 Welcome back to Up In Addams. I'm Brandon Marshall and I'm taking over this show because Kay was almost late and there's a penalty for that in football. It's a penalty for that in football. Your shoes are slow! I need to say I am an athlete in the house. I almost was late today. Oh my goodness. I thought you were going to come in on Zoom. What are you doing in LA? I want to take care of you. So we came out. We always come to LA, right, and visit cool people. So we sat down with Reggie Bush and a few others. How is Reggie? He's phenomenal. I love him. And he opened up. What do you mean? He opened up. Reggie's chill. Yeah. He's not Hollywood. He just lives in Hollywood like you so don't get Hollywood on me. I just got Hollywood. But he's like real chill. Reggie's always been that guy in the locker. I played with the Dolphins to see Reggie like open up was pretty cool. How do you get people to open up on I Am Athlete? Every time somebody comes on you see a bit of a different side of them. What's your strategy for that? I think first you slide in the DMs. So you're like, yo, Reggie, can you come on the show? Yeah. They respond. Because it starts there. You set the tempo in the DM. Like what kind of energy are you on? Okay. Right? And so when they sit down with us, if I'm being honest, I think there is a skill in the art to what you do. Mm-hmm. But where's this locker room? We're literally just capturing the conversations that we have in the locker room, right? I think people want to sit down with, you know, us. You, me, the Pat McAfee's of the world. Yeah. You know, people want to be more unapologetic and more real. Pat McAfee's of the world. I love it. Seriously. Like nobody want to go into these stuffy studios anymore with people with suits on. They want to sit down with you. It's, I mean, you're not wrong. And you're here and you are always honest. So you don't have to ever preface anything by saying, if I'm being honest, because you always are. And I want to get into a couple of storylines around the league. But first, here's a game tonight. Right. We're kicking off week three, right? Who's playing? There's any thoughts? Oh, Brown stillers. The stillers wins this game. The stillers win. With Mitch Wisterbisky, are they calling for pick it mid game? Well, it's Coach Tomlin. Coach Tomlin, he doesn't get rattled. He's a real leader, right? So any other coach, maybe there's three coaches in the league that stay true to their game plan. Yeah. Right? Coach isn't going to listen to the noise. He doesn't care. He's a true leader. He's going to stick with Mitch. That was his guy. You know, maybe, you know, sometime this year we see Kenny, but Coach Tomlin's going to stick with Mitch. Why? Because he's more seasoned. I think they lose this game. Kenny pick it starting next week. Well, first, they're not going to lose this game. They're not going to lose this game. Let's start there. Okay. Well, the other side, the Browns, they had a players-only meeting already. Already? That's not good. After two weeks. Week two, they had a players-only meeting. Now, I kind of know what that means, but talk to me about it. Have you ever been to one? It means nothing. It means nothing. You know how many times I called a players-only meeting? No, I want to know. And then all the guys are sitting there, like, oh, what does he have to say? Or you had other guys, you know, in the front talking. And it's just like, it goes in one ear and out the other. At the end of the day, just do your job, right? Like, for us to come together and have to push each other to practice and do those things, what the hell are you going to fail for? Yeah. Right? Like, just do your job. So if you're in week two and you're having a players-only meeting, that's a problem. You've got some leaders there. Like, you've got Miles Garrett there. He's really honest about being frustrated with his team, too. When he speaks, you'd think it'd go a long way. Okay. So let's say you're the starting defensive back. Yeah. Right? Nowadays, starting defensive backs, you're getting $15, $20 million a year. Yeah. I need to motivate you, Kay? No. Do I need to motivate Kay? Make it $20 million a year? That's the problem. Absolutely not. Yeah, that's not good. That's the problem. What we want is, you know, in those meetings, like, look, guys, we're not executing. We're not doing our job. But when we're talking about effort, we're talking about want to, that's a problem. That's a cultural challenge, right? We should only be talking about production. Sorry, but we're talking about a locker room that has the coach of the year, Kevin Stefanski. So what does it say about the coach to call a player's only meeting? Well, nothing at all. I mean, you know, if you... So you're saying culture is the coach, too, right? Correct. But, you know, as a coach and an organization, you do love this stuff, right? The player's taking control of the locker room. That's when you really have a good team. My thing is we shouldn't be talking about culture. We shouldn't be talking about effort, right? I just want you to understand, like, look, it's covered three. I'm supposed to be in the curl flat, right? This one I messed up because I took the cheese. They ran a five-yard route in front of me. So I jumped that. Now they put an in route behind me. I was supposed to be there. I know this. We talked about it all week. So I just want to reinforce the X's and O's, the