 So what drew you to the industry and then to Hellman? Sure. So yes, I did start as an intern here at Hellman in 1997. What drew me to the industry was actually my dad. My dad, I grew up going to my father's projects and he built high rises for a living. So the construction industry and engineering were always something that captivated me and you know, as a young kid going into these buildings and seeing them being constructed 60 stories in the air, 70 stories in the air, you know, it was something that I just, you know, I felt like I wanted to be a part of that. So I actually actually went to school to get my structural engineering degree and when I was in school, 93, 94, started to see a shift into mobile. There was a lot of, a lot of telecommunication businesses were growing and thriving. They started to really explore wireless communications and that sort of thing and it just intrigued me. So I made a decision to shift from structural engineering to electrical engineering and I concentrated in communication systems and in my senior year, I was working with my dad on my days off from school and my father, the superintendent, that worked with my father. He would, I would work 50% of the day, half the day with my dad in, as a laborer, physically working and the other 50% of my dad working the office with the superintendent. Now the superintendent knew that I was in school, you know, getting my engineering degree and had a brother-in-law that worked at an electrical contract and company and was looking for internal help, you know, young engineers to start in the organization. So I was offered an opportunity to come and interview with them and the person was Steven Lazaro, the owner of Hellman Electric. So at that time he was a project manager at Hellman Electric and I interviewed with him. I got the internship and I guess the rest is kind of history.