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And yes, I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm good. Everything is well with me. There's no problems going on with me. I actually saw and watched a video. Actually, I just came across my feet. And it really concerned me. So I reached out to the gentleman who I have waiting to bring on momentarily and wanted to invite him onto the live to have a conversation. I do have the video in queue. So what I'm going to do once we have the conversation started, I'm going to play his video also to ask him some questions. And he'll be able to ask me questions. We're going to have a dialogue. It will not be any type of negative, much slinging. There's not going to be any character bashing or anything like that. I just want to have a conversation with this gentleman and hopefully let the word of God, which is the final authority for the believer, to stand on his own two feet. So, well, any further do we bring my guest on? Jerry, welcome to the live. My brother, thank you for joining. All right. Glad to be here. I hate I had to end up here this way. You know, but it is what it is. Cool. So I appreciate it. So thank you for coming on. So let's basically get this, you know, this conversation started. Let me just ask you, number one, the video that you put up this morning, or was it this afternoon or what? It was this morning. This morning, okay. And it was last night. Okay. And you titled it as I mentioned here. Jesus wasn't sinless. That was the title of your video. Am I correct? Can you read the title for me? Look at it and read it. You said... Oh, I'm sorry. It says... Yeah, I don't know yet. Because I had titled it Jesus was sin. It says, it's titled, why is it impossible to know if Jesus was actually sinless? Why is it possible to know that Jesus was actually sinless? That is the title of your video. So let me just ask you, somebody said, hearing a bit of an echo. Let me see if that is on my end or not. And you only have one device on you, Jerry? One device. All right. Everything should be fine. I'm not sure if anybody else is hearing the echo or not, but let's see. Make sure everybody is good. All right. Testing one, two, three. Make sure everybody can hear right here. It's okay. Slave of Christ was saying that there was an echo. Is there anyone else hearing the echo? Everybody else is saying they're fine. So maybe just maybe a slight error on somebody's device. But anyway, so yeah. So give us some background, Jerry, on the reason why you made that video and your concerns or questions regarding Jesus being sinless or not, or why you said it is impossible for us to know that. How many years is missing from Jesus' life in the Bible? Is that a question you're asking me? How many years is missing? Why do you say it's missing? Do you have it in the Bible? The scriptures make it clear what we have for Jesus' life is enough that for us to know what he did. What scripture says there? You have John chapter 20, verse 30 and 31. You have also John chapter 21. It says it's other things that he did that's not recorded correct? That's right. So you don't have it all? We have enough. You just said that we have it all correct? We have enough, which is all we need. Do you have the 18 years of his life? Don't have to have that. We have 33 years of what Jesus did on this earth. That's what we have. And that's enough. And so the question I'm asking you is what does that matter other than what the Word of God has declared who Jesus is? Do you deny that he says who he says he is? The Bible says Jesus was tempted in every way, correct? Yet without sin. Yet without sin. Yet without sin. But do we have every temptation that Jesus ever faced in scripture? We don't have to have every temptation. The temptations that we have is what the Word of God records. And that's all we need. Okay, how can you know if he's... Because the writer of Hebrews says that he was tempted in all points as we were yet without sin. The question that I'm asking you, Jerry, is this. Does the Bible say that? Yes or no? Who wrote Hebrews? A writer wrote it. You don't know who wrote Hebrews? No, we don't have to know who wrote it. We know that the Word of God is inspired. This guy breathes. Stay off new stuffs. Come on, bro. You don't even know. So you believe that Jesus was sinless. You don't know if he wouldn't have not. Because the Word of God says he is. The Word of God says he is, Jerry. How do we know it's true? Because the Word of God says it's true. How do I know what you're saying is true? Come on, bro. I'm not making a claim. You're making a claim that... No, no. I know the Word of God made the claim. So my question to you is you're doubting the authority of the Scriptures, right? No. Taco, I just said that it's impossible to know because we don't have... It's not impossible to know. It's not impossible to know. The Word of God says we know what we have to know about Jesus. So you're trusting what me and wrote? I'm trusting what the Word of God, who, holy men, who God inspired wrote. Holy men. Yes, 2 Peter 1. 2 Peter 1 verse 20 to 21. You want to read your Bible? I know where you're going. You know I know where you're going. Open your Bible and read it. Back up a little bit. You're too close into the camera. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I know. I got you. But what did Jesus tell... Did Peter tell Jesus that he was... Hold on. Let's go through your video first. So that way people can get a better understanding of what you're talking about. Let's do that. Okay? Let's go through your video. And then that way people can get a gist on what you're claiming. Who Jesus says he is and who he is not. No, no. What you're claiming. No, no, no. I'm going by your video, Jerry. I'm going by your video. Your video. Not mine. Everybody know what I'm going to do. I'm not claiming that he was perfect. You made claims, Jerry, about the Bible, about who Jesus is. You doubted his godliness. You doubted his deity. You doubted everything that the Bible says who Jesus is. You doubted it. Right. Okay, so then the question now is, we're going to play your video and then have you to respond to it biblically. And if you can, then you're going to have to repent for what you said. No, no, no, no. I'm not defending the Bible. We know you're not defending it. We know you're not defending it. That's pretty clear. That's pretty clear. You're not defending it. That's not the point. The point I'm making with you is that you're making claims. You're making claims about the Word of God and you can't back it. So we're going to play the video. Now, we're going to play the video. And then I'll let you respond. All right, here we go. Right. It's impossible to know if Jesus was perfect. First, I'm going to start off with this. The Bible says that Jesus knew. He knew what was in. He knew people's thoughts. Right. Jesus said he, the Bible says that Jesus knew what was in people's head. He knew their thoughts. Right. But the issue is that nobody knew. Nobody was living in Jesus' head because the Bible says that every foolish thought is sin. Jesus says if you hate your brother in your heart, you commit. You commit murder. So nobody know every, nobody know what Jesus thought, whether he sinned in his thoughts. There's no way to know that. What was in his head? We think 3,000 thoughts a day. 30,000 thoughts. Right. You can sin in your head and nobody never know it. It's 18 years of Jesus' life missing. Nobody was with him at all times to document every temptation, everything that he did. 18 years missing. Right. We don't know what happened. We don't have a record of what he did. Most of us can't go a day or a week or a month. That's the only year, one year without committing a sin. So it's impossible to know that's just logically whether he sinned or not. It's just no way to know that we being honest with ourselves. People don't want to admit that. It's a scary thought, but it's an honest thought. All right. So I wanted to give you the opportunity to respond to that. And then I'll provide the scriptures in my response to that. And I want to add some more scriptures to that. I mean, if you'll give me opportunity to... Go right ahead. Prove from the Bible that Jesus basically was not perfect. So why would you use a reference to prove something that's not true? Because I'm proving the inconsistency that's in this book. The inconsistency of the Bible? Right. Okay. What you just asked me to respond to? Give me the opportunity to respond. I mean, I'm just basically saying that it's no way to know. That's the key word. You believe. You call yourself a believer. Demons are also called believers. No, they're not. Demons are not called believers. Can demons believe? They don't have saving faith. They don't believe like Christians do. What Bible? What scripture say that? I'm sorry? What scripture say that? What do you find in scripture that Jesus Christ died for demons? He died for a sheep. Well, hell wasn't created for us. It wasn't created for us either, but some people are going there, correct? Hell was created for the devil and his angels for those who reject Christ. They don't say that. First, that's the law in chapter one. Second, that's the law in chapter one. Teaches that as well, too. Revelation chapter 21 teaches that as well, too. Revelation 20 teaches that as well, too. Let's get back to... Yeah, we definitely need to get back to it. Because you're making straw man and you have not made one case. So let me just go to my scripture since you don't have yours yet. What scripture asked you to provide? I'm sorry? What you asked me to provide a scripture for what? If you wanted to respond to what you said. You said you had other scriptures. I just said nobody can know whether Jesus was perfect or not. The word of God says he was perfect. The word of God said he was sinless. The word of God said he was sinless, Jerry. Hold up, bro. Give me the scripture where Jesus said explicitly that he was perfect. The word of God says that Jesus was perfect. Peter said he was perfect. Jesus meant in fact. I'm sorry? Give me red letters, bro. Red letters where Jesus... Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, stop. You know the Bible was not written in red letters, right? So wait, tell me this red letter stuff. Just give me what Jesus said. No, no, no, no, no, no. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, Jerry. Hold on, Jerry. You're on my life. You know the Bible was not written in red letters, right? I know that. So why are you talking about red letters? Give me what Jesus said. I just told you, I just told you. I just told you the word of God is authoritative. The word of God is God-inspired. God used men to write his word. So second Peter, first Peter chapter 2, verse 21. For you have been called for this purpose. Let me just go ahead and share the screen so my audience can read it. For you have been called for this purpose since Christ also suffered for you, leaving an example for you to follow in his steps. Who committed no sin, nor was any deceit found in his mouth. That's what the word of God says, Jerry. Who committed no sin, none. That means he's perfect. He's not just a man. He's the God-man. Thank you Corinthians chapter 5, verse 21. He made, hold on, brother, hold on. I'm using brother anthropomorphically. Yeah, I'm not using brother in the redemption sense for you. Second Corinthians chapter 5, verse 21. It says, he made him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that that's the purpose. We might become the righteousness of God in him. He was tempted in all ways yet without sin. That's the point. How do you know that? Because the Bible says that, Jerry. That's how I know it. How do you not know it? How do you not know it? See, you're the one that has the issue. Let me, hold up, hold up. Say, go, let me ask you this. Was Peter with Jesus every moment of his life? No, not every moment of his life. Well, how did he know when, how did he know that Jesus didn't sin and he was always perfect? Because the word of God says he didn't sin. And God's, and he's holy and he's perfect and he's righteous. And in him there is no sin. The question, the question for you is, because you're sounding like a fool, Psalm 14. You don't believe who God is. You don't believe God exists. We don't, we don't know who God is. That's my point. The Bible says we do know. We know him in the person of Jesus Christ. Hold up, bro. I'm still waiting on the verse where Jesus himself. I just gave it to you. I just gave it to you. It's saying explicitly. You said you should be holy for I am holy. Let's go here, bro. That's Peter. That's