execution part of the game. The accountability. I don't want to be talking about... I don't want to talk about... Is this guy showing up on time, right? I don't want to talk about why isn't he running to the ball, Lofen? It's either you got it or you don't. If you're having those conversations, I think you're out of the conversation around, you know, good team or great team or contenders. But Steelers are winning in your opinion because of their coach. Because of Tomlin. It starts there. It's a trickle-down effect. When he walks into the room, Coach Tomlin is the same person or in the building. He's the same person every single day, right? And he doesn't care who you are, right? He's going to just hold you accountable and he's going to push you to your greatness. That's the amazing thing about Coach Tomlin. And he doesn't care what's happening. There's always a way for him to solution. That's what makes him great is his leadership. Let's keep the head coach going here on the show. Because on I Am Athlete, you had a vibrant conversation about Pete Carroll celebrating and saying outwardly that winning over Russell Wilson was rewarding. What did you make of that? And you have to listen to him on I Am Athlete because it was incredible. Well, first, I like Coach Pete Carroll. I study Coach Carroll, right? Two guys I study in the NFL when it comes to leadership. Totally different styles. Bill Belichick and Coach Pete Carroll. Bill Belichick, walk in this building, do your job. I don't care about all the other stuff, right? Pete Carroll, raw, raw guy. You want to be there. The energy's at an all-time high every single day. My first time interacting, well, my second time interacting with Coach and free agency, when I left the Miami Dolphins, and I left the Denver Bronx to go to Miami Dolphins in 2011, Seattle Seahawks offered me way more money and they wanted me to come play. This was Coach Pete Carroll's first off-season free agency, right? And he wanted me to come in. And it was awesome. He took me to a Snoop Dogg concert, so we had this bond that started from back then. Who went to the Snoop Dogg concert? Coach Carroll, no. You and him? Just the two of you? No, no. There's a couple other people around, too. It was awesome. So anyways, fast forward to years later, Coach Carroll brings me at the tail end of my career, and we're sitting this meeting and we're talking about the derail revises of the world. We're talking about all these amazing corners. Like, Brandon, it seems like you prepare a little bit different, a little bit more when it comes to these guys. Like, Coach, I do. I have a notebook on derail revies. Like, if I'm playing against derail revies, I may start my prep work three, four weeks out because I got to get ahead. Because this dude, if I don't come to play, I won't catch a ball on him. He's like, well, no. You have to approach every single game the same. That's the wrong attitude. That's the wrong mentality. Let me show you what greatness is. Every single day, be the same person. So I'm saying all of that because you're playing against Russell Wilson. Everything you preach and everything you stand on every single day. It wasn't the same. It's like you just totally contradicted yourself. You got a quarterback that led you to two Super Bowls, and now there's obviously other people in the organization. But you got a quarterback that was like this with you. He was a phenomenal leader, not only in the locker room, but also in the community. And now he leaves. He's gone for freaking three months. And this is how you treat him. This is how you act. What about the relationships? And then you got Richard Sherman, and you have other guys that KJ Wright. I played with KJ Wright, love KJ Wright. And they go on their podcast, and they talk about their teammate that way. That just didn't sit well with me. Those are some of those things I think it stays in house. They know their challenges. They know their problems. Some things just stay in the locker room, and I think that was one of them. Why do you think Richard Sherman has such an issue with Russell Wilson? Well, I don't think it's just Richard Sherman. I think it's always been defense versus offense, right? We're talking about, you know, that legion of boom. Yeah. It's top five defenses of all time. And is it that they didn't get the credit for what they did or that Pete Carroll didn't help them as much as he could? Well, first off, when it comes to the quarterback position, every quarterback is coddled, right? Every quarterback gets special privileges. You're saying that. It is. We know this, right? It's special privileges. So when you look at what Richard Sherman is saying, it's basically like we're coming out here, we're busting our butts, and then when we get in these meetings, you may call us out, but then in turn, you know, Russell may throw a pick and you may not say something to him. So it was always this back and forth between Russ and defense. But at the end of the day... But together, they won a Super Bowl. They won a Super Bowl, right? Can we celebrate that? Declare victory. Right. They won a Super Bowl. Right. But everyone has their pain. He's such a polarizing character, but I see what you're saying. Like, you know, you should... Pete Carroll's philosophy as a coach is play every game the same way, even when you're in the Super Bowl. That's right. Even when you're deciding whether or not to put