 What is up, everybody? How are we doing? How are we doing out there in lovely CRT land? How are you all? Welcome back. Hope you are doing well. Thought I'd come back for a second day of the streaming today, so please, if you don't mind, do me a favor and hit the like button for me so that everybody will know we're live right now. Got the jazz jamming, got the studio set up, and we got the people rolling in. Smasher Josh, Mark Robertson first. Thank you, Mark. Mumful, welcome in. Tony Escobar, welcome back. Chris Broom, Rummy Raisin. Thank you for coming. Steven Norton, Chris Broom, NDPX, Role Pats, the great John Zini. Welcome, everybody, and thank you, Belmont. Congratulations. Congratulations on making it here to this morning and doing whatever you're doing out there. Maybe it's evening. I see some people say it's evening, so let me just chill out. What I've been doing is a bit of, say, stuff over here. You'll see you'll see on this desk view, which maybe if I open the camera lens that will help. There we go. Right over there. We completely opened up the back side of a Sony PVM 20.05 right there. Right there for you. Anyway, I did have a little bit more chat with the owner, Steven Norton, I think. He's still in here. Chris Steward, welcome. And so this PVM does have some issues, which I really wasn't familiar with, and to be completely honest with you, the issues that this has are, unfortunately, these are some of those that are darn near impossible to figure out and diagnose. But there's always the chance that going through the regular restoration process clears things up. I don't know if it will. So what we've got here is I has been able to, yesterday you saw me tear this down. It did work fine, right? Well, it worked mostly. We didn't take a strong close look at things, but it was working. Toured Apart took out the deflection board yesterday and then decapped it. So we're going to, hey Ronnie, welcome back. We're going to, let me see here what's going on with this. I just had a random music this morning. So anyway, decapped it, recapped both those deflection cards, reflowed the solder, cleaned them all up, and then I've reinstalled them. I did run a test on that. And then finally after I let it run, two things happened. I went to the all white screen and I did see that after like everything, there was a brief second where the screen goes like on the right side, especially goes red for a second. And then it comes back to normal. Now I do notice, I do notice that on this particular PVM, the yoke ring for purity has been adjusted and it's off a little bit. And so you do have a green hue on one edge and a red hue on the opposite edge of the PVM. So that's something that's got to be reset that hopefully will help. I just got done reflowing all the solder on this board, which is the neck board. And it needs to be cleaned yet, but it does have fresh solder on everything. And this is, well, this could be an issue. I'll tell you why. When I actually reflowed the solder on this, almost all the solder points that had old solder on it popped like when I put fresh solder on it because it was pretty lousy solder on there. So that's a good sign too. You know, there's a possibility that it wasn't getting the right flow of voltage. And then here's the second thing. There was a like brief power surge thing where the screen when it was on all white after being on it for about two minutes on all white, it powered off real quick and just came immediately back on like it wasn't even enough to be a full down power screen just came out and went back on. Now that shows me that the main board, which I have yet to service, I've pulled it. But that needs to be serviced because there's a power interruption issue. And that's generally a sign that the power block needs to be recapped. So that recapping normally fixes that kind of an issue as well as servicing this the neck board. And this neck board is good. It's got extra diodes on here, which were changed for the it's got like a later revision on here of that. Now let me see down here. Because I didn't do that one. There's a spot on here where it looks to be. So that's the problem you get some people in here working on a couple of things and you never can tell. But anyway, there's a spot on here, which I don't believe some should be touching it wasn't a part that I actually replaced on there. Anyway, so I'm working on that. I've also got good news because KaiTor's bracket right here is we're going to switch this out. The other ones got some dodgy bits on it. We'll look at that. It's kind of funny. I've never seen anybody repair or attempt to repair something in that manner on a PVM. So again, just chill out. We're going to let the stream get rolling here. We're going to continue working on this PVM 2005. And like I said, it does work. We're going to just do our best to hopefully get it back to as close to fixed position as possible. And it may be something I'm thinking like it's having an issue where it's trying to balance out the colors and there's maybe a voltage surge in that yoke. So let's hope that we can recap that power block and work in that area and hopefully that will fix things. Now it still looks really great when you're using it. I wasn't actually able to notice it till Steven pointed it out and I watched a white screen for a long time that there was even really an issue with it. So that's where I'm at with it again. L5. This is the neck board. That's what I was doing off camera getting ready. And then what I'd like to start with those KaiTor's bracket. Yeah, I don't know about that pad always anytime something weird pad will say it's a tube short. I've had him say that to me on a D20 before and it was the PA board. There was nothing wrong with the tube. It was literally the PA board had some