 Aloha, and welcome to this week's episode of The Millennial Mind. I'm your host, Nicole Alexandra, and I'm my little late moshes. There are many ways we like to approach nausea and other symptoms of stress, ranging from the homeopathic, such as peppermint and ginger, to the avoidant, binge drinking and looking at photos of cats all day. Today we will be smothering our stress on a different platform, sound, and to soothe our nausea with her lustrous voice. We have Alyssa, a producer and singer. Alyssa is the 10th child of her Mormon family, a self-proclaimed disappointment and proud mother to her cat named Tiger. Now to simulate our appetite, we have Mala, a hip-hop artist and ordained minister, also a combat veteran and Blackfield in Taekwondo, Mala indulges in veganism and collecting duck paraphernalia. By their stage names, welcome Chris Moon and Super Mala Man. Thank you for having us, Nicole. Aloha. Happy to be here. I see you. Aloha. So, we all met on Twitter and the internet, so why do you trust me enough to come? Well, I've always had the belief that you should trust every stranger you meet on the internet. So, you know, once we met, I was like, okay, you know. That's when it was all sealed. Yeah, it was a deal. You could ask me anything. I'll do it. I actually met both of you guys separately on the internet, but I've made a lot of actually really cool friends and coincidences via the internet. So I guess that's why. I mean, like, I'll pull up to somebody's house that I've never met the first time to make music with them and I'll just be like, I might die today. I might get murdered. We'll see. And you know, I haven't got to murdered yet, so far so good. Well, I think most of us don't really care if we're going to get murdered or killed. It's 2017. It's 2017. There's no harm in that. It's going to happen some way or another, but do you have any rules or restrictions for yourself on who you're going to meet? What makes a person either sketchy or too boring to hit up? I think the sketchiest thing, the number one disqualifier is that they have more followers than me on Twitter. Right. You know? That's very suspicious as you have around 1700, you know? 1700. What makes us suspicious? I don't know. I don't trust them. Yeah. I think they're there for cloud. What did you do? What did you do? Sell yourself. Sell yourself. You know what I'm saying? There's a sort of hierarchy going on. Exactly. So have you ever found yourself, I guess, cat-fished musically? Yeah, I actually have, like somebody, I remember I was in New Mexico for a secret government mission, but I was out there and this guy hit me up and he's like, oh man, you know, I heard you were really dope, like come through, we have a studio, it's going to be great. And I get there and it was literally, like I had to hold the microphone in my hand when I was recording my rap, so I mean the song was dope, but he did not have a studio. It was just not a studio. The only time I was musically cat-fished was I did an internet collab, this was like the only internet collab that was not good and like it was a very, very first collab I ever made and plus I was like a budding producer at the time, so I was like, hmm, I want to get somebody to do a 16 on this and I had made friends with this dude on Instagram who was like from the 76, just like Unicorn. And yeah, so then I let him do a thing on my verse, but he like would not send me anything back and I was like, where is it, where is it, it was like months and I want to drop my song or anything and he was like, oh yeah, I got it tomorrow, I got it tomorrow. Finally, that right tomorrow came and then he sent it to me and it was like trash. But I posted it anyway, it's because I really liked what I did to it. So what I'm really curious about is when someone wants to collab and you pull up and they're trash, do you pull out or keep it? I ended up privating that track. Right now I have somebody else writing a 16 for it. Sorry Edgar. Oh, I know, I know, I was 16, no, so like I didn't know any better and like you had freestyles on Instagram that were videos so I was like, hmm, this is kind of cool, like I thought it was going to be good. Honestly, I give him a C plus for the track, so he didn't fail, but I need to be at least. I find when people rate others in terms of appearance, it's usually out of that out of 10 scale, which really doesn't make much sense. So you say someone's a 7 out of 10, that's a 70%, that's a C. That's passing. That's true. It's passing. That's all that matters. That's all that matters. It's good enough. You know, I go by the... I read his talent by the letter grading system. Letter grading. His aesthetic is another... It's a different story. It's another scale. Why are you guys roasting this guy? I'm not roasting you. I'm pouring. He's just not on my track anymore. He musically catfished you. It's getting privated. You've been musically catfished. I think that's a line that once it's crossed, you have to set boundaries and watch your trust. It has to be with your trust. He didn't mix it. He didn't even try to audio engineer it. Disrespectful. Disrespectful. So, since a lot of people are meeting each other online, do you find that it's mostly within Hawaii or have you ever done international or national collabs? I actually have done national and international collabs. They're really cool. People from the UK are really good at producing and they're really nice and they let me do my thing on it. Normally, those are strictly online, but it's also nice to do local collabs because you actually get to meet with the artist and vibe with them in the studio and see how you guys' artist chemistry works together before making a song. It usually ends up better when you guys are friends and shit like that and