not Jesus. Hold on, brother. Hold on. Peter is God's instrument to write what he had wrote to his people. You can't give me what Jesus said, bro. I give you Isaiah 45. I can give you what you want. Give me what Jesus said. I just told you. When he said it, he was what I was saying. Peter, Peter. I mean, excuse me, I'm not you. Jerry, I just gave you first, I just gave you first Peter. That's not what he was saying. Jerry, Jerry, you don't believe what the Bible says. So it's like talking to a fool anyway. The only reason why I brought you on, the only reason why I brought you on was to give you the opportunity to show what you don't know. Because I could just play your video and let that stand on its own. But I'm giving you the opportunity. I'm giving you the opportunity. You said no one knows whether Jesus sinned in his thoughts. So the question I'm asking you is show me where he did sin in his thoughts. Because the Bible says that he didn't. Show me, show you where he didn't sin in his thoughts. Yes. How can I know what's, I don't know what's in your head, correct? I'm not talking about me. You made the claim about Jesus that we don't know whether or not he sinned. You said we don't know whether or not we sinned and he sinned in his thoughts. So the question I'm asking you is show me in scripture where Jesus had a sin for thought. Jesus said he was not good, right? No, he did not say that. Jesus didn't say he wasn't good. No, he did not say that. He never said he was not good. No, he never said he was not good. Never said that. He said, why do you, he said, why do you call me good to the, to the, to the... Do you know the context of that? Do you know the context of that, Jerry? Can we read it? Can we read it? Please, I mean, you might have made a statement. Jesus said he wasn't good. He never said that. That's your saying. He said, why? So you lying, he said, not only are you lying for it, lying, not only did you lie on Jesus, you lied on Jesus throughout your whole video. Which is a very blasphemous thing to do. Very dangerous. He said, why did, he said, why did you call me good? No one is good. He said, no one is good but the father. You said he called, you say he wasn't good. That's what you said, right? Jesus said that the only, why do you call me good? There is none good but the father, correct? Why did he tell the young rule of that? Do you know the context of the passage? Why the, what does it matter? Jerry, it matters because if you're going to make claims and isolate one verse from its context, from its context, then you don't know what you're talking about. So if you're going to cite the verse, if you're going to cite the verse, cite the verse in its context. What did he mean? No, no, no. You made the claim. I'm giving you the opportunity. You made the claim. I'm giving you the opportunity to respond. Give me the context. I don't know it. No, no, no, no, no. No, you made the claim. Defend your argument. He said he wasn't good. Defend your argument. I'm saying it was perfect. You going to cite the text? Why did Jesus need to be baptized? Are you going to cite the text? I don't have the text in front of me. Oh, you don't have the text but you're making claims about a text that you don't have? It's in the scriptures. Okay, well, I'm waiting. I'm waiting for you to pull it up. Did he say it or not? Are you going to pull up the text? Did Jesus say that only the following is true? I need you to pull up the text, Jerry. I want people to hear the reference that you're making. I want you to hear the reference that you're making. I mean, you had the video, you was reading it in your Bible when you made the video, so you should know where it is, right? Why are you funny, bro? It's unfortunate you think this is funny. It's not really funny. It's sad that you don't know. Did Jesus say only the Father was good? Yes or no? Did he say it? Yes or no? Hello? I'm waiting on your response. I'm waiting on your answer. I'm asking you, bro. Well, you're not asking me anything. What did you say? Say what? You're going to lie on the camera. I'm not lying on anything. I'm waiting on you to give me a verse. Did he say it? Yes or no? He didn't say that he wasn't good. No, he didn't say that, Jerry. He didn't say he wasn't good. You want to give me a verse now or what? Or do you want me to just let you go and I'll just play the video? So I can just let you go if you want me to do that. You can just play. You can play. Okay, thank you. So since it's already known that you don't know the verse. I got some more. Since you don't know the verse, let me help you. Yeah, please do since you said he didn't say that. Right. Mark chapter 10 verse 17 and 18. That's the verse, sir. You got it now? You know what I said? You know what I said? I'm sorry? You know what I said? Of course I do. I'm just giving you the opportunity to make your claim, which was a false one. You said that Jesus said that he was not good. You said that Jesus said he was not good. He never said that. Can you read the verse? Yeah, I'm about to play it on. I'm about to show up on the screen here. Okay. But you said he said he wasn't good. And he was comfortable, Jerry, I'm reading. And he was gone forth from the way and forth into the way. They came running, kneeling to him and said to him and asked him, good master, what should I do that I may inherit eternal life? And Jesus said to him, why callest thou me good? There is none good but one that is God. So are you saying that Jesus is not good and God either? Jesus is not God, no. He said only the Father was good. I'm glad you said it. We'll talk about that in a minute as well too. He said only the Father was good. We'll get to that in a minute as well too, Jerry. We'll get to that in a minute as well too. Can you answer my question? Can you answer my question? Say again? He said only the Father was good. Right. He said only the Father is good. He's talking to the rich young ruler who's making a claim and making a statement superficially and not really acknowledging who Jesus is. Because if he considered Jesus to be a good quote unquote teacher, he would have obeyed what the good teacher told him to do and he didn't. Was he good or not? Oh God, Jesus is definitely good. He said he wasn't good. That's your claim. He didn't say he wasn't a good teacher. He never said that, Jerry. Jerry, he never said that. That's you saying that. So I'm asking you to defend your argument biblically showing that Jesus didn't say that he was good. He just said it right there in the verse. He didn't say that. You're saying that, Jerry. I'm just asking you to defend your argument, Jerry. I'm just asking you to defend your argument, Jerry. If you can do that, I would really appreciate it. I got some more scriptures we can use. No, I need you to answer this one. Where's the text that Jesus said that he was not good? He just said it. Really didn't. No, he didn't. No, he didn't. You got it on your screen. No, he didn't. You're saying that, Jerry. I'm asking you to show the scripture. I'm giving you the opportunity to make your claim. You said it's in Mark 1. You said it's in Mark 1. So you don't even have the scripture. Okay, you got Mark 17. You got Mark 10, 17, and 18, Jerry. You got this one. This is not the gospel. You have Matthew as well. You got the scripture pulled up. But you're the one making the claim. I already read it to you. I ain't making no claim. And I'm giving you the opportunity to respond and make your defense. You have not made it yet. What you mean? He said he wasn't good, bro. So that's your argument? That's your argument? That's the only thing you got? How can he be perfect? So you don't really have a biblical defense for that, right? So you're making the claim on that. How can he be perfect if he wasn't good? Because you're saying he was not perfect. You're saying he's not perfect, Jerry. And nobody believes it, but you. How can he be perfect? Come on, man. Let me talk. I did. How can Jesus be perfect if he said he wasn't good? Nobody said that. That's you saying that. Bro, can you read the verse again? No. No, I've already read it. You're making it logical. You're making it logical arguments. And it's really sad. So let me, let's go to the next one. Did he say he was perfect? Yes. Yes. Where? Okay. You want to go to Hebrews? Where did Jesus say he was perfect? You want to go to Hebrews? Who wrote Hebrews? Tell you what, Jerry. Because it's obvious. You just said you don't know, bro. Hold on, hold on, bro. For the record, I'm giving you the opportunity. I gave you the opportunity to respond and to make your statements because I could have just played the video and just been done with it. So since you're not, so since you're not even willing to answer the questions and defend your own arguments biblically, I can just play the video and let you watch in the green room. Did you want to do that? Because it wasted my time right now at this point. I said it's impossible to know that Jesus was perfect. It's not impossible to know. It's not impossible to know. We know because the word of God declares and makes it known that Jesus Christ, who is God, who you deny, he's not God, which makes you an unbeliever. You're not a Christian because you deny who says he is. Show me what Jesus said explicitly that he was God. You have Revelation. You want to go there too? Show me what he said explicitly. You want to go to Revelation? Revelation 1, verse. Revelation chapter 1, verse 8. Does God receive worship? Jerry, does God receive worship? Yes. He does? Correct. So if a person receives worship, what does that mean? Did King David receive worship? David is not God. I said, we said, does God receive worship? You just answered yes. The King David. You just answered yes. The King David. You just answered yes, Jerry. Jerry, hold on. You just answered the question. I asked you one question. Does God receive worship? I said, does God receive worship? And you said yes. And I said yes. And then I read it. I told you read. I gave you Revelation chapter 1, verse 8. Okay. Let me just put it up on the screen for those who may need to see it as well too. Revelation chapter 1, verse 8. I am the Alpha and Omega says the Lord God who is and who was and who is to come the Almighty. Who's that speaking? He said I'm the Alpha and Omega, correct? Yeah. Who's that speaking? Does that mean I'm God? Who's that speaking? Is that saying I'm God? Yeah. Did you see it right there, verse 8? Alpha and Omega, how does that mean you're God? Do you see verse 8, Jerry? Yes. Could you read it please? I am the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending. Continue. Says the Lord, which is and which is to come the Almighty. Says the Lord God. Says the Lord God. Okay. And which is and which was and which is to come the Almighty. The Almighty. So who's the Almighty? And no, by the way, that's in red letters in case you wanted to see that. That's just a human use. I got you. Okay. So who's the Almighty in that verse? He said he was the Almighty. Who's he? Jesus said he was the Almighty. Which makes him what? Which makes him what? That makes him what? I'm asking you. That makes him God? That makes him what, Jerry? How does that make him God? You just ask me where does Jesus say that he's God? Explicitly. That's just right there. I just gave you one. That's just one. That's just one of several. Want to go to John 1-1 now? So when the scripture said that- No, no, no, no. Uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh. Revelation 1-8. What are you going to do with that one? When the scripture said that you cannot put any other God before me, you believe in one God or two gods? Jerry, you're going to answer the question. You're going to answer the question, Jerry. I'm going to give you this. I'm going to give you that scripture, girl. You're going to give me what? Hold on. I don't want you to give me anything. I just want you to acknowledge what I'm saying. But what I want to show you, what I want to show you is Jesus said that he came to be served. He didn't come to be served. Jerry, back up from the camera for a second. He said that you're close. So I want you to answer the question. Revelation 1-8. You said that, where does the Bible say that Jesus? You said that he was God. I just gave you Revelation 1-8. That's just one. That's just one. What are you going to do with that verse? Just that one. I'll give you that one. No, no, no, no. No, what are you going to do with that verse, Jerry? But what you going to do with all these other verses? Jerry, Jerry, Jerry. Answer the question, sir. I brought you on here to give you the opportunity. I brought you