shot on it and I couldn't fix it. So I got a replacement PA board in here, swapped them out and it worked perfectly. If it is an issue it could be it could I mean he knows more than I do though, but still if it's a tube short, that would surprise me. Cole's down here. VGA quality PlayStation 2 actually I've not used a VGA. I usually use just component just because it's easier. All right. I mean anything's possible with a CRT that's the crazy thing about them, right? Okay Cole we ready to get some work done? All right everybody we're gonna get started here, right? Go back over there. The first thing we're going to do as I tease today, I do have a tube analyzer. So let's hope we don't have to get to that point and fix it, but I don't really think that it's a short on the tube because I don't I don't know. I mean I guess that would totally tell us. Problem is I need somebody to send me the pen. Actually I can probably get the pen out for that tube. If somebody knows how to send it and wants to send it to me for that too, we could do that too. Jake welcome back, plate fork. All right so let me switch over here give you guys overhead view and then we'll set that camera up. So the green thing I saw on was on mostly the left hand side and that was but I didn't see it like turn green. I just saw it turn white and then it would turn like a little red hue and then back to white. I didn't see it turn green. The only green thing I saw was where I could tell the yoke is off adjustment wise. All right looks like I closed out all the music. Let's switch over here to desktop mode and I'll have to pull that music back up because I didn't realize I just closed it out without even thinking. Okay so this is our dboard which again everybody saw yesterday. Just get that in there and I don't know how much I'll have to actually do on here. So this is the dboard this is what it normally comes in is this bracket right here okay so there's the dboard we fixed up yesterday right and let's see if I can at least make it look less crooked I can't I'm having some problems with this camera arm today. Sorry guys let's do that there we go that's a little better. So this is the standard arm that comes in it so we'll move this out of the way again the service board on here this is the original bracket and it's got some compromised areas over in here so we're going to remove everything and we're going to repopulate this in a fresh bracket. Okay so that's what we're going to do first we're going to we're going to move all this over and put it in to this fresh bracket especially since it's all serviced and we'll even re screw screw in the boards I'll show you how to do all that right now because it's pretty easy you pop out literally every piece from this and we're going to look closer at this broken one. So let me go in here and again jazz central let's just play the jazz playlist are you gonna play there we go all right all right everybody let's do it now okay I'm gonna change one thing on the camera real quick there we go and you can see the same view kind of that I have right here so this is the D2 board this is the D2 board uh it can just pop out like this and like this same thing on the other side it's just got a couple of inductors on it nothing really much to this connection with two isolated inductors right there okay and that goes in the back we just took that off like this okay so set that there now we need to get all these little pieces of plastic out there out of there and we'll need a set of needle nose pliers will do this job best and you'll notice they're actually swapped and they have to be put the same way back in the next one as we're going to take them out here put them in the same way but go around to the back side and we just pinch these plastic backs and push them through the holes just like that everything even the cable clips you're gonna want it all to squeeze it together and release the pressure and then push it once you get them squeezed in push it a little bit and then push it with your needle nose pliers like that pretty easy just like that there we go we've got this right here for our fly back and then that okay oh everything's going everywhere we'll look at that again in a second lovely tuesday still working on that last cup of coffee here anybody else out there yes sir let's go and look at our replacement bracket all right i'm just looking at this so it's going to go in there like that that's the way it needs to sit because that goes all right just making sure i didn't mess anything up there we go all right so let's see these go that way so to put them back in here we just slip them in and they'll just snap right in there we go that's it just make sure you haven't it's pointing the right direction this lovely bracket i'll show you the nail here in a second when we get this put back together there was a nail bracing that thing together which is kind of an odd thing so then we'll just slip this board right back in here look at that fits perfectly right let's hope so there we go there we go looks good okay excellent and that's how that board goes there and then we had this guy leave this pointing down it wouldn't be pointing out this pointing sideways and i've got sitting in there wrong yep i'm gonna spin it that guys just don't want to stick back in there this is not a really important part if you can't get it to go back big deal but let's see if we can get it to bend back out a little bit see that way or is it actually probably gonna go this way just to make it easier to snap see it's not wanting to go in there well maybe that one's too thick let's see if we can get the uh yeah so that's an issue where i'm not actually able to get some of these to go back now it's not the actual clip ones it's this other plastic that one fits a little better