things like that. 100%. I almost prefer live stuff. I make music online with people from all over Europe or whatever, but it's nothing better than getting super drunk and being face to face with an artist and doing musical. It's data mashing. Yeah. Yeah. Essentially. That's exactly it. You get all of your different ideas to get super drunk. It all flows. Yeah, it creates something beautiful. When you're finding other artists to interact with on the internet, is it easier to find someone who you can vibe with or there's like a wide selection of people out there and a lot of them might be sketchy or just plain boring or bad or trash. There's a lot of people who are trash. Yeah. Musically. Yeah. Absolutely. I guess intuition. Intuition. Yeah. I think Edgar was the only collab I ended up like regretting. Regretting. But like every other collab I've done like meeting people and stuff like that in person hasn't something that I was very thankful for and very humbled by. To be honest, I'll collab with anybody, anybody on the whole internet. I respect that, I think both. I can't relate, but that is fun because you can see like try different things that you're not normally doing like with the same people that you do make music with. Like challenge yourself and see what you're actually good at. Do you feel with Hawaii and the size of our community that it's hard to avoid people that you already know or who do you not know within this community? Yeah, it is a pretty small community. But I feel like that's a good thing because you know everybody. You deal with everybody all the time, you know what the producers are, you know what events are going down, where the shows are going to be, et cetera, et cetera. Like I think I went to like Three Christ Moon shows before I even actually like met her offline. So like because it's a small community, like we can be a part of each other's thing way easier. Right. And how does this play into organizing shows and booking events with such a small community? Do you feel that it's sort of the same people in a circle jerk or like we're occasionally wrangling new people in every few months? It's a little bit of both honestly. Like you do get like the normals to come out because they're like with it and they understand like how these shows go down or like how it could be like a really fun show with a lot of good energy or a really like messy show which and everyone's like why are we even here? But like I think that show that I just say that you came to is like the first time I really threw a show and that turn out ended up being really good. There's like a lot of people I did not know they that I didn't really get to meet or anything but like definitely same circle also like kind of slowly breaking out getting other people involved or acknowledging the small scene that we have which is actually pretty dope. There's like really talented people in Hawaii. Yeah. I feel particularly in the genre that you guys focus on but a lot of people are down for it here. I've been to a few like lesser known electronic shows and... Those are fun. They're fun but depressing. There's like five people. You go to the show, the time that they say it's gonna start, no one's there. Like a few hours. I mean especially in Hawaii when like I haven't been to shows in other places but I've really like LA the doors are shut it's 5,000 people in there. The crowd is gonna break the door down. People are like smoking everywhere. It's very relaxed. There's one well-known venue in Hawaii, the Republic. You can't lie down on the floor there when there's no one in the room. I was like in the back by the food by the bar and I just like closed my eyes for one second and then a security guard came up to me and slapped my knee with his flashlight and was like no sleeping. I was like he's forcing me to turn up. He's not even gonna let me like rest for one second. I know I do turn up though but still the girl was trying to catch a break. So how do you find venues or shows where you can really express what you need to especially in such a small community? Is it underground? I think it's easier as a small community because it's like there's only so many places you can do where all the small bands go to the same places. Someone's like oh I know of that place. I went there for this other thing. Mainly Hawaiian, Brains and the Republic. I don't really like either of those places but I'll still do it because it's like the best that Hawaii offers. One of the things that my organization for the free is actually working on is throwing more and more shows in like different places. Like people don't stand to go because I mean Hawaiian, Brains, everybody does it. We're working on an event now that's coming in May 26th. We're gonna be throwing it in a warehouse. So we're planning on having it packed just the whole floor. I feel like with how beautiful Hawaii is there's wedding venues. There's all kinds of different places and we kind of stick to oh we're going to this bar and performing on stage and to the same people over and over again because it's a small island. So if we want to actually evolve the community here then we've got to do something different. So that's our goal. Change it up. That's true. Especially with the size, there's town where all the things are and then all the residential places around it where there's nothing really to do. And with a lot of focus on commercial things like tourism, weddings, what most people come to Hawaii for because of the beauty. When parties are usually at night in town in the same areas I think there's a lot of places that you could use. Particularly beaches although electricity would be. We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Solar power or something. Solar power. We'll just put it in