on here, Jerry. Jerry, Jerry, you said that Jesus was not God. You said that. What does Revelation 1-8 say in your Bible? Revelation says he's the Alpha and the Omega. Continue. What does it say, Jerry? I lost the verse. He says on the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. So you're saying Jesus didn't have a beginning, correct? Jerry, read the rest of the verse. Did Jesus have a beginning? I need you to read the rest of the verse, Jerry. Did Jesus have a beginning? You're not going to read the rest of the verse? I'm dealing with the verse you asked me to answer. No, no, I'm asking you to read the rest of the verse. You said that this verse is talking about Jesus as the creator of all things. He has no end and no no beginning, right? Yeah, the Son. No, he does not. He's God. Was Jesus created? No, Jesus was not created. Really? He's the eternal Son of God. Yes. He was born from a woman. And his physicality, yes. But he was not created, but I'm sorry. He had a beginning. We're talking about the eternal Son of God. Where does it say that Jesus is eternal? John 1-1, turn there and I'll put it up on the screen. Who's speaking in John 1-1? Is that Jesus speaking? Jesus was speaking in Revelation 1-8, right? Yeah, I get you though. Okay, then let's stop with the foolishness there. No, we ain't done with that. All right, now we're definitely done. Because you already made, you already conceded to that. Yeah, it's too many. Genesis, excuse me, John 1-1. Go ahead. And the beginning was the Word. And the Word was with God. And the Word was God. Do you have that? Yes. He, who is the He? You know what an antecedent means, Jerry? What does that mean? Glad you asked. Antecedent means something that just preceded the statement that you're about to make. So in John 1-1, in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God. And the Word was God. He, that He is God, was in the beginning with you. That's Jesus. Verse 2. He was in the beginning with God. The Word was. All things, the Word, came into being through Him. Him who? The Word, who is God and who was with God. Face to face. All things. Verse 3. Came into being through Him. And apart from Him, nothing came into being that has come into being. Let me just stop right there. Is Jesus speaking? Are you going to answer that question in verse 1? Is Jesus speaking? Is Jesus speaking or is he speaking? John, John, John the Apostle, who the Holy Spirit inspired to write. John is speaking about the Son, who is Jesus Christ, the second person of the Godhead, who is eternal. Where's the Father from the beginning? Where is Jesus saying this? This is John writing, right? What he believed about Jesus, correct? You need to show me what Jesus is saying, what John is saying. And you know the sad thing about, and Jared, let me just say this for the record. Let me just say this for the record. It's sad that you have come to this place, because I remember back in 2012 and 2013, you were professing to be a Christian. I don't know what kind of person you are now. And that's the sad reality. Take on, take on. That's the sad reality. And so as we continue with this, I'm just saying this is what happens when you are not rooted and grounded in God. You have definitely gone off the rails. Spiritually speaking. And it's a sad reality, man. And that really is a very sad testament. Do you serve Jesus or God? I serve God, the Father, God, the Son, and God, the Holy Spirit, the three in one. But let's go back to John 17, because I'm not chasing rabbits with you. No, no, no. We're going to John 17. We're going to John 17, Jerry. We're going to John 17. No, we're going to John 17. You asked the question, where did Jesus speak? You asked me the question about where does Jesus speak about himself being in the beginning? So we're going to John 17. And if not, I'm going to mute you. Simple as that. All right, we'll go. Thank you. John chapter 17, verse one. Jesus, John chapter 17, verse one. Jesus spoke these things and lifting up his eyes to heaven. He said, Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son that the Son may glorify you. Even as you gave him authority over all flesh, that to all whom you have given him, he may give eternal life. This is eternal life, that they may know you, the only true God and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. I glorified you on the earth, having accomplished the work which you have given me to do. Now, Father, glorify me together with yourself, with the glory which I had with you before the world was. Can we go to verse three? No, I need you to deal with verse five. God said that he would share his glory with no man in the Old Testament. I need you to deal with verse five of John 17. Did God say that he would share his glory with no man in the Old Testament? Jesus, the Son is not a man. You believe that Jesus is the fully God and fully man, right? Absolutely. He's the God-man, though, on earth. He was the God-man on earth. He was the God-man on earth. In John 17.5, we're not going to know the verse until we deal with this one. John 17.5, what does it say? It goes, he said, glorify me with thine own self, with the glory which goes against the Old Testament scriptures. Read the rest of the verse, Jerry. I'm going to read it, which I had with thee before the world was. Which I had with thee before the world began. What does that presuppose? If God shares his glory with no man, right? This is your argument. That's what the scripture's saying, the Old Testament. Listen to me, Jerry, according to your argument, right? If God shares his glory with no man, and Jesus in John 17.5 says, glorify me together with you, with the glory which I had with you before the world began. What does that conclude, and what does that presuppose, Jerry? That presuppose that he's going against the Old Testament scriptures. Because the Old Testament says, right or wrong, God will share his glory with no man. So now you're charging Jesus Christ with robbing God of his glory? Absolutely, because he said he would share with no man. Okay, we're done. Hold on, let me deal with verse three. Can I deal with verse three? We're done, we're done. Can I deal with verse three? No, we're done. Let me go to verse three. No, we're done. No, we're done. Let me go to verse three. You're not even answering it. Matter of fact, you're making blasphemous statements. That's really what you're doing. I didn't read to you verse five of John 17, and you saying that he violated Isaiah? Can I read verse three? Can I read verse three? Yeah, go ahead. Let's see how fun this is. He said, this is eternal life, that they may know thee, the only true God and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. Now, who did Jesus say was the only true God? He said the Father. So how you gonna say Jesus Christ? And the conjunction, and the conjunctions right there. What does conjunction mean? And I'm not talking about Schoolhouse Rock either. What does the conjunction mean? You tell me. You seem to be an educated person, even though you went to HRD most likely. But what does verse three say? This is eternal life. That they may know thee, the only, the only true God. Continue. So who did he say? Continue. Jerry, don't stop there. And Jesus Christ. Stop. So he says verse three, let's let the audience read it as well. Let me just entertain this foolishness for a second. Because you just slammed your own argument. This is eternal life. I don't read letters too. That they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. He says this is eternal life. That they may know you, the Father, and Jesus Christ, the Son, whom you have sent. So why are you isolating Jerry, the God here? He didn't say. He didn't say. What does verse three say, Jerry? I just read it to you. And this is the, as a matter of fact, I read it in the King James for you. How about that? And this is the life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ. He didn't just say, and this is eternal. This is life eternal, that they may know thee. And that's it. He says no, that they may know thee and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. Who did he say was the true God? Both. Both are God. He says that they may, he says eternal life. He says eternal life in verse three. Jerry, he says eternal life in verse three, that they may know you and me. That's eternal life. Jerry, your logic is so sad. It's comical because I'm just reading to you. I'm just reading to you what you just said. Verse three gives a conjunction. It connects both objects, both persons in that verse. It doesn't separate it. It connects them. He says again, let me read it to you slower. And this is the life eternal. What is the life eternal? He tells us right here that they might know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou have sent. Now Jerry, maybe you forgot what you just said about five minutes ago, give or take. Maybe seven. You said that Revelation chapter one verse eight, you said, I give you that one. I give you that one. That Jesus Christ called himself and claimed himself to be God. There's still don't make him God. Did you not say that? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Did you not concede to that? Did you not concede to that? I don't. Did you not concede to Revelation chapter one verse eight where Jesus Christ called himself the Almighty, the Alpha and the Omega. He's Almighty. He's God. He made the claim that he made. If he says he's Almighty, that makes him God, right? No, that's the claim that he made. That makes, oh, that's a claim. That's the claim that he made. So what were you conceding then? What were you conceding then to, Jerry? What were you conceding to? When he asked the disciples, who do they say he is? No, no, no. I'm asking you about what did you concede to Revelation chapter one verse eight, sir? You admit it publicly in this live that Jesus Christ is God. So are you back peddling? I didn't say that. You say you didn't say that? I didn't say that. You didn't say what? What I'm saying is, bro, you saying that Jesus was not created, right? Can we deal with Revelation 1.8? We're talking about who God is. That's what we're dealing with. You said Revelation 1.8, you conceded earlier that you said that Jesus is God. You said that, right? If Jesus was created, that verse cannot apply to him. That's what I'm saying. Jesus was born of a virgin, but the Son was not created. The Son was not created. The Son was eternal. I'm sorry? What? Give me the verse where Jesus says he's not created. I just gave you John 1. I haven't even finished reading John 1 yet. That's what John said. Give me what Jesus said. I just, hold on, hold on, hold on. And see, there's the problem, because I'm giving you Scripture. You don't like it because it doesn't fit your narrative. I just gave you John 17, I just gave you John 17, where he said that this is eternal life, that they may know you and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. Who is the only true God that he said? I just told you. He's talking about the Father. He's talking about the Father. And he says himself. So now, so now, I just gave you John 1. I just gave you John 1 as well. You deny that. So you're not a Christian though, Jerry. That's the point. Jesus didn't say that, bro. John said it. Jerry, Jerry, Jerry. You're not a Christian. And you're trying to, and you're trying to now dismantle Scripture, and you can't. Which makes you a fool. You said, say, do you serve Jesus or God? Yes. You serve Jesus or God the Father? Yes. Which one you serve? Both. I serve all three. I serve the Godhead. I serve the Godhead. Jesus told Satan that you should only serve God. Jerry. Correct. Jerry. I'm really trying to get to this video, and we are already 44 minutes in, and you have not really made one, you've not made that one plausible argument. That Jesus said that you should only serve God. So let me go ahead, let me go ahead and finish the rest of this video. Let's have a good question, bro. Hope I can finish it with you, because you're not making any sense. So we've already established the fact that you deny the perfection of Christ. You deny his sinlessness. You deny the fact that he's, you deny the fact that he's divine. So you're not a Christian. You can not be a Christian and deny who Jesus is. What did Jesus say that he was perfect? He was sinless, sir. I'm still waiting on the break. I just told you. I just told you. I just told you. He came. I'm sorry? Did you not read it? Where did Jesus say that he was sinless? He was perfect. Not what Peter said or didn't say. This must be a joke. This must be a joke. Okay, so what if I give you the last supper? How about that? Would that work for you? You can go to any one. No, no, I'm asking you. Have you read the narrative on that? Go ahead. Just give me the first. No, I'm asking you. Have you read? It don't matter what I read. Just give me the first. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Because if it doesn't matter, why are you even here? Because again, I could have just played the video. And it probably would have been easy. But I just wanted to give you an opportunity to be fair so people can see how foolish and how asinine you sound. The burden of proof is on you to prove that you know. The burden of proof is not on me. Because anybody that's a Christian believes what the Word of God says. The burden of proof ain't on me. The burden of proof is on you to prove that the Word of God is not true. So prove me that the Word of God is not true, Jerry. I'm giving you the opportunity. Prove to me that the Word of God is not true. You already said that we don't know that Jesus was not sinless. When the Bible says it. The Bible says that all scripture is inspired by God. Paul said that, correct? Yeah. And 1 Corinthians chapter 7. Are you going to do this video? I'm going to do this video. I'm not going to let you hop around. I'm not going to let you hop around. Okay, I mean we can deal with the video. Yeah, let's deal with this video. Let's do that. Because it's unfortunate. Here we go. If you really think about it, it's honest to say, it's no way to possibly know. If the Bible says there is no man, there is not a just man on the earth in ecclesiastics. If Paul said that all have sinned and Romans 3, all have sinned, Paul said there is not one good. He said there is not one good. And what did Jesus say? He said that he wasn't good. So he agreed with Paul on this occasion, now they agree with each other. So how can you be perfect if you're not good? You can't be perfect. You can't be perfect and not be good. So I'm going to go to Hebrews. We're going to start it off with Hebrews. We'll stop right there and I'm going to let you come back on here. So now, John chapter 7 verse 18, I'm going to respond to this. John chapter 7 verse 18, this was giving me the opportunity to verbally make your claim, but unfortunately you can't. So John chapter 7 verse 18, it says, he who speaks, this is Jesus, again, red letters. He who speaks from himself seeks his own glory. But he who is seeking the glory of the one who sent him, he is true. And there is no unrighteousness in him. Do you see that, John? I'm going to make sure you see that. Do you see that in the text? You said that Jesus... Verse 18 of John 7. Verse 18, John 7. Do you see that? He that seeks his own glory, that sent him, the same is true and no unrighteousness is in him. Who is the hymn that he's referring to? Who is the hymn? He never said it was the hymn. He's talking about himself. It's right there in verse 18. There is no unrighteousness in him. None. Yeah, none. But I just told you, it's no way to know whether Jesus was perfect or not because we don't have all this life in the... The Word of God clearly teaches that he's perfect. He can stand it right here. He's the sinless Son of God. He came and he died on the cross for the sins of those who were repent and believe. He was the perfect sacrifice. Hebrews writes that. He's the perfect sacrifice. The Old Testament says no man can die for our sins. Right. Right around. Yeah, no man can't. No. And Jesus was not just a man. He was the God, man. And that's what you keep missing. You believe that Jesus is fully man, right? He's fully... He was fully God and fully man. Show me the scripture. I believe it. Do you know the term? Do you know the term? Do you know the term hypostatic union? You know what that means? Show me the scripture. What scripture? What did the Father say that His Son was fully God and fully man? What did God the Father say? Let's go back to John 1. God the Father said that? Let's go back to John 1. I'm going to go back to John 1. Then we go to Hebrews. But let's go back to John 1 real quick. You said you don't know who wrote Hebrews. So what are we doing with Hebrews? In the beginning was the Word. In the beginning was the Word. And the Word was with God. And the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being by Him. Came into being, excuse me, through Him. And apart from Him, nothing came into being that has come into being. Verse 4. In Him was life and the life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness and the darkness did not comprehend it. There came a man sent from God whose name was John. He came as a witness to testify about the light so that all might believe through Him. He was not the light, but He came to testify about the light. There was the true light which coming into the world enlightens every man. He, that is Jesus, was in the world and the world was made through Him and the world did not know Him. He came to His own and those who were His own did not receive Him. But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even those, even to those who believe in His name, who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. Verse 14. And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. And we saw His glory. Glory as from the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth. John testified about Him and cried out saying, This was He of whom I said, He who comes after me has a higher rank than I, for He existed before me. For all His fullness we have all received and received and grace upon grace. For the law was given through Moses. Grace and truth were realized through Jesus Christ. No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him. This is the testimony of John when the Jews sent to him priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who are you? And he confessed and did not deny, but confess, I am not the Christ. They asked him, What then? Are you Elijah? And he said, I am not. Are you the prophet? And he answered, No. Then they said to him, Who are you so that we may give an answer to those who sent us? What do you say about yourself? He said, I am a voice of one crying in the wilderness. Make straight the way of the Lord as Isaiah the prophet said. Now they had been sent from the Pharisees. They asked him and said to him, Why then are you baptized? And if you are not the Christ or Elijah, know the prophet. John answered them and saying, I baptize you in water, but among you stands one whom you do not know. It is he who comes after me, the thong of whose sandal I am not worthy to untie. These things took place in Bethany beyond the Jordan where John was baptizing. The next day, he saw Jesus coming to him and said, Behold, the Lamb of God, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. Just wanted to read that lengthy portion because I wanted to ask this one question, Jerry. Who was speaking? John is writing and he's speaking about Jesus. He said that Jesus is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. So can man take away sin? Did he take away the sins of the world? Can man take away sin? Did he take away the sins of the whole world? So you don't believe Jesus died for everybody, correct? No, I don't. But what does that have to do with the text that I said? He says right here, he's the Lamb of God. He's the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. Okay, did he do that? Yeah, he did. Why do you still ask for forgiveness and repent if he took your sin away? Because that's what we're commanded to do. That's why. But what does it say right there? He says he's the Lamb of God. Is Jesus Christ the Lamb of God? It's a claim that he made. Is Jesus Christ the Lamb of God? No. You've already conceded to Revelation 1. You would think you would be consistent in your argument, but you're being consistent or being inconsistent. So is Jesus Christ- No, the Bible is inconsistent. The Bible is inconsistent. The best thing is consistent. The Bible is inconsistent, but you're reading from the Bible to try to prove what? Yeah, because I'm proving the Bible is inconsistent. You're not proving anything, really. Jerry, you haven't proved the thing. You haven't proved the thing. You asked me the question. Where does Jesus say that he's God? I gave you Revelation 1. I gave you John. I gave you John 1. I haven't even finished giving you the rest of the text. So let's go to Hebrews chapter 1. Let's go to Hebrews chapter 1. There's the Old Testament says that no man can die for our sins. You say he took away the sins of the world, right? Hebrews chapter 1. Who wrote Hebrews? God, after he spoke long ago, to the fathers and the prophets in many portions and in many ways. And these last days has spoken to us in his son, whom he appointed heir of all things through whom he also made the world. Verse 3. And he is the radiance of his glory and the exact representation of his nature. The exact representation of his nature, the caractere of his nature, and oppose all things by the word of his power. And when he had made purification of sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on High, having become as much better than the angels as he has inherited more excellent name than they. For to which of the angels did he ever say, you are my son, today I have begotten you. And again, I will be a father to him and he should be a son to me. And he should be a son to me. And when he again brings the firstborn into the world, he says, and let all the angels of God worship him. Only God receives worship, right? That's what I thought. Verse 7. And of the angels, he says, who makes his angels wins and his ministers a flame of fire. But of the son, he says. But of the son, the father says, you're thrown, O God, to the son. Your throne, O God, is forever and ever. And the righteous scepter is the scepter of his kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness. Therefore, God, your God has anointed you with the oil of gladness above your companions. And you, Lord, in the beginning, you, Lord Jesus, the son, in the beginning lay the foundations of the earth and the heavens are the works of your hands. They will perish, but you remain. And they will all, they will become like an old garment. And like a mantle, you will roll them up. Like a garment, they will also be changed. But you are the same. And your years would not come to an end. But to which of the angels has he ever said, sit at your right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet? Talks about the son who receives worship. Who the father, who the father, God the father calls the son God. What did he, what did he call him God at again in Hebrews? Yeah, I just read it. And I'll read also Philippians 2. Let's go there. Can you show me the verse where Jesus said. Let's read Philippians 2. Can you show me the verse where Jesus said that he created all things? Philippians chapter 2. Take on it. Can you show me the verse? Verse 3. Can you show me the verse where Jesus said. Do nothing from self for this or from empty conceit, but be humane of your mind, regard one another as more important to yourselves. Do not make a lookout for your own personal interests, but also for the interests of others. Verse 5. Have this attitude in yourselves, which was also in Christ Jesus. Who also, who although excuse me, he existed in the form of God did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, taking the form of a bond servant and made and being made in the likeness of men, being found an appearance as a man. He humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross for this reason. God highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is that which is above every name. So that at the name of Jesus, every knee will bow of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth. And that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. Is he gone? Okay, he's gone. No problem. Let's continue. And now maybe we can get somewhere. Unfortunately, try to get him an opportunity. So let me do this. Let's see. This here we go. So I'm going to go ahead and play this, play this video. Then that way maybe we can get more accomplished here. Let's do that. Chapter five, first eight through nine. It says, speaking of Jesus, though he were a son, though he was a son, yet he learned obedience by the things which he suffered. So he had to learn to be obedient. How can you be perfect and have to learn how to be obedient? Usually when somebody come, when a baby come out the womb, you have to teach them to do what? When a child come out the womb, you have to teach them to do what's right. And here's the problem with that. As I was trying to explain to