that one went down in there good yes i could just put it this way you know it's lame all right try one more time to bend it all out no it's just not it's not like it's too thick this is too thin the lip on there anyway let's upgrade sauce that's it for that part and now this end slips right in here so that's interesting he got rid of the other clip or this is an earlier prototype i don't remember or excuse me and anyway that's it there are three screws that go in here one does not go up here you don't put ones there's a mounting hole there but you never put a screw in this hole i don't know why it was designed like that but even sony didn't put a screw in that that corner that's not a full corner the other three that are actual corners get the screws there's that screw one more so it's kind of the tricky one to get in there when you have fat fingers like this fat fingers fixed it don't let fat fingers stop you that's what i say all right that's it now we can go replace this when we're done servicing the other boards and just slip this board in there and it'll just connect to the cabling and that'll be all we need to do and this bundle of wires can honestly come from there and come up here and then we can use this hook that hook is really not in vital at all there's a cable holder there cable holder here cable holder down here or over here down here and we can really use just a regular clip to bundle those wires without that back end it's not any problem and then there's one screw that is left in this kit and that's going to go to the mount right here it's going to go in this hole let's look at that other bracket that i've replaced now let a bit of weaponry first what do you guys think of this thing how's everybody doing out there quiet tuesday lovely wild things happening still got some videos coming got some videos are working on um my haven't had time to work on them but i need to sit down and just edit them i've got them loaded on the pc from zezz's trip that's going to be all good and fun yes that's what i thought it happened this is a very interesting way to repair plastic there's official metal prongs that you're supposed to use and do this with and there's a tool that actually melts the metal and the plastic together and leaves these pieces of metal in here what has happened is the bracket broke snapped at some point right here on that side you can tell sorry focus and as you look over here look at that that to reinforce which is better than i guess nothing right of course but to reinforce that plastic they've got a nail kind of melted into the plastic here after the super glue i'm guessing or epoxy was used to fix it and then there's like that's kind of odd this is a solder break like a literal piece of solder wick right you can tell that's just a piece of solder braid where it looks to me like this person stuck there um the tip of their soldering iron they just pushed this piece of solder braid here and they just went it melted that in like that and that's how they did it which i've never seen anybody do that up here is another one let's look at it looks like it's got a nail in there too under the tape we'll see all right so here we go it's just a friendly reminder if you want to get any work done to your cdr you know crt as far as restoration services to your pvm that is available through retro tech patreon it's gross i think that's a hair on there maybe not maybe that's just tape seal anyway you can do so by heading over to the retro tech patreon page i also do have a pvm for sale over there it's the restored one from the streams a couple weeks ago a 1340 pvm it's in fantastic shape so if you're looking for a 13 inch pvm it's fully restored you check out that on patreon also okay uh this just snapped here and same deal thank you belmont uh same deal melted solder thread or sorry just solder wick and then another nail interesting i wonder like if this was who did this and i mean if it's weird to me i guess the the nail is a hard piece and then interesting so that's the bracket that's the old one i didn't want to leave it like this it also was a little bit leaning which makes sense when you put the weight on it it was flexing well see there it snapped you see it didn't take very much pressure for me to put that on there to just have that thing snapped and that's what i was worried about that didn't even look at that that braid just snapped just like that a little bit of pressure a little bit of torque and all kinds of stuff right right yeah actually the the 1340 that is for sale was supposed to be called or like somebody had been on a wait to have it finished and then they decided they didn't want to buy it after they'd picked up a different crt in the meantime so now it's ready if anybody wants it's ready to go but this is not square at all see how that i mean that's really like leaning and that's very nasty so definitely won't want to use that anymore there we go all right so while we're overhead let's finish cleaning i want to clean this board i also wanted to look at that spot here maybe i can use some solder braid and get rid of get rid of my concern don't think this is probably causing the problem but just want to make sure everything's good so right here this is not a part i installed or changed but i believe this cap kit or this was i this was repaired by maybe we salvaged from pat you see that there's you probably can't see it but there's a there's some solder that's jumped from this over to this resistor i want to clear that out in between those two parts and the best way to do that is probably use the solder wick if that was even in there let me see i might have just scraped it off goodness scratched right off that's might not have even you know it's still down there i think yeah i don't i just don't want it to bridge