 Mm-hmm There's like nothing on one interesting thing too interesting things Yeah, well I've done that and I'm on that one now. Yeah Yeah, yeah, there's not a whole lot on my To know everything I found one story from there That's kind of what I was going next Okay, fuck you Come on Oh Your mobile site is not good. It's just bare bones. It's supposed to come Okay Close all I'm trying to close that too We don't locations All right, I have an issue Great Yeah, there's still nothing really There's stuff like I know stuff because I've covered it in primaries At least not on the Now the front page is here. Hey, you know, we can go for an awesome news source YouTube.com slash C slash Nintendo Prime YT. Yeah I don't know if anyone's even watching yet, but we haven't officially started the episode yet Can you just listen to me phone? Just like two seconds listen to me. Oh, it's a day. Oh I know a really good place to go. This is where I've been getting on Oh, hey, thanks for finally kicking in even though I've had I mean, I guess you can always talk about that. Oh I'm actually I'm actually gonna make it. I'm actually gonna make an entire video about that Okay, I have not dug into it, but there's like 10,000 stories. Oh, yeah for sure So I'm gonna make a whole video where I'm basically scared. Yeah like one of the stories was that searching for Bowser on Like what are you pouring or whatever has risen by five thousand five hundred percent? Oh boy. Oh Like so like I'm actually gonna do a deep dive video where I actually do go to some porn sites and see if I can find Bowser porn. Oh boy. This is in addition to a whole bunch of other stuff I'm gonna be going not safe for work because I'm diving down the rabbit hole That's the name of the video is what's what the hell is going on with Bowser diving down the rabbit hole? Oh boy It's gonna be Good thing this is not video so I can remember that's the title. I'm gonna use I'm gonna forget when I go make the video with the title She's told I was hoping to make the video tonight, but I haven't actually dived on the rabbit hole yet Hey, oh lord, okay Because obviously there's only certain things I could show well. Yeah, obviously you can still see my reactions. Mm-hmm Well, that's kind of cool Well, yeah, I know I've seen I've seen there's so many stories you just type out that no No, I know seven thousand things that come out. Oh, I know but that's kind of cool though Oh, that's kind of that's that's probably not a bad thing to talk about. What? Yeah, sure just whatever Oh Clock this is a Sure Hey everyone welcome back to the Nintendo Prime podcast episode 82 and Yes, folks back-to-back weeks. We are winging the hell out of it this week If you can't tell usually on the wing at weeks, it's because I'm just really really busy That's just life of a parent life of having kids in school everyone Everyone always like all your kids run school You have more types of no because now there's after school activities and before school activities and art projects and all the stuff Then between that honestly feels like it was a lot easier when they weren't in school at all But anyways, that's all right. That's just the life of a parent. I know what I signed up for Today I do want to initially announce something it's gonna be already be announced before this podcast comes around But we do have some people who only listen to the audio version We obviously have people that might be on patreon at patreon.com slash Nintendo Prime for ten dollars a month They might be watching this live as we record it. So they might you know get in on it a little early So might people who get the the audio version early on Sundays for five dollars a month see I am doing a giveaway Oh, it is a rather large giveaway. Oh boy. It will be the largest giveaway I've ever done period No, boy. There's a caveat to this giveaway though for me to invest the kind of money I'm investing into this giveaway. We need to have a goal to achieve because It's a lot of money I am giving away or should say we Nintendo Prime and giving away The Super Smash Bros. Nintendo switch bundle. Oh, so that is the Nintendo switch with a digital copy I'm sorry. I wish it was physical. I don't control these things blame Nintendo It comes with a digital code for Super Smash Bros. But what's so special about this bundle isn't that it's costing me three hundred and sixty dollars. That's kind of sucks Wish it was free Nintendo. Send me one to give away. Yeah, there you go. Then I can give away too. Yeah It's because the switch itself is customized So there's a custom dock and the custom backplate on the switch So I think that alone makes it almost kind of a collector's item in a way But obviously for some of you guys also your first switch For some of you guys might be your second and you just want to put it on your shelf or you just want to use the dock I don't know. I don't know why you want the dang thing. Oh, I know as I'm giving it away But there will be a link when this video goes live proper on Tuesday or on Sunday And there's not a link created now because I haven't actually created the giveaway We're gonna be using gleam.io and the big thing here is that I'm not actually giving this thing away until we hit 50,000 subscribers. So this is on YouTube by the way. So we're currently at 36,800 or something like that almost 37. So we got a ways to go. Obviously I would love to achieve this ASAP, you know, let's hit it before the system comes out. I mean the system comes out November 2nd I believe is when it's currently listed to come out, which is really strange It's coming out over a month before Smash Bros even comes out And no just because it comes with the digital code doesn't mean you get to play Smash Bros early It's yeah I don't even know if you'll be even enter the code the day you get the switch because they probably won't have preloads available Like December, but yeah Either way, I would love to have it have it lamp for them But you know what if we don't hit 50,000 till summer of next year Then I guess I'm just sitting on a system and holding it up in the air on every video and be like Hey, you want this hit subscribe Subscribe We'll be accepting entries the only requirement if you can't already figure out is that you're subscribed to Nintendo Prime on YouTube So youtube.com slash C slash Nintendo Prime YT obviously Nintendo Prime YouTube there Yeah, all it's required is subscribe There'll be other ways you can enter as well like retweeting the giveaway out sharing it on Facebook Stuff like that to kind of spread the word and there's actually a nice incentive to do it because we need to hit 50,000 Subscribers before we even give that anything away. So you kind of want to share it with your friends It's not one of those things where oh, I don't want more people to enter Well, if more people don't enter then we're never giving it away. Yeah, if we never hit 50,000 subs I just bought myself a new switch Yeah, what point in time do you call off the there's no point in time? I believe we will hit 50,000 subs It also helps Curious of masses listens to our podcast. Oh boy It also helps I technically still have access to the yeah, Zeldin from her Facebook page Yeah, 840 something thousand fans. So, you know, we'll be sharing it to that page as well oops Because that's just that's just how we do. Yeah That being said the goal is obviously to grow our channel and my ultimate goal is To get our channel to about 50,000 subs before we turn to the new year if it doesn't happen It doesn't happen if it happens early next year. It's whatever But my goal is to do that because next year I want to shoot for the stars. I want to hit a hundred K and 2019 that's 50,000 subs gained in the year. It's not impossible We'll be probably doing some regular giveaways to help push that along the way next year But not beyond the giveaways. Obviously I want to keep ensuring I'm upping the quality of our content And I'm giving you guys content you guys care about hopefully you care about this podcast. Maybe you don't I also want to Make sure that I am delivering on my content promises Lately I've been putting out a prime news every single day Monday through Friday I want to continue to put our prime news every single day Monday through Friday I think I've got on to a good schedule to pull it off Every single day Monday through Friday But we'll see the biggest question is because the way I haven't scheduled out for prime news is when am I going to get Other content done and right now the answer seems to be well any night. I'm not live streaming Yeah Tonight is an example after this. I actually want to start working on it I we were joking around before the start of the podcast about balsette Because I still have not jumped down that rabbit hole and you listen say I am going to be and I'm not just Dipping my toe in like doing a Twitter search or just doing the safe search on Google and being good I'm diving out. I'm going on porn sites. I'm going on Really anywhere I can think of where balsette might be relevant and Considering some of the news I have seen out there for balsette, you know, we're gonna cover all of the news on balsette How it's got started where it's heading. What's happening? Why is it so crazy? Why is it taking over the internet? Why is like every single Nintendo channel but Nintendo Prime made a video about it? And yeah, we're going we're going all the way down the rabbit hole Obviously if they're certain not safe for work things which I assume pretty much everything on a porn site is not safe For work generally that we will not be showing that on video. I'll just talk about in as as I don't want to say family-friendly detail as I can but at it and so in a detail. I don't know I don't even know maybe I see my reactions on camp I don't even know if I'm gonna be on camera for this one because there's so much stuff There's gonna be so much things for me to show you that it almost I think defeats the purpose of me trying to Be on camera Because but then again, I don't know it could be one of those situations where for one of the first times ever I