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There is a link that says join our membership. Click that link and join our membership. Follow the instructions because you all always ask us, how can we support you? That's exactly how you can support us join our membership. It's only a little one minute, a little that's some change a month. But we so appreciate it. Okay. Thank you in advance. Yeah, man. Oh, man, let's get it, man. We got my guy here today, y'all. He don't need no introduction. This guy right here. This is actually third time coming on the show, man, maybe even four or five. I can't remember. He been here and we just was shooting hell. This guy here, man, don't need no introduction. He solid solid as a rock, man. It's my guy, man. Why I send barrios in the building. What's going on? Man, I'm doing great, man. I usually don't think the family gonna be with your son, but you come solo dolo. You still with him? Yeah, let me just go and put it out there. I want no problem. Yeah, and go down through there. Yeah. So everybody good? Yeah, everybody straight. We just, uh, you know, fork in the road with no gonna get past it. Man, you know, like I said, it's a lot. We got to talk about before we even get into the music, man. I was looking at the internet man and my boy Kenny B. He signed for four years. Yeah, man, they taking another dog from me, man. Have you already left? Nah, he up. He was supposed to leave on the 10th, but his judge granted him four more days to the 14th. So this just got to be federal. Nah, uh, the state? Yeah, I think it's state. He had a little case. I don't really want to talk about it because I don't know the inside details. We had a little case of the situation and he ended up getting out on the end of bonding out, getting some more little trouble and now you got to face it. So I think he bonded out. He came over here. He was getting ready to come to the interview one time and he made it over here. They followed him all the way over and arresting him right up the street. And then they tried to say boss talk one on one. Some little nigga on there. I never forget a nigga. I tried to say like boss talk to him and he said like we said him up. What the hell? You know, you know, Kenny, look, it wasn't Kenny. It wasn't Kenny. It wasn't Kenny. It was somebody on the live. I seen it. I was like, what the hell? They said, but they just be doing shit on him. The only reason why he said that, of course, you know, is because the day before that we was on live and he was like, Kenny, you got to come over here and do an interview. That was the same day. It was the same day. And then Kenny was trying to say what time it's and I told him, you know, you don't get him on. You don't get the time. Yeah. And that's the reason why because he wouldn't stop. I don't think Kenny beat. They cameras is real though. That's what I'm saying. He wouldn't stop talking. He wanted me to just like I like he don't like he don't feel people watching like it in the like the street nigga, man, I love the nigga to death, man. That's my little nigga, man. Life and take my life. Yeah. But at the end of the day, man, what don't kill you make you stronger, bro. So, you know, whatever you going through is for a reason and a season, bro. So I always look at that man and I'll be like, damn, man, you know, I know he got to go sit down, but watch when he come out, how much you gonna beat and thought and figured out stuff on a whole nother level. And I think he probably gonna see his most his pinnacle moments when he come home. You know what I mean? Not for real. So as we but he like he ain't never I ain't seen him. I just seen him last night to be honest. But he never moping around. He ain't sad about it. Taking it to the chain. I ain't never seen nobody taking no time to the chain like this. Like this is first time. Yes. Okay, that's why it's like, you know, he's getting a little trouble and you know, yeah, but first time actually going to sign it for time where you know, you're gonna have to go sit down for some time. You're like, bro, he just motivate me like not on some motivate me to look at it like that. But like how I can lose and still take it to the chain and just, you know what I'm saying? Get up every day and just go around but he young though. He young. So it's not like he got 40. Yeah, he got 40 years or nothing like that or whatever. He do his time. That's what he said. My little time come home. But he got to make sure when he come back home, he not in into none. Exactly. Yeah, I know. Mad Max. Yeah, he kind of came home and got his head right. Yeah, that's good. He told me he was coming home. I was naming everything. He don't even go about N. C. G. Mad Max. No, he's just Mad Max. Really? Is he still doing music? Yeah, he's still. Mad Max on his way up actually. So he can't. That's what I'm saying. You have it. I haven't. I want to though. Me too. I see the last time on Big D. The mogul. R. P. The Big D. The mogul man. The mogul media man. You know, I don't even want to talk about that cause I'm still messed up by that. You know what I'm saying? I'm pretty sure. We