so i can reflow the solder on these parts i don't know that that was even an issue but i didn't want to have you don't want to have anything bridging or shorting out like that that's just some points in between there that we're almost touching anyway you can tell that's been fully reflowed on solder there's been caps replaced the resistor's been replaced just needs to be cleaned and this was replaced which is why i think maybe that you know it's his 1405 too right here so i think steven told me he bought this maybe as a replacement board from pat so makes sense it's been serviced with his kit just there was it wasn't fully serviced as far as the board's concerned like i go through and reflow all the solder i've seen a couple times for that bracket we were looking at has been undamaged but it's not very often but a couple times i have seen it let's have some cleaning here we go and in here and clean this board a little bit closer view since this is a smaller board so when i reflow solder on a board like this i reflow solder on every point that has a through hole component okay i don't re solder the solder on the surface mount components on this side that solder doesn't get reflowed i don't reflow solder on the points that hold that hold no parts or that hold heat sinks because that's pointless too so none of that but the other points i do believe all of them deserve fresh solder on this board pretty good gonna here and clean this then we'll come back and clean that spot again give it a little rub getting there it's gonna take a few cleanings it's got build up of build up of flux residue what's up osse well come in everybody no it's been kind of a chill quiet day but that's all right i just was back in the shop working figured i'd turn the camera on hang out with everybody while i was doing it so if you're here and you haven't done so yet please drop a like it does help to let other people know that we're going live now and if you've already done that thank you very much and even if you're watching the like replay a couple hours later it's all right you still drop a like and help it out i'm just gonna get a lot of this stuff out can't really hurt it with this brush and the alcohol so don't worry too much about you know hurting it while you're cleaning it if you're using this method and stuff it should be good like to do that and then take that towel and put it over there rub it a little bit just something that i have been fascinated with recently is how many items are being pulled from streaming libraries and are no longer available to buy on print that aren't even that old like movies or tv shows things that are basically modern versions of somewhat lost media and it's interesting to me i feel like sometimes these things disappear so they can be re-released obviously down the road in some form or fashion but i also think that a lot of these things are going to be just harder and harder to find for a while and to try to get away from physical media which is disappointing but i don't think you know who did do the things well you know if there's anything anything that should have seemed to be not printed in physical media form anymore it it seems like it would be books right literature books books in general yeah books did a really good job of like fighting back against somehow like kindles every other type of device that was developed for replacing the physical book copies and you can still go and find big book stores all over the place i mean even my town has a Barnes and Noble and other book stores it's like books somehow beat the physical you know the craze of well we're going physical media only no people still want books they still want physical books and i think that's how the only way we can defeat that was the same approach that book people did when when they were threatening to take the books away i guess so just using kindles i don't know how they did it but they maintained a whole industry around printing physical copies of books and you don't really hear about that now you just hear about movies and video games disappearing well i understand that but i mean you still got modern day book stores that you can go in and find i mean it's still a place you can walk into a store or go on amazon and find a paperback or hardback copy of something if you want it now i'm not saying everybody i'm sure that people do use kindles fine but they've still not it's not like where you're not going to walk into like Barnes and Noble and they're going to say yeah we got rid of our book section i don't think i mean maybe one day i will but i do think that there's something to be said for that industry and how they've been able to maintain some semblance through it all i mean every form of traditional retail eventually probably will fade away right all these stores that we were used to for 20 30 years are probably going to disappear from what they were like when we were using them at least because you know you know change or evolve or die in the business world kind of in that kind of an environment so you'd still expect these stores to be innovative and change but that's a store that i think that's making the majority of its revenue still from physical media yeah this one's been burned up before so this one's had a short happen to it look at that that's a different resistor it's definitely a different resistor replaced but you can see where there's a black you can see that black burnout spot right there see that this is a rebuilt neckboard i guess probably if you bought it from pat sorry it's getting extra blurry there for a second we're on the uh rogers 8 bit esquire stream for a second sorry about that but that resistor right there where my cotton swab is is burned up or not the resistor just there's a burn spot on the board where one of the