 Yeah, we on boss talk one-on-one. Yeah, we gonna talk You know right now. I'm doing a lot of work with ESPN's undefeated, which is yeah Yeah, I read up on a website where they focus on sports and culture and it's really about Which is another way of saying it focus on black folks. Okay, okay And so I've been doing a lot of work on Jackson State and Dionne Sanders because he's coaching there There's a sign behind you that says I was called by God to make a difference What does that mean as it relates to Jackson State? That means I was called by God himself Not a man next to the man, but God himself to come here and Provoke change though when I say change I mean change. Yeah, I'll about to ask you about him and You know Deionne and I were talking a few weeks ago Cuz he was talking to a couple of his players And they were shocked at reporters in the locker room because this was during the middle of the week And he said I've been knowing Jacques 25 years. Yeah, he said he's around cuz he sound like it right now stop playing bro Cuz he's the same dude consists today That he was 10 years ago that it was 20 years ago that it was 25 years ago when I met him Changed same in there yesterday and fell, you know, he said so and you brought up the word and he actually said it He said it's that consistency that I don't have to worry about him, which is why He's right right now. That's what cuz I don't have to worry about it. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's gonna do his job and it's cool and But but the point of that is it's the relationships which are built on authenticity and built on realness and Again, and I've said this many times It's the people you had the best relationships with that you can have the toughest questions for Because they know that you don't have an agenda. Exactly. So if I ask you why she's like I was talking to Dion the other day and After a game and he basically said the players aren't good enough. Wow There's disconnect. We teaching them. They were telling it to him. They're not getting it. Mm-hmm. Okay Now you can accept that answer Or you can say well, I gotta ask you dog The obvious question is are y'all teaching them well enough? Are y'all breaking it down for them to understand? Yeah, that's it. That's the question that you would ask anybody. Yeah, unless Well, man, he gonna get mad at me. So can't worry about it Well, I mean you say that but people people are worried about it. Yeah, I know it I get I'm kind of like that on my job. So I get exactly what you're saying So that's the question you have to ask. Yeah, and then when you ask that question Oh, you get a much better answer dog We only had eight defenses in we start talking about really with the details Defenses in I went to the sideline said what defense y'all want me to call what can y'all what can we call? Well, y'all won't have an any mental mistakes. They said call this we called that next play We gave a 43 yard touchdown do ran down silent. He probably still running Okay, so now that's a great quote. That's a great answer. Why get that answer? I wasn't afraid to ask the follow-up question, which was in a nice way. Is your father today learning it? That's exactly right. I get it a hundred percent. So how do you think he's doing down there? I think you're doing fine because This is you know, this is an interesting year, this is not his team Okay, like I would submit to you that are the 22 players who started the last game. I Would say the over and under would be Five and a half starters in the fall Wow You take the over you take the under I would take the under Mm-hmm, you know, so I don't think a lot of the guys playing right now will be playing in the fall Wow, and so I think he's done a good job. I think it's uh, but you know anybody takes over position like that They haven't won in seven years. Yeah, that dude ain't no miracle worker