talk daily. You know what I'm saying? So but really, you know, when you think about just the guys that's going in and coming home, it's a lot of man. I heard your boy, uh, what's that nigga name uh, over there in Fort Worth? Go Yeyo. They say he about to come on top of the year. Yeah. So there's a lot of stuff that's still rolling on there. They just took Freddy. They just took Freddy, but he ain't gonna be gone. He's gonna be back for like he never left and that's a that's a hop skip and a jump. Yeah, that's a blessing. But uh on the on the back to the tip, I want to ask you a question though. Cause we it's always on our end. Like we got colleagues, rapper friends, you know what I'm saying? Don't you know what I'm saying? Might not be a go to jail or die or you know what I'm saying? But like is it do it be the same feeling? Like it's like y'all lost a colleague to or something like that? Like man, I'm gonna be like, you know, it's like we cool with these guys, but like it's you know what I'm saying? Like it ain't just like you lost your what I'm saying, but it's still like the same. You know what I'm saying? It happened to us all the time. But when you think about it like no matter how it happened, it always impacts me. Yeah. Because I'm a man that's trying to tell everybody about God. Right. So when you come on this show, I'm trying to let you know God is real. And so I'll I'll do everything else with you. We'll do the music, but I'm gonna let you know God is real. Right. So at the end of the day, when I lost Woody to live. Yeah. That was the first person I ever was interviewing. And then the next time you looked around a week later, we texted and we're talking about different stuff and then he'd gone. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That that was his you know, that was something that hit me hard. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And then you turn around and we lose uh uh was it Walk Like Jordan? Walk Like Jordan first. Yeah. Yeah. He was on here the same way and then you like damn. So all these relationships we're building with these people, me and him talking on the phone, he going back to LA, him and Solo Lucha going back and forth, having differences. But then he cool with it because you understand that Solo like to do TV and but but that's my guy blah blah. But we talking, bro. Then he pass away like that. Then you turn around and you you're sitting around and you hear strap. My boy. BFG strap. Boom. Then strap. He gets killed and he was just on here. Yeah. And I hooked him up with a couple of people. Yeah. Now you turn around. See what I'm saying? It don't stop. It don't stop. Like you steadily seeing this stuff after time, after time, after time. On top of that, you're hearing now Blake done got arrested and he ain't he might not be getting out. Didn't get out a little bit. But at the end of the day, you're still not comfortable with that. And that's family. Yeah. So it's like everything is just happening trifecta after trifecta after trifecta. Not to mention people that I just knew from my hometown passing away. Yeah. I'll tell you this much and y'all can take this to the bank. When you get over 35 years old, all you do is see people die and go to funerals. If you ain't one is dying. Yeah. So you think it's tough now. Wait till you hit about 35, 40. You're going to see number of people leaving this place, bro. And some of them going to be your same age and it ain't going to be from them getting killed by no gun. It's just they just fall in dead. Yeah. So you got to figure out how to get your life right with God. That's the most important thing. And get your spirit right, bro. So your family will understand how to live and see something they see in you when you're gone and can keep them going. Not for real. You know what I'm saying? Not for real. It hurts, bro. And that's probably why I'm written. But at the end of the day, all you can do is deal with what you get, what life gives you. You know what I'm saying? Not for real. See, and we both look at things differently. I look at it like, you know, we're only here for a moment. Death has no age on it, right? So we're all supposed to leave an impact on somebody somewhere for him. No matter how bad a person people talk about, oh, he robbed, he killed. He treats somebody in his life good. Exactly. He makes some sort of impact on somebody else's life. And whether somebody to look at his life and like, man, I don't need to go down that path because that's all it's going to lead to. And he saved somebody by that way. You know what I mean? Not for real. So everybody's life leaves something on somebody else. So how I look on death now as I got older, because I didn't do this when I was younger, is what do I need to learn from that person's life? So that's my way of not making that person's life go in vain. Yeah. You know what I mean? What do I need to learn? Sit back and really meditate on that person, everything that they did, whether you see them on social media or they actually had a personal impact on your life. Yeah. What do I need to learn? I love their hustle. You