resistors burned up so it was definitely uh had a short present in it at some point and so if it was a replacement board it means it fried and was repaired which i make sense that this was replaced this ic because if that shorts it will fry that resistor right there so yeah and i showed that i don't remember whenever we were working on that other one we we did i show that recently recent stream talking about 20 l fives or something i can't remember i did that on another stream recently where i showed those things popping like popped three or four times it's good see how much cleaner that is now you can take this other brush and if you get a like a dust coating which can happen from dust and then dried up alcohol especially if you're using not 99 percent you just do this and get a nice non-conductive brush coming up again this is looking good and again i'm just gonna make sure that nothing the real important thing here is make sure there's nothing bridges etc that wasn't supposed to i mean i'm i'm not saying that there's not supposed to be some kind of continuity between these parts but that's definitely been cleaned up with that solder wick okay the final board is this board hey james thanks running yeah i think that if you're wanting to look like a really practical idea for physical media at this point is to go to thrift stores almost any of them and hunt for good um good quality still good conditioned dvd copies because you can still get them for cheap pretty much i went and bought five dvds yesterday for ten dollars some of them are really good shape like i said some of the movies aren't even in print anymore thank you video game gunny so i really hey joris it would be funny to try to read a book on a crt and e-book so that's what i would hope is um physical media doesn't go away but at the same time i mean it's going to probably what we need to do is figure out what we can do about it personally what we and i see that as being cheap option going and getting dvds still good quality too on them you can find full screen and widescreen full screen full screen dvds are great of course for playing back on crt's right so that's another one you can usually find or a bunch of full screen dvds to enjoy on crt's if you want with this board i do like to go through and reflow solder and this cap kit's going to get pretty wicked up in here see one of the caps i probably need to get to is under that big gloop garbage see that i mean it's just right there right it's like the other leg this is connected to it's funny enough there we go look at that it doesn't take much to pull that junk off all right cool that's what i have to do i do have to get to that leg so out of way we can put some fresh solder on that leg here we go warm up the iron cool nothing like a spam call in the middle of the show really loving things up i probably should just answer it but it would have been a recording 624 good see that's this big one this one's got to be changed mark you're the one doing the really smart thing right there no it doesn't you don't have to collect dvds or movies or anything it's just a good example of something that um is literally kind of disappearing before our eyes or changing maybe is a better word to say i don't feel like it's disappearing it's being stored in a vault let's go through here let me get my list 634 so i'm there for sure which was the one i just reflowed all these over here are in it go to get closer i bet you do right there we go don't fall asleep on me now make probably your coal there we go that's all the capacitors down in there which is one two three four five six that's a bit dicey right there seven eight nine six five eight is that on the list yes six five eight nine so i mean we're almost six three two is that on the list no six five eight is six five six over here right off camera sorry about that one down there okay the bottom of your screen 1603 there's some over here 1601 508 right that's about it for the kit want to make sure everything is right okay for solder jenny if our 301 on hand we're gonna fire it up there we go so here's an interesting thing i was thinking he's bringing up the t1000 and the liquid the liquid metal look that was actually thanks to the scene in the abyss where the water formulated a face from what i understand that's where james cameron got that technique that was first to use there which is pretty nuts the water becomes a face to like talk to try to communicate with them on the ship it's the alien or whatever and then anyway that scene they use the technology from that to make the t1000 right or the right isn't that who we're talking about here the terminator i forgot to solder one thing that one the abyss i actually had to buy that one on bhs to get the right version and another one that i can't really find i don't know if it's been you can find old prints of it i'm sure but i found it at the thrift store for 50 cents on the whatever super long edition tape the tape the movies it's got 30 minutes of scenes that are extra are cut out it's pretty ridiculous amount of extras i think that's again it's like nostalgic stuff jake right it's like uh back when movies were good it's like it's like this it's like when games are good when anything i mean everybody has their opinions on their time and what they prefer personally and that's why it works out and that's partially the reason everybody's so always so cooked up and crazy about nostalgia nostalgia for examples but everything is on the nostalgia wavelength trying to get back to whatever it was that you are you liked sometimes you just gotta use the uh needle nose pliers to get these out but i don't have them on the hands right now so let's see if we do it so there we go 53.3 53.3 that should be c662 yes that's the right one put my cup here the caps out