 Welcome all to Eat NATO for Breakfast, episode 12. I am Nora Garcia talking to you from Madrid, where the next NATO summit will be held at the end of June. Today, Francisca left me alone. That's why I called for backup and three amazing feminist activists from the World March of Women came to be with us. Bush Rajali from Pakistan, Rubaode from Palestine, and Yildiz Temur-Turkan from Turkey. What an international breakfast we are going to have today. Today, we are going to talk with them about the war industry, NATO, and the power of transnational corporations. In fact, the World March of Women are doing an amazing work on these fields. Since 2013, they have been organizing on the 24th of April, the International Day of Feminist Solidarity against transnational corporations. Welcome, Yildiz, Ruba and Bushra. Tell us, why are you organizing this International Day and what do you have planned for tomorrow in Turkey, Palestine, and Pakistan? Thank you, Nora and sisters, Bushra and Ruba, to meet together during the breakfast on Saturday. And so we are eating NATO together. Thank you very much for inviting us. It is a very important day today. It's just a day before our global day of solidarity against transnational companies. So tomorrow is 24th of April. It is the day when Rana Plaza collapsed in Bangladesh in 2013. So right after this event, we decided to have a global action every year around these issues regarding transnational companies and denouncing them and their violations, but also as a movement, we work together with all allied movements to dismantle corporate power globally. It is important to raise awareness, their violations in the field of labor, but it is not just limited to the labor field because they are the ones who decide the fate of our planet and the fate of humanity and life over a planet in general, to make more profit from the war and militarization. And recently we are in a situation. We are all located in territories who are in a war. Sometimes it's not hot confrontations, but as we call hybrid wars. And this war is initiated by imperialist powers and NATO is their global military spearhead of this imperialist power. So we, as an anti-imperialist feminist movement has very clear stand against NATO and imperialism. And we wanted to connect this day, the day against transnationals and against corporate power. We connect this day to denounce militarization and our industry, which is an increasing in many countries, not only in the North, not only in the global North, Europe or in USA, but military expenditure is increasing everywhere because Palestine has different status, but Pakistan and Turkey and our governments feel that this escalation of militarization and aggression and also increase of nuclear weapons is a threat to the existence of our country, our nation. So they feel themselves under threat by the big powers. So what they do as a reflection to this policy as a reaction, and they increase their military budget as well. They invest more to military industry. So this is itself creates a big, big problem for us as women because we as women, we are the common enemy in every war and militarism is very much associated with the patriarchal and patriarchal system is not just patriarchy, but all systems of oppressions, they need wars and militarization to maintain their power over the oppressed people and over women and over the peoples in the world. Thank you Yildiz, and Ruba and Bushra, what do you have planned in your country for this important action day tomorrow? Thanks for hosting this broadcast. For us in Palestine in our region, North Africa and Middle East, this year is different in terms of the variations of economic and social condition in the world. As a result of the outbreak of the coronavirus and the humanity, economic and social disasters, that befall the world which reveled the dips of global capitalism crisis and the fall of its falls, slogging about integrity, values, democracy and human rights to show the ugly pace of capitalism and dealing the corona crisis that's created of the human being, the weakness of social and health structure and their ability to meet the demand of their people. Decided the capitalism system has developed the property of profit over values and the human being and for this it did not hesitate to use all means of oppression and oppression to strengthen the domination over the goods of people of the earth and for that its works and works today more than ever before to strike all the gains achieved by the poor people and the classes. For most of which of its strike international norms and agreements beside the exterior of in formulating global policies against all noble human value and norms. On this day, April 25, the memory of Rana Plaza in our region area in the MENA region, we will take the street and electronic network to say no to war and the war industry. Where we will work to publish interviews with the workers who are exploited and who's right are violent and how we have no social security and we will continue to conduct wars scientific occupation in Palestine, Yemen Western Sahara and other region continue us to organize a worldwide struggle against militarism in order to end the war. We will continue us, the feminist struggle for peace until the old woman in all region are liberated. Thank you. Thank you, Ruma. Bushra, anything to add for tomorrow's plan? Thank you so much. I'm very excited to reply on that question because we have different plans for not only to set our demands to pressurize our governments but also to remember the sacrifices of the working class people and especially the workers who have lost their precious lives in the incident of Rana Plaza in Bangladesh and it is not only one incident actually. We see that in every region in every country the laborers and the workers are being exploited because of this corporatization and the process of the multinationals and the transnational corporations when they actually go to the developed countries, developing countries or underdeveloped countries they have their own interest and they have their own plans to and they rely on the natural resources local resources especially the human resources as well so we are the movements and especially the feminist movements have been focusing on demanding the end of transnational corporations' exploitation in our regions, in our countries where they don't have the respect for the local laws they don't have respect for our natural resources and also they provide poor working conditions to the workers and another very important aspect where we will be going to highlight we see that they are a huge profit from our countries and the