understand? I love the way how he planned. Yeah. But I looked at the fact that, you know, he had a lot of planning to, you know, because he talks about a lot of stuff he had in the works. But no matter how much man planned, God has the ultimate. Yeah, say so. Say so. But there's nothing wrong with planning. You know what I mean? We all supposed to plan. Exactly. Wow, man. But, you know, it's just life, bro. Let's get to the music, man. Yeah. You always trying to figure out a way to make sure we get to hear your music. You know what I'm saying? And I can appreciate that. I see that and you still put it on the Waters page too, right? Yeah, for sure. It's just so much love, man. And they tried to low key. I ain't gonna just say that, but like low key, like fans and like not even, I don't even know how I want to wear it, but basically like it kind of, the comments was kind of swaying me away because they was like, well, what are you music here? What are you music here? You know what I'm saying? But I gotta, that's why I started trying to, I got away from it. But what he would have wanted me kept dropping on his page. You gotta, you gotta do it. Behind what everybody's saying. Yeah, you can't go on this for him. You supposed to do it. You know what I'm saying? So, man, let me just, let me ask you about just that Aaron Rodgers, man. You know you, you sampled that 50 cent. It's easy to love me now. Yeah. You love me if I was down and out. Yeah. You still have love for me, girl. You see a lot of them. Nigga, listen. You sampled that old and then you drop bars on that whole thing. Straight up the Texas way, man. Yeah. Straight up, you know what I'm saying? Just went down through there, like what made you set that up that way? Like how I do my, how I do my real press guys, and that's like all samples, like I got it from sorry for the way, how I didn't do it, sorry for the way. So, most of the time how I do it, I really do it trollin' with my girl. I'm talking about in the car playing old songs, just singing on the hood, laughing in her face and stuff like that, but I be liking them old school beats. Like you know what I'm saying and what I do is I listen to it over and over and I have my engineer just put my beat pattern on it, you know what I'm saying? How I want to flow. And we just run it like that. Everyone out here that I want to go on. That's all right, like that. Is this 50 cent comment on it? No, no, yeah. It's gonna be there. It's gonna be, it's gonna get there. Cause really, I really don't be on that though, like everybody take 50 cent. You know what I'm saying? I really don't be on that, like not that I don't want them to see cause I do, but. Shoot, I'll be like tagging them. Yeah, I need to though. I don't know why I don't be on that. You should. I don't, I don't just be on that. Like it be just music to me. I really be doing it for my fans cause I ain't even want to drop no more sample tapes. Like, but everybody was like, but we want that. Like we want to say we like that. So. Yeah, do what your fans want. I cooked it up two weeks, two, three weeks and gave it to them. Wow, who produced that? Like who changed it? My engineer, I got a few of them, but mostly on that tape is Twiz Night 2-4. 2-4? Oh, I should remember that. When I met him, his night was 2-4 before we met. Really? That's a sign. That made us click like that. Man, I enjoyed it man. He was playing some beats. What he said? What's your name? Like 2-4? I'm 2-4. Yeah, we like, I swear to God, can't you make this a lock in after that? And they be my engineer, him, focus. I got uh. Energy? Uh, I miss your energy, but uh, I miss your energy, but I don't know him. Like I talk to him through the DMs and emails and stuff. I don't know him. I'll be trying to keep it down. I just seen him on that one track with you. Yeah. Um, what about Impatient? Impatient, uh, that's what uh, some of the songs he's in there though. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, y'all, y'all did your thing on that if I was talking about the golf course, y'all. Oh yeah, the video, uh, video shot by uh, who shot it? Visuals by D. Really? Yeah, one of my favorite Cameraman's, I got Shadow D, you know what I'm saying? Shadow I'm my Cameraman's, he's one of my favorites right now in the city. Uh, I just, I just be trying to be different, bro. Like people, um, me and D. was having this conversation, we were shooting, he was like, bro, so what make you do this? Like how you be, and I be like, bro, really, I just listen to the song and everybody think shooting up, uh, uh, gotta be a big budget, a big, uh, but you really just do it. Like I caught up there, I got a golf course, what time y'all boom, set that up, went up there, you know, went about the little golf stuff and we just literally, like we rented out the time at the golf course and I brought my Cameraman, they asked us why we got cameras and stuff, told him I'd do YouTube, but that's how we did it. Wow, I think that everybody think it's some big thing, but it's really just, you just gotta put, just do it. You want to shoot a video at McDonald's, pull up there and just do it, like, you