actually record a video with a webcam In front of my computer as I'm looking up the stuff so like I can capture my instant reaction when I see it the first time Yeah, and then obviously I can capture my screen at that time too and make it Oh, I don't know I haven't decided how it's gonna happen But I know it needs to happen because everyone has been trying to get me to even just type it into Google And I have been unwilling to do that to this point Part of it's because I I'm in my 30s. Yeah, so I'm not really into the whole This is the trendy thing. Yeah, like I kept thinking. Oh, yeah, okay. I get buzz that joke I understand why the joke exists. I don't really know why it's a thing that people care about I mean, it's it's from a new item being added with the Super Mario Luigi you and I'm like, yeah deluxe And it's just like you sure it's not ultimate It's a new Super Mario Brothers you deluxe for Nintendo switch And I just I can't I can't even really talk about it much because all I've ever seen about it is one comic Yeah, I don't know if it's a comic that started it all I know it's a comic that has got thousands and thousands and thousands of retweets on Twitter So I assume that that's the one that started it all you can thank duo master one of our our moderators in our live streams for For showing me that comic. That's the only thing I've seen of it though besides obviously the headlines So I'm very I'm come on edica's talked about it. Yeah, you know when Edica makes a standalone video about something It's big. It's a big deal And it's a big deal for reasons that are very adult So I can't I'm almost excited and nervous because I'm not sure I'm gonna put this video together and make it work with my other content. Yeah, it's obviously gonna be a discussion video on Bowsette, but All I have to say is good luck with that And I'll see me showing you a whole bunch of images of I was I don't whatever I find that I think is okay Okay to show I fully expect the video might get flagged by YouTube and no for sure not advertising friendly I'm like, you know what? I don't really care. Yeah, I gotta dive down the hole some point Yeah, so anyways, obviously in doing this giveaway. I'm I'm just I'm trying to Kind of give an injection of growth and at the same time I'm doing that injection of growth increase my my Quality of the content. I'm out putting so as I said those five videos I want to make sure that I get back to having a discussion video at least three days a week I'm trying to look at a Monday Wednesday Friday schedule or either a Tuesday Thursday Saturday schedule So we'll see on that. I kind of like the Tuesday Thursday Saturday because then obviously gives me a video they do on Saturdays And on Sunday right now that's supposed to be prime comments, although I've been kind of doing it every other week The thing is I'm trying to free up my weekend So I don't have to do anything super difficult and the problem with prime comments is it is a series that requires a lot of Time because I have to dig through all the videos. I got comments. I got here organize it all I got to turn it off. I got an edit all together and by the time I'm done with it It's like a half hour 40 minute video that had two hours worth of recording and another, you know Three hours with the editing and by the time it's all done. That's like an entire weekend day And some weekends I can make that work and other weekends. I can't So I'm trying to free up the weekend. So because that's when my kids are home My fiancee has like every other weekend off. So I Kind of I'm trying to give myself some free time. That's not necessarily spent doing Nintendo Prime. So I Might move prime comments to a different day Maybe I'm Mondays Mondays might make a lot more sense for me to do it I can I can I get to it like right away in the morning or something and transition from that right into Into a prime news, but we'll see I essentially want to aim for two videos a day Monday through Friday at least And then I want one video each day of the weekend And if there's a video and if there's a day that doesn't have one it would be Sundays if I decide You know what I'm just gonna take this day completely off So we'll see and There'll be some days there's more videos some days there's less because you guys know I sometimes do individual Discussions on individual pieces of news. That's still gonna be a thing But I can't predict when those things are gonna happen I don't know when the news is gonna come out that I care to have an extended conversation. Yeah So that means said welcome to the center prime podcast Hopefully you enjoy that giveaway and that little spiel about the inside out of well I guess the inside more so yeah of what happens here at Nintendo Prime And what's gonna be changing as we push this giveaway and hope to massively grow our channel And I've seen the giveaway I think I might include a couple videos people can go watch maybe it'll be this episode of the podcast You know might be thrown in there as a bonus entry in fact I might I think over time what I might do is add in new videos people can watch to get extra entries Because that way it's not it's not just making people subscribe. They're also actually making them check out my content See if they actually enjoy it Who knows maybe the Nintendo Prime podcast is what makes you stick around. Oh now I'm Nathaniel Ruffles. Yes, of course your lovely host with Eric Moore to my left. Your guys is right. Hello. This is Gonna be an interesting one. Oh God Eric. What do you want to start with right off the bat? We're winging this bad boy. Yeah. Yeah, I mean as much as we bashed Nintendo online And stuff like that everyone hates me. Yeah, I wish I might do it Geez negative negative subscribers fantastic So well, hopefully maybe we can actually gain you some a couple subscribers because we're actually gonna talk about a positive No, it's no positives about this damn service It's it's not as bad as what we thought it was Lay it on me later. Okay Nintendo switch is gonna keep your online cloud saves for 180 180 days after your membership expires So six months. Yes, okay, I Think I mean I was expecting it to not keep for You know, well, they they originally said well a customer service rep said they can't guarantee your data after your subscription ends the FAQ at the time said something along the lines of Over time we can't guarantee your data is gonna be there So it's one of those like yeah, there might be a grace period We're not telling you what that grace period is and for everyone out there by the way that said Oh, there's 180 day thing has been there since day one. No, I it really actually wasn't what was there And you can look this up through the wayback machine You can go back on the wayback machine go on the Nintendo online website in the United States And you will see that 180 days was not there until the 25th of September So it was added the same day they told IGN And it was added after they told IGN's IGN broke the news before it was even on the official website Was this it was this announced even after I'm guessing it wasn't even announced. Oh, that's the weird thing about it This is this is something that they could have put into the direct the direct they could have put it in the FAQ Yeah, on the website. Yeah, instead of just saying yeah Eventually your data might not be there. Okay. What does that mean? Yeah, it left everything up for interpretation, right? We know basically guarantee you up to this far afterwards after that not necessarily saying it's gonna be there Yeah, it could have been something that they did. It's just I think I think they always had the 180 days like You know, it was always gonna be 180 days It was already 180 days for the system came out But this just to me falls in line and I know we're trying to like not chastise Nintendo But this falls in line with the bad communication. We found out about 180 days Not because it was on their website not because of anything else we found out because IGN in wake of the backlash Ask the higher-up person at Nintendo about it and they gave an answer and then after IGN reported that answer publicly Then the website was updated and it's like so Nintendo still never officially told anyone They just updated the website after they told someone in the media. It's hard boat. We told you it was all out there Now remember, I think the 6th of the Great Spears good. This is good. It's not like, you know Backing up so tune to a Pokemon good news that would like yeah having clouds a backups for every game right would be the ideal for sure But uh six months worth it By the way for those confused. This is after your subscription ends So this isn't like right you back up your game save and what they're only keeping my file in there for six months Even though I paid script. No, they're constantly in your save file every time you update your same route That's not the problem. It's when it's like say you lost your switch And you let your subscription end because you don't have your switch right now And you can't afford a new one and then you get a new one sometime in the next six months You can re-sub up and download your data now some people do don't like that You have to re-sub up to download your data, but let's be honest. It's part of an online service Right at least I think that they're it makes sense why you have like here's what I'll tell you Is you is getting all your save data back in the event that you were that person that lost your switch? Isn't it worth 20 bucks to you because the alternative is you just don't have it right now I could argue they should let you download it for free. I think playstation lets you download it for three For free in those first six months. You just can't update your save data till you re-sub up But whatever I mean things are never gonna be perfect when it comes to this Nintendo is actually new at this I know some people get mad at me because it makes me because I do a job I do I think probably a really good job of making Nintendo sound like they're inept No, I think they do a good job of that