 So now we have two very interesting use cases, very different use cases for implementing institutional change. And yeah, we have some time if you would like to ask our speakers some questions. You can just type them into the chat or you can, I think you can also raise your hand if you would like to ask them directly. In the meantime, can I ask one quick question? Yes. So basically, Mary Jane, thank you very much for the presentation. How do you keep your stakeholders engaged? Because this is quite a sensitive topic on which you had your experiments. How did you manage to keep their interests in your work? Very good question, Adrian. Well, using different types of approaches to the workshops, so using interactive workshops where they could learn and develop and speak to different people was definitely a positive and the Lego. The Lego was so much fun and waking in and off if you don't get to play. So we have one question in the chat. I think I'll just going to read it out. So in terms of engaging of researchers, are they interested in being involved in our eye during the research projects? And as a continuous tool need within the research and development process. So I think it's maybe a similar question to Adrienne's like how to keep them involved. Are they in general interest in being involved or was it difficult to get them on board? I don't think that all my participants definitely had a genuine interest in with a lot of them working in research anyway. And the SMEs obviously wanted to make their products better. So if they were able to engage with researchers that definitely when we were talking about being engaged in future research projects, definitely they did say that they were going to be involved from beginning to end of research. Not just seen as a participant who takes part, but being involved in the design and being involved in the right up stages and every aspect of it was definitely something that came across in all workshops. I hope that helps. Well, what I can say is that we want the RRI to be embedded in our practices. So our goal is that researchers do things in a way or practice their activities or do their research with an RRI embedment so they don't think they are doing RRI. It will be part of their processes. It will be part of the way they do things. That's our goal. So it's not like, oh, now I'm doing RRI. No, we reflect on things. You become aware of things. You think of different ways or better ways to do things. You think of consequences and then this slowly becomes embedded in the way you do your research. That's how we do things. But yes, not initially, of course, in the beginning, it will be a very conscious process, I believe. But yes, most of them, most, because there's always those who never want to engage in anything new, but most of them, yes, they are pretty much interested. The objective also, sorry, the objective is also that they don't see it as another thing to do, not another checklist or another to accumulate to the other things that they have to do in their research. No, it will be part of the things that they already do. That's my answer. Thank you. So, Lucia, I hope this answered your question. It seems like it. She says, thank you. If anyone else has any question, feel free to type them in the chat. In the meanwhile, I can maybe also ask one question to Adrian. So you're coordinating these, yeah, actually for experiments. So maybe you can elaborate a little bit on, because they seem so different, like, will the results be comparable or like, yeah, what will you do? That's a very good point. Well, actually, what we compare is mostly quadruple helix engagement process and the outcomes in the sense that we don't necessarily compare on the topic. You know, if you understand what I'm trying to say, we're just comparing the process. So in terms of the comparison, and this is going to be made available while when our deliverable will be published, formally published and uploaded in the portal, because it's an open access document, you can all everyone that is interested can get access to the specific comparative analysis of the four experiments in the sense that you will see there how, for example, each experiment complements the gaps in our environment processes through quadruple helix. So each experiment has done a specific bit of this job, but due to the nature of each institution, their outcomes are quite different. So just to give a quick example, in the University of Liverpool, of course, because it's a traditional, let's put it this way, traditional standard university. Okay, you have a proper structure like a fixed structure with committees, boards, you know, in a proper hierarchy that influences the way RRI is being embedded in the institution. While for open university that has done a text and data mining experiment, they are completely decentralized so their research teams are completely independent and there is no upper structure that governs the way they do their research. So which means that they have a bit more flexibility, which means that their challenge was even higher to find the proper motivation to adopt RRI because it's not the top down thing that tries to impose on them. So all these challenges as well as many other peculiarities are explained in this open access report that we can share with all the interested participants. Just feel free to contact us at any point. I hope that covers. Thank you. Yeah, I think that will be very useful. And also one thing to mention maybe is that we also plan to conduct a webinar about the other experiments. So that might be also interesting for some of you. Yeah, are there other questions so far it doesn't look like it. Yeah, but as Adrian already said, please feel free to contact us at any point. If you would like to have more information or we can exchange more experience. And then I would say thank you to everyone who was speaker here today and also thank you to you as participants for joining us. As I mentioned, we will make the recording available. And also the slides, you will find them at our fitfire.eu slash training website there we will link to them to the link to our YouTube channel. And we will also there was this event on the foster portal. So we will also link all slides and upload them on the foster portal. So I hope that was useful and thank you for joining us today.