all right 662 is out a half mark there and once it's replaced open a full mark on the list nostalgia can make you nostalgia can make you do a lot of things right almost do a lot of things and then you're like what am i gonna do am i really gonna drive an hour and a half to get a black and white tv or something then i don't even plan on using i've done stuff like that sorry if that's not on the screen i'm trying to keep it on the screen 25 47 c 6 11 which is that's ridiculous it's 25 we'll up that one to a 50 volt 47 on the replacement not a hundred volts okay let's get that one in the middle of those two but i bet by the end of the year let's say i mean it's 2024 this seems to be a relatively recent thing that's happening with these kind of movies going out of been out of print and then being pulled from streaming services over whatever rights etc uh it's happening with games too like in the steam store that aren't available anymore i've got one coming that i bought this week too and uh let's just see how that progresses towards the end of this year i think we're going to find that's going to be a lot more common place for 2025 then because we're going to be used to this is a day this is a year where it's a lot of this stuff is going to become by the end of the year i wonder how many things are going to be on a list of not really available like they used to be we're about to have i'm going to turn the background music up for you a little bit as i work through this because you're about to have some disturbance on the microphone so i'm going to turn the mics down a little bit it's going to be crazy if what i see happening is it's going to be really certain things are going to get released to physical media but it'll be interesting to see like like i said what if what if physical books being printed lasts longer than video games being printed on something think about that 616 is on the other page 50 volt 2.2 right excellent 50 volt 2.2 see what this one is 5100 5100 there it is there you go see that's a good thing phantasm like comic books are a good point but there's and there's still the weird thing about comic books is there's a huge collectability thing still going on in that sphere you still have comic books that will come out and they are a lot less printed than they were obviously in the 90s and stuff and then they become hot people want to buy them and since they're limited you'll have comic books that of course you can read um and there's such a second printings and etc like that but those first printing sometimes are hugely collectible so they'll always be a physical form of that so the hell wants to pay for just reading the i mean if you if you're just in it for the stories then okay you just read them sure most people that are in the comic books are into reading them and collecting them i was into that for a little bit too even more in the modern times like within the last 10 years i've been ventured down that rabbit hole 661 5047 excellent that's five caps out and we've got nine to go no one two three six caps out from that i miss 661 six or six i didn't mark okay so yeah six caps out eight to go two more in the power block and we'll couple in the transition blocks c624 oh 609 nope that's the right one 609 i thought i was like what in the world so that's 609 sorry that's why always check your work just the front page left let's get this one out right here that too much hassle to reflow solder on that point if we get that guy out now so that one's definitely cooked so there's a good sign steve steve norton if you're still there this is a good sign i mean this could this cap and this could have been that power surge that i saw this cap is cooked okay there's residue coming out it it's leaking it's a power cap filter 50 volt 220 yes there's probably off the charts on that thing a bunch of fried crap down in there under it so it's proof that you can't be intimidated by things like a diode in your way you need to remove that crap a tour so that was 50 20 to 20 624 that's the one i was looking for before 624 under the diode all right and when i replace that cap i'll just redo that diode leg right there no problem not a problem and we need to get some out of this area and this is the trick with this one is you've got to get this big resistor out of the way see that big resistor that's got to go let me turn my mic back up there we go back to reality back to the reality hear that that's like barely enough room it's normally that's funny normally actually i have to forgot i have to get the other that's the time i have to get the other nozzle out for this all right let's see if i can get that out of there i might have to get the other it's it's generally there we go so this has to come out let me put it back we'll put that back because it's the part's not bad but i can't get that cap under it without getting getting that removed and there's no way i mean unless you have tiny tiny tim tiny tim's hands tiny timmies let's you have some tiny timmies all right we're gonna get this out of here if you hear Jake you got to remember you got to keep that hacko clean if you want it to work good that's actually a video that's got a little bit of staying power that i made that hacko video it's managed to get more views than i thought 10 perfect 634 and that's the episode where i showed how to maintain this tool oh you're saying my hacko yeah see that's what when it uh when it clogs like that the whole this is too big like for see that it's like right on the size that it clogs it it's like a perfect clog you can get it on there but it'll clog it rob cat thank you thank you for the super chat says thanks for sharing your knowledge and streaming today thank you rob cat i appreciate it super chats are always awesome thank you guys met call mx ds one