themselves. You just point it out. That's the thing like I don't think Nintendo's dumb. I don't think they're idiots. I think they have a lot of smart people What I think is there's a disconnect between Nintendo of Japan and Nintendo of America and well basically Nintendo of Europe as well, I guess Where Nintendo of Japan Cares more about Japan than they care about everyone else as an example of a voice chat app Talked about this before the voice chat app works really really well now You're not really getting disconnected that much Mario Kart 8 is probably one of the most fun But you know why it's the most fun in Mario Kart 8 because there's actually a lobby Oh, wow Not for any other game But there is for Mario Kart 8 And you can talk to complete strangers and people are having lots and lots and lots of fun with that So I I think that when it comes to this stuff That oh and by the way the voice chat clarity is actually really good Uh, it turns out that Nintendo is for voice chat. It's using google And what what I find is weird about them using google servers and google's voice stuff Is that I personally through using the app a few times the quality to me on my phone with headphones on Sounds better than not only discord on my phone, but also sounds better than google's own voice services on my phone So using the same services, it's somehow cleaner. I don't know if it's the codec I don't know if it's the way nintendo's choosing to have it processed And also because they're using the google stuff. It also means that the people in china Um that have switches cannot use the app because um google stuff is blocked in china I mean welcome to china right so that kind of sucks for people to live in china, but um Technically it's not released in mainland china yet the switch anyways people are just importing it from hong kong But I don't know it's it's really interesting to me Um that yeah sure the voice and here's the thing the voice clarity is great You still can't make lobbies outside of games Still can't message people These are like basic features like it's great that the quality is awesome But what advantage does the app give me over discord? Well, the only advantage right now is that I can talk with randoms and mario kart 8 deluxe Yeah, that's it because everyone else you already have to be friends with So if you already have to be friends with them and all the other games Then I can just use discord and I can still message them And we can be in a lobby outside of the game. So well, maybe the voice quality is not as good But you gain all these extra advantages. I would rather have those extra advantages than oh my god It's the best sounding quality ever. Yeah, I mean really voice quality It's it's plus you have the people that I was playing um I was testing this originally in a matches between which I've done before but I wanted to test it after After the paid version came out and the guy and I said unplug your headset unplug your headphones Just have my audio come through on your speaker on your speakerphone And you use them the bass mic and everything And lo and behold not only did I hear echo from me talking of course because you're going to I heard his game echo back as well And it just it made everything sound like crap And this is in addition to the fact if I'm using headphones I need to have a splitter to to get my audio from my switch and it's still not good Yeah, no matter what people say about the app and the quality like oh the app quality is good, but it's still not good I here's a suggestion nintendo If you're going to stick with the app and never allow native voice chat, which I think is a mistake I think it's a big mistake I think there's a couple things you need to do to make it better one You need to allow bluetooth streaming of the audio From the game to the app And then let people actually adjust the volume of the people talking and the volume of the game Is switch have bluetooth? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. How do you think the joycons work? Oh, yeah, never mind. Sorry I didn't really think of that. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. No, it's bluetooth. They just have to turn it off. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah So like that's just like the big thing to me Like I can't get behind like I can't get behind the app when I have to splice my audio together Like that's how can nintendo think that's a simpler way like I'm like, oh, well, then just play the game audio from your tv Let me tell you again in in the things I have done on here the problem with the game audio coming from the tv And even if you only have one earpiece in is the person usually turns the volume up so they can actually hear the game And that comes back through their microphone and then it creates an echo and it creates a terrible experience for right Versus having the audio and everything come through the headphones so that I can't hear the echo Right. I only hear their voice and I hear it's super clear. So yeah, as awesome as the voice chat is and as super clear as it is It's still one of those things I'm like, yeah, but when we're actually like it's great. Cool. Mario Kart 8 lobby There's hardly any music who cares and you're not in you're not talking to people while you're actually racing So it doesn't matter that's fine. But in the other games where you actually are talking to people while you're playing the game It's like Yeah, I I can possibly not hear somebody because they're they're game Audio's turned up way too damn long and the reason I'm even saying this is because we've had a lot of people on our discord server A lot of people the comments talk about how awesome the voice chat is on the app and I'm just like but guys I've been using it and the same issues that were existed before are there just because the audio is clearer now I don't know why it's clear at all. Maybe they weren't using google before Yeah, but whatever they did to make it clear is great But they hint fixed the base issue of game audio and voice audio together for one without using an audio splicer And I don't expect an average consumer to go out and splice their audio. Yeah, I have all the audio equipment in the world I could I could run my switch and everything through a mixer and make it all work Or I really I got professional equipment. Yeah, but not everybody has that and I don't always want to do that I want to sit down and just play a game with you Mario Kart when you're at home and I'm at home and I'm not streaming I just want to casually chill in voice chat with you And I can't because I got a splice on my crap together and have wires everywhere, right? And I know somebody go you can bluetooth dongle. I know you can bluetooth dongle It's just like um, but It's like someone said how they bring in what they'll do is they'll bring in wired audio Uh, because there are certain headphones that support this they're not cheap But headphones where you can wire your audio in from your switch and then bluetooth the audio in from your phone So you can have it all in one But those are more expensive not a layperson headphone Yeah, that's not like like when when people go pick up a 15 dollar logitech headset or Uh, they go to or they just grab their earbuds that came with their phone That's not really included in any of that. No, so you're talking about people haven't and remember Nintendo said bulky headsets are why we're doing this But then you need a bulky headset to combine the audio together bulky everybody's used to playing with bulky headsets No, my thing is it's not the used to it's people are People don't have to play with bulky headsets. They never had to they chose to because it's a better audio experience Yeah, it's not about like when reggie said that last year. I'm just like, okay Come on Like people want to use bulky headsets because their noise cancelling. Yeah, it creates a better audio experience It's got nothing to do with affecting voice chat. It has to do with them wanting better audio Yeah Plenty of people just use the little cheap things that came with the xbox as well and that works fine. Yeah, it's just not as good Yeah, so you don't have to use bulky headsets. You never had to right right, but you're just using earbuds with a little microphone I'm also saying that gamers are used to it. I mean We live with bulky headsets. We're used to it. We don't Bottom line is that yes, I'm glad they did the six month thing That's great. Uh, it was probably always there and they just did a bad job communicating it and that's fine Um, but things are still not like I'm not giving nintendo a pass on the service, right? No, no The voice chat app still is still crap to me. It's it's going to be crap to me No matter how high quality the audio is it doesn't matter when I still despise audio together So if nintendo could just do that one thing that let let it blue two stream audio to your phone If they could just do that one thing it would make this experience 10,000 times better Now does it really excuse not having local? No, because I don't want to use my phone when i'm playing my switch I want to set my phone on a phone charger and chill back and play my switch I don't want to have to drain battery on my phone as i'm trying to charge it Just so I can voice chat with my friends on switch. That's like That's the one thing lost on nintendo and like I get that it's super high quality But man, I'll sacrifice some quality for convenience. You can offer both now the nes game thing I think is interesting too We're going to touch on the online stuff a little bit because I have the I have the online at the nes stuff um I just I I played it day one and I don't think i'm really going to go back and play them again Because i'm still one of those people that I just I've beaten all these games hundreds of times as a kid It was cool to experience them one more time, but I just don't find myself caring um the swat play worked fine Everything just works But it's even got a low latency mode, which is really cool But I don't know it's just it's one of those things where that sounded added