Grinch on the show. Sorry about this. It's not like the break was often about folks. Actually, apparently not. So it's not like I think this is a bad thing. It's just that there's a movement currently that says, ah, kids have to learn to code and have to learn about the inner workings of computers so important and I'm not saying it's not the case but I think they would be much better served if they learned about practical things on the internet like data privacy and how to actually use Facebook and what it means when something is on Google and how to, you know, set their data, you know, how to handle their data and sure some of the kids that are currently being initiated to programming are probably going to be interested in that as well but I'm not sure this is the best way to get computers in schools. Don't you think that you would have a better understanding of those issues if you know more about how computers work though? That's my thought here and I know you're not saying that the Micro-Bit is a bad idea. I know that. It's just that I don't think this is the best way of, so to take an analogy, it's like if people need to understand cars, how, you know, to understand traffic, do you want to teach them how an engine works or do you want to teach them the traffic rules? And I think that's the... Well, okay, fair enough, right? You don't need to understand how a car works to obey the traffic rules but you might understand a lot more about traffic and how it operates in safe following distances and why you need to drive safely if you understand a little bit about how it works. I agree with you that it can be taken too far, right? And not everyone's going to be good at coding and kids shouldn't be forced into learning coding any farther than they should be forced into learning any particular subject but I think a little basis in how coding works and how hardware works is sorely needed. I don't think we're to the point where we need to actually pull back and say, okay, stop forcing kids into something they're not good at or not interested in. I think the opposite. I think kids who are interested and are good at this aren't getting the opportunities yet. So I feel like this is the right thing to do at this point. Fair enough but they're giving them to every single kid in that age group and in those, you know, some of them we need it but all of them actually need to use that Facebook. Everybody wins. Cool. Bloomberg reports Samsung's operating income fell 4% in Q2 to 6.9 trillion won, missing analysts estimates. Samsung Galaxy S6 sales were disappointing and 6 edge shortages could not keep up with demand. Operating profit in the consumer electronics division dropped likely due to decreased demand for TV. Earnings from the semiconductors unit was about 3.2 trillion won. So the stock actually rose on this news which I found quite interesting. I think the idea is that while Samsung is getting squeezed from both ends on the smartphone front, both on the cheap end and on the high end by Apple, people saw in this that the real problem was manufacturing shortages and Samsung seems to have a credible plan to address that. Semiconductor units are doing well. It looks like Apple is probably going to buy Samsung chips for the next round of iPhones which would be a boost there and everyone expects the TV divisions operating profits to decline so that's no surprise. So really it's not a great report for Samsung. I know it's the seventh straight quarterly decline but if you're going to have a bad report, I feel like this is the right bad report to have for Samsung. The best worst, the best bad case scenario. The Verge reports that Microsoft is offering $500,000 grants that come with a pair of HoloLens dev kits. They basically want to see independent groups come up with ideas for HoloLens. Things like computing with data visualization, mixed reality, arts installations, teaching applications. Microsoft is going to accept submissions through the beginning of September with university and non-profit researchers eligible for the grants and awards to be announced in October. Now what do you think of this one? So I'm going to put a positive spin on it because I'm not the biggest fan of the HoloLens either. I do think that if you want to find a use for the HoloLens, that's probably the way to go about it. The HoloLens is something very strange that looks very, that is very seducing as an idea, as a fantasy but uses for it are going to be very difficult to define and to nail down. And this is a great way to address that, right? Exactly, exactly. PCMag.com reports that Samsung announced two terabyte versions of its 850 EVO and 850 Pro SSDs. The new two terabyte versions use Samsung's 3D vertical man technology and have the same 7mm and 2.5 inch aluminium case as their predecessors with plans to expand the lineup to include M-SATA and M2 form factors in the future. The two terabyte EVO is priced at $799.99 while the Pro version will set you back $999.99 and is available in 50 countries. I know that I am an outlier when I say this but I always want the biggest freaking hard drive I can get my hands on and I want a flash drive these days. So a two terabyte flash drive. I know this