which one's that what is that is that a desoldering tool i'm not aware of it definitely i'm interested in more tools though there we go get that we got to get these small ones out and changed this is 16 volt 100 i'm gonna get that to make sure i get the right number 658 50 volt 100 i ain't doing that i'll go 25 it's 16 right now 50 volt might be hard to fit in there but 25 will fit in there easy got four more to go got two down here one over here big one over here one in the middle 1603 right here i don't think i i didn't put any fresh solder on that one see if we can get it out without it be really loose 50 volt 10 that's right 1601 almost there 16 volt for 100 100 let's see what this is 25 volt 100 okay that's good that's a fine replacement for that two more oh thanks looks like i got another super chat coming up hang on let me maybe pull this capacitor i'll get to it thank you so much thank you guys let's see all right first off this is 50 volt one for 508 that's correct we have one more cap to remove on this board and let's see body blow biscuit butter what's up thank you Steve have you have you or anyone know you know created a digi key or mousy mouse or capitalist for a 20 m2 m2 you i do not know if anybody has here's the problem unfortunately with cap lists the passive components that we're using i shouldn't have done that near the board but that's okay um i found that when i put them in a cap list like that over time i used to have a cap list like that over time every part eventually goes out of stock and then it's uh years before they go back in stock and i would go back and look at the cap list after a year and it would be half out of stock parts and then it becomes even more confusing for people because half of them are there and then they don't know what to do with the other half and i had to stop kind of messing with them unfortunately that's just been the nature especially um this all includes when it was 2019 and covid hit and then we were like even capacitors went out of stock for a long time and um so no but if you do need a cap list and you're on the patreon discord you can go in there and there are cap lists like the ones i have printed here and then you could go in and order a cap kit from mauser or digi key plus i don't even the problem is i don't also use um i wasn't the one actually using any of those things as far as the uh like pre-order cap sheets and the reason is i order caps in bulk so i order like one size i'll order a hundred of it to get a price break and then i'll use the cap sheets i have to use for my back stock caps so that's the way i do it because it saves me money doing it that way and it's if i go through and i make a cap list it could cost more because some parts actually get a big price break once you get to certain amounts um as far as ordering so then i'd get another question like why is there 10 on the cap order list of this one part but there's only eight of them in the kit well eight of them costs 30 more than 10 of them okay you might pay two dollars for eight of them and you get 10 of them for a dollar 50 and then you got to start everybody starts getting confused about that kind of stuff when they're just looking at cap lists there's a 50 volt 10 final one sorry for a long answer i hope that makes sense if you need help with like also if you need help with an order sheet you can send me it i'll review it um through a dm on there and patreon so all that works and i'll be glad to look at the cap order sheet for you and make sure it's okay all right that's all our parts that's all our parts out i go through here i'm gonna clean a little bit of this now getting all kinds of stupid notifications on my new phone right yeah new phone is just like a new notification new notification about somebody i don't even know and you did notifications from didn't want notifications from anyway it's just an old man complaining about new tech i'm gonna clean this board a little so they if you look at the order like most of these sheets this is this is the cap kit look i've made notes on this one already where i've had one these two are listed twice accidentally this one is either or so that's the one i'm replacing down here there's two different ones so this is still but there's always like these notes right at the end of the cap list it's going to say there are four versions of this l5 monitor each very slightly in board build out you may have some extra parts depending on your version their kit may also include some upgrade parts recommended by sony okay some of these have been upgraded the only real upgrade on them is the voltage so that's not like listed it doesn't really matter it's not really on this kit a big deal as you can always increase voltage and doesn't hurt hurt anything but this is one i'm always like anytime i find a version i try to add where i found this version had these two i'm going to add that to the new list yeah you got a um marks right unfortunately you're going to find like a cap you like and then it'll go out of stock and you won't be able to get that same exact cap sometimes for years so it's best to just know what type of cap you need there's a lot of brands that are good in the united states and in most western areas and if you get them from digikeer mouser you're probably not getting some knocked off garbage that's a fake part or something let me get a fresh swab what i'm most interested in is down here and then the only thing i do too is i generally make sure i always order if possible um i always try to get 105 degree temperatures and i don't go for like the lowest esr but low ish esr is usually work good on this stuff which all that's stated on the parts when you click on them on mouser or digikey all that's stated in there what's the readings on the parts supposed to be so