value to me I spent 20 bucks. So I could have cloud saves Yeah, I could have not played swatoon 2 and mario kart 8 anymore. Yeah, I don't care about the voice app I could just play fortnite. It's free. Yeah, don't need the service Um, I just want to be a fortnite streamer all the time, but yeah, but it's one of those things where I just I I still want it to get better and a lot of people that that that are Boycotton and are going to be like you're part of the problem because you still bought it and blah blah blah I know okay. I get it. I told you guys i'm a hypocrite on this but It's only because you do what you do. I think it's gonna slowly get better No, hopefully no, no, it's not no do the cloud saves don't affect what I do The cloud saves are for me. No, no, no, I don't want to lose my 500 hours in breath of the wild right I don't have 500 but no i'm saying That you know you're doing it to basically kind of in a way Make sure it is as bad as what it is No, you get it for free. Give me a week free trial. Yeah, there you go. No, I told you I did this for for Trying to try to put words on I didn't do it for my work. Yeah, this is because I don't want to lose my data Period. Yeah, there's that see you don't have you know Three dozen games like I do with hundreds of hours in all of them where you don't want to like you lose your your data In mario and breath of the wilds like oh that sucks. Oh, I get to play these amazing games all over again I'm like, uh, no, I've already restarted files and restarted files on these games several times I don't want to have to restart and lose all my gear and lose all my progress Especially in my 100 run mode because I'm like, I'm never gonna do those core oxy's again after I'm done with that So like I don't want to lose my and that's what sucks that's between two's not bad But I have a lot of hours in swatoon two and well even my multiplayer data is stored locally Which scares me even more. I'm gonna lose all my rank data and I'm not even that good And I still don't want to lose my rank data. I earned that b minus rank and uh, what mode is that? Um God, it's my best multiplayer mode obviously because I'm c-plus at everything else. Yeah my b minus rank at Oh no I can't remember the name of it anyways There's a mode in there that I have a b minus rank at and honestly it took me a while to get to that rank I don't want to lose it. Yeah, so I don't imagine that if you were someone with an x-rank like oh Right, yeah, again Nintendo should just store it on their side. So Yeah Again, anyways, all right. Well, what do you got for me next? I think we've complained enough and praise the little bit I don't know what there is to praise. Well, right. Here's my thing. They're charging us money for a service And they gave us six months on the cloud saves like okay cool. That should have just been expected. Yeah Well, what are they doing that's not expected for 20 dollars? No, I know Well, I think six months is a little bit more than I expected. I was thinking maybe three Well, at the most Sony does six months. You don't have to worry about our next box because the whole service is free So six months is kind of like that's the standard already But and it says it's the only thing to be worth money on it. It better What have we learned about Nintendo just because it's standard doesn't mean it happens What do you mean? They're charging for online now? Everything's a you know what I mean the tenders of them the service. You know what I mean Micro transactions are standard. Just wait for the next Mario game. Oh god Oh lord. All right. Um, I guess uh Speaking of save data. Sure. Um uh polygon had a interview with uh pokemon developer Uh, uh, Junit Junitzi misado misada misada. There you go About the early days of uh developing pokemon. Yep, and we're going like red blue here. Yes way back very very first gen and um Let's uh, should I just jump into just get us forwards here? Just get to it. Okay Uh, one of the happy episodes or more positive stories. I really don't remember so well But I think most memorable, uh, the most memorable Happening that I still have in my mind after all these years is that we were developing the game On these unix computer stations called the sun Uh spark station Uh, we're we're developing and they're these unix boxes and they Crash quite a bit back then computers would crash uh fairly frequently Somewhere with midway through the development. Maybe the the fourth year or so holy cow Eight years of development. Yeah. Anyways, we had a really bad crash that we couldn't we didn't know how to recover the computer from That had all of the data for the game all of the pokemon the main character and everything It really felt like oh my god if we can't recover this data or finished here I just remember doing a lot of different research I called the company that I used to work I used to work for Seeing if they had any advice to recover the data I would go on this internet service provider back then they called that called nifty serve Oh, good lord. That is that that is like uh, that's the old school. Yeah, that's like a 90s name right there Uh, it's like a it's like a japanese version of compu serve Sure I'd go on and ask people that I'd never asked and never talked to for advice on how to recover the data I look at these english books about the machine itself because there weren't it wasn't a lot of information in japanese Just to figure it out. We eventually figured out how to recover it But that was thanks to uh, that was the most nerve-wracking moment. I think in development So from this story Older why the hell do we not have backups for pokemon in 2018? Literally, they just told us the entire franchise almost didn't exist because the data was almost deleted So why can't we save our own data? This is this is so ridiculous This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard I know actual like evidence the whole franchise almost went under after four years of work Because of the crash and losing data. So if my switch crashes and I lose my data I'm just as frustrated as he was. Yep. And hey, guess what? There's more likely not a chance that you're gonna get back and actually recover that data No, you can't you can't recover it on switch. Watch this corrupt. It's gone. Yeah, can't back up. There's no backups Yeah, yeah You can't you can't touch the the drive you can't take the drive and put in another switch Like you can't because it's all like hardware. Oh, yeah That's that's the only the whole thing was almost I'm like, I can't believe this Yeah, they just so you're telling me the pokemon series started With one of the biggest scares ever and the whole series not even happening because of it To in 2018 we cannot back up our pokemon saves because they're worried about cloning pokemon Instead of worrying about people losing all of their hundreds and thousands of hours of progress in pokemon Like they almost did they literally almost had it happen to them And they had to pay professionals and read and go out of their cover. This is like, oh, yeah, I could Oh guys, you can recover your save data. Let me grab this japanese recovery book for switch Yeah, it's been like they they went through how many hours hours and lost money and all this stuff to make it happen And we we can't like there's already a system in place. Just let us use it, right Who like I understand the competitive scene Cloning and cloning your the the cloning aspect is not more important than my saved data. I'm sorry. It's just not Millions of people Guess what a vast majority people playing pokemon aren't going to be cloning. Yes There'll be some that are cloning and I've went over ways that measures that they could put in to help stop that Yeah, but instead of hurting real consumers What you do is you allow everyone to do it and then you battle back against the cloning along the way Well not hurting legit consumers. It's not a hurting legit consumers to stop an issue. You just don't want to address Yeah And this coming off the back of the fact that the entire pokemon franchise was almost lost because of a crash The exact thing we have to worry about every day Or well every day. We'll have to worry about we'll have to worry about Like I don't have to worry about now because I have had the cloud backups But I had to worry about it with splatoon and I got to worry about it with pokemon. Yeah And I get I understand all the other it's like man How did they not learn a lesson from that a lesson that show you man if that really sucked for us imagine what it feels like to the consumer Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah. No, and I understand this was back in the 90s and their backups weren't really possible for a while But once soon as they were you figured they'd be like, yeah, we gotta get all over this also Once you figure I mean a graded PCs were probably expensive as hell back then. I don't remember exactly how much they were I had a PC back then right right, but It's for them to have just everything on one computer Especially that you know, it's the type of computer they were using especially that you especially that you know that crashes Quite frequently. Well, you got to remember back then Um, not only were computers expensive the type of computer they were using Which is like one of the highest of the high-end server grade computers, right cost of fortune, right? Um, and this is the company that hadn't had You know any really massive successes, right? They had a huge budget get a remember this wasn't nintendo first party, right? That's we got to remember nintendo. Yeah, they helped pay for some things, but they're going to be like, yeah Let's just buy you tons of computers. It's like no use use the expensive crappy already have and like the computer's crashing all the time I think it's funny because I yes, I obviously if blue blue screens were more common back then Oh, I think a lot of it. I think a lot of it was just small crashes. They weren't necessary Well, obviously once you have everything saved, right like for the most part, you know You can recover from when when