the ball marsh on Lynch's hand, keep it like this. And I think Lebelichek sort of feels the same way. It's every game, every all four quarters are the same, but this one meant a little more to him. You had stability in your organization. And it's the public in a sense that it's ugly. Yeah, but you had... You had stability in your organization for ten years. Yeah. That's something to celebrate. You had a guy, didn't get in any trouble. You had a guy that was just... He echoed what you were saying in your team meetings and in the locker room all over the place, all over the dangling city. Yeah. Right, come on. But you can say what you want now. And so can Richard Sherman, because he's no longer in that locker room. That's right. So you're saying that's a sacred space. It should be in-house. My... Until you're not in-house anymore and then you can sort of talk about it. My thing is this, right? If you go back and listen to what Coach Pete Carroll said, he was like, you guys figure it out. You know why this was special. And then you have guys out there, ex-players coming out saying, oh yeah, Coach was hot. Coach was saying all these other things. Yeah. We never seen Coach Carroll like this. So what are you saying, Coach? Why don't you come out and say what you said? Because you started this conversation. How do you really feel? Tell us. Right. Right, I just don't like that. Coach Carroll's a phenomenal leader. He's done a phenomenal job his entire career. Russell is a phenomenal leader, phenomenal quarterback. You guys did something special together. Keep that stuff in-house. And then there's the gifts flying around and the memes and all like Doug Waldo is getting involved and all that. Really? I mean there's a lot. I didn't see that. I don't know. It might be completely unrelated. It's getting messy. But people are connecting some of those things to each other. But I think your right to celebrate, declare victory. You know what, this is the last thing I'll say on this. Yeah. Okay, I played 13 years in the National Football League. I had 17 different quarterbacks. You know, the Seattle Seahawks and I walked in the building and there was, you know, you feel some of that, right? I'm like, you know, you're the alternative. You want to play with the guys I play with? This is Russell Wilson. We're talking about the most winningest cornerback- Jay Cutler out here catching strays. No, I love Jay. Thank you, Jay. Jay targets a hundred and eighty targets a year and I can't complain against our guy, Jay Cutler. Smoking Jay, I love you. I'm just kidding Jay. I love you. Come sit with us. I don't know if you have a room to be in. Culture-wise, get in the rock a lot-wise right now if you could play in one of them, which one would you pick? Oh, man. I'm with the Buffalo Bills. They seem like they have fun. I love playing with those type of quarterbacks, right? Like, they're on schedule but they also know how to make a play where it's like, hey, this play is broken down. Let's go. Love Josh Allen. What makes him special? His relatability. Right? Wow. His relatability. Talent-wise, all the traits. Right? Big arm. He's physical. High IQ. He's coachable. He's great there. Right? He separates himself from a lot of guys in the world when it comes to that. But a lot of those guys, right? Like, you look at Aaron Rodgers, right? Like, it took a lot of work for Aaron Rodgers to be sort of relatable. Right? Like, you understand like some guys, we had member Brett Farve. Brett Farve, when he played with the jets, he had his own office. Like, you know, they walk in a building. It's like, oh, that's our quarterback, right? Some of these guys, the Eli Manning's of the world, the Russell Wilson's of the world, you know, the Josh Allen's of the world. It's like, you're just a guy. You're just cool. He's sitting in a locker room, maybe playing ping pong with you. Right. You know? Some of these guys, like, I've got to go watch third down and short. 70% of the time, they're going zero. Yeah. I've got to go in the office. Like, no, bro, I've got to go to the guys. And that's important. Relatability matters. And you have, especially when you have, I mean, I just like how chill he's being with all this pressure. You brought up, so much pressure. You brought up the, you know, our podcast, right? And how we get those conversations, you know, how do we get those guys to open up that way? That's Josh Allen. Those conversations that we have on the show, Josh Allen will sit there for an hour and fit in. Some of those quarterbacks will come in and be like, oh, that's cool. Yeah. So that's what makes Josh Allen special. You mentioned Aaron Rogers. I mean, you're talking about things being in-house. Did you see what he said about Amari Rogers last week? This whole thing about how he's not, you know, where was he, how he was asked how he's fit in the offense. And he didn't, I don't think he wanted to lie. He's an honest person who's done a lot of work on himself to be open and vulnerable. And he's like, he's not involved. And that's all I have to say on that. Is that, like, like, like, again, the quarterbacks are special. Like, you know, you play with some of these quarterbacks, a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady walks in. It's like, it's almost like you're seeing a guy like, oh my goodness. So as a younger wide receiver or younger player, when your quarterback says something like that, it's