a jar. Heat powered, sand powered, milk powered. We're getting there. So we're gonna cut to a break real soon. Shift things around. But I wanted to bring up a picture. I fell in love with someone on the internet again. And that's from the guest that wasn't able to show up today. Alexandra. I just wanted to shout her out. And I'll tell a little bit more about her after the break. Hey everybody. That's Ian, social media manager here at ThinkTek Hawaii. Thanks for tuning in. Sorry to break into your show. If you're listening on the podcast, thanks for listening. Watching on YouTube. We appreciate the subscription, etc. If you are a long-time listener or viewer of ThinkTek Hawaii, you would know that we are on every day five to six hours a day. Basically streaming stuff that's happening here in Hawaii that matters to everybody worldwide basically. There's a lot of stuff that we've got going on and we're excited about many of them. 2017 is gonna be really cool. But right now I can tell you that we are on iTunes where you can listen to all of this stuff now. We're really excited about how that's going. And we have just started on the street feature where we take a camera out to the street and stream live to you guys out there and getting what people in the local community out. What they want or are thinking about and sharing that with you. We're really excited about all that stuff. We're really excited about you guys watching and following us on all the social media sort of things. Instagram, Facebook, Twitter. All that good stuff. Thank you for us. Think Tech H.I. Watch us on O'Lello. Thank you so much. Everybody here appreciates it. Hello. Think Tech H.I. So we're back from the break and in honor of our very special vegan friend Alexandra I'd like to just take a moment and talk about what she's done for the community. I wanted to ask her why she did it and how she did it. But I'll never know. But what she did do was listen to a song from Lincoln Park for 24 hours straight. She started off in her house playing them on speakers and eventually she had to go out into the real world for school work. So she brought earphones and she continued listening to the same song on repeat for 24 hours. So I don't know why she did it but she must have been crazy. Now a clip from Chris Moon's most recent music video of the Koi Jam. Shouts out Noelle Kenney. She shot that video. Kanye featuring Kanye. Gummy Maine. She's very... I appreciate her a lot. She's got a really good eye. Yes. I'm so glad she collabed with me. Tell us about that video and the burn. So Mia Noelle had been trying to shoot a music video together for a minute but it always never fell through because she doesn't live in Hawaii. She's from Hawaii but she lives in San Francisco. Now in Japan. Now she lives in Japan. So we finally got together and then I was like I only had one music video before this video and I was pissed about that because I wanted to keep building my repertoire of visuals and sound. So when she came home from San Francisco again she hit me up and I was like okay yeah let's build. Let's work. I love the vision. And we made that music or like we only had like two hours to shoot that music video. We went out to Diamond Head to shoot it and as soon as we got out of the car there was like this white man with a parrot and he was trying to like get tourists to buy pictures with the parrot. He was like oh $5 and like all the tourists were like crowding around him and then she came up to me and I was like dude that would be so sick if we could get that bird in the video and I was like I'm gonna do it. So I tipped that dude to like have the bird and I feel really bad for Konani girl. Shout out to her you know she's a white man slave but and we all anyways normally yeah but we're all parrots yeah being domesticated in Waikiki in Waikiki we use for music videos I know literally she's beautiful though she was a really good sport she bit my lip and I was like is she trying to fight me? no but she was like trying to show me that like she loves me and my cat does that too so I was like okay I'm very honored a fine line there he is between aggression and compassion we really gotta watch out for especially in art when we take things so sensitively and express ourselves so openly true absolutely absolutely and so for the viewers out there there is a twitter feed if you want to ask questions it's at thinktech hi so what is the cure for science that is what is on the topic now the cure for science tell us why or how we can cure science and what is this book about well you see there are no hard copies of the book right now it's actually my best selling book it's got over a thousand pages which each one breaks down exactly how to cure science people think that sciences they think it's good I disagree I got a thousand pages a thousand pages plus of why it's not good not a lot of people especially scientists they don't really like it scientists may disagree nine out of ten scientists you know the tenth one is me of course but you know it's a pretty good book if we break that down to someone's a grade of someone's music ability nine out of ten scientists say that science is good but what does that really mean exactly you know those nine they just want they want your money you know I mean my book is free you know there are no down low links or physical or digital copies but it's absolutely free and go to Super Malaman on Twitter and DM me and I'll get you a copy maybe so this whole concept of free art and consuming music art for free how does that play into your interactions with the community it's kind of troubling for some people because for them art itself is kind of a means to an end to a way to achieve money but the way we believe for the free is that art is the result