you're if your desktop crashes, but you have everything saved It's you know, it's still there when you reboot Um, and even sometimes if you don't and it crashes it'll recover sometimes depending on the application Uh, because but what I what I don't get is um, like I think what was probably the issue when in this particular crash was data corruption Impossible data corruption happens Usually you can't recover that. You're done. That data is done. It's unusable I mean you could sometimes get a professional to go through and try to patch it, but for the most part it's done Um, so to me, it's like I think it was more probably a situation like that where like it crashed They rebooted it back up and it wasn't there anymore. Yeah, or it was there and it did not load Yeah, and it was one of those. Oh, shit. Yes What should we do now? Because see this is before windows recovery exists See this is why we're able to be mostly safe because windows itself will kind of create like an image Even if you don't tell it to by the way, it'll do this. Yeah Um, where that's why you're able to to even in a blue screen Usually you'll come right back to what you already were doing right usually it doesn't always work There is an actual windows recovery tool you can use and create a manual backup as well And now with everything, you know being on the internet in the cloud like losing any critical data is a lot harder these days Um, there's a lot, you know, and this is like Linus Meenia group like trying to right now They're trying to back up like hundreds of terabytes of video files Because right now it's all located in one physical location on these multiple servers But if the servers ever go down or there's a fire in the building, that's it. They don't have any of it anymore Um, so like they're trying to figure out a way like they Trying to use the cloud and then they realize we have way too much data for the cloud. It's not gonna work It's way too expensive. It was going to be like $20,000 a month or something. Um, yeah, like yeah, that's not happening No, um, and then they tried using the uh, google google drive like unlimited Uh thing that was really cheap and cheating it with multiple users and running an auto program to auto upload And then they found out once you hit 150 terabytes that they really bottle Like you can still upload they just throttle you to the point that it would take you like 50 years to get all your data uploaded And it's not even readily accessible instantly. So that ended up working now. They're looking at using tape deck technology Yeah, which for those who don't know like We don't really use tapes. Oh like in the practical world anymore Yeah, uh for recording anything because you gotta rewind and unwind non-stop, but A lot of supercomputers do use them for backups. Yeah, it's cheap Yeah Yeah, you got a massive thing full of them, but It's cheap And if the worst possible thing happens, it's a physical medium that isn't getting erased because the power went out Although they will go up. It's gonna suck to recover all that it will go up in flames real quick too Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna suck having to try to recover all the data But it is the most cost-effective way to back up like supercomputers and stuff So now they've been looking into that and you know what sucks is like one tape deck like reader writer is like $5,500 to read one tape at a time. If you want the dual one, it's nine grand Yo, it's expensive. The actual tapes are cheap. Yeah, but the actual things that read and write to them Oh, yeah, obviously and technology to advance to the point where it's almost drag and drop but like you'll drag and you're like There's the file. Hey spin backwards. Yeah Take it over here. Oh man. Um, so yeah, it's It's interesting. Yeah. Needless to say that I saw that story went What so guys in case you don't know all you pokemon fans out there Uh, we were a computer crash away from not having the series at all And now we're all a switch crash away Or a 3ds crash away from not having any of your Save data and so they've already experienced what that feels like and they are okay Because of cloning for all of us to have to feel that way. Just remember that. Yep. Yeah All right All right, that's just funny Right. I mean, I'm glad I'm obviously glad that oh no for sure because because obviously and we would have never known Right. This was back in this wasn't like back in the day when everything's on the internet Oh, they're working on this game. Yeah, like it's like as an example. Um I'll give you a kind of a more common example Retro studios rumor has it they were working on a game that didn't come together and they had to like Stop making it after two or three years And that's why we haven't gotten a new retro studios game because they've had a restart new development on another game Um, but that's all rumor has it, right? Yeah. So back then there wasn't rumors about this game Yeah, it would just be we didn't even know what happened. Yeah, it existed, right? Just would have been money thrown away and the pokemon company would be no more Or non-existent game freak. Sorry All right, lord. What do we got here? That's making the money throwing away. Wow. You're just setting me up for these transitions. It's working. Thank you. Thank you Uh, apparently there are fake Nintendo level kits, uh now appearing online with no game inside the box That's not a surprise. Well. Well, it's a boxer. It actually looked legit. It does that looks like they just they basically remove Uh, they basically buy the kits. I don't know if they necessarily buy the kids I don't know how they're gonna buy the kits make money, man. Um That looks like they basically oh, yeah, they they remove all of Nintendo's name on it. Well, yeah, of course. Yeah So they do in china they change the box art up a little bit because down down here they have the actual box art Which side is the actual this side versus the change up the top right corner? Oh, yep. They changed the yep. Okay. Oh, yeah I see I see the changes. Yeah slight slight changes, but still look look small, but but you could you could just think Oh, it's just a reprint. You can see why yeah, it's just new stuff. Um Yeah, apparently all the fake product had worked all the fake product had were sheets of cardboard Without any game. They were completely useless So I don't know if it actually had did they even have the perforations in the car that I'm not sure I haven't either be funny if it was literally somewhat. You just bought a box of just cardboard board Yeah, that you could just go to your local dollar store and buy and the thing is that like apparently these aren't um Um Doesn't mean sold on ebay and amazon or they were um not necessarily I don't think it was ebay and amazon, but some of the fairly decently well reputable Sites, um, I don't Amazon ebay are the two big ones right? Um, I mean, were they selling a walmart or something? No, I don't think so I don't know. I mean walmart. There's some stuff that gets past walmart quality control Number of fake boxes have been spotted around asia including nintendo's home of japan Uh, slightly different packaging Uh, basically uses yeah official artwork Um, but removes is are they charging are they charging the same price? Um used to be real thing Uh folks of our nintendo soup shared a story um Purchase from popular electronic retailers like uh, lasada Oh, that's uh the fake nintendo level of ready-to-get box had no game card inside. That's a big retailer. Yeah So it's like they're apparently it's like a a fairly decently You know, how does that happen? I mean, I obviously don't know how retail works over there But man, I wonder how much he paid like if he paid full price Well, right. Yeah, no for sure. I don't know what the return policies are either But it's like, oh, have you paid full price and all you got were sheets of cardboard without the game? Yeah Well, I You don't most games. Oh, I mean in the united states I can't even sell lab anywhere because no one wants to buy just the game Yeah, they want the full kit with the car, right? But you obviously use them because you can sell the cardboard kit with no game Oh boy Yeah, I actually have the official box. Yeah, of course the people in the united states. It's fraud and You'd have to go for sure you'd have to refund them to avoid for sure So they wouldn't really matter and they get to keep it. They don't even have to send it back Right, and I'm probably sure that it's probably the same around the world I think I think it's one of those things where where this is even though it's happening in like japan That's happening like an age of territory tells me this is just some chinese company making knockoffs and oh for sure Ripping people off because that's what they do. Yeah You know and we hear about this in other cell phones But like they don't only charge you a couple hundred bucks and you actually end up getting most of the features of mainstream cell phones So that's not being that bad of a deal, but for this sure you're getting the cardboard But without the actual software the cardboard is just cardboard That's that's what sucks about it like you can't just go on the e-shop and buy the software The cardboard is cardboard you need the without the software. It's useless. So I think that's that's funny I almost want to I gotta see how much one of those kits cost. I want to see like import one Just gonna be like here's the official label. Here's the unofficial. It's it literally I just wasted a hundred bucks plus fifty dollars on international shipping. Yeah, right for cardboard. Yeah Yeah I'm gonna put this in the background of my videos and see people act like I got a special media version Of labo just for the box. All right Oh, that's I feel bad for you. Oh, I do too. Well, I mean I can see why though I mean if you really don't pay attention to the box I'm sure you might just think it's a new labo kit. Yeah, right because there's new ones coming out It it literally says switch labo not Nintendo switch and then but you're not you're not gonna most