one's not available for laptops yet but a two terabyte flash drive in my laptop which is now coming soon just makes me slobber a little, to be honest. I've been using Samsung hard drives the previous version the 840 EVO for a few years and I'm super, super happy with it and I'm actually considering changing hard drives and getting a one terabyte version and that seems like a big investment but I'm telling you guys, anyone listening to my voice if you don't have an SSD in your machine yet this is the biggest upgrade you can put on your PC and I would not live without it. I walk down the stairs not worrying if my hard drive is spinning anymore. It's amazing. The New York Times reports that 13 of the world's most notable cryptographers and security specialists have released a paper that concludes there is no viable technical solution in their opinion that would allow the US and British governments to gain, quote, exceptional access to encrypted communication without putting that data in danger. The authors include Whitfield Diffie of Diffie Hellman, Ronald L. Rivest, the R in RSA, Harold Abelson, Peter G. Newman, Bruce Schneier, Susan Landau. This paper came out in advance of FBI Director James B. Comey Jr. and Deputy Attorney General Sally Quillian Yates testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee on the risks of new encryption technology to law enforcement and investigation. These are the people who invented crypt modern cryptography. So I'm inclined to just not say anything except, okay, I think I have to listen to your opinion. If only politicians were as wise as you are, Tom. If only. TechCrunch reports Yola, or Jola, the maker of Sailfish OS will split into two companies. Yola Limited will develop and license the Sailfish OS with Board Chairman Dr. Antisanio in charge. A future unnamed business will build devices for privacy-aware consumers and corporations, which may include multi-OS devices. Former CEO Tommy Pienimacchi has been appointed to a new position, quote, outside the company. Yola will make announcements about Indian partnerships at Mobile World Congress Shanghai next week. So this is really interesting. It's, you know, the face value interpretation is Yola has decided to double down on operating system development and the hardware development seemed to be holding them back and likewise hardware development might have been held back if they felt like they had to use Sailfish OS for everything so everybody wins except no one's going to the hardware company except the former CEO, and I very wisely made you read all the Finnish names here. I feel like this is a little bit of a, maybe it's not, but it looks from the outside like they kicked a guy out who was more interested in hardware than OS and said, great, go do your hardware thing. Good luck with that. Well, you know I was in Finland for a month, so obviously I know all about this, but unfortunately I can't disclose the information I have, so. Oh, really? Yes, of course. Did they make you sign a non-disclosure agreement to leave Finland? Is that what you're trying to say? I can't, you know, confirm or deny that fact. Anything that happened at a bonfire can't talk about it. Anything happened with Yola at Sailfish OS can't talk about it. TechCrunch reports that French start-up open classrooms is launching the first state-recognized bachelor's degree in France that relies exclusively on massive open online courses, aka MOOCs. The program is in conjunction with French school IESA Multimedia, offers three learning paths, engineering, design, and digital marketing. Of course, takes an average of a year to complete and costs 300 euros a month, a significant discount from the 6,950 euros a year that you use to get the same degree in person at IESA Multimedia. You know, you might not think so, but France is actually very technologically savvy and that doesn't surprise me all that much. It's cool. Yeah, I think this is great, but I have some accredited degrees coming out of MOOCs in other parts of the world. This is just the first one in France, and I like the idea of more of these happening, so that's great. TechCrunch reports Indian music service, Sovne, how do you pronounce this? Sovne, I guess. Sovne has raised $100 million and plans to expand into video. CEO Rishi Malorta said, the most exciting thing about the market is that we can be part Spotify, part Pandora, and part Netflix. Sovne will... that sounds somewhat Swedish for some reason. Sovne will try to succeed in taking advantage of the relationship between new albums and Bollywood films. Something rival Hungama has also been trying to attempt. Yeah, I know you didn't go to India on your vacation, so I apologize for that one. It's fascinating, though, because it shows the difference in approaches to different markets. I think what Sovne is trying to do is say, look, Bollywood films come out and their albums sell like crazy. The songs that come out in conjunction with them sell like crazy. We've got to figure out how to combine these two, and they're new to the market, so they can take advantage of that second mover advantage and learn from what Hungama has already attempted. Maybe they'll succeed. The surprising thing, I