of you know being able to work and create something from everything that you've earned and done and so for us the actual music aspect of it is that's the part that we're trying to get out to people that's the free part you know all the other stuff the equipment and whatever you know you pay for that but the music itself the art is free it's supposed to be free oh so where do you get the money for the equipment nah you know I gotta all the other duck gods bless me on many occasions I'm also an ordained minister so you know right so I actually disagree with free art though right I don't think that you should give your art away for free at all but on the come up it's a little bit different like you have more free space to play around with what you want to charge and how you want to charge and where you want to charge but a lot of the times like it becomes overwhelming to just give out all these free ideas and free like I worked my whole life to be able to or like I've been working my whole life and I'll still be working my whole life to be able to do these things and like someone just like gets up and decides that they want to do something and that they want my assistance on it you're gonna have to pay for that I definitely agree that there's a sort of level of compensation that artists deserve but with the things that we create it's again a blurry line between are we being compensated for what we're doing or just sort of donated money I see a lot of live performances that's a service that's an act that should be paid for as our physical albums that can be there's like a definite purchase that's going on but the art itself is a vessel for self exploration and that's a lot of ideas going through both the artist and the consumer's mind and that is like necessary I think for people to go out and see like actual art and like be changed within themselves from it too and allow it to affect them in their own subjective and personal way if it's like for a homie or something I would definitely do free stuff I don't if my friends are like oh let's make music I'm not like alright give me my name like but if it's like somebody I haven't really met before they're just like specifically approaching me to give away what I can offer then I'm like alright that's where it's gonna like like cross the line you don't go up to a the titty no that's disrespect the cow will kick you you have to ask the cow you gotta ask the cow and a lot of the time people do not ask the cow they assume that the cow won't understand them and a lot of the time you just need to ask all you gotta do cows like have my milk never know the process of giving out this milk I find it very therapeutic for both artists and consumers so what things do you use your music to cope with or cope for like musical sub-tweet musical dish track well you know every time I get a new uh twitter crush you know I'll just start writing love songs you know and it helps me not sliding the DMs you know right away I kinda take a step back deliverance and then once you're done writing all those love songs about any sliding girls you can either slide in the DMs or take a look at the work that you just made and publicize it oh yeah it's a win-win directly to them it's always a win-win like if they don't like you you've still created this piece of art and it's out there get to use them as a muse real quick you know everybody wins except for her sometimes sometimes what about you wait what was the question again I got lost in that tangent about your twitter crush think about my twitter crush twitter crush veganism my twitter crush is veganism and tell me about that well this is a photo of turmeric juice it's beautiful it was spilled on the ground it looks like a minion died it looks like a minion died but it's actually veganism live and in effect it's beautiful I'm inspired I wanna eat a potato right now well veganism something that I've been getting into for the last three years I'm pretty prolific in the vegan community I have a song called level 5 vegan very famous for it but it's important to me that you don't cause any harm that you don't have to I feel like not eating meat was like the easiest thing that I had to to add to that that movement I feel like it makes so much sense or it does make so much sense but you're just like why would I eat meat if I know all of these things already yeah exactly it's like that's the biggest thing you know I'm going to U.H. right now for nutrition because I feel like the biggest thing that stops people from making the choice is that they don't know they don't realize they're like oh isn't there a protein deficiency it's like nah bro you probably eat three times more protein than you already actually need nuts more nuts than you can imagine almonds walnuts peanuts pumpkin seed acorns I keep both in my pocket all the time all the time pumpkin seeds exactly but as a vegan do you feel like particularly at this moment when rat lung disease is having a sort of outbreak do you feel that you're being targeted more than usual oh yeah absolutely you know there was there was a weird spinach in my spinach today and I knew like right off the back like this is an attempt by the dairy industry to assassinate me do you think it was planted on you absolutely absolutely you know and have you noticed before any other incidents of incidents of meat eaters trying to plant certain unhealthy vegetables on you all the time all the time questionable broccoli questionable onions there's an onion on top of the fridge right now that looks horrible I don't know who put it there I think we need to go get it probably Vinny but no I'm actually like right now I'm really concerned about the onion and it seems like we're running out of time for the show so okay we gotta get that onion