Jerry, Jesus in his humanity, yes, he subjected himself as a human being to mankind. So yes, he went through all the processes of life as you and I would. He had to learn. He had to grow things of that nature. He voluntarily suspended, he was always God, but he subjected himself to become man. That's what I read to you in Philippians chapter two, verses five throughout. So Jesus Christ never, the son never stopped being God. He voluntarily emptied himself. That's what he did and became man, but never stopped being God. He's the God man. He never had a sin nature. He was born of a virgin. So this gentleman makes these claims. Unfortunately, he has no biblical leg to stand on. So let me just go to some verses and again make sure that this is clearly understood because he said you can't be perfect and not be God. You can't be perfect and not be God. So when Jesus emptied himself, theologians calls it the canosis. He, he, he self emptied himself. It was a voluntary, it was a voluntary action that the son did. Again, let me just go ahead and just read Philippians two again. Let me just go ahead and read Philippians two again because I want to make sure everybody, everyone gets to just on what, on what Jesus did. I'll start at verse five in Philippians two. Have this attitude in yourself, which was also in Christ Jesus who also, who although he existed in the form of God did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself. Do you see that? He did this, but emptied himself. It's a fact taking the form of a bond servant. He emptied himself, taking the form of a bond servant and being made verse seven and the likeness of men being found in appearance as a man. He humbled himself. Do you see that by becoming biblical? I mean, I was reading some, I was reading my wife's comment by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. This is what Jesus Christ did. He emptied himself. He didn't ever regard being, being God or being equal to God a thing to be, to be grasped or to be sought after because he knew who he was. Took on the form of a bond servant verse, verse seven, being made in the likeness of men being found in an appearance of as a man. He humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. And for this reason, Paul writes who Jerry doesn't believe. If it's Paul saying it, that is, that it makes it less inspired. For this reason also, God highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name, which is above every name. So that the name of Jesus, every knee will bow. Well, why would, why would they bow if, if he's not God? Every knee will bow of those who are in heaven on, on earth and on earth and under the earth. And every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God, the Father. That's what scripture says who the son is. This is, this is a sense in making anything up. Jesus is more than just a man. He's the God man. Thank you, average Joe. Thank you, brother. He's more than just a man and he's not just a man. He's God, always been God. The Bible says when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth his son born of a woman. So there was a time in human history where the, where, where, where Christ was born, but there was never a time where the son was not. He always existed with the father, always. He never stopped being God. Let's see if we continue on with this so-called video. You don't have to teach them to do what's wrong. They come out doing what's wrong. But if Jesus was always perfect, why did he have to learn how to do what's right? The Bible says he learned, it says he learned obedience. Right? How can you learn obedience without being disobedient? He had to learn obedience. If he was God, why did he have to learn how to be obedient? If he was God, why did he have to learn anything? Can you teach God anything? But verse nine is the real clincher. It says, in being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto them that obey him. So the Bible says, does it say Jesus was always perfect? No, it says, in being made perfect, so how can he be perfect if he had to be made perfect, right? Let's go to Hebrews chapter five in verse 89. Hebrews five verse 89. Although he was a son, and it's funny that this guy likes quoting the scripture, but he quotes it so much out of context, it's just, it's sad. But anyway, although he was a son, he learned obedience from the things which he suffered. Having been made perfect, he became to all those who obey him in the source of eternal life. And it is mentioned to you, in his humanity, he learned. In his humanity, he subjected himself to those who he created. But ultimately, as the son, Christ, Jesus, and his humanity, he learned obedience. He experienced things that you and I, as human beings, experienced. And although he was tempted, he was not, he was yet without sin. I hold to the impeccability of the Savior. I don't believe that there was anything in Jesus that would cause him to sin. Although he experienced temptation, there was nothing in him that wanted to sin because he was perfect. That's what the scriptures teach. In fact, the commentator says this. How was Jesus made perfect? The question is legitimate for Jesus as a son of God, is perfect from eternity. But in his humanity, Jesus grew in wisdom and stature and in favor with God and men. Luke 2.52. Let me just highlight it so you can see it. And Jesus kept increasing in wisdom. That's intellect, stature. That's physicality. And favor with God. That's spiritually and with men, socially. He grew. He increased the Bible says in wisdom, stature and favor with God and men. Commentator says, we see his development in the school of obedience as the burden becomes more taxing for Jesus. So his willingness to assume the risk his father has given him increases. Jesus made perfect through suffering leads many sons to glory. Perfection therefore must be seen as completion of the task Jesus had to perform. That's all it means. Yeah, I agree, Rick. And welcome, brother. Good to see you. Good to see you. Yeah, he's regurgitating repeating the same old Aryan heretical arguments. Absolutely. That's how he was perfect. He learned as a, as the, as the God man, two natures. He had a divine and in human nature, both pure, both sinless. And it had to be otherwise, Christ could not die for us. Let's, let's try to continue. Let's continue. It says that he was, it says that he was being made perfect. But how would you have to learn to be obedient? And how would you have to be made perfect if he was already perfect? He was sinless. Right. Let's see what else we got. Nothing. The issues with Jesus being sinless. He called a woman a dog. Jesus called a woman a dog. Oh, I gotta stop real, real quick. I gotta stop here real quick because if y'all don't think that you've heard enough blasphemy, you ain't really heard nothing yet. Okay. I'm just telling you right now. You really haven't heard anything yet because he's going to try to, I'm not making this up. I can't make this up. I can't, I cannot, I cannot script this any worse than what this, this man already did. Okay. I'm going to let this play. I'm going to try to let this thing play without stopping it so you can get the full gist. I know Monica. I know. Please no more. I know. I know. I know. I know. Yeah. Yeah. You, you, you about to hear it. You about to hear it. CG, you about to hear it. I want all of y'all to hear this foolishness. All of you because what this man charges Jesus with. Listen, I would not want to be him even on a good day. But let's go. So in Matthew 10 36, Jesus was moved with compassion. He saw the crowds. So Jesus was known for being compassionate, right? He was known for being lovey-dovey with the children. Bring the children to me. Lovey-dovey with the children, right? He was known for being compassionate. According to this 10 30 Matthew 10 36, he was moved with compassion, except for when he met this woman right here. Matthew 15. We're going to start at verse 22. The woman came to him saying, Have mercy on me, son of David, oh Lord, thou son of David, my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. And this was Jesus' whole mission. But I understand he was sent. He was sent to the law sheep of Israel. I get that. Right? He said, My daughter is vexed with a devil, but he answered her not a word. He didn't even answer the lady. So just because you sent to a certain group of people, if we're supposed to love our neighbor, if we, Jesus said, we're supposed to love our enemy, enemy. Why is he not showing love to this particular woman? If we're supposed to love our enemy, right? If we, Jesus said that we're supposed to do good those who do wrong to us, right? But why didn't, why didn't he follow his own example, his own words? Because he told his lady, he called his lady the dog. The lady came to him begging him to deliver her daughter from this evil spirit. But he answered another word. His disciples came and besought him saying, send her away. So even the disciples ain't showing no compassion. They ain't showing no love either. They like, get out of here. So what do they say about their character? But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the law sheep of Israel. Then she came and worshiped him saying, Lord, help me. How cohorted can you be if somebody is begging you for help, right? If you say that we're supposed to love our enemy, do good to those that despitefully use you. Love your neighbor as yourself and all of these types of things, right? He didn't answer the lady. He didn't acknowledge her. He said he wasn't sent but to the law sheep of Israel. But she came and worshiped him. She begged him. He answered and said, it is not meat to take the children's bread and cast it to dogs. And she said, true Lord, yet the dogs eat the crumbs which fall from the master's table. So she said, greatest thy faith. She said, he said, greatest thy faith, be as thy will. And her daughter was made whole. So he healed the woman. He, you know, he, he said, your faith has made your daughter whole. But look at what she had to go through to get it. She had to beg and plead and crowd and then all the insults. He wasn't kind. He wasn't compassionate. It's like he did it. But look, look at all that it took for him to do it, right? So he wasn't kind. He wasn't compassionate. He didn't show that lady love. It's like he almost just did it. You know what I'm saying? Just to get out the way. Just to get out the way. Call a lady a dog. We know what they mean today. Jesus will receive worship. Let me, let me just stop right there because I need to know what, what is it, what is Jesus calling them a dog meant. I just, I wanted to play it in its entirety. Does anybody need a drink? Because water won't do. Water would not do. It will not do ladies. I'm sorry. Listen, listen. This is, yeah, this is what happens when you cut out a, man, this is what happened. You don't even, you put the consent in school. This is what happened when you don't read your Bible. This is what happened when you're not saved. How about that? This is what happens when you don't know God. You charge. I told y'all, this is, this is blasphemy. Thank you for the super chat, brother. Yeah, huh? This is what happens when you don't know God. So he made a lot of, he made a lot of accusations against our Lord. Did he not? Number one, number one, he charged Jesus with being cold hearted. Two, he said Jesus was unloving. He wasn't kind or compassionate. Then he says that by calling the Syrophoenician woman a dog or the Canaanite woman a dog, we all know what that means. Well, I'm going to, I'm going to help us understand what that means in its proper context. So let's, let's do that. Because we heard what Jerry said. We heard what Jerry's kid said, but I want to see what is the word of God say in his proper, in his proper context. Shall we, can we do that? Can we make sure that when we, when we are reading the word of God, that we're reading it in his proper context according to authorial intent. Matthew chapter 15, and we'll start, let's start at verse, I think it might be verse 19. Let's see, verse 21. Y'all all right? Let's see, let's see what the word of God says. Jesus went away from there and withdrew into the district of Tyre and Sidon and the Canaanite woman from that region came out and began to cry out saying, have mercy on me, Lord, son of David. My daughter is cruelly demon possessed, but he did not answer her a word and his disciples came and implored him saying, send her away because she keeps shouting at us. But he answered and said, I was only sent to the lost sheep of Israel. But she came and began to bow before him saying, Lord, help me. And