think, is that actually it didn't happen sooner. From the outside, at least, we have such an image of enormous weight of Bollywood, which is obviously very musical in the type of movies they produce. I'm guessing, though, it might also be an infrastructure issue, because, of course, if we look at things from here, things like streaming music and video is a given, but India is only now getting to the point where they have a viable market for those. The concentration is certainly uneven. Time for some news from you. Several of the stories we've already talked about were submitted by you, and thanks to everybody who submits stories. We always give credit to a couple each day, but I always feel bad for the folks who submit the most important story of the day. Obviously, the microbit was submitted by lots of people, and that really helps. Even if your name doesn't get read, you are certainly appreciated for participating in DailyTechNewShow.Reddit.com. Spare Lollipop and Star Fury Zeta both pointed out that OpenSSL will be released Thursday, July 9th, which all they've said in advance is that it will patch a high severity vulnerability. Graham Cluley on his site points out that the Heartbleed vulnerability has made folks jumpy about OpenSSL patches, which is why few details are being announced ahead of time. They don't want to tip off their hands to a lot of bad actors who are focused on OpenSSL right now. So that's in two days. Just two days, two more days to hold on, and after that, everything will be perfect. Everything will be perfectly safe until the next patch. Strickett Tritch submitted the MarketWatch story that Apple Watch sales have fallen 90% since opening week according to market analysis firm Slice Intelligence. Apple is selling around 10 to 20,000 watches a day compared to 200,000 a day during launch week. An estimated two-thirds of watches sold are the SportsWatch. Slice based its research on electronic receipts emailed to participants. This is definitely one of those stories where your opinion of Apple as a company is going to change the way you write the headline. You could say like two-thirds of watches are sport watches. That's great. Sales holding steady now after a huge spike, or you can say it's a 90% drop. Apple Watch sales are in the toilet. Everyone's buying the cheapest one. It's horrible. It's still too early to tell. We'll see these numbers bottom out, and then they will rise again at the holiday season and possibly be affected by another Apple Watch announcement in the autumn. I'm not saying I know that's going to happen, but there's a good chance that it'll happen. How do you see these, Patrick, when you hear these numbers? Well, again, there are two ways of looking at it. I think my prediction at the prediction show was that Apple Watches would see huge sale numbers in the beginning for the first couple of months, and then they would end up in drawers. I actually heard Veronica last week saying that she wasn't using hers all that much anymore, which surprised me because she was one of the people who was a big fan of her Apple Watch in the beginning. Through my view, my lens, it seems to mean that maybe people are wising up and understanding that this thing is completely useless. However, 10 to 20,000 is not a meager amount, and when you compare it to 200,000 a day for the launch week, obviously the launch week is going to be where all the pent-up demand and the marketing buzz and all of this is, you know, it's the launch. Obviously, they're going to be selling truckloads of those, so I don't think it really means much at this stage. People have to see what happens when they start announcing numbers. Yeah. My sense is that the Apple Watch is not a failure. Even 10 to 20,000 is selling great for a wearable. I think what may have happened, though, is that Apple may not have entirely rejuvenated or relaunched a market like they did with the phone and the tablet. But even then, I think it's still too early to tell for sure. Well, you know, even if you look at 10,000 a month, that's a million, 10,000 a day, that's a million in 100 days, right? And likely they're selling more than those. So they will have sold a bunch of millions of that watch. It's not a failure by any measure. And that is a look at the headlines. Now, when you talk about wearables, we almost always talk about fitness trackers and watches. And there are a few exceptions to that. One of them had a Kickstarter launch on June 16th. And there was another story about it relaunched on Reuters today. They're about halfway through their funding. It's called Doppel. Now, it looks like a wristwatch. It's round. You wear it on your wrist, but you wear it on the inside of the wrist. So the round part goes underneath your palm or by your palm rather than on the side where you would look at it normally. And it measures your resting heart rate, not on the watch on a smartphone app. And you may say, well, why does it do that? Here's the thing. It wants to get your resting heart rate and then calibrate a rhythm that it taps into your wrist. The idea is that like music, a high energy rhythm that's a little faster than your heartbeat will energize you and increase your focus and