know what I'm saying? Because it ain't like it's nice, you might, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Just do it. Man, so what do you think about, uh, this a little bit off-subject, but I gotta go there because I always say, I'm not privileged, I'll just come in here and not talk about things that's happening in the, in the media stuff, like what do you think about academics in the Saucy Santana's, uh, issue where they going back and forth? That's gotta ask you this. I mean, like, if you had a niggle, that was a big niggle that was saying niggle, I'm gonna, I'm gonna box you and he had some, uh, uh, some fingernails on, makeup coming across, but the niggle on two times your size, and he said, I'ma rock with the niggle. When I see you, I'ma see you niggle. And he, and he that sexuality, he playing like that? No, that's what he, that's what he say here, but he say when I see you. It's that. I'm getting to it. Yeah, like, and when I knock you out, I'm probably gonna go up in your back. See, I'm a girl, I'm a real man, like, I'm a man, like, I stand, like, I like, like, you know, I don't, I ain't against that, but I like girls, so I'm a man, so you're not gonna talk to me like that, like personally. But, but academics, he, he kinda teared up and it emotionally, he was like, I'm gonna have to go back and forth with you, I don't want to be counseled by the LGBTQ. Because a lot of people have gotten counseled by them. Man, please leave me alone, please leave me alone, man. And you know, he crying, he don't want to lose his, he don't want to lose his platforms. Yeah, he got deals and all types of stuff. So, so, so what do you, what would you do if you was caught up in a situation where you was being, uh, trolled and they were really trying to come for you from that standpoint? How would you deal with it? Man, I don't know because personally me, I don't even see me getting there with them type of people. Like, you know, I'm one of them dudes like, like, my, my, my girl, my girl has friends like that, you know what I'm saying? But when they talk on the phone, I leave the room. It's nothing against it or nothing like, but it's just what I believe in, you know what I'm saying? What I stand, I don't even want to mix us up. Yeah. My girl can't, we finna go out, I'm gonna stay there. You know what I'm saying? That's cool. Like, I do, I do, I think, you know what I'm saying? So, if one of them was coming at me like that, that was telling me how he gonna do this to me and when he knocked me out, he gonna do it. Like, I wouldn't see me engaging back either because it's just like, I'm not finna do that, man. Because if you see me, you're not gonna do that. I think you agree. I agree with you. Like, I probably wouldn't even spoke on that. Yeah, I'm not engaging in that. I argue with a female, a real female before I argue with somebody that think they're female. You know what I'm saying? Wow. I had to throw that at you, man. I had to throw that at you when you, when you look at, and I gotta say, I just heard Busey going in again on, on, on the fact of his, his, his, his mama, you know, was standing with the, with the, with the brother and that he not letting up on the situation that he's going to put that pressure. They forged this name. Yeah. They took his artist and they made money off of him and he trying to get him a lot. You know, he gonna take it to the max. Like, I'm gonna lock you up, his blood brother. Yeah. What do you think about that? I watched Busey interviews like, like a mug. So I, I'm into that. Like, it's, it's, it's, it's tricky because it's family, but they are, but when you, when you, when we join business, we, we still family, but we gotta put business before family because business take care of the family. You know what I'm saying? So if you running big and then it's not like he trying to kill him or nothing like that. Like, you saw, he did do that, but he wasn't killing them though. He could have got out of the car with a two, two, three and then shooting them $5 million. This Busey, like, I don't know, I don't know what he did, but what they say he did, like this supposed to be one of the baddest MFs around here. So it's just like, like, you know, I'm saying that's how you kind of got to take that type of stuff because at the end of the day, we are not doing it to make ourselves feel good. He wants $5 million. So the best way for him to get his, they probably spent it and all type of that. So the best way for him to recruit is $5 million is to get, and he got money. So like, all that, like, I feel like, like, he can try to do the gangster, like, oh, I ain't gonna snitch on, you know, like, Busey or me in there, like, you know what I'm saying? You ain't really got no, you ain't really got no. Like, yeah, you got some to stand on because you Busey, but you ain't got to just, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, you ain't just... Well, let me ask you this. Do you think Busey's wrong for the post he put out about Dallas, about he ain't coming back here unless they're giving that 150? If they don't give him that 150 because he said