whole this profit it goes back to overseas and they are not interested and the priority is not there to invest in the local country so these are the situations where all countries from South Asia will be and especially the other countries will also be running a Twitter campaign to put collective pressure and to make our visibility to our demands as well as we will be talking about the situation the recent situation in Afghanistan and especially we will be talking about the basic and fundamental rights for the girls and women in Afghanistan the second issue we will be discussing the economic crisis in Sri Lanka and this whole phenomenon of the capitalism has been widely exposed and what would be going to the political scenario in Sri Lanka and also we will be talking about the recent situation in Pakistan because we see that this whole corporate structures and back by the imperialistic designs for our regions have manipulated all political scenarios in our country so we will be discussing all these things this warmongering the NATO plans and the foreign interference into the local politics so these things will be we are going to discuss tomorrow in the webinar where the situation of Pakistan, Afghanistan and Sri Lanka will be discussed and we will also be remembering the workers movements their sacrifices and the new modes of exploitation of the workers in this region because all of the countries are very important and their economy and their role of transnational corporations have proved that they don't respect the people's right they don't respect the workers' rights in our countries rather they are only focusing their own profit and how to exploit the natural resources yeah very important things that you are mentioning you are like almost framing the objective that we put together here in this NATO for breakfast it is important tomorrow everyone that can join all the women's actions all the women's march to do so there are a lot of interesting things we have based it on the chat the war march of women declaration for you to read it and also to share it but before we begin with all our important questions with our sisters I just wanted to remind you that it NATO for breakfast thank you very much for being with us every week but it is part of the peace summit NATO international process towards the NATO summit in Madrid in June so check our website sign our declaration check out our arts and culture calls and join the peace process so let's begin we are going to begin with the elites we want to frame a bit the situation of the war industry and for that we just need to remember the Iraq war to acknowledge that behind the war always lies economic interests including weapon production and sale pipelines and energy security or access to natural resources with profits to be made at the expense of human lives and the planet in the news we read about the global consequences of the sanctions on Russia for food production or in the energy supply chain there is also no secret that the big beneficiaries of the European Union stopping buying gas from Russia are the US companies in fact the agreement that increases by 68% the liquefied natural gas purchases to the USA with respect to last year happened after a Biden visit to the European Commission it's like Biden is the manager of all those companies this is how in fact the center of the free world the way that Ursula von der Leyen called it works and in fact we have to acknowledge the importance of the war industry because 12 billion bullets are produced every year that is almost enough to kill everyone in the planet twice we know also that 90% of the weapons manufactured in the world are used so there is a straightforward connection of producing weapons and producing wars and we also know that the US is the largest weapons dealer in the world and a fundamental part of NATO's strategy so Jill did we wanted to begin understanding better what is the relationship between the war industry and NATO so NATO was established at the end of 1940s as a North Atlantic organization however it goes it turns to be a global military organization and policing the world and the people oppressed especially right now and we live in a multi-polar world today we mention that multi-polarity which is different from the previous context so we all need to revise our policies and strategies under this fact and we need to see how NATO transform from a regional alliance in fact it was never regional but it was a military organization or established during the Cold War then the world was bipolar and today trying to adapt itself into a new situation and in a multi-polar world and trying to create polarization to sustain itself because this system we call capitalist patriarchy and is in deep crisis and it needs to sustain itself and to accumulate more it is the nature of capital that's why we call it there is a the mental conflict right now in the world is life-capital conflict so in order to continue, maintain itself it needs, it is obliged to continue accumulation process how to accumulate that means accumulate what does it mean accumulation, plundering of our bodies making woman labor is a kind of slave labor deep and unpaid labor using female labor even in condition of pandemic we were responsible for care and everything plundering our bodies and destroying our autonomy over our life and bodies and second is that exploiting our territories resources underground resources and so it needs more exploitation and increased colonization, colonial policies in order to maintain itself in order to survive for that capitalist system because the system is collapsing it's in deep crisis and there is no future, better future for humanity and this that's why in order to maintain that accumulation system capitalism global needs militarization and war and to exploit to conquer more places and more countries and in such a anti-polar world and many countries creating a counter hegemony to the existing imperialist hegemony so in order to dominate those countries they need a force and for transnational companies is a driving force they rule this world and they rule the state all the state institutions are privatized even armies are privatized today we mentioned proxy wars and hybrid wars and the monopoly over the arms were privatized so that's after neoliberal era right now transnational companies are the biggest force ruling the world even the imperial states how do they do this and there is very good study made by transnational institute and it is available on tni.org especially Europe how European Union so called establish for peace it's a union of peace in Europe how they flame this fire and to increase