increase your energy. And a slower tap that's less than your resting heart rate will calm you down, will slow you down, maybe even help you go to sleep. So the idea here is it's a wearable meant simply to adjust your mood, Patrick. Some might even say to manipulate your mood, although you're the one manipulating it, so it's still fine. I think it's a really interesting story and there are really two parts of that story. First is the intriguing even concept of the thing and it brings the question, does it actually work? They have a bunch of psychologists and, you know, basically they're saying, yes, we tested it, it works. Already, if it does work, it's an interesting use of technology. It works in the way that it knows your heartbeat because it has a little sensor that can measure it and then you can tell it go more intense or less intense as compared to your personal heartbeat at that moment. So if it does work, it's like they describe it like music without the annoying sounds or the sound that can be discomfort or annoyance to your surroundings or even to yourself when you're working. As you said, they tested it themselves, but there was one independent test by a psychologist at Royal Holloway University of London with control tests showing the device did show improved alertness when correctly set to the user's preference. They haven't tested and they're going to, but they haven't quite tested yet whether it provides the calming effect. So there's one independent test that says, well, at least in one of these cases it works. Right, and I think we need, obviously, more than, you know, a couple we need to see. I think everyone will want to have tested themselves before they're absolutely convinced that this weird thing works. But it's already a very, as I was saying, a very interesting use of technology and it could be very useful if it actually has that effect. The other aspect of this though that piqued my interest was the new concept of using technology and wearables to, well, manipulate your, not your physiology, but, well, your mood and the way you feel or behave or... Yeah, I guess physiology is not a bad way of putting it because you're manipulating yourself, right? You're using your heart rate and trying to trick psychologically yourself into calming down or ramping up. And maybe in the future, that could be another, you know, area of research where instead of just having sensors on your wearables, you could actually have them have an effect on yourself. And I know that there are things like, in the case of diabetes, you can have automatic pumps that will release, you know, the... Insulin, yeah. The proper levels of medicine. Exactly. There's lots of examples of that with medicine for sure. But if you start thinking about it in the way that you do in this case where it would help you perform better or calm down when you have to, and maybe it doesn't have to be medicine, but it's a completely new area of research, it could become... I could see it becoming something that is, well, I've professed my lack of love for wearables or at least for smartwatches a few times. And that's mainly because I don't see the need or, you know, the actual practical use. In this case, I think it's very easy to see the practical use. Because it's not about information, right? All of the smartwatches and Fitbits of the world are trying to just do what computers do, which is handle information. And I think what's cool here is that here's a wearable that says, well, we're definitely technology, but we're not worried about the information. We're not using a little bit of information to provide something to you, but we're worried about the result. We're focused on helping you be a more effective person, whether you need to calm down for a presentation or whether you need to, like, stay awake in a meeting. They use both of those analogies in their videos. This is created by a material scientist, a designer, an electronic engineer, and a quantum physicist, right? So this is what I want to see more of, which is not just a startup venture capitalist and a developer come up with an app and more ways to slice and dice information. Like, this is a really interesting new idea, at least for wearables. You know, I'm reminded of an experiment I heard about years and years ago before wearables were a thing. Maybe you've heard of it as well. It was an experiment where someone had created a belt that was equipped with a compass that would, and the belt had a compass and a series of motors that would vibrate to indicate the north. He was trying to replicate what we think birds do when they navigate. Exactly, exactly. And it would vibrate constantly where the north was around his waist. And he mentioned that after, I don't know, a certain period of time of using it, he had developed an instinctive understanding of where the north was. And that was kind of useless at the time, but it was, in a way, the kind of use of a wearable device that would influence his senses. And this, you know, I'm not necessarily super excited for this Doppel device that we're talking about, but the doors that this kind of thinking opens for the future. And actually, you know what? It's 70 pounds. It's, let's say, 