they shot him in Dallas when he was on his live, he was saying that. What do you think about that? He didn't want 50 to come back. They shot that man. I wouldn't come back nowhere I got shot either if I didn't know who shot me or why I got shot. Well, so you say you wouldn't go back, but he said for the money he'll come for the right amount of money he'll come back. For the right amount of money I'm gonna come back because I'm paid to be protected this time for the right amount of money. You know what I'm saying? You send 150 or 50 up front or whatever he want. I'm pretty sure he's gonna come back right this time. You know what I'm saying? He's gonna be protected not even on the he coming back super duper. Now I'm talking about security, the real protection like security, police protection. That's probably how he want to come back out here because he got shot. He kind of messed him up too. I heard like he was he messed up for a little bit. Man, we love Busey in Dallas, man. I like Busey. I ain't just gonna cap and say I was the biggest Busey fan. I was on Gucci in future and all that. Man, no, I definitely but I like Busey this personality and what is his story and all that. Busey a little bit more closer being in Louisiana and just meeting them. I can relate to him a little more. I like Atlanta, don't get me wrong and I love those guys down there but when they come down to Louisiana and Texas and the way we swing like it's a little bit of closer connection. If I'm gonna go like old school like I'm probably gonna like I'm old zero slim thug. Exactly. But still, like I said when I go buddy, buddy, would you but I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to say Juven all them too. I'm an older cat. So I'm not gonna leave. You can't when you start saying slim now you dipping back to the skiff and wacko and all of them boys. You got to you got to you got to feel me on that. You got to you got you got some boys down there that was really getting to it when they come down to it. Like Lil Wayne, Juven, Manifresh with crazy on the beats. You know what I'm saying? He was stupid. You got once you go down that lane, you can't even just I respect it for shoulder. Like it's respected. It just wasn't what I was on. My big brother more so my big brother was a Gucci fan. So we had definitely love. I've met Gucci a few times. Like big, big future fan. I feature my favorite artist because my big brother. So you going Gucci instead of Jeezy? Yeah, for sure. Wow. Yeah, Gucci for Jeezy for sure. Wow. Well, Gucci and come out with that recently. Jeezy had a crazy one. That one when he was Daddy used to listen to Jeezy. Nigga. Young Zilla from the bottom of the mouth. Man, you don't want that smoke. Man, you better leave that nigga where you at. Jeezy bad. I didn't know how to do them ad libs real good. Yeah, that nigga. Got it. Jeezy. I'm going to say. Jeezy. I like the way. Well, no, Jeezy talk about that dope, man. Got it. You too. But Jeezy just a little bit better at it, bro. Jeezy a little bit better at it, bro. I ain't feel alive. See, Gucci will take you down, Rob. You beat you, shoot you. Gucci was really a street nigga. He trapped it all. You hear me? Like, I'm going to tell you right now. He's taking trouble. The troubles I've seen in that. Gucci was really doing time. Gucci was really having issues with different niggas on a whole another level facing a lot of like, like what we see in Kenny being all of them doing right now. That's what Gucci was doing. When he is high during his highest times. Yeah. You know, Jeezy kind of, you know, he moved over to the right. When the BMF niggas start getting locked up, he say, hell no. I'm not with all that. I'm a rapper. They signed for 30, 20 years. See what I'm saying? And that's what you see. And then, you know, you look at God in them, you hear the stories, but them boys kind of stay clean. You know what I mean? They really weren't, you know, they really weren't, you know, just getting caught up in that way. You could see it. I like God. He gave me. I never seen it. I never seen it. I never seen them where it was like, oh, yeah, until, you know, when the, on the time I heard of anything was when, when the dog situation happened and they would, this was before, you know, I, you didn't really hear a, a, your guy to get in his hands dirty like that. He kind of stayed, you know what I mean? Real player was just doing this thing. You know, like he's doing now really, but he trying to get back to that. He, and I know I can feel he trying to detach himself from all those stigmas. That's why you don't really see him come out like he used to. Yeah. I always wonder why a lot of these older rappers that y'all love so much, why they haven't came out with anything recently? Yeah. I'm gonna be, I'm a Birdman fan for all these niggas you just named. Oh, why they stop making music? I just think like music, one of them things like that, like when you get older, you lose passion for it. So you, and it's just like anything gets, like I tell, I tell my partners all the time, y'all want to rap, rapping is something you can get good at. Like if