consumers aren't gonna pay attention to that right no No, well, and that's kind of I get myself from like Walmart GameStop That's by Amazon. We're like even on Amazon like I've been screwed on Amazon before But that's what's great about Amazon. You instantly get a refund. Yeah, if you're screwed That's why I like buying on Amazon lowers the risk on the end user Right. Oh someone screwed you like if you bought a micro sd card that claims that's 500 gigs for 20 bucks And it really is just a 2 gig card that's been messed with to read as 500 You can get your 20 bucks back. Yeah, Amazon will protect you Amazon will go Do something about generally they will do something about it. Well, there's yeah, but then you just crop up as another seller Amazon has issues with that, but again, they're very very student to that that seller that doesn't mean that they won't come back But all right anything else here So apparently sad day But not completely not completely unexpected Um, apparently there will be no more drifting around, uh, Tokyo in unlicensed Mario cards Uh, because Nintendo won a lawsuit against them. Okay. Well, what's what's the story here? Like, um, can I not modify a cart to look like I'm a cart from Mario Kart? No, I think there was an actual like company that was Providing selling cards. No, no, no, that just would basically rent, uh, costumes and carts from and Drive around Tokyo and uh Basically, they were just calling it, you know, basically Mario Kart And Nintendo sued them and Well, obviously I measured the service that either were selling the costumes and the carts together or they were I don't think it I think it was just a I think it was just a one of those things that you and your friends get together It's just like a normal go-kart track type place where you just go when you Have a Mario Kart race I don't think it was anything See My thing is selling that mine my thing is in situations like that I don't know how popular they are But I would almost like give Nintendo a like a ring and be like, hey, can we pay a licensing fee? To use the likeness of your characters and carts on our go-kart track They might say no because they're going to be doing a universal Holy cow. How much is the lawsuit? Holy cow. I assume that's what you're going. Holy cow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um So apparently, uh The the uh company was called Mario Mario mobility Um, no and previously known as Mario Kart They would have to fork over 10 million yen, roughly $88,000 and immediately stop wearing Mario themed outfits as Nintendo had complained about it Was damaging damaging the reputation of the Mario Kart series. How? How how damaged the reputation? The only reason it is is because Nintendo is not running it Right, but it doesn't actually hurt the mario the mario. I mean, it's obviously they filed a lawsuit with the They're gonna win intellectual intellectual property, right? Yeah, yeah Yeah, they're gonna win the lawsuit for sure Basically, they're selling on the premise of you get to pretend you're playing Mario Kart And I get like and in Japan they have like virtual reality Mario Kart like you can go do that's official and everything I just Ah It's fine. I get why Nintendo had to do it Yeah, but I also of mine like People are just go karting Who cares that they're wearing costumes like I could I could buy an official Mario costume and go go karting on my own Yeah, I just can't sell other people to wear my mario costume to go or how would they know? Yeah under the table. Yeah, they obviously were not under the table. That was the thing They were a legit business So, oh man, I wish I would have seen this story before before Oh, we have another label story. Here we go This thing is creepy as hell Martin you're gonna have to put up an image of this in the background. You can find it at nintendo life. Yeah, here we go Oh for sure Uh There's uh, nintendo labo is coming out with a toad kit of your dreams or nightmares I'm gonna go with nightmares that thing is I sure this is official enough fan made I don't know pretty sure as I said nintendo's doing it Shared online by nintendo. Hey, I know him. He's been on our park. Yeah, and japanese 3ds video below shows off Canopio conversion of nintendo labo vehicle kit for those not in the know It's a green colored toad who acts as the mascot for nintendo's official line social media account Oh my god, this is official The custom design replaces the vehicle kits usual steering wheel set up with a fully functioning drivable toad to drive toad guys I I don't know what is going on here. Okay. I'm turning the volume down. It's already off Everything we gotta see the video on this and just react. Oh lord Unfortunately, we can't show the video to you guys. Yeah. Oh never mind. I guess my media wasn't off. I could okay Oh great toads actually in the software to lord. Well, obviously No No, no, okay. Hold on. Hold on. No We gotta describe what just happened. So you guys know the vehicle kit that came out Oh, that's what the so so we get to this point toads in the software, but then they stop out They have this giant toad head made. Okay. It's just a head I know there's one thing we can do though to get this video They take the steering wheel off of the of the normal Vehicle kit and they slap the toad head on top of it And it looks and then they flip it up suddenly it turns green magic Yeah, I'm not sure how that happens and They open toads had they drop a joy con in it. They pull a piece of cardboard out of his arms out Is it ears? No ears. Not sustained. It's the steering wheel. I It's the most ridiculous. You're gonna have to retweet this. You know, I Martin don't have to show as many images as you can. You can show as much images as you want You can always make it a stop motion video. We can retweet this too, but what is This is official. This is It's actually legit. Yeah Yeah What I mean, it's Japan. There's a lot. I mean, they have vending machines for thongs in Japan. So, right? So, I mean, it doesn't surprise me, but oh my lord Okay, I'm so Nintendo it's time. I need my tingle. Oh, I need my tingle video nice Nice. I need it right now. Nice. I need it right now. I'll grab onto his kulu limpa to make the steering wheel, right? Flying airplane with that bad boy. Oh boy. Oh my gosh This has been a very fun Yeah, yeah, um, are you out of stories? You got something else to hit me with quick. Um, I'm not quite sure Uh slapping on me. Okay. Uh slapping the basement apparently Reggie sparked a Metroid game awards A reveal with this with this choice of t-shirt. I covered that in a prime news episode. So What happened was uh, jeff kealy tweeted out a photo of him. I don't remember who the middle guy is in the photo You can put you can put the photo of martin if you want. Yeah, it's on jeff kealy's twitter So he's wearing a Metroid prime logo shirt underneath his is his laser And obviously jeff kealy started to hype up the game awards in december So a lot of people are like, oh, he's wearing Metroid prime shirt. I mean we're getting met Ubisoft's Yves Eves Yeah, no, no, I know who that is. Oh, that's I'm pretty sure. Yeah. No way. That's what it looks like. No way That's what it looks like. No way. That's not yet. That's not that is not him. Why would they have that down there at the bottom? That's wolf game puck on the right. Look on the left. Yes on the left On the left. Yes is use Gilmour or is that wolf game up there? This is wolf game puck. This must be wolf game puck Okay, yeah, I don't know who wolf game puck is. Is he a chef? Is he a chef? Yeah, okay Anyways, anyways, so the picture with the chef overcooked three. Yeah, maybe. No, um, just got overcooked too. That's not happening. I think, um The thing about this gentleman in the middle, uh, believe the gentleman in the middle is you'll Ubisoft's very own Yves Gilmour. It's not Yves Gilmour. No, it's not Dude, I watch him all the time. He's the CEO of that is not used. Okay. You guys are gonna picture yourself. It was believed to be Oh as it turns out the man is actually celebrated chef wolf game puck. Okay. There we go. Okay, so it is wolf game Who confused that for Yves Gilmour? I don't know. It doesn't even look like him The only thing the same is the bald in the front. Yeah, I could kind of see it a little bit. No, I can kind of see it a little bit The faces are totally different. Even the shape is the only thing that's the same is the forehead Yeah, okay. They both have that bald forehead thing going on. Yeah, right, right. Okay back to the prime Back to the prime t-shirt. Anyway the prime t-shirt Yeah, so he's wearing a metro prime t-shirt and So people are speculating that this means metro prime four is going to be shown off And I want to remind people that this isn't the first time he's done something like this and last time we did not get metroid Um, he literally at the game awards that used to be hosted by spike tv This is back when the game awards were garbage hot garbage. That's an embarrassment on the industry. No one should have cared Reggie was having an interview with uh, jeff kealy and during the game awards and he was wearing a metroid pin And he did that whole oh, we got one one surprise for you thing and you're just like he's wearing the metroid pin Oh crap, we're about to get a metroid game and it was cranky kong and don't he on top of the freeze Yeah, buddy. That was the big announcement nintendo brought after wearing the metroid pin. Why reggie? Why are you trolling people with a metroid pin and then oh, by the way, we're adding cranky kong Everyone was so pissed. Oh and plus don't you have a tropical freeze game awards? Not the best place to show off that game I'm sorry. Yeah, it's just not it's not the kind of crowd that watches. Oh, man Anyways, I'm hoping that I'm the only thing I reason I'm going to give this any credence Is I'm hoping reggie learned from the backlash from that That if you're doing it again now, it better legit be metroid prime 4 getting shown off No, no watch. He actually at no watch. He actually comes out with that shirt And it's not a metroid prime 4 