 Thank you for staying with us. There is still plus politician on TV Afrika. My name is Nyam Ghul at Gaji. In this segment of people's democratic party on Thursday suspended tema gavno arぁ Deliciouskitu. Ayudheli F aggressihi, former president of the Senate Pyeshanyim. Professor Denise Atchaver aslamaliu Yes, that's the name. Ushbenshima cannota, wo fermentuturi. What happened yesterday was happened after an extensive review of the affairs of the party that was passed to the provisions of the PDP Constitution as amended in 2017. The PDP also referred the Governor of Bangu Awway State, Samuel-том, to the National Disciplinary Committee, over his reported involvement in anti-party activities. This was disclosed in a statement signed by the National Publers' Secretary Dekwwukwuku lengisha. Fama gavna wa Kiti state, Ayodele Fioshe had earlier blamed stakeholders and politicians for a majority of the problems facing the country currently. Fioshe disclosed that there was a lot wrong with Nigeria adding that nothing had changed in the country since 1979. We also remember that Samuel O'Tom was part of the G5 that were not in terms, so to speak, with the presidential candidate of the People's Democratic Party, Atikwa Bubaka, and especially the chairman of the party, Yocha Ayu, who asked to step down because of the zoning or internal arrangements in the PDP about zoning the major positions in the party. Well joining us to discuss these is Tywo Olakwade, a political analyst and public affairs commentator. I'm just adding that now. Thank you very much Olakwade for joining us. Thank you so much for having me on the show. Yeah, your credentials are very long so I was just stumbling on what to say. Right now we've just heard that news that the governor of Osho state went to the appeal court after he was sacked by the tribunal, elections tribunal. He went to the appeal court and he has had victory. Let's begin from there. What are your thoughts of what has happened right now? Well, the ruling today of the court of appeal, the election tribunal regarding the petition filed by former governor of Osho state against the elected governor of the state, Senator Adelike. Some people saw it coming because if you remember Governor Adimola Adelike is not new to this environment. He was at the point at the senate for four years and he also contested against Governor Uwega Oetola in 2019. But the 2019 election eventually was Oetola that was declared winner. Adimola Adelike was emphatic about the fact that his victory was stolen from him at that 2019 election and they had another opportunity for two of them to meet again as a lady contestant in that election that took place I think around July 19 or 20 there about 2022 and the result came out. It was not in favor of Governor Uwega Oetola and under the law you have the right to go to the court of appeal The election position tribunal in which the governor then decided to appeal the ruling and today it was a judgment given by the tribunal in which the election was afound by the election position tribunal but I believe this is not going to be the last to be head of this case so lastly has the opportunity to go for that to the supreme court if it so wish to also contest the judgment that we had to be and if you recall again the case was that of overvoting. One of the prayers by former governor of Oetola was that there was too much of overvoting in so many polling units during that and was praying to the before the tribunal that those areas should be cancelled and then it should be declared the validly elected governor of the states and that the survey of the town given to Senator Delike should be taken back from him and given to him. And you know the case of Bebas one good thing about this 2023 general election is the fact that in any polling unit where we have the number of voters higher than the number of accredited voters. What I'm trying to say is let's say for instance we have 100 number of people as registered voters in the world and eventually we had like 101 or even 102 people who have voted in that same unit. What the law says is that that election is going to be nullified, it's going to be cancelled. So governor Oetola on that premise approached the courts saying that there are instances of overvoting and I can't remember really how many polling units but it was so large and for that reason by his own calculation it deducted the number of areas he believed there were overvoting and he believed that he won that election but today we have seen a judgment from the courts. The next phase for governor Oetola to do is to further ventilate his opinion, his belief at the supreme courts and that will be the final cut of habitat in any case in the country. So we are expecting that if former governor Oetola is not convinced by today's judgment he still has the right to take his case to the APS spot in the land which is the supreme court. Are you worried? The election was held in June you said and this is March. This is when we are having this judgment from the appeal court and all that. This is the same thing that led to this kind of staggered elections in the first place. We have in Anambra, we have in Imo, we have in Oshun, we have in Ekiti and all those places. So the time between an election and when the matters concerning election are rounded off. Do they give, does it give you any worry that it is too long or do you think it's just good enough? Well, the way our electoral process is being conducted particularly the way our politicians also react when it comes to the outcome of election. We see cases of some people that they know within themselves that they cannot win election but so long that they have emerged candidate of their political parties and when election is conducted and results declared you see them saying that no, I won the election, I was robbed, I was rigged out. Just like we used to say when we were in secondary school or even at the university level you will say, okay I remember doing jam, you will say jam gave me chozo scum. Whereas it was the outcome of your performance that jam meant and gave you your scum but you never admit that your performance was exactly the outcome of the result that you got at that examination. Students used to say, they gave me so much, they gave me so much, shine away from the truth that under performance at that examination is the reason why you scored so low or you failed in that particular paper. So what I'm trying to say is that you see some of our politicians it's quite unfortunate that some people cannot accept defeat in good faith is a contest and in every contest there must be a winner. I don't like to say there will also be a loser. I like to use the word there must be a winner and there must be a runner up. It has in the second position, third position and fourth position as the case may be. So reason why we have had staggered elections, these 2020 general elections we had governorship election contested or conducted rather in 2080s why 80s we have had staggered election in those days like directly mentioned Kogi, Edo, Bayesa, Oshun, Ondo, Ekiti, Imu. So it will be very difficult for us to have a kind of election where we have governorship election conducted in 36 states of deflagration because of the nature of our politicians not being factor enough to accept defeat in good faith and that's the reason