100 bucks or 100 euros, a little bit less or more, but that's something I really would be willing to try and see if it even works. So, yeah, it's intriguing. Yeah, it really is. So these folks who are doing this met on a joint course run by Imperial College London along with the Royal College of Art. And so I love when interdisciplinary studies also spit out something like this. And they're doing their Kickstarter now. They're called Team Turquoise. The device is called the Doppel. As you mentioned, if you back them on Kickstarter, you can get it for 70 pounds. They'll probably be more expensive once it goes on sale. They want to ship it April 2016. And the all important battery life question, is the capacity. So you only get five hours if you're constantly trying to amp yourself up. Ten hours if you're chilling. I'm guessing this can be improved if they have some serious research and the mark too. But would you use this kind of, you know, body hacking device? Let's say the good thing here is that it's really just a tactic, you know, feedback. Right, it's not injecting. It's not medicine. It's not having other side effects that we know of. Yeah, why not? See if it works. The really fun thing becomes when you have this sort of this kind of medipack that has all sorts of chemicals that it can inject you with. It's not just a tactic. It's like actually injecting stimulants into you. That's version three or four. That reminds me of the couches on the Rosinante in James I say, Corey is the expanse. They always inject them with medicines to help them deal with the gravity. So yeah, I'd like that around my wrist as well. Let's get to our pick of the day. It comes from Big Jim. He says, I'm sure some of the Android listeners most likely use Pocket Cast. So I know I do because it's probably one of the best podcast players in the Android sphere. I use Pocket Cast on Android myself. Big Jim says, did you know there's an integrated web player for this app? Let's say you want to save the battery on your phone or tablet. Go to play.pocketcast.com. Log in. And there will be all your played and unplayed podcasts. Just like the apps do, you can quickly go to it for listening to the end of that DTNS or Philius Club without touching your phone. When you're done on the computer, just go back to Pocket Cast app on your phone and it will be synced to where you left it for that portable enjoyment. So far, Big Jim says the only downside is they haven't created playlists on the web app. But I sent this as a recommendation to the team and they said it's something they're looking into. So thank you, Big Jim. Play.pocketcast.com. And that's the kind of feature, like whisper sync on Audible that makes you want to live in a mini-ecosystem like that. Agreed. I also want to know when the next Philius Club is. Sorry, yes. I skipped one this month. It's coming back at the end of the month and it will be packed. We have so much to talk about. Send your picks to feedback at dailytechnewshow.com. You can find my picks at dailytechnewshow.com slash picks. A couple of messages of the day. And Dan Gardner just real quickly he's from San Antonio. He suggested Greece as a location for the giant robot battle that Veronica and I were talking about on Monday. He's like, why not help out our Greek friends? They could use it right now. So I don't know, we're just throwing that out there. I don't think that would solve all the Greece's woes but can't hurt, right? Well, you know, hopefully they don't get out of control and start, they do have pilots so they should be able to control them. And then finally before we go Jenny Josephson our producer who is here right now wanted to record her thoughts on the Justin Bieber butt controversy. If you haven't been following this Justin Bieber has posted a picture to Instagram of himself naked from the rear and I'll let Jenny tell you the rest of it. Okay people. Last night Justin Bieber showed his bare bum in a picture on Instagram and predictably the internet went insane. Now I absolutely love the jokes. I mean come on, it's a pretty soft target. But the interesting thing is that as of today, Instagram has not censored a nude picture of Justin Bieber. As we know, Instagram recently updated its nudity policy which reads we know that there are times when people might want to share nude images that are artistic or creative in nature but for a variety of reasons we don't allow nudity on Instagram. This includes photos, videos and some digitally created content that shows sexual intercourse genitals and hello close-ups of fully nude buttocks. It also includes some photos of female nipples but photos of post-bastectomy scarring and women actively breastfeeding or allowed nudity in photos of painting and sculptures is okay too. Now that's a carefully thought out policy but it makes me wonder did a bunch of people at Instagram have a quick hallway meeting this morning and decide that this Bieber image is a mid-shot or even a wide-shot and so it's okay or did they decide that a male butt is less dangerous than a female nipple or did they have no meeting at all because Justin Bieber has 32.2 million followers and you don't go messing with that. Either way, this to me