 I hope they'll come away with some inspiration and some hope and remember that that you personally can learn something new every day it's try but you can make a better version of yourself a little bit at a time every day and I think you should I think we need you we need everybody we need all the brain power we can get to try to fix the issues of our industry and get better software out there when you want to motivate people yeah yeah because it's it's easy to lose that you know I mean a lot of us got into software development for the joy of solving technical problems you know you're faced with something it's all it's really tricky how am I going to do this how can I integrate these things together and use that library and come up with this new algorithm and you know whatever it might be and in a lot of cases we still get to do that but in a lot of organizations they become kind of ticket factories joyless ticket factories and you know that's that's not fun and that's a hard environment to work in and you know to get into flow like doctor me hi to send me hi described it you need a problem that is engaging enough it can't be so hard that it's hopeless but it can't be so easy that it's boring like well add this field to the database same as ever so you need something that's challenging enough but that you're able to do it and you know really be able to put your your whole energy into it and learn something from it that's the best environment possible and that's the kind of stuff that we try to promote and try to see organizations enable so that as a developer you get to learn new things you get to improve your skills and get better at it and get the team better at it and ultimately get the organization better at doing what they do and growing their capabilities