why we are having this kind of scenario but the beauty of democracy is that when you have such a contest and you believe that you have been cheated that doesn't mean that we have some cases that are genuine cases in this election that you too believe that oh, but it's also candidate, it's also political party. Okay, we've been talking with Taiwo Olapadeh on the politics and we'll just take a very short break and when we return we'll wrap up with what is happening in PDP. Stay with us. Hello, welcome back. We've been talking with Taiwo Olapadeh, a public affairs analyst and we're looking at the elections especially what is happening in PDP. So Taiwo, we're talking about the electoral process and investigations and how long it takes but right now, so that we don't lose sight of what we actually want to talk about this drama that is happening in the PDP some have said that this is the beginning of the end of that party do you also think that? I'm talking about the suspension of very, very big names in the party that include a former governor of Akiti state who is Ayodele Faiyoshi also a former senate president, Anyim Payos Anyim and then they are calling on the governor of Benway state sitting governor of Benway state, Samuel Otom to face disciplinary committee over what they call anti-party activities what does that tell you of the PDP? Are you also of the school of thought that PDP is dying? For me, I think the decision taken by the party that I was guiding the conduct of political parties in the country just like every other institution or establishment and this... Well, we lost Taiwo's audio again and even his visuals but this is plus politics and we were concerned about what is happening in the PDP we know what happened before the election what problems they had and they kept telling us that they were solving the problems and a lot of people have attributed they are showing in this last election to those problems that emanated that made some governors to form what they called the G5 and all that and right now it is still happening and they are saying suspension on the one hand some people are saying they have no right to suspend whoever they have suspended and the other ones are saying they have to follow the rules and following the rules was the same thing that brought them to where they were before the elections and all that but we are yet to see what the future holds for a party as big as PDP Anyway, that's how we're going to wrap up today but before we go we'll leave you with the highlights of the week today is Friday, happy weekend my name is Nyamgul Agaji To ensure that we go back to where we have proud to this election we go back to where we have my best friends are Igbo people my mentors are Ausas my people I worship with every time they are Ausas and they are Muslims so what do I care where you come from what matters to me is that you are my brother and the brother would as we fought since the year 1900 when Nigeria came into existence and people have paid the price for this independence they have paid the price so if we have some desperate politicians we have some insane human beings who simply believe that what they now need to do is to be controlling the system and destroying what we have we need to be careful we need to be very very careful because we cannot allow a civil war to start we cannot also allow a capital flight from this Lagos Lagos is called Spobolita we don't want to go into this no man's land no man's house it belongs to us as indigenous of the state but the prosperity that Lagos has is because other people have called from other states to invest in the state they have come and the foreigners that are here Nigeria that generations of them have not been home they have found northern Nigeria to be their home I have friends my best friends are Lebanese now I sit back now I start doing some spiritual what do you call the distillation when I want to talk to you I want to find Ayuribu and their Igbo when I want to speak to you we shouldn't do that to our country because some people have shed their blood for our independence I want to speak about the election for the social democratic party for me when I went into this election it was not winning at all costs and if you listen to me everywhere I spoke I continuously emphasized this it's not winning at all costs I was going to contest the election to define the integrity of my race and I think I succeeded I came here I went everywhere saying things that I can feel that I change it so the value was abandoned I passed there 2 weeks ago they have started building the market so somebody is listening to me I've been speaking about this they are real way line team and I've heard that it's going to be done before May 29 somebody is listening to me I spoke about Tawoya government is listening to me so for me it's victory because to remove an increment will not be the easiest person for me to do so what I wanted to do was to test waters and remember even in our party there were malls there we had to contend with different misinformation by the APC there was a dead again there was a Kuleyut man that stepped down for Baba Jideso Wulu it was everywhere and nobody has shown me proof of where I sat down with anybody to step down there was also this man when the election was over he says he is the acting chairman and every paper carried this man seeing that SDP is congratulating Baba Jideso Wulu now what they succeeded even our House of Assembly members they planted malls there there is no transparency there is no accountability the people did not see that fear and fear it was catarized by violence talk grief, intimidation you can see what happened clearly some people came up openly to test some people who don't come and vote if they are not voting for a particular candidate if they are democracy democracy by choice you have to come and vote I am one of those who believe that which of that will happen God bless Wulu who will still win the election he will still win the election because the fifth election is different from this election that fifth election it was of this influence not the candidate in leadership no, not the people in leadership and the people in this election they because of the fear some people are telling to intimidation attack and violence which is what we see in reports in so many other states at the same violence threat intimidation and that's what we see so as far as I'm concerned this particular election that was conducted by this INAI I think I am embarrassed I am disappointed I am feeling I am feeling that we have wasted all our money I want to advocate for a solution because this conversation makes no meaning if we don't recommend ways for I am using this opportunity to call on every agript person and every successful person that whoever won the elections please do not blame for Latino do not blame people before losing blame the institutions and those giving responsibility to the people now they are pointing in a direction to the judiciary we were here the certain governor build houses for the shareholders we are here some have been made live ventures without thinking courts so this is when the marathon begins we almost get interested in the cases the day of courts sitting we all go to courts so that they know and they feel you they feel like a bad body they will spell it they will see the pressure