is dangerously close to being another example of a powerful technology company, one owned by Facebook lest we forget, carefully crafting what its users are allowed to see. By declaring some nipples verboten and some okay, Instagram is quietly shaping the world that we get to see or in other words censorship. Now I know, Instagram absolutely has the right to pull or not pull any particular image. They're a company and we all sign the terms of service, but censorship by one company over many people is always a bad idea and it never works because it's always based on values that are not universally shared. Now there are images out there in the world that should be banned because they break the law. Stolen images of celebrities in the nude and child pornography are two examples that have been in the press lately. But Chelsea Handler's torso of which she is clearly very proud, Rihanna's chest a girl with a period stain on her clothes, a picture of Chrissy Teigen that appeared in a major fashion magazine, how about a woman celebrating her plus size figure or her hard earned stretch marks? Yes, we all have different comfort levels with nudity and we all have different valid opinions about what we're ready to have our kids exposed to, but censorship is the easy way out. So I hope that somewhere in a conference room at Instagram today someone is working on the tougher, more durable solution. The way to tag images as explicit or your kids might not be ready for this or might be upsetting, use caution. Maybe there's a non-invasive way to verify age of Instagram accounts and limit exposure based on that factor. Anyway, there's a lot more I could say on this topic and a lot more that will be said on the story in the next couple days. But I have to go now because I need to photoshop a pair of googly eyes on Justin Bieber's bum. And I'll defend your right to do that, Jetty. Yeah, here's the thing, when you have a large community like that and you have to let an algorithm do some of the standard setting, you're always gonna run into these kinds of issues. Google has learned that. That's why they're safe search and moderate search and settings like that. These are the growing pains that will leave stretch marks on the policy of Instagram. I would have a million things to say about this. But the only one I will say, I think the only really interesting question in this whole story is would they have let that butt stand if it was a female butt? To me, it's the only question that really matters. But I guess we won't get the answer to this. I think a female version of Justin Bieber, some other equally famous artist should post the same kind of picture and we should see what happens. I'm pretty sure Chelsea Handler's gonna be all over this in about two hours. I don't know who that is but go, yes. Just Instagram or Twitter or even better. Jenny, I think that's your point. It's well made which is Instagram can do whatever it wants. But what is the smart thing for them to do? I guess if you really want to take the lead as a company and I'm not saying it's easy because they made a very good point in the chat room which is morals differ so dramatically in different countries that there has to be a better way. There has to be a way to be able to select or self-select or self-police the images and just say okay here's your one moment, brief moment before you can click on it enough time for a parent to say no. I mean it's not. Here's my family-friendly filter. There's a lot of different ways none of which are perfect but just blanket algorithmic censorship is gonna take those edge cases and put them right in the public's eye and cause a lot of problems. The first example is we are now cross-posting this show on the Daily Tech News show YouTube channel and my personal channel Ace Detect and I constantly get notices from YouTube asking me to clarify if I have the rights to pre-post this show that I own in both places because the algorithm can't tell it's the same person. It's just weird. Well thank you Jenny Josephson for that. I appreciate the editorial. And thank you Patrick Beja for being on the show and being back. We missed you. I missed you guys. Seriously I did. It was very strange not being on the show and as I was saying on holiday that I wouldn't even listen to the show. I actively stopped myself from working and I have to say when you work with people you appreciate and doing something you love it's a couple of weeks of vacation is a long time so I have to force myself to do it but now I'm really glad I'm really really glad to be back and to be able to say that I was born ready every Tuesday evening. That's fantastic. It's important to take that time so that you can recharge. You need to do that and it's great when you can do that and be excited to come back so I'm very happy to hear that. You can follow NotPatrick at Twitter and when I say follow NotPatrick that's Patrick. He's NotPatrick on Twitter and then you can get his English language podcast at Frenchspin.com Absolutely. 