shirt at all. It just kind of That part of it that part of it looks like it. Yeah, he takes off the other side It's mario or something. Yeah, right? What? New transformation. It's it's it's the toad bevel. Wait, what? It's the new bowser. Yeah I think that's all I got for that if you got I don't I that's what what what's happening. I don't know I The nintendo verse is kind of going weird. Well, here's the thing I think at the game awards We're gonna end up getting banned out of three because they And now it's been out of three last year So if they go like kind of off the trend they've been doing, okay if the game was announced there They're going to show it there. Yeah, whether or not it's even coming next year. I don't know I guess that'll be the big thing if it paid out of three is not showing at the game awards I'm not so sure it's coming next year because we don't know how far into development it is But I mean, obviously metroid prime 4 has been announced A little better year and a half since the announcement. I guess it would make sense to finally see something Even a CGI trailer, but right great Okay, so I was actually opening up my own youtube channel I know right going to my own honestly one thing I kind of want to talk about okay And this is probably we'll end the podcast with where are we at? Where are we at on time in here? We've been trying to shoot you got about five minutes here. All right, so uh, and we can go over by the way The podcast is no longer. I don't want it to go over this week. Um nintendo at one point apparently had A vr headset, right? We all know about the virtual boy. We all know about that Well, it wasn't a headset or something more so on a tabletop thing And it was terrible. Mm-hmm had 22 games and Red and it really wasn't true 3d and it just it was garbage. Did it make a bunch of people sick? I don't know after nine months. They stopped making it. So it was completely like you think that we use a bomb This is the biggest bomb in the history I read well apparently Man, what was it called? I'm gonna go to the source. I wait on the video. Are you sure it's not? Are you sure it's not gonna be a This new toad lebo? No No, no, no, no. This is actually really cool. Okay, did I forget? Oh, no, I did. I looked it right here Okay, so I got this from metro, uh, uk and apparently jeremy san Um, he's 52 He used to work for nintendo and uh, he was one of the people that helped make the super fx chip Okay, which is uh, how they were able to do star fox and three great stuff like that. Yeah, um, so at one point He was working on a uh, a vr gaming system for nintendo and it was called the supervisor Interesting, uh, and it was canceled in favor of the virtual boy So the interesting thing about this is that apparently So apparently the supervisor, uh, self supervisor Super visor had, um Head tracking It was an actual headset you wore not one of the sat on the table side head tracking it had Full 3d. It had full color gambit And it was basically what he actually said it's basically an oculus rift for an hgc vibe today Just with lower quality screens because those quality screens didn't expect that. Yeah, but it's basically exactly what exists today And he and he's just like and nintendo canned it when uh, gumpai yokoi. I know i'm i'm butchering in his name Uh game creator of game boy, uh Said now we're gonna go a virtual boy instead. He just out of nowhere. They were almost done with it And they're like, yeah, we're going virtual boy Uh and So then he went off to uh some like hasbro I think he went to hasbro and they were going to include the technology with a new video game system We were going to launch it was codenamed toaster But it never actually fantastic codename it never actually launched and apparently the reason that hasbro and nintendo wouldn't launch That particular product is they were worried about lawsuits Because it's something you wear on your head that takes away your vision So what if someone's wearing it and while they're wearing it the accidentally cut them some of the knife or fall down the stairs Lawsuit lawsuit lawsuit law in today's world. That sounds absolutely ridiculous. Yeah Like yeah an accident can happen, but you know what you're doing when you block your vision Yeah, and you'd have to be corded up anyways. Yeah, so Yeah, no one's going to be using a knife with a vr headset on you don't not I mean, I guess maybe because cameras all the other side, but that's that's a that's a whole other different thing Yeah, so like My thing is is one nintendo could have been literally the kings of vr before vr even became a thing Now it doesn't mean it would have been successful. It could have been like a dream cast It could have been like two like too far ahead of its time people aren't ready for it But my thing is setting aside the fact they were all worried about the lawsuits I wonder where vr would be today if this thing came out because The way that he describes it is this is an htc vibe, but in the 90s with lower quality screens So where would vr be today if that just came out back then? Yeah Like yeah, you never had a quality screen, but would we be to the point today where it's just glasses like Look, there's your vr headset. Yeah, right? Would that be where we are today? Maybe if vr technology had actually come out back then because like all the millions and billions of dollars invested in nintendo Just hadn't already sitting there. All right And then went a different direction and now nintendo's excuse now to go with vr's Oh, we're waiting for it to be more to use a friend. They're waiting for it to be like this This basically what nintendo's waiting for but they could have probably had it there like this if they had just jumped in on it Back in the 90s when they actually had the technology and had people developing it and they're like we're about losses We're gonna go with this tabletop thing like you could have just asked them to make their's tabletop Make it tabletop with a swivel so they don't wear it on their heads But no so they're like, you know what we got this other thing in the works We're gonna go with this really crappy all red virtual boy thing. Oh, yeah anyways I would like to It would be interesting to find out if the supervisor prototype if that ever Public anywhere well it existed because when he talks about how it had all this functionality It was almost ready to go. It means to have prototypes. The question is what happened to those prototypes Because hasbro never launched it. Hasbro might might has really probably the one that has it because there were the last people The partner for it. Yeah, but man that would be sweet to see What what was like all of a sudden you watch him bring it out and be like That's an oculus rift Just yeah with a 90s style to it. Yeah, well and It'd be oh and where did it plug? Oh it plugged directly into your super nintendo Like what and then actually if you go back and you follow the oculus rift back like who created the oculus lift Somehow ties back to nintendo. Yeah, they're using the supervisor. Yeah as the oculus Because it was like they're great Grandfather's uncle that that worked with the nintendo and passed the Story and idea down to this guy and this guy went. Oh, that's a great idea I just thought it was interesting that Like many things in nintendo's past They were either ahead of their time with something or they chose not to do something that would have drastically changed the way Video games are today if that would have launched back then popular or not It would have drastically changed the way vr would have ended up being today Um, you know, it's just like when they backed out of the sony deal Like what would the video industry industry look if sony and nintendo were actually working together instead of being separate On video games like just imagining what that future could have been We don't know it. Maybe it would have been terrible, but we just don't know Um, and yeah nintendo like some people someone in the comments on that video brought up other things nintendo has done that was a hundred other times like when uh back in like 1988 like when they had like the The television stuff going on which was like internet play on stuff like bs zelda and like and they only had that in japan Like but they actually released that it just wasn't popular enough for them to bring it anywhere Right, so like that's a little different that that's a dream cast That's a we brought something to market, but it was too far ahead of this time people weren't ready for it People would understand it. Yeah possible, but um, but this is different like It's just crazy to me right they had An hgc vibe with lower quality screens back in the 90s They could have released that's and they said now virtual boy will the n64 even be here be here if they would have brought out that that beast Can you imagine super mario 64, but it's first person Holy Like everyone's mind was blown super mario 64 On but imagine that it's a first person vr game and that's their first experience with it. Yeah Oh, that'd be mario kart with that stuff. Heck yeah That's what I'm saying. They're like, I'm not a big into vr guy, but imagine like if I grew up with vr, right? My mind might be different. Yeah, I might not be able to play games without vr There's some people that try out vr like I don't ever want to play a game without it again Okay, cool. I've not liked that now, but I'm also grown up in such a way of playing games That it's hard for me to change. Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, I was hard in motion I can see I can definitely see the appeal. Yeah, so I just thought it was an interesting story. That's crazy Oh Hey, um guy, I want like if you have still have one of these just chilling in your house How much how much money? Yeah, right? I just want to touch it. Yeah, I don't even need to keep it I want a picture with it. Can I want it on my face? It's going to become the new thumbnail for my whole channel Can I review it? It's going to be I I'm going to put it on and there's going to be a cartoon version of me made Of the picture that's taken with me wearing that thing and that's the new mascot. Oh, yeah for sure I'm sorry bomb logo bomb logo. Goodbye. I'm logo. We have a new one It's going to be with the supervisor on and with the power glove. Oh, yes Yes, I'm going to be the new captain nintendo dude. Yeah, buddy, man. All right Well, that's gonna that's going to wrap it up for this episode of the tenor prime podcast As always you can catch the podcast over on itunes. Just look up nintendo prime podcast It'll pop up. Uh, there's only one so pretty simple for you guys You could also follow us on pod bean. I don't remember the url I think it's podby.com slash neat chance, but I'm not 100% sure But there'll be a link down in the description on our video version for you to check that out as well That's more so for our android users. Uh, we I think are on google play now I'm pretty sure that we're on google play So if you happen to use google play, that's how you listen to all your podcasts. Look us up on there We should be on there. I think we've been on there for the past few months But I don't use it so I don't check it and it's weird because I have an android and I shouldn't be using itunes anymore But I still do even though I can't use it on my phone. Yeah. Yeah. I'm weird. Right. I grew up with itunes. So it's just what I use Um, yeah, I use an android Anyways, um That being said, I if you would like to get early access to the podcast It was at the beginning we'll talk about it at the end here Be sure to go to support us on patreon.com slash nintendo prime for as little as one dollar a month You actually get to play multiplayer games with us during live streams $5 a month You get early access to the audio version of the podcast $10 a month You get early access to the live stream of the actual video recording of the podcast So you get to like five days early Oh, and by the way, if you're a $20 backer on patreon, you can be on an episode of the nintendo prime podcast every month That you are a $20 backer Look at this. Is that out of all the tears? Oh wait, we technically have a hundred dollar tier But that's you guys don't care about that. Yeah, that that has to do with people who want to like advertise on our stuff Right Which only has happened one time and it failed like we did the ads but the person didn't like Yeah, didn't see a return. So he's like yeah, or not. Yeah, so what a surprise. Yeah, and again Keep forgetting the place with everything For podcast related and you're talking about There's no other place in nintendo stay right here at nintendo prime Dot com or dot net. Sorry Don't go to dot com. Don't go to dot com Owns it and they tried to sell it back to me because it was originally mine I'll let it expire dot net and I got dot net and then they tried to sell it back to me like Oh, do you want to buy this by for $3,000? I'm like, no, no, no, you can keep it. It's cool It's it's cool. Maybe when I'm when I'm rolling in that that money someday. I'll buy it back But probably not probably not ever to be honest Um, yeah So it's right and what's interesting about that is I think a week after this podcast airs Nintendo private on that will start being updated almost daily Um, because uh, I mean, I'll just be straight up with you guys We're doing it so we can get media passes for e3 if we go next year And we don't even know if we're going but if we are gonna go We're gonna get media passes because I'm tired of the restrictions that are coming on media You pay $250 per ticket to go and then you can't even like bring anything in but your phone basically. Yeah. Yeah But as media you could basically roll in a freaking wagon Of equipment if you want I could probably bring in my mixer and everything I can bring you probably everything. Yeah, be honest. The restrictions are like so relaxed on media I can carry the tripod with my camera on my shoulder and just walk right in Wasn't wasn't the other or like the exhibitor pass even more restricted than the media pass to no no no Oh the exhibitor pass had its own restrictions. Okay, but it was the um business. Oh the business a thousand dollar business pass You can't even get your laptop into the event What's the point You can't bring your like you're there for business professional reasons and you can't bring a laptop in That's all crazy But why because the dimensions of your laptop will not fit in with the dimensions you're allowed to bring in Yeah, I would have looked right at the security. I'm like, dude. I'm how much how much you could pay for this event? Okay, cool. Well, guess what I paid a thousand dollars That's more than you're making over the next three days and I can't bring my laptop in I got a business meeting upstairs with sugar on me a moto. What the hell are you doing? Get out of here. Yeah Oh, so yeah, it's oh, it's crazy. So we're just like no we need a media pass So, uh, the thing is and you might be like, oh just update in the website. How's that going to get you media pass? Well, it turns out we have a facebook account at facebook.com slash nintendo prime That has 60 000 plus followers and as it turns out we only need 10 000 views per month On their ticket to get one ticket. So if we get 20 000 views per month, that's two tickets You want know how easy that is for us? We experimented with this a little bit before and within one week We had 10 000 views because we have enough people who follow some facebook that followed me from the zelda informer days That like getting nintendo news all the time. Yeah So what i'm saying is And then you might be like, oh, then why don't you do that? Well, because we can get like, okay Cool 10 000 a week so you can get 40 000 a month. Why aren't you doing that? Well, because you make like no money doing it you make like three cents Yeah to make any money off of an actual website you need to get like 900 000 a million views a month or something that it's crazy to actually make any money off a website So it's because there's no it's really time consuming and we don't make any money doing it Whereas on youtube I can get like 300 000 views and make like 1500 dollars But welcome to the same point time youtube channels are way restricted At e3 Yeah, let me give you an idea. So you only need 10 000 views on a media website to get a media pass, right? For youtubers Let me just start first off. You need 100 000 subscribers. Okay, fine cool. That's your threshold 100 000 subscribers cool I could deal with that. Yeah You need 50 000 views. I thought it was per video. I thought it was 55 Whatever 50 to 55 whatever yeah per video. We're not talking about per month. Yeah per Video when you only need 10 000 views per month on a website, but you need 50 000 per video Let me tell you anyone who's got 100 000 subscribers out there will tell you they don't average 50 000 views per video Nobody does it. That's that's a half youtube doesn't send out notifications to half of their subscribers That's that's a half That's half over half your subscribers watching every video you make doesn't happen. No And most like I have what 36 000 subscribers probably only like a thousand of them actually get notifications I do somehow Why me sure magic And i'm on the channel. It's because you go to the video to put it on the website. Yeah. Yeah, right? Oh Oh, you copied that url. Yeah, how do you know I copied it? I don't know you're using chrome And now I know everything you did Right. Anyways, all right folks. That's gonna do it. Uh, you can follow me Uh, I'm I'm just gonna mention that in center prime when you can follow me at ninty prime You can also follow eric on twitter as well At emo 8790, uh, and I do want to mention a little shout out. I do have a second channel Um, I'm not putting a lot of content out. It's like a single video a week at this point Um, but it's a it's a place where I I could talk about other video game news Um, I could talk about tech news If I happen to get the new parts I want to build a computer like the standalone video on that would go up over there Even though I'd probably live stream it on nintendo prime The standalone video after the fact would probably go up on that channel Uh, just just so I can add in some commentary and talk about the process and pretty sure our standalone video that we built This rig with is over there. Nope. That's on that's on this channel. We built that before we ordered to the zeldin former Okay, so it's not technically on zeldin former's youtube No zeldin former's facebook page and then yeah this youtube channel Okay, so I actually have that somewhere. I don't know if it's live, but it's somewhere. It's somewhere on the channel Um, so yeah, it's one of those things where uh, it's just an outlet for me to do something besides nintendo Um, I do not I'm out on camera very often unless I'm talking about a specific product Um, I it's mostly voice over gameplay because it's just easier for me to do and I don't make money doing it It's just just a side thing just for fun. So I'm not gonna put super high production quality into it because that's what this channel is for Yeah, and all my time is spent on that so if I could find like a half hour to do a video over there I'll do it. So it's sporadic But uh, obviously if it if it gets to you know, a certain amount of views per video I'll probably start putting out more I give the top viewed videos like 186 views or whatever. Yeah, that's great Um, you know if we start getting over a thousand per video That's one of those things where it's like, all right now I should probably start making a little more content over there Um, and I know it's like you shouldn't use views for motivation But it's kind of it's more so a justification for me to spend more time over there I would love to make more videos over there. But my focus is here. I didn't turn the prime Or prime things happen prime things happen. All right, guys. We'll catch you in the next one. Peace out Every time every time one of these times martin's gonna leave it in i'm gonna be like martin What I actually know remixing all the times you've done it together to see if you stay in in tune Online