 David asked a question quick question about exchange online plans as these both only allow access to email via Outlook web access or your preferred third-party email client if you log into the OS site Are any of the office web apps accessible to you such as Word web and Excel web? It seems Microsoft only mentions these as accessible when you move up to the 365 business basic or higher Yes, that's correct It entirely depends on what brand you've got Yeah, this is I know that you've been going back into the you know my my historical memory of SKUs I know when Microsoft started to move things into the cloud the exchange online Just as a standalone option There's a lot of people that went and purchased that that was their first foray into the cloud and so Microsoft offered those you don't hear much about those because usually when you go and you're searching for Exchange online you get that business essentials. What are they? What are the SKUs the? Microsoft 365 online business essentials, which is 799 user a month or whatever it is in your area and through your vendor, but I'll stay away from pricing, but Microsoft 365 business professional and Microsoft 365 with premium security bundle Which is like double the price So you have those but you do have the exchange online SKUs And looks have it the exchange online SKUs do not include any of the any of the desktop or otherwise apps Yeah, so as far as user behavior, they're a part of his question So if you have the exchange plan one exchange plan two That do not include office for the web What happens when you go and click on those things said if you do not have those licenses elsewhere Then You know you I would assume you'd hit some kind of error And they work basically says not available. Yeah But what you tends to happen again in my experience talking with people about this is that they have Those office 365 those web licenses through some other SKUs some other person or whatever that it will default to that Other login, I think in my case. It's the 365 family plan Right, which doesn't give you a business exchange. It gives you basically outlook dot com plus the Right big cell and word and PowerPoint and so forth Right, so there are SKUs or you buy office 365 without exchange and likewise Can you imagine it's a very disjointed experience if you're in one account or email a separate account for the The desktop based applications and then you go to do something like Save to one drive like where's that going? Does that get disconnected? To those out of the box features that you see in modern outlook where it says, you know Like save to one drive or or where you're going to do an attachment and it prompts you to Convert it to a share link from your one drive like makes me wonder how How that experience is for the users knowing that they're not going to have those back-end areas so it's It seems very like a very odd experience. I can't wrap my head around the modern-day use case for this We're so used to having platforms whether it's Google and G Suite or Microsoft and Microsoft 365 like emails core to all of those things but so is the storage and Those two features unlock all the other apps and services that come with both of those platforms. So David's questions very specific. So I'm very curious what the the use cases for that in in the current environment where most people are working I'm kind of curious about the or your favorite third-party client because the one experience that I've had basically it's either any one or any two I forget which because it was a couple of years ago, but Basically, not only did you not get the office Desktop apps you didn't you weren't allowed to do If you happen to have outlook, you couldn't attach it. It would just basically say you can't do that Mm-hmm So third-party mail client being what the em client or Thunderbird or one of those No idea what what what the response would be to that? Yeah, I imagine they're on a Linux client They just want the email service without the hassle of maintaining their email stuff and I guess in that case Sure, you've got your own storage in your own apps for that but Anyway, most of the Microsoft services are geared towards mainstream consumption For better or worse Would it but what if you're logging in to OWA you're accessing that account on your exchange only Would you have to would you be able to click on and use the other apps? Or would it look at that as a separate login as a separate product and so that it not work So it wouldn't be a seamless experience with because essentially you're you're you're trying to log in to To those tools via a non licensed Profile it would help a lot to know what skew he's got it really would Do you know what I mean norm? You're making a face there, but you know, basically you had two different licenses So I'm accessing OWA With this license it's not going to let me log in to office 365 stuff Which is a different completely different profile a license the profile is a don't the line of delineation between those licenses So it's if you had two separate browser sessions sure But I don't see how it's happening those things where you know and whether Microsoft is You know, there's some weird backwards Compatibility stuff sometimes that stuff works it just it figures it out It understands what you're trying to do and makes the connection and other times It it doesn't so you know, this is one of those things where you just have to troubleshoot and Yeah, play around with it understand. Hey, what what this user experience is going to be like, but yep Reading the question again, it does sound like that's what they're trying to do is control the user experience Maybe it's a governance initiative But nonetheless, there we are