almost as if, like, your dad is talking to you. Right? So you just like, he's right. He's always right. I just have to figure this thing out. You take on this, you take the responsibility and try to find a way to get off it, offense. Sometimes those public conversations push guys to their greatest potential. And you have to know that as the leader, and he's been the leader long enough, that he gets it. And he has to know if I say this publicly about this teammate, well, can this teammate handle it? Will he break? Some guys will break down. Some guys, it will actually actually push them to greatness. That pushed me to greatness. Here in J. Cutler, he's been talking, but Jay, come on. I would love that. Come on, up in Adams. I tried to get Jay. Jay's very, Jay's like chasing a girl, like a guy or girl like on Instagram doesn't want to connect. Jay's weird, let's just say. He's weird. Jay, you're weird, but we love you. We love you. We love you. You know, wide receivers aren't too bad. We talked a lot of quarterbacks. We'll bring you back at the beginning of next segment, but I wanted to ask you a couple things here. Are your boy a poor game that wasn't your expectation? How did you talk your way out of that? Like, you know, what would you say to Justin Jefferson after that game? Nothing. Right. Cause like, you know, sometimes we see some of these guys, whether it's Justin Jefferson or DK Metcalf, Atari kill. We put them on this pedestal and it's like, Oh my goodness, they are the best in the world. And they dominate every single matchup. That is not true. Justin Jefferson never had a bad practice or never had a bad game or never had a DB get to him. And then also as a ride received from being honest, you know, we're going to watch film and be like, well, and these are the things that a lot of, you know, casual fans may not see or understand even people around the league because they're not watching the game. They're not watching all 70 snaps. It's like, well, Slay actually had help on this one or Slay was able to play off anything, you know, short or intermediate, right? So there's a lot of times these star, Wyatt receivers, they're not playing against one person. They're playing against two or three. They're playing against a scheme. They tried doing that again, you know, but it didn't work week one. I thought, I was surprised Darius locked him up. I just, I was, and I apologize to Darius and I'm glad he's celebrating all week for that. Yeah, sometimes it's the quarterback. Sometimes it may be the play caller. The play caller could be off. I don't think Justin Jefferson is losing any sleep. I think what it happens is you actually, this is why he's great because what he'll do is use this for fuel and dominate the next four or five games. Mike Evans, one game suspension fair. Yes, because, and Mike is going to kill me. Oh boy. It's like, like they've been doing this for how many years, right? When I saw this, like it's not a big deal. But I was like, oh, I can see why the NFL may suspend him because it's like, all right bro, like you guys fight every single year. Y'all play twice a year. Like we're tired of seeing this. So I think it's more of the NFL making a statement saying, y'all get y'all stuff together. Y'all can duke it out in between the whistle, but all the extra stuff, y'all need to stop that. I mean, Fitzpatrick was your guy. You, if somebody came at Ryan, like what happened with Brady out there, what would you do? Listen, to see people, I was like, B Morris, man, he was out there. He's so aggressive. He's so like, I know, but people, people always like, man, you know, Brandon, how would he react? It's like, I never got a personal foul, penalty. I got one. You know, I always play within the rules because I was playing the long game. I wouldn't have fought it, but if he'd have put, if they put their hands on Fitsie, he didn't put his hands on Fitsie. If he puts his hands on Fitsie. Okay. Oh, I'm jumping in there. You're jumping in there. Me and Eric Decker held out for Fitzpatrick. It was a legendary, one of the most legendary holdouts. What happened? Talk to me. They wouldn't pay, the Jets wouldn't pay Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yeah. After that magical year that we had, and Eric Decker and I, Coach Bowles was our head coach. We said, we're going to hold out as well. What is it about Fitzpatrick? And we'll, of course, see him on Amazon tonight, ahead of the Steelers and the Browns, but you're saying, is it the relatability? It's the beard. That's the thing. It's the beard. Is Jimmy G a relatable quarterback? Jimmy G. Jimmy G? He is. Is he in that category? Is that why people rally around him? Those players at locker room? You saw it, right? Yeah. You know, as soon as he got in, I don't know if it was after his first touchdown or whatnot, how the guys rallied and just bouncing and pushing him and loving on him. It's because he's one of the guys. He's relatable. I talked to DePors Buckner. We'll have that interview tomorrow. He was on the team that went to the Super Bowl and Jimmy, he says he has a switch and he just turns it and he becomes this leader and this sort of general out there. And I had never heard that about Jimmy G. Brandon, thank you for being here. This is awesome. Do you want to stay after the break for a second? If you want me to, look at this set. Look at this. I have to get you because this game is tonight.