the answer then said, it is not good to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs. But she said, yes, Lord, but even the dog's feet on the crumbs which fall from the master's table, then Jesus said to her, old woman, your faith is great. It shall be done for you as you wish. And her daughter was healed at once. What do you think the purpose of why Matthew records this story is for us to glean from? Well, I believe this one. I just want to give you what my thoughts are. I believe it is that it was to test her faith, the persistence of her faith, the perseverance of her faith. She came to Jesus believing, she came to Jesus believing that he could do what she knew he could do. That takes faith. And even though she was being shooed away, and even though she was a Gentile, a Canaanite, Siphanesha, it didn't stop her from going to the one who had the power to heal her demonic possessed or demon possessed daughter. It doesn't make Jesus cold hearted because he knew what he was going to do. He didn't answer her at the time, but he answered her in his time. And let me to say this real quick. Let me put my camera on so y'all can see what I'm saying. Just because God does not answer us in the timing that we want him to answer us does not mean, or neither should we conclude, that he doesn't care or that he doesn't hear us. Actually, he's trying to see something, but let's go to the text again. He tested her faith, I believe, but I want to see if I'm the only one that believes it. I know I'm not, because I know I got some viewers that's watching as well as well too. But in Matthew's commentary, one commentator writes this, quote, let me let me go up a little bit here. And I know probably Jerry's kid is watching. It said the same reasoning should be and all probability be applied in connection with the Sire Phoenician or Canaanite woman. Jesus delayed to heed her request in order to test her faith. That is, to refine it as silver is refined, purified. He wanted to give her faith and opportunity for more glorious expression. Do you see that? The more glorious expression of the woman's faith is found in verse 27. Right, Lord, she said, but even the house dogs eat some of the scraps that dropped from their master's table to the, to the, to the three things said about her in the preceding fourth is now added, namely her humility. She does not even resent being compared with the house dog as contrasted with a child. She accepts her inferior position. Fifthly also know her quick wittedness. She turns the very word of seeming of reproach into a reason for optimism. She transforms impending defeat into jubilant victory. She is saying as it were, I am being compared with a house dog. I accept what is implied in this, in this comparison. I not only accepted, I rejoice with it or rejoice of it for certainly good masters do not allow their pet dogs to starve the death. They permit them to eat the crumbs that fall from the table. Basic to all her words and actions is six Lee, her uns, uns, unswerving God given faith in Jesus, whom she has confessed as her Lord and Messiah. Seventhly, and finally we shall ever remember this woman because of her perseverance. So I'm not crazy. A quality that can be viewed either by itself or in combination with her faith. Hence her persevering faith. Yeah. That's the whole point. That is the whole point. Jesus knows what he's doing and he knew the reason why he did what he did. Yeah. Ain't that something Erica? That dude was more offended than the woman. Facts. Facts. I guess we'll find out in heaven, Damon. We'll find out we get the glory. All we know that he was God inspired. How about that? Man, but let's continue because again, he said a lot in this video and I'm trying to finish like I'm trying to finish through it. I'm trying y'all. Let's go. So he broke. Are we supposed to only worship God, the Father? That's what Jesus said. Why did he receive worship? How can he be perfect if he will be breaking the commandment? If he said in John 423 that he said the Father is seeking the hour comes and now he is when the true worshippers shall worship who? Jesus now should worship the Father in spirit and in truth for the Father is seeking such to worship him. So Jesus said they should, the Father is seeking those who will worship him. Jesus didn't say we should worship him, but he did receive worship from the disciples and we'll go and see when Satan came to Jesus. Let me just stop there and deal with this, and deal with this worship part just in case somebody is believing Jerry's kids and thinking that he's, he's spot on with that. Did Jesus receive worship? I know that's a rhetorical question. I know y'all probably say come on, say go stop playing. Did Jesus receive worship? Yes or no? Let me just put this up in the chat for those who may be watching this. Did Jesus Christ, the second person of the Godhead, did he receive worship? Yes? Can I get another witness? Does anyone else believe that Jesus received worship? Anyone else? Okay, here we go. They're coming in as a flood now. All right. Okay, he received worship. Okay, so let's look at some verses to prove that Jesus received worship, shall we? We want to have this on record. So we're going to look at Matthew. Let's go to the beginning. Matthew, uh, Matthew chapter two, Matthew chapter two, verse 11, I believe. Go back here. Bear with me. Matthew two verse 11. After coming into the house, after coming into the house, the Magi, the Magi, they saw the child with Mary his mother and they failed to the ground and, huh, what's that word? And he's a baby. They saw the child with Mary his mother and they failed to the ground and worshiped him. Y'all see that? That's one. Let's see if we have any more. Let's just see if there's any more, you know, worshipers in the house, shall we? Let's see if we can pull up another one. Let's see. Let's try the 21st chapter, 21, nine. How about, let's see if any grown, let's see if any other man may have worshiped him. Let's see if the crowd saw, the crowd did, huh? So the crowd's going ahead of him and those who followed him were shouting, Lord save Hosanna to the son of David. Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest. If I, you crazy dude. What does Jesus say? Yeah, I know what you're doing. Detox, bro. Ain't that what he said? Come on, man. Stop it. Let's see if he gets any more worship. Let's just see. I'm just trying to see something. How about 1433? How about, how about 1433? We all know the story, right? Grown men in the midst of a storm tells Peter to come. Peter got out of the boat, walked on the water and came toward Jesus, but seeing the wind became frightened and began to sink, cried out, Lord save me. Immediately Jesus stretched out his hand and took hold of him and said to him, you have little faith. Why did you doubt? When they got into the boat, the wind stopped and those who were in the boat worshiped him. What did they do? Worshiped him. Saying that sounds like confession. You are certainly God's son. That's what Pete and them said, but y'all are petty. Y'all are petty boy. Let's see if we can find another one because maybe we're missing it. Let's see if John has an account. John 20 verse 28. We all know, don't Thomas. We all know that's what they call him. Thomas was gone about over a week, eight days, a big exact. And after eight days, his disciples were getting inside and Thomas with them. Jesus came. The doors haven't been shut stood in their midst and said, peace be with you. Then he said to Thomas, reach here with your finger and see my hands and reach here in and reach your hand and put it into my side and do not be unbelieving, but believing Thomas answered and said to him, Oh, by the way, Thomas is a Jew and he's not using my Lord and my God as a filler. He says my Lord and my God, literally the Lord of me and the God of me, the Lord of me and the God of me. That's what, that's what Thomas said, my Lord and my God. And, and, and what does Jesus say? Did he say, don't call me that? Verse 30, verse 29, excuse me. He says, because you have seen me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see and yet believe. But that's what, that's what Thomas said about him. Again, let's go back to Hebrews without interruption. Hebrews one, five to 13. For which, for to which of the angels did he ever say, you are my son, today I have begotten you. And again, I will be a father to him and he shall be a son to me. And when he again, verse six brings the firstborn into the world, he says, and let all the angels of God, hmm, there's that W word again, worship him. And of the angels, he says, who makes his angels wins and his menaces a flame of fire. But of the son, but of the son, he says your throne, who, oh God, is forever and ever, forever, ever? Yeah, forever. And the righteous scepter is the scepter of his kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness. Therefore God, your God has anointed you with the oil of gladness above your companions and you Lord in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the works of your hands. They will perish, but you remain and they will all become old like a garment and like a mantle, you will roll them up like a garment. They will also be changed, but you are the same and your years will not come to an end. Verse 13, but to which of the angels has he ever said, sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet? Certainly welcome. I'm not sure if this is your first time, but I was responding to an infamous video that I've been posting on my live here. Responding to a gentleman who denies the authority of the scriptures, denies that Jesus is God, he's not a Christian, that has been made clear and evident in the live. But he had been given an opportunity to publicly defend himself and he couldn't. And so he left because I would not let him run my life and continue to keep spouting all foolishness without answering biblical questions. But it's about less than 10 minutes of this video, so I wanted to just cover that as well. So, but we all know that that that Jesus Christ receives worship because he's God. The father, the son, the spirit, the three and one, they receive worship. And let me just go to, I'm just tempted to go to one, maybe two. Job, so we know the father receives worship, John 4.23, let's just go there quickly. But an hour is coming and now it is when the true worshipers will worship the father and spirit and in truth for such people, those fathers seeks to be his worshipers, right? So that's the father, we're already talking about the son. We know that. Also the spirit, Job, 33 verse 4, the spirit of God has made me and the breath of the Almighty gives me life. We know that God the father receives worship, God the son receives worship, God the spirit receives worship. How do we know this? Because of what the spirit does, he gives us life. He's worthy of worship and praise as well, too. Psalm 139 verse 7 and do 12. Yes, Psalm 139 verse 7 and 12, do 12. Praise God, Bobby. Thank you, brother. Praise God. David writes, the Psalmist, where can I go from your spirit? And where can I flee from your presence? If I ascend to heaven, you're there. If I make my bed and shield, behold, you are there. If I take the wings of the dawn, if I dwell in the remotest part of the sea, even there your hand will lead me and your right hand will lay hold of me. If I say, surely the darkness will not overwhelm me. Surely the darkness will overwhelm me and the light around me will be night. Even the darkness is not dark to you. And the night is as bright as the day. Darkness and light are a light to you. For you formed my inward parts and you wove me in my mother's womb, I would give thanks to you for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works. And my soul knows it very well. I might just read the rest. I feel like reading the rest. My friend was not hitting from you when I was made in secret and skillfully wrought in the depths of the earth. Your eyes have seen my unformed substance and in your book was written, were written, are written all the days that were ordained for me. When as yet there was not one of them. How precious are your thoughts to me? Oh God. That's praise, y'all. That's praise. How vast is the sum of them? If I should count them, they would outnumber the sand. When I awake, I am still with you. Praise the father, praise the son, praise the spirit. Three and one is the song says, right? But I can't let y'all off the hook. There's more blast for me. For seven and eight, he said, if thou therefore will worship me, I'll give you all this shall be yours. Jesus answered and said to him, what did he say? He