armament and fueling the wars and conflicts in the region under influence of transnational companies it's a big companies mainly based in France Germany, Spain and UK and they have a lobbying institutions so called lobbying institution how they rule the governments and how they are the big force behind the governments so in order to struggle with them to have a strategy how to struggle with them we need to expose how what is the mechanism those companies corporations use to rule the governments in the north and also in the south not only in Europe in Spain or Germany in Europe but also in Romania, Bulgaria and Turkey they invest more to the military arm industry and under pressure of big corporations in these countries because they also export arms and weapons to the region, to Middle East and to other places and they also have their own hinterland and those companies are the big force behind the governments so today we can easily say that it is the state is privatized and appropriated by big industry and mainly big arm industry thank you so much it's very important to have this general framework as you were saying like in my country exports a lot of weapons that for instance go and end up in Yemen that is a silence war that is been happening around nine years targeting civilians kids schools so there is no guarantee or anything comparable like when they are talking of this is a concrete target it's like a clean situation like people die, people get hurt countries are removed from possible future and we are responsible for that and all this situation is ending up with all our countries investing more and more in weapons we just hear that even my country yesterday or two days ago they are sending I don't know how many tons of weapons there and as we were pointing out 90% of the weapons produced have been used and killing people so this is something that we need to expose now we want to talk as you were pointing out the elites as well with the situation in other countries that maybe are far away from the normal NATO alliances but are very important to understand the world we are living in so we are so happy today to talk to Bushra we need to understand in fact some of the elements that you were pointing out on your introduction what has been the role of NATO in your region as you were saying Pakistan and Afghanistan are very close and they have been suffering a lot of differences and has been impacted by this previous NATO strategy concept the war on terror and I think it's very important to point out how this war in Afghanistan for 20 years has impacted the region and what is the role of NATO there yes no actually we all see that NATO has a role to to defence their territories in case of attack from any enemy country this was the main objective for the formation of this military alliance actually but now we see that they have adopted another role which is more dangerous I don't see that I can't say that their military role and their other nature of the roles are less harmful but I see that now the design and model of interferences has been changed and we see that not only their military cooperation to each countries is very harmful harmful for the other countries and the global peace on this planet but as well as we see that they have a role in the politics and their interference through the democratic institutions or in the name of promoting democracy in the countries has been very well exposed now and we see that after the attack in US in 2001 we see that how these all countries got together and they decided to invade basically in Afghanistan through their military interventions and on the other side we see that there are other one of the objective was to dismantle this network of Osama bin Laden but on the other hand the other objective was to develop a self-sustaining democratic Afghan government but we see that after 20 years what has happened with the country where this all program was designed and also what has happened in Pakistan being the neighboring country to Afghanistan we see that the border of Afghanistan became the hub of all these this chaotic and destruction and exploitation and we see that the price of this interference was not only paid by the peoples and especially the women of Afghanistan but also the price has been paid by the people of Pakistan as well where we have lost more than 80,000 lives in our country because of new culture of the violence behaviors and the violent mujahedins and also the emergence of Taliban and the trainings and the financial and technical assistance provided by both sides of the border Pakistan and Pakistan it created a lot of problems for the people of the both countries and especially I would say that this this was a total failure of NATO in Afghanistan and I think the NATO partner countries the members they should have the realization and that should have learnt the lesson from the case of Afghanistan how they have been failed to provide assistance or support to the governments the civilian governments or to end the militarization or to end the violence from the armed groups or the religious fundamentalist groups in our regions but it was a total failure because of their own interest the objective was not to provide or to ensure the human rights or to protect the promotion of the human rights in our countries but their interest was to make their own position because Pakistan has a very geopolitical strategic position in this region so the only purpose I see that I understand that the only purpose of NATO interference in this region was to manipulate the political systems in this region also to exploit the resources and to start a cold war and to control over the China and Russia so we see that how the people of Afghanistan and the culture of Afghanistan has been destroyed by NATO as well as the civilian regimes and the governments in Pakistan like the Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto government was thrown out by and this prime minister was hanged by the army which was actually by manipulated by the US led NATO and especially the US led programs for this region and now recently we have seen that in Pakistan there is another shift in the political regime which is alleged by that government that the US designed for the future is quite involved and let us see how things are getting clear day by day so right now I would say that NATO was a total failure when they have started the military interventions and also the political design for this region was a total failure and it has destroyed peace in our countries it has destroyed the environment and economy also ultimately we see that NATO interventions or interferences has always been a