you go in there, you, because I wasn't good at it. You know what I'm saying? At first, like I ain't the best rapper, but I'm good up to me. I sound good. I'm saying to my fans, my people, I sound good. So it's one of the things you just go and get better at. So I think like as you get older, you lose passion for it. So your, your records don't sound, it ain't as much passion. Now you got money. So you ain't got to. You ain't got to grind. That's all right. You know what I'm saying? It's all about family. Everybody going, we all, we ain't got too many. I don't want to get on there and talk about, you know what I'm saying? But you, you know, they send them niggas, man. Like when you look at whether it be, if you looking at say Gucci, or if you looking at one of them niggas like Jay, some niggas being sent, you know, to Jay Coles or just some niggas that's connected to them. They being sent, you know, G, G is the only one I don't see connected to different people that he bushing out. Now he did help with muscle on the beat, YG back in the days. He jumped on the track. And I think that helped the career out for YG a lot. Why you think he just wouldn't help with his people? Helping niggas or like what? Well, you don't see the people that was with him at first. I've had a lot of them on this show. And they just don't, when I talk to Blood Raw, when I talk to Goldmouth, when I talk to, it was one mode, Jody Breeze. Yeah. Like you can tell that they not connected the way they was before, you know, when it was going down. But I hate them type of stories because it always looked like the person at the top was on some of them. Well, you can't really just say that. I don't know the story. They don't even be like that all the time. But it's just from outside looking in, they be looking like that because the first thing they say, oh, you got the money and you know what I'm saying. But most of it don't, I don't know. It's just, I hate them type of stories. Well, you know, that's why I try to be my same niggas. Say T.I. and T.I. still got some of the day one niggas with him. When you look at Nelly, he don't have nobody that was with him. He would have shunted now. Like all them niggas is mad over there. And in St. Louis, St. Lunatic said, he'll never do it again. Yeah. Never. I'm never going to work with him again, you know. But then BG said, he ain't never going back to Bird, man. And he back over there. He ain't back over there. But he did. It's a song that he said, I don't know. I woke up to that beat. I woke up to that beat. He's coming back. He's really coming back. I ain't, yeah, Juvia, that's my dog. But I ain't rocking like that. He was not going back. But now, see, time can heal things. You know what I'm saying? That's all it be. You ain't even got to do that. Some of it's just a conversation, right? Exactly. Some too much pride to have a conversation. So like you said, time heals. Sometime the conversation don't got to be had. It's just, I miss you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. If I let, we move past. It's old now. How do you think big, no, not big. My boy, what's his name? The little nigga that was rapping with Dolph. Keeglock. Keeglock. How do you think he's doing since Dolph not here no more? Let's be honest. It's tough because it's like, everything on you now, all of a sudden. You know what I'm saying? Most time, I'm going to put it in football respect. You know what I'm saying? Something like that. Like, if you got to see your quarterback and you a junior or sophomore, you get to watch your senior quarterback leave and you know he coming to graduate. So you know what's coming. That don't happen like that. You just wake up one day and he gone, you know what I'm saying? And now everybody expecting you to take the spot. What if you weren't ready to take it? What if you didn't want, what if he had some other plans? Now everybody throwing it on him. He doing good though, because he got, he back. You know what I'm saying? He got some, I think he got what, that Let's Go song going crazy right now for sure. And he got another song on the tape too. That's kind of going crazy. I'll be looking at the numbers too on him. So he kind of, he getting back in the groove, but that's an L period. Because besides him being his boss and CEO, he's the guy that put him on. I think it was cousin or something like that. That's just, that's just wicked too. Well, what do you think about Rallo? He come out and automatically said, I'm not going to ever get with CMG, cause they called Dove gone. He pretty much came out. He came out just like that. I seen it on the blogs. That new came out the first day. I don't know if that nigga was thinking about that the whole time he was in there. That new came out and said, I'm not walking. But you know him when he back out, had the little problem too though? I ain't even know. I didn't even know. I said, where does nigga come from? This like, was he really with? That's probably why he stamped it down so hard, but he didn't even know about where it is. He had a little problem before he went to jail. Like it was a little video that