said, get behind me, for it is written that thou shall worship who? The Lord God. And only him shall you serve. He said, we shall worship the Lord thy God. We know as many, I see that brother Stigler in there. So we know as many gods, right? As many guys in the Bible, right? So he said, thou shall worship the Lord thy God and only him shall thy serve. He didn't say you should serve him. Jesus said, I didn't come to be served, correct? He said, I didn't come to be served, but to serve. But people serve and they worship Jesus and he received worship. So how can you be perfect when you're going against what you're saying? You're saying that we're supposed to worship the Father, right? You shouldn't be receiving worship for yourself, correct? Wrong. I think we've already established that Christ is worthy of worship, otherwise the Jews would have been stoned for idolatry. And definitely Thomas for taking God's name in vain. But he didn't. He knew who Christ was. My Lord and my God is what Thomas said. And as we already mentioned, Jerry conceded to the fact that the Revelation chapter one verse eight clearly said who Jesus is, the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the one who was, the is, the is to come, the Almighty. He conceded to it. More blasphemy coming up. Now, what are we going to next? Should be going nowhere. Should go home. I think that's all I had. I wish you why you call me good. Only the Father is good. Only the Father. So how can you be perfect and not be good? And Hebrews chapter five verse nine, the Bible says that Jesus was being made perfect. He wasn't perfect. He had to be made perfect. He had to learn to be obedient. In this last one, I almost forgot what Jesus became subject to his parents, right? His parents. I just got to just say this. I got to say this, y'all. It gets worse before it goes away. And I'm just bracing y'all for what's to come. I don't want y'all to think that I'm making any of this stuff up. I don't want anybody to think that I'm trying to make somebody's head hurt on purpose. I am not. I am not. I'm just giving you all the information as it unfortunately came to me. So don't block me. Don't come looking for me. I'm just giving you all what this dude said and how this guy thinks and believes who Jesus is and what the Bible he thinks teaches regarding Christ's sinlessness and so forth. So just prepare yourself for this one. This is going to make you want to throw your phone or jump out the window. So here we go. Parents was looking for him. Matter of fact, I got it right here, Luke 251. When his parents was looking for him for three days, he went missing for three days. So right off the bat, if you leave your parents and it's three days and they got to come find you, how are you being obedient? How are you being obedient if you go missing for three days? Your parents don't know where you at. They scratching their head, asking everybody around, looking for you and you tell them you got to be about your father's business and they looking at you like you crazy. The Bible say his parents didn't even know what he was talking about. In Luke 251, it says, then he returned to Nazareth with them when they finally found him. Then he returned with them and was obedient to them. Some translations say he became subject to them, right? But his mother treasured all these things in her heart. So the Bible says when they found him, he became obedient. He was obedient. He became subject. So before he, before all it is, when he was lost, that mean he was what? If he became obedient when they found him, then that mean what you, you was being disobedient. If you, when they found you, you became obedient. That mean before that you was being disobedient. If you became subject, Luke 251. So there's no way to know whether Jesus was perfect or not, because we don't know what was in his head. My fault. Thank y'all. I'm sorry. Yeah, because yeah, I was saying that just when you thought it couldn't get any better or any worse than what it was, this guy, he, he outdoes himself. He outdoes himself. So let's go to Luke chapter two. I know. Yeah, I had muted myself for a minute. But yeah, yeah, even my mic didn't want to handle this. This is, this is what Luke chapter two verse, verse 46 to 52 say, let's go there. Luke two, 46 to 52. All right, let's look at it. Pray for me, Sheila. Pray for me. Luke records. Then after three days, they found him in the temple sitting at the midst of the teachers, both listening to them and asking them questions. All who heard him were amazed at his understanding and at his answers. When they saw him, when they saw them there, they were astonished. And his mother said to him, son, why have you treated us this way? Behold, your father and I have been anxiously looking, looking for you. He said to them, why is it that you were looking for me? Did you not know that I had to be in my father's house? But they did not understand the statement which he had made to them. And when he went down to them, went down with them, excuse me, to Nazareth and he continued in subjection to them and his mother treasured all these things in her heart. Where's the sin at y'all? I'm just trying to find what, see what happens again where people just insert what they want to insert into the text. He says, And Jesus kept increasing in wisdom and stature in favor with God and man. But he's not done y'all. He's about to say another blasphemous thing. So let me let you listen to him. Here comes the blasphemy. Y'all ready? Here we go. Nobody don't know what we think. The Bible say that God knows us from afar, but we don't know what was in Jesus head. 18 years of his life was, is missing from the Bible, right? So we don't even have no record of what he did, whether it's good or bad. We don't have your rap sheet. We don't have every temptation about we don't even have no record of what he did, whether it's good or bad. We don't have your rap sheet missing from the Bible, right? So we don't even have no record of what he did, Whether it's good or bad, we don't have your rap sheet. We don't, he did. Whether it's good or bad, we don't have your rap sheet. He did. Whether it's good or bad, we don't have your rap sheet. Somebody come get my wife, please. Bro, we need to go, listen, all of us need to go send Marcus Rodgers an apology. Yes, he does. He makes Marcus look like a saint. Oh, listen, listen. He sure does. He sure do. Yeah, he wants, yeah, he wants Jesus' criminal history. I mean, rap sheet, we don't have your rap sheet. That's what he said, y'all. I told you, I told you. As though God owes this man more than what he has already revealed to us. It's close to it, my pup. It's close, it's close. And you know what, if it is, I wouldn't even contest it. I wouldn't contest it, I wouldn't contest it. But let's look at some scriptures. Let's see what the word of God says about this quote unquote rap sheet. We don't have 18 years. Yeah, he ain't rapped too tight. He's definitely like a loose present. Is the rap sheet in red letters? Man, y'all are, listen, I've never asked, listen, I've never heard anybody ask Jesus for paperwork either. I never heard anybody ask Jesus for paperwork. Me either, y'all. Yes, he is merciful, but according to Jerry, according to Jerry's kids, he's not. He's not compassionate, he's not loving, he's cold-hearted. Yeah, he has to be, because he's definitely not a Christian. But let's look at some scriptures again. We're gonna review a couple of them right here, John chapter 20. I wanted to read it, I said it earlier verbally, but I don't know if I put it up on the screen. John chapter 20 verse 30 and 31. There are therefore many other things, or many other science, excuse me, Jesus also performed in the presence of his disciples, of the disciples, which were not written, which are not written in this book. But these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, that believing you may have life in his name. And when we talk about Son of God, we're talking about exactness. We're not talking about the Son like you and I. No, no, no. Son of God is somebody with the exact nature. They're in relationship with the Father. It's what John is referring to. John chapter 21, same book, verse 25. And there are also many other things which Jesus did. So there's 18 years right there. And there are also many other things which Jesus did, which if they were written in detail, in detail, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books which were written in them. This is what the Bible says. There were many things that Jesus did, Jerry, but the word of God says, Library of Congress, the Almanacs. Doesn't matter. Get the biggest library, we couldn't contain it all. And how do we know that? What we have is enough. Glad you all asked. Deuteronomy, chapter 29, verse 29 reads, the secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things revealed belong to us and our sons forever, that we may observe all the words of this law. Ain't that your business, Jerry? We have 33 years that our Lord walked on this terra firma and that is enough. He pleased the Father. He did everything perfectly and pleased the Father and all things and all things. But let's continue. We don't have every temptation. The Bible say he was tempted every way yet without sin, but we don't know whether he's sinned or not. That's just what they put in the book, but we don't have every temptation. I wanted to ask, who is they? Who is this they that he's talking about? Never mind, let's continue. A record of his temptation to know whether he's sinned or not, so that's just logic, right? So there's no way to know whether he's sinned or not. Foolishness. And these the issues that are just raised are other reasons why I would say, oh, I forgot to give y'all John chapter seven versus eight through 10. Oh, this gets worse, y'all. Hold on. John chapter seven. Y'all thought y'all heard enough when he called Jesus alive before. He's gonna go two for two. Versus eight. Maybe I lost count. 10. Now Jesus said, he told his brothers, he said, y'all go up to the feast. I am not yet going up to this feast for my time has not yet fully come, right? That's verse eight. Drop down to verse 10. But when his brothers had gone up, then he also went up with them. He also went up to the feast, not openly, but as it were in secret. So in verse eight, Jesus said he wasn't going to the feast, correct? He just said in verse eight. He just said in verse eight, bro. He said, you go up to the feast. I'm not going to the feast. He just said verse eight. Now, when you drop down to verse 10, when his brothers left, he also went up to the feast and he did it secretly. So what is that? I mean, we would call it, we would say somebody lied if you just said that you, the Bible say, let your yea be yea and your nay be nay. Right? He didn't do that. He didn't do that. It's another verse that you can look up what Jesus told Mary to go tell his brothers that he was ascending to the Father. But let me stop right there because I wanted to hear the part where he just called Jesus a liar. So what is that? I mean, we would call it, we would say somebody lied if you just said that you, the Bible say, let your yea be yea and your nay be nay. Right? So let's deal with the text. I need to finish this up. Let's go ahead and go to the text. John chapter seven, right? John seven? Context is everything, ladies and gentlemen. And I'm going to start at verse one. John chapter seven, verse one to 10. John seven, one through 10. Yes, here we go. After these things, Jesus was walking in Galilee for he was unwilling to walk in Judea because the Jews were seeking to kill him. Now the feast of the Jews, the feast of booths were near, was near. Therefore his brothers said to him, leave here and go into Judea so that your disciples also may see your works which you are doing. For no one does anything in secret when he himself seeks to be known publicly. If you do these things, show yourself to the world. For not even his brothers were believing in him. So Jesus said to them, my time is not yet here, but your time is always opportune. The world cannot hate you, but it hates me because I testify of it that its deeds are evil. Go up to the feast yourselves. I do not go up to this feast because my time has not yet fully come. Verse nine, having said these things to them, he stayed in Galilee, but when his brothers had gone up to the feast, then he himself also went up, not publicly, but as if in secret. Now he just, Jerry's kid discharged Jesus with lying. That's a very blasphemous thing to do. Calling Jesus a liar. Let's look at the context and see why Jesus said what