you're not going to find those totals anywhere on the sony manual so they're going to give you a hundred more choices to choose from on a capacitor the one thing you do want to make sure is that it fits in the area so if you know you have a tight spot be mindful of that that's the only thing you really have to worry about is is it going to fit properly also watch polarity polarity is never mentioned in any kind of um document usually as far as the back of a manual they usually don't say if you have a bipolar capacitor and you might remove it and realize wow you didn't know that because it's not labeled on the parts list anywhere all right guys so now is what i gotta do is i gotta put this 14 part cap kit together and do that so what's uh oh goodness 43 so yeah there will be a 40 list on the patreon those ones are longer those that's a lot mark like the 1340 i worked on that's almost the same design where you're going to have like 40 capacitors in that zone and then you need to do the power supply and the neck board for sure on that one too jake thank you jake is way black is saying that digikey still has ic's too they had the micom ic for my oh wow cool for my kb 27s 42 fried mine was able to get it replaced just for anybody who's interested thanks for that tip yeah i wasn't even aware of that i have gotten oem sony parts from parts suppliers before uh really randomly and weird they have them listed on their site you order it and shoot i had one that took like three months to deliver but it actually showed up oh they very different uh a little tiny bit month but it's not it's not it should be pretty similar to the same thing you should but what you always want to do is you open it up you take the list that you find there and then compare it with your actual set because that set that you're doing shouldn't have like sony replacement parts really there's not really any replacement the only thing that would be upgraded would be um okay then you're going to be fine the 40s are all pretty much the exact same thing the 43 just has a maybe one more board in there that's like a diagonal board connected into the a slot in the in the main chassis that's from the only difference i'd recommend doing that and then also while you have it open do that audio mod try that audio mod on that version um there's documentation for that in the crt database it's really simple when you literally literally just cut a wire cut one wire on the input board where it connects to the main board and you'll add audio on the line on the um sorry on the rgb line yeah pvms basically were multi region most of them i mean they weren't some of them are a little bit different and and vary to just regions but most of them did encompass large areas and some even went as far as to be like all region right they can take any any video signal that's analog just about and then it also could take any power that's ac current from 100 up to 240 volts without having to worry about it the power supply can simply work between that voltage that's you know 100 is down in the japanese standard all the way up to the 240 or 220 whatever it is standard for europe yeah you gotta always guys always check the boards you will find that there is sometimes check the boards out but when you always remove a part like look at it make sure it's matching the part because sometimes you'll find also that for some reason a part might be printed wrong on a board especially older boards part label might be printed wrong or the orientation might be printed wrong and you if you don't know beforehand you won't know after i always recommend taking pictures as you go also so you can go back and look at things if you have any questions take good pictures thankfully that's easy to do nowadays yeah all right guys all right so thank you all for joining me today it's been an hour and a half i know i'm going to cut kind of cutting these some of these shorter but what i'm going to do is i'm going to finish putting together this cap kit i'm going to put it together and then i'm going to try to get it going here and i'll do probably a third stream this week you could do a video too the only reason i like pictures is if you can get i can generally get in there closer with a picture and get a clearer photo in case you're worried about what direction apart is going i mean you can't just take like a picture like from this angle might not be as helpful but if you take pictures from every angle and get close then you can actually take a picture and zoom in and i've had like oh i didn't know was this part like you remove right take a picture before you remove a part then you move apart you realize oh you're looking at the board it looks printed different than every other part like it's facing a different direction and you're like was it actually installed like that you pull up your photo zoom in you can see that yes it was installed like that or maybe it was installed like all the others and it's an error on the board printing but either is good um i just know that when it's come to it does it's painful to have to carry a lot of i mean photographs do take up a lot of space so i understand i don't want to do all that but it's helped me a few times where i've had questions about things i've been working on thanks again thank you guys so much for all the awesome super chats and conversations today and uh for just chilling out and having fun we're working on this 20-05 i'll post back i'll take spell might yeah i'm just wrapping up i'll post pictures of this completion and continuation on twitter if you want to follow it more and otherwise i will see you guys in the next stream and it'll probably be thursday or friday so all right guys have a great rest of your week i'll see you then from col and me and the rest of the retro tech team