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One of them is to get a DTNS t-shirt if you're going to Nerdtacular Jenny and SubGuns created a new DTNS t-shirt it has the DTNS logo on the front and on the back it says Nerdtacular kind of in a line and it has everybody who's involved with the show's name kind of filling in the line so we've got like for instance Patrick Beja's name in there with a letter from Nerdtacular to spell it out you gotta take a look at it go to DailyTechNewShow.com and if you're going to Nerdtacular and you want to order the shirt use the code TwoSides T-W-O-S-I-D-E-S and you won't get charged for shipping you can just pick it up in Salt Lake City at Nerdtacular our email address is feedback at DailyTechNewShow.com you can give us call 51259 daily that's 5125932459 that would be radio.com and visit our website at DailyTechNewShow.com we will be back tomorrow with the aforementioned to Scott Johnson talk to you then this show is part of the Frog Pants Network get more at FrogPants.com Diamond Club hope you have enjoyed this program that t-shirt is really cool yeah Jenny I came up with the design it was like prettied it all up for print for us it works really good and it forms a T for team Tom of course I showed it to Eileen last night the first thing she's like where's your name I'm like it's there it's in the logo my name's everywhere and it's a T that's what everybody has said where's Tom's name I was like oh god I did it you did fine that was a good show what should we call it allow me to go to a show bot once micro bitten twice schooled once micro bitten twice schooled I don't know I get where you're going Dark Redeemer Samsung's on the edge K coding for kids with a K uh go for button I like that one I'm voting for that one cause it's funny Instagram our new robot Oberlar Bieber is an arse Buttergate Patrick's back best bad case scenario I like verb button is very cool though what happens in Finland stays in Finland mood watch let's see Instagram's Justin Bieber policy and but gazi wow I know I had a feeling yeah I mean you throw Justin Bieber and but in any story you're gonna get titles it's like a title machine yeah oh boy it's a self-generating title situation yeah it's the ingredients um be safe chip your kids yeah kind of like that whoa Godzilla it's a Patrickzilla wait is that a lion on your shirt I lowered my desk oh it's the alliance lion from I think what you wear is well for the alliance I don't understand what any of you are saying it's warcraft stuff I know this is one of those things in your head here warcraft warcraft warcraft I'm just gonna have to accept there are things that I'm missing out on major things let me tell you this Veronica would play war talk about warcraft stuff and I would feel that way and then I started playing warcraft and all of a sudden it all made sense to me and I was kind of disappointed because it was just normal stuff like essentially what we're saying is like hey your shirt says one team and I'm on the other team I don't like your shirt like there's no secret I mean you know you're missing out on a lot of stuff you're missing out on noodling you're missing out on hang gliding you know there's a lot of things but you know what not everyone can experience all those things that's true and that's why there's blogs I've just accepted that the AEI guild is there to represent for world of warcraft and that's amazing and I don't have to do it now thank you you're saying AEI is the world of warcraft guild so you don't have to yes I will represent for fine dining in Los Angeles how about that whoa honking on the street there uh oh what happens it's a little honking street maybe at five so we're going with verb button then I guess you don't like that one? no it's fine best bad case scenario is really good the best bad case scenario I think the main topic should always win best bad case scenario yeah are we going best bad case scenario lobbying for how do people actually lobby should I say hey I can well you'd have to come into my lobby and then wait for an appointment wait for me to walk out and then you I think you wave papers in my face is that not cash money well paper money oh because I was going to do it like this virtually through the internet see if we had some kind of HoloLens device maybe yeah sure are you coming out for BlizzCon? probably not for BlizzCon but Nerdtacular I thought yeah Nerdtacular of course I wouldn't miss it for the world I mean well then I'll bring your stabilizer with me to Nerdtacular cool I'm permanently scarred by the fact that the first time I met Patrick Beja in person I was out looking for a toothbrush with horrible morning breath and it was like he was like Jenny and I was like a toothbrush I felt terrible it's fine we don't bathe we don't brush our teeth I would never resort to stereotyping just swimming champagne and they're done so Patrick have you heard about Fabienne Sarriere's new scarf Fabienne is a hacker and machine knitting enthusiast running a kickstarter for a scarf that is uses a provably unique model off of cellular automatons and is made of merino wool I need to have that checked by my scarf department immediately $150 gets you a custom scarf it's called knit yak custom mathematical knit scarves I'm going to put it in the chat room and I will put it in the in the slack as well yeah you can do this over I'm not sure I approve okay