he said and then why he did what he did. Ashley, you're gonna have to watch the replay, sister. You're gonna have, yeah, you're definitely late. We about to wrap this up. You got to watch the replay, my sister. Again, verse one, because it's obvious he does not know context. Verse one, after these things, Jesus was walking in Galilee for he was unwilling to walk in Judea. And where was the feast at? Where was the feast? Verse three, therefore his brother said to him, leave here and go into Judea. Why didn't Jesus want to go into Judea at the time? Verse one, he was unwilling to walk in Judea because the Jews were seeking to kill him. That's why. Now the feast of the Jews, feast of the booths was near. Therefore his brother said to him, leave here and go into Judea so that your disciples also may see your works, which you are doing. For no one does anything in secret when he himself seeks to be known publicly. If you do these things, show yourself to the world. His brothers are telling, his own brothers are telling him to go into Judea and Jesus says, no, my time is not yet to come. Not going yet. It wasn't that he wasn't gonna go. It was just not his time to go. And again, God is the one. Jesus is the one who determines what he's going to do. Verse five, for not even his brothers were believing in him. So Jesus said to them, my time is not yet here, but your time is always opportune. The world cannot hate you, but it hates me because I testify of it. That is, these are evil. Go up to the feast yourselves. I do not go up to this feast because my time has not fully, has not yet fully come. Having said these things to them, he stayed in Galilee, but when his brothers had gone, notice, when his brothers had gone up to the feast, verse 10, but when his brothers had gone up to the feast, then he himself also went up, not publicly, but as if in secret. Why did he go in secret? Verse 11, so the Jews were seeking him at the feast and were saying, where is he? Why were they saying, where was he? Verse one, because the be clause, the Jews were seeking to kill him. One commentator writes this, John chapter, let's look at John seven, let's see. The reason why they see it that way, he's talking about in the text, he says, for even his brothers did not believe in him. It is certain that they did not see in him the Messiah who was to prove himself as such by means of suffering in the cross. Their Messianic conception was in a sense similar to that of the crowd, which had partaken of the bread cakes. It was thoroughly earthly, excuse me, materialistic. Strictly speaking, it does not even follow that these brothers took Jesus to be the Messiah in any sense whatsoever, whatever. The story merely shows that they were charging him with inconsistency and that they in common with so many others, harbor secular ideas with reference to the coming in office of the Messiah. After Christ's resurrection, the attitude of these brothers changed completely. Jesus said to them, for me, the proper time is not yet here. But for you, the time is always suitable. The world cannot hate you, but it hates me because I testify concerning it that it's works a wicked. Jesus then said to them, for the proper time is not yet here, but you, the time is always suitable. Jesus speaks about the proper time and distinction, and the coordinator's distinction has not entirely vanished. He says that the proper moment has not yet arrived for him. However, the question may be asked, the proper moment to do what? To go up to the feast or to manifest himself to the world. The preceding context permits either interpretation. And however, the succeeding context permits only one explanation. When Jesus says in verse 6b, but for you, the time is always suitable. Literally, your proper time is always ready. He can only mean you can go up to the feast at any time. Therefore, it is certainly very probable that also in verse 6a, what he means is this, for the proper time to go up to the feast is not yet here. This conclusion is also in harmony with verse 8, where regardless of the reading, one adopts whether Jesus speaks twice about going up to the feast. Hence, verse 6 definitely shows that for every deed and action of the Lord, not only for his death on the cross, there is a definite moment determined from all eternity and the plan of God. The will of Jesus being in complete accord with his eternal counsel of God, he naturally waits for the proper moment to arrive. He wasn't lying. For the brothers of Jesus were no such, there were no such considerations. They had no such conscious contact with the clock of God's eternal counsel. Besides, they were as yet unbelievers. Hence Jesus says, but for you, the time is always suitable. When the further question is asked, namely why is it that Jesus delayed going up to the feast? The answer probably lies in this direction. He had gone up at once with the first comers. There would have been ample time for the Sanhedrin to plan his arrest at this time. So as to put him to death now, but Jesus knew that his death as the Lamb of God must take place at the time of the next Passover, not during this feast of Tabernacle. Hence he delays. This explanation is very simple and suits the entire context. However, a real difficulty has been created by reading not instead of not yet in verse eight. We are then confronted with this puzzle. Jesus says, I go not up until this feast. Example from the authorized version. He says, yet a little later, he goes up. He does go up in verse 10. Once having established this as the reading to be followed, all kinds of explanations are attempted. According to some, when Jesus said, I go not up, he meant I am not going up in order to manifest myself as the Messiah that I will do at the later feasts. According to others, verse eight must be interpreted on this fashion. I am not going up publicly, but secretly. These commentators appeal to verse 10. Still others believe that Jesus changed his mind or that the Father changed his mind for him. All of these unnatural explanations can be avoided by simply adopting for this verse, the reading upon which the authorized version is based. I go not up yet until this feast. The textual evidence is about equal. The context versus six, nine and 10 is certainly all in favor of the reading which has not yet instead of not. Jesus has already indicated verse six that the proper time to attend the feast has not yet arrived for him. Hence having said these things, he remained a little while longer in Galilee but after his brothers had gone up, he does go up. Also, in this context, the reading not yet in verse eight fits beautifully. Why create a difficulty where there is no need for one? There certainly are problems enough in exegesis without creating additional ones. Y'all get the point? I hope y'all get the point. And I'm belaboring this point because it's important. You know, my wife and I were accused of being heretics because we're quote unquote Calvinists and what I call Calvinism heresy. No, this is heresy here. This is the kind of stuff that we need to be exposed and calling out. This right here. One last segment and I'll let y'all go. He didn't do that. He didn't do that. It's another verse that you can look up where Jesus told Mary to go tell his brothers that he was ascended to the father but he told him first he said, don't touch me because I have not yet ascended. He said, don't touch me because I have not yet ascended. But he said, go tell my brothers that I have ascended. All right. I think that's in Mark chapter Matthew Mark. I think it's in Mark 16. No, draw John 20. Yeah. Yeah. He says that might be in John chapter 20. Yeah. John chapter 20, boy, sure. 2017. Thank you, Sharpe, don't you? Look, peep this. He told Mary not to cling to him, right? Don't touch me. Don't cling to me because I have not yet ascended to my father. But what do you say? He said, go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my father and to your father and to my God and your God. So Jesus did not say he was God. He said that he was going to God, correct? I want you to peep how he told Mary, do not cling to me in verse 17. He said, he told Mary, don't hold on to him. But when you go down to verse 27, he said, he tell Thomas, you could touch me. You could put your fingers here and you could, you know what I'm saying? You can grab me. You can lay hold of me. Touch me this and that and the third. But in verse 17, he told the women not to, not to cling to him, right? But it's just the fact that he told, he said that he was ascending to the father. He said, I am ascending to the father. First he said, go tell my brethren that I am ascending to the father. But then he say, I have not yet ascended to the father. But we know that Jesus didn't ascend until after he commissioned the disciples. After he ascended, after he met up with them, that's when he ascended. So that's another verse that's real suspect. So that's all I have for y'all tonight. Peace out. Thank y'all for tuning in. Salute. Okay, so that's it, right? I just wanted y'all to hear all of that. So now, but notice the hypocrisy. He said that Jesus ascended and that he ascended, that he ascended later, sorry, this year. So he said that Jesus ascended later, but you don't believe that Jesus is God. So why would he ascended? Why would he go anywhere? If you deny who he is. And again, that's the whole point as well, right? So just wanna touch on one part because I wanna make sure that we're not, we're not doing any injustice to the scriptures, right? So John chapter 20, he says about the ascension of Christ saying, I'm ascending, but I have not yet ascended. Not a problem. When he mentions that, he didn't say that he's ascending right now. He's about to ascend. Go tell my disciples and Peter what I'm about to do. That's all he was saying. And in fact, one commentator writes this, and we'll shut it down from here. Both Mary Magdalene and the other women receive a message to be conveyed to the 11. But while the other women must tell the men what has happened, he is risen from the dead and where Jesus will meet them, he is going before you to Galilee, there you will see him. Mary must announce to them what great event in the history of redemption is about to take place. I ascend to my father. What Mary must say to them as Christ's message for them is this, I ascend, it is about to happen. It is certain to happen, hence present tense to my father and your father and to my God and your God. Jesus makes a distinction here and at the same time emphasizes the closeness of fellowship between himself, his father and the disciples. The distinction is clearly evident from this that he does not say I am ascending to our father. His sonship differs from theirs, hence he says to my father and to your father. For this distinction, he is son by nature, they are sons by adoption. Nevertheless, the commentator writes, nevertheless, the closeness of fellowship is also stressed, the same God who is the father of Jesus is also the father of the disciples. And we already know Jesus is God, the disciples, those who came in contact with him worshiped him as God. That is the point. Didn't wanna go this long, two hours and 16 minutes. I'm gonna go ahead and just wrap this up. Sorry for the brutal listening of this video and even some of the interaction that I had with Joe. We need to pray that this man gets saved before it is too late. And like I said at the beginning, I remember talking to this man over 10 years ago. He was at one time a Christian, but it's evident based on 1 John 219 that he went out because he was not of us. Because had he been of us, he would have remained. Paul says no one who was born of God practices sin. John said that, excuse me. But Paul says no one says about his spirit that Jesus is accursed. Nobody says that. If you're of God, we affirm the things that God says. It's clearly evident, unfortunately, that this man does not belong to God. We need to pray for his soul and pray for his salvation before it is too late. And I say that with all seriousness. I know we were laughing and joking and things of that nature, but when people's lives are at death's door and they don't even realize it, we too could be there but for the grace of God. So we need to pray for that young man. We need to pray for him. But anyway, thank you, those of you who have stayed with me this long, moderates thank you for sticking it out with me and holding the chat room down. We definitely appreciate, I definitely appreciate you. Thank you all for the super chats. Thank you all for the prayers and support again. 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