surfaced about money back out on him. I didn't even know that. Yeah, it was. I guess it wasn't just that much of a, for me, I didn't see it. You know what I'm saying? It was a while ago too. But he sure came out like that. Did you see it? You see it? You haven't seen it. That new came out with the sprinter van behind him talking. Cad nigga, I'm out and I'm going to let you niggas know. I ain't doing nothing. We see him. I'm like, what the hell is going on? What's going on where I like that? It coming. His first day out is crazy. I can't wait to see the video. What is this nigga saying? You know, he always be like that on his songs though, straight to the point. I don't even like his music like that though, but I like him though. I like, it be like that though, I don't like his music. I don't really don't like his music at all. But I like him though. Like one piece of music. I like, I like him. One, I like the way he carried himself in the way. Everybody around him don't say nothing but good stuff. That's what I'm talking about, man. When you think about just a nigga to come out on that first day out, if you really want to stir stuff up. If that's how you want to stir stuff up. So yeah. He come out like, nigga, I'm a hero. Rock, rock nigga. Yeah. What y'all niggas think about this? And like everybody else wasn't saying nothing. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I want to talk about See a Star produced by Energy, the one I'd asked you about. I wrote that down in my notes. Like what, that was about, that was a year ago, wasn't it? Yeah. Like, like from that to where we at today with like Aaron Rodgers, what do you think the difference is in that wise and barrio brand? In the music, I don't think it's too much of a big difference because you know what I'm saying? I just think like I'm growing type, you know what I'm saying? But I just think I'm just, I'm just growing as an artist, as a person, as an individual type. But I don't really see the, like on the tape, I just dropped, like I said, I kind of went, sorry for the weight weighing. So that's all samples. So I'm just giving you straight bars and you know what I'm saying? And See a Star, more of us. You know what I'm saying? It's more about me type stuff. And then I got LaRunny on the remix on See a Star. That's hard. That's hard. That's hard. LaRunny, that's my dog. That's hard. That's hard. I like that, man. I love to see you guys coming. I got to get him on here. I never had him on here. That's my nigga. Tell him, I'll call him when we get out. Hey man, boss talk. You probably need to go over there. They don't think he's over there having a great day. You know what I'm talking about? He going to pull up all you for sure. But he didn't even. He going to pull up all you for sure. But I definitely enjoyed it. He, to his flowers, he want to really, like he ain't charged me nothing for the video. He, it's my song. I'm talking about raving the store as he called a man and rented Rose West on his own, had the Rose West pulled up. Wow. He ain't charged me nothing for the video. Told me to send him way more. We got way more mute. Like I ain't, he's not here not doing that with his type of statue in my city. You know what I'm saying? Like, and I ain't even from Fort Worth. He just put, like, just fucked with me. That's love. You know what I'm saying? Like, we from Texas, man. Yeah. Yeah, they're like big extra plugs. Say nigga, we from Texas. Yeah. See it? Now you got to ride with that because that's big. That's big, you know what I'm saying? How do you feel about big extra plugs? This is probably going to be my last question. He doing this thing. He doing this thing. Shout out to him for sure because he another one that, like, we did the feature. You know what I'm saying? I came out some bridge. He ain't charged me too much at all though. Like, really locked it in through my visuals. But from that, like, and this is the thing I want to say too, like, artist tip. If you pay for features, I'm not saying, like, you got to pay for a feature or whatever, but that feature can lead you somewhere. Not saying go crazy, spend five, 10,000 dollars because you know what I'm saying? Who got that type of, that's label money. But if you got an artist in your city doing this thing, respect this hustle because you're going to pay the weed man 2,500 for a bowl or whatever, you know what I'm saying? So respect this hustle because when I ask, I feel a sign of weight when they ask me, when they ask me for free features, like, give them 500,000, you know what I'm saying? Like, respect my hustle, but I respect this hustle and his feature led me somewhere else. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? To some more on him. So, shout out to him. Free my boy, why is it? Bari, not to you. I'm sorry. What's that nigga? No, not Blake. What's the nigga name? Flip. Flip. Flip. He posted it. That's who we just talked to, right? Yeah. That nigga lied to me. That nigga posted to have me some music back over here. We people be going up now. He didn't want to listen to me because I didn't even know he was going to go to jail, but I was... You tried to tell him, didn't you? We posted to have a tape and everything, and they locked up here and had no music. See what I'm saying? And he won't rely on me. That's what he was doing. He did more interviews than anything. Yes. You know what I'm saying? The nigga over here sat with me. Now, he should have been in the studio with you. You wasn't coming, he should have... We had him mixed up. We're going to get it right this time, dude. Now, he's going to be out here in a minute. He too talented to not care about it. So when I see him getting in that mode to where he don't care about it, because he better than me. So when I see him getting in that mode to where he don't care about it, I'd be like, bro, I don't want to punch him. That's my real... Like, we don't want to sign him up, but that's my real brother. So we didn't... I really don't want to get at him because you holding us back. We supposed to be somewhere. That's it. I have a question. Oh, you okay? So every time when we asked people, it was like, okay, who's blowing up in the city? Who's big? Who's growing? Everybody say why San Mario? They sure do. Okay. So for as long as you've been doing it, I'm thinking that you should already been all the way up here. Right. What's holding you back? To be honest, a lot of these niggas got a hood behind them. You know what I'm saying? I ain't no lame nigga, but I'm not from the hood. You know what I'm saying? I'm from Dunkinville, the woods. You know what I'm saying? Now, everybody grew up different. So I lost my dad. So it kind of made me tough. And like I'm not green or I ain't going for a lot of shit, but a lot of niggas got hood behind them or make them look tough. You know what I'm saying? And I'm just trying to bring, I'm trying to come at a different way. Like I do a lot of dancing and shit. Like I make rap fun. And out here, they don't like that. They don't like that. Now I want to bring it back to, you know what I'm saying? I ain't say we got to go back to the boogie area because that's different type of music. But I make rap fun. You guys, all these niggas in my videos, we having fun. But it's the same thing with social media or blogging. People go for more of the drama as much as they say, oh, you messy or you this or you that. That's what get all the views. When you post good stuff, you get maybe 100, 200 views. But when you post like crazy stuff, that's why you see people out here doing the most or even rappers, female rappers, saying the most because that's what get the views. They just said something. Dallas Glover the other night, they was talking about how Dallas rappers suck. Now I know I could have, I seen a few rappers, you know what I'm saying? In my lane say something about it. You know what I'm saying? I know I could have said something probably boosting my live or boosting my vibe. I just ain't, I don't know, bro. I'm different. Like my people ain't right. Like I said, my daddy raised me all the way to, I was 14 and he passed. Then my mama took over what she could do. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just different. Like I don't let a lot of stuff get to me. Like I'm not with the, I'm not trying to basically answer your question. I'm not trying to go out here and do some stupid to get, you know what I'm saying? I just feel like I'm an authentic nigga. So I don't got to, like I'm gonna win regardless whether it be in these music and life or business. You know what I'm saying? It's just a step. That's real. But then even like people, people listen to music to relate to it, right? And with you, I see, cause you're a father and you're a son. Yeah. So do you put a lot of that in your music? Yeah. I met you. I sat at my daughter out of town with me cause she'd be right there when I'd be recording. So it's easy to shout her out, but yeah. Man, thank you for coming on the show, man. We always love having you and you always can come back. You ain't got to stay gone some more. You got to pick up the phone and call a nigga. Your biggest problem is not building a relationship with the right nigga, which is me. Yeah, not for real. You're going to be calling me. You ain't checked in in like six months. That's my bad, too. Not about three months. We talked, we said that we were going to do it one time. Then we're like, we didn't do it. You hit me up. You like, I'm ready. I'm like, I'm going to go out of town. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going to call me. Bullshit. You're okay. But that's all right. We're going to get it, man. We love you. I appreciate y'all having me, love y'all, too. This is always y'all platform. Ever since World of Two Live came first and paved the way for everybody else, y'all always welcome here. I appreciate y'all for having us. Man, come on, man. Y'all always. Y'all is family, though. Yeah, y'all family is like so. In and done, man. We coming up here and set these cameras up, man. Not for real. Appreciate y'all for having us. Yes, sir, man. Treat us like that. You're always going to get that love. Yeah. It's been another great segment. A Boss Talk 101, where the bosses talk. And we out.