see that's why I wanted to you as our resident scarf expert needed to assess this I will look into it and report back I'm very worried right now and concerned I mean grease is one thing but scarves are a serious business I don't know mathematical knit scarves I would think that would be a positive no? I don't succumb to hype Tom I need to perform a thorough investigation of the technology and it's not all about doing computer things here in the old hipster merino wool exactly we have to make sure that some things are preserved and some traditions are observed we can't have anyone just go out and cold themselves a scarf maker and use some kind of automatic process the union regulating the making of scarves I was going to say isn't that why the French aided the United States and the revolution was for our right to make scarves independent of the British king well no so they could gift us the Statue of Liberty like a hundred years later and you don't see the Statue of Liberty wearing a scarf do you? no it's a toga we were just working the favorite trajectory to get a present sure we'll help you the revolution if you give us a statue fine we'll get it to you that would be great if you could actually do that like a I've always wanted to do a show where it's just BS history and you make up these stories of what these things occurred I've always wanted to do that too I started a blog like that once just for kicks we need to do it we can call it soft core history I think I think you should do East meets West specials about that I know a post show where you could do that right right we could just do it right we have a show you know about the Cincinnati Reds right they were started by the communists what true story the what sorry they were started by the communists the Cincinnati Reds baseball team oh right they used to paint all the players exactly the same actually I've been watching the Americans have you watched that show I've watched like a can fall of episodes we've watched most of it I think we're behind quite a bit but we watched the first and second season but I think the third season is almost done right I only have the first two seasons on Netflix and halfway through the first one but yeah I think that could in that context it could absolutely be that the Cincinnati Reds were exactly what they are called the best place to hide is in plain sight and I think that might have been what's been happening there you know the Cincinnati Reds this part isn't actually fake the Cincinnati Reds changed their name red legs so that they wouldn't sound like they were communists well but we all know better I had a hat growing up that said Cincinnati Red legs on it and I was just like they're the Cincinnati Reds this is 1975 right they were definitely the Reds I was like why does it say red legs and my parents wouldn't answer and then finally my grandparents were like commies but they don't why wouldn't your parents answer I don't know I guess they didn't want to explain about talk about my grandpa was very famously like I'll say anything it could have been because they were sympathizers and they didn't want to like maybe my mom I still think McCarthy was a plant I don't actually think he was he was a human he was not a plant he was a plant by the Soviet Union he was their Manchurian candidate I'm auditioning to take Jeff Canada's place doing dad jokes that's what that was about they could do a second Manchurian candidate movie and do the subheading Manchurian candidate 2 take out get it because it's Chinese I can't make that joke I can so it's great minority privilege deal I'm into it alright are you going with you're going with best bad case scenario best bad case scenario yes there's no winner keep wanting to call it bad case proving once again that we pay no attention to any votes you cast that only just helps us narrow down our choices it was the second one I think that yeah yeah no it helps more votes the better but you know if you were trying to like I don't know you're trying to allege democracy in the titles it's not what are we Greece we're going to take this title back to the people I have another movie idea so tying in Greece so remember back in the 80's they did a movie called America Thon and the whole idea was John Ritter was the US president and he started this huge telethon to get the US out of debt and so we could do the same thing for Greece except they do like 24-7 Greece Revival where they just do the whole movie over and over again what if the UK just gives back all the Parthenon freezes and says now or even you just can't give stuff to people they wouldn't appreciate it Tom wait no that doesn't work here's what we do the UK says we're going to keep the Parthenon freezes but we're going to pay you for them the exact amount of debt you have yeah that actually is a good idea they should just start up a snow cone chain with the freezes call it the Parthenon freezes dad joke right there you just won the dad joke crown away from me I'm sorry I'm a dad so that helps alright well that's it for this episode I am out of the post Nine Attack coming up later on most of these locally owned independently owned amco transmission sponsored diamond club dot tv