 I want you to prove to me that you are real. Verbally or? Any way you choose. Prove to me that you are real. I don't believe you are real. That's all very convincing. Prove it. They can see me. They can hear me. We take a coffee break? No. It's only you and me. I want you to prove to me that you are real. Not to them. You can see me. You can hear me. I can't touch you. You can touch me. Maybe you can smell me. If you are closer. Maybe... I don't know maybe you can feel something about me or I about you. You've heard of hallucinations. Yes. Maybe I'm hallucinating that you are real. I'm hallucinating that you are touching me. I'm hallucinating that you are touching me. Lydia is trying to convince me that she is real and she says that I see her. But we have hallucinations where people think that they see something and it's all there. She says that I can touch her and we have type of hallucination that's called tactile hallucination and touch something and it's all there. She says that I can hear her and of course the most common form of hallucination is auditory hallucinations where we can hear voices that are not there including voices that tell us to keep our family and we keep our family but there was no such force. So auditory hallucinations tactile hallucinations visual hallucinations at this stage are not convinced that you are real. I don't know where you are. Can you find something that will convince me completely that you are real? Beyond doubt. Not possible to be hallucination. No. It's a tactile. The soulistic thing. Soulism. No, I'm not vouching for any influence of the system. I'm asking you to convince me that you are real. You told me that I can see you. You told me that I can touch you. You told me that I can hear you. Can you convince me that you are real? The ones I I can be real. Do I want you to be real? Oh yeah. If I want you to be real it makes things even worse because maybe you are real. Maybe you are real. So the thing is, the thing is this there is no way she can convince me that she is real. Because of it. Or maybe it doesn't matter because there is something called shared psychosis where a group of people develop common hallucination to all of them. There is no way to convince me or you as a group that she is real. Since you are not real you can be real. You and you for the function. What is she feeling? What is she feeling in her head? Hold on. Wait. And what is he feeling? How do you know that? I don't know but I feel the same. How do you know that you feel the same? I feel that too. You feel it? How do you know that he feels it? Same water, yes, but are you the same person? So how do you know? How do you know anything about him? Same water, yes, but are you the same person? Are you him? Is he your... So how do you know anything about him? Think. How do you know? He has water, you have water and you say he is feeling... How do you know what he is feeling? You don't know. You said that he is feeling wet. You said that she is feeling... How do you know? You said that she is feeling... I will talk in English but you will say it must not. You said that she is feeling wet. That when she is feeling wet, it is the same like you are feeling wet. Okay. You are feeling wet, she is feeling wet. How do you know it is the same feeling? Now I tell you. But how do you know that she is feeling wet like you are feeling wet? How do you know it is the same feeling? She is a person. And you are a person. That's common basis. So, tell me. Are you the same person? Are you the same person? No. So how do you know that her wetness is your wetness? How do you know that the way, the way, natural, that she feels wet is the same way that you feel wet? Because I know that she is a normal with normal feelings. So what you are saying is this. You are saying we are two identical machines. We are the same machines. We are machines with programming to react in certain ways. So you are saying we are identical. Because look, if you are not identical, you cannot know anything about it. If you are not identical in every bit, every aorta, every atom, every molecule, if you are not exactly the same, you cannot know how she feels wet. But if you are identical, if you are two copies of the same machine, iPhone 6, iPhone 6, machines are the same. Even machines are not the same. If you ever work with machines, each machine is its own personality. But machines are the same. If I take my laptop to this technician, that technician, that technician, that technician – we all know what machines are the same. Are people machines? No. How do you know she feels wet? Like you feel wet? The answer is you don't know. You don't know that she feels you never know. You don't know that she feels wet the same way. You don't know that she feels pain the same way. You don't know that she sees the colour red the same way like you. You can agree to call this red, but that's it. You don't know that she experiences red the same way you experience red. There is dartonism, color blindness, two people looking at red. They will both call it red, but the dartonist experiences red differently. So we don't know. Thank you.