threat to the social justice in our countries you are totally right like they didn't learn any lesson from Afghanistan but we as a social movement as feminists and as peace militants we cannot forget what happened the destruction and the misery that brought to Afghanistan and to all the area as you were saying Pakistan is living now like an instability moment recently we saw a new president after a motion of no confidence they have been accusations of coup attempt back by the US but also it's important to point out one important thing that is that US somehow wanted a NATO base in Pakistan that means if you see the map of NATO bases they are always in a very strategic places that are very important for the project of NATO so in this region that is in the middle of this war against China and Russia what does Pakistan have to do with the new Cold War promoted by the US and NATO please help us to better understand all of this see we see that Pakistan is sharing its border with Iran Afghanistan, China and Pakistan was extending its friendly relationship with Russia because recently our prime minister ousted prime minister visited Russia when the war on Ukraine just started very next day actually started when the prime minister was on its official visit over there and see the role of China how China synchronizing its power through investing a lot on the economic framework in Pakistan like the project of CPAC is very very strategic and you will see that how this way of friendship like in the countries like Pakistan that the project of CPAC will be going on and on and it will go into Iran and then it will go to Afghanistan and we will see that it will be forwarding towards the Central Asia also so we see that how the China takes the roads and how this kind of development will be a kind of threat to the U.S. model for this region so we think that this kind of new relationship between the countries like China in Afghanistan China in Iran China in Pakistan and then in the Central Asia we will see that the role of NATO they will come up with the other design maybe somehow different designs and models what we have been witnessing in the past but now this time at least we can see that Pakistan was very hit hardly because this time if it is true that yes the whole shift in the regime was somehow or totally backed by the U.S. we see that this time is a different model and this time they have been using the our democratic institutions to make such changes in this region also I will see that Pakistan is a nuclear power you see and the role of U.S. and hasn't ended in Afghanistan so far I see that whenever the we see that Russia has invaded on or impose the war on Ukraine it is evident that NATO will be coming up with a different model or with a different design to control to have a better control over Russia because it is new era and the new modern modern strategies will be adopted by NATO as well as the in the presence of China and Russia we will see that how things will be going on but the first evidence is that the regime shifting in Pakistan this is the first result of that design project which not visible right now but we will see that the things will be going on in this way this is why we we are demanding that NATO must be banned the war on Ukraine must be ended now Russia the China has invested a lot in Pakistan through you know throwing loans China is the largest creditor to Pakistan so we see that this imbalance of the military the economy and the US role along with this NATO forces it is a very threatening situation and new cold war or maybe new war in this region would be in the design with some modern ideas or different with different models it's so important one thing I want to highlight that in all these things and US has invested a lot to create religious fundamentalism in our region and in reaction to all that you see that the emergence and the production of this the mentality and mindset of like Taliban's who are so much violent not only the people of the both sides but especially the women's rights and the girls' right are on the threat and we see that whenever it happens in Afghanistan like girls cannot be the part of public life the schools are closed for the secondary school girls so education is banned the independent mobility and movement within the country and without for outside the country for women is totally banned so we see that this kind of black days are coming back and US knows the NATO forces are well aware about that but the emerging superpowers and the imperialistic design for this region has created a lot of problem not only for our economies our political process the country's sovereignty and also the women's rights especially are under threat it's very important what you are saying and I think that we need to know more in Asia we have to take a really important idea we have to work together and to build alliances because it's going to be one of the main battlefields for this world regime change as you were saying the world is being divided by two again and we see that outside Europe and the global north the sentiment and the feeling about what's going on it's very different and we need to learn and make alliances to stop this new era that is going to be one of terror one of war and one of economic impact for all countries so now we go from Pakistan to Palestine because today we are talking also about things that maybe we don't know about that are the violence by the media that are not at the front page in Europe and in the global north because while the world's attention is focused on the crisis in Ukraine equally serious developments are taking place in other parts of the world like the recent attack of Israel occupation forces against the Palestinian people in Gaza and al-Aqsa mosque with at least 150 Palestinian injured terrible news in fact the arms race and military spending is rising worldwide and affects all conflicts we know that the U.S. money helps Israel develop one of the most advanced militaries in the world and that those funds enabled Israel to buy sophisticated U.S. military equipment as well as develop the Israel military industry in fact the agreement signed in 2016 by then President Obama plans a total package of 38 billion U.S. dollars in military aid for the decade 2017 to 2028 for Israel in words of the U.S. Department of State these assistance aid for the decade help transform the Israel defense forces into one of the world's most capable effective militaries entering the Israel military industry and technology sector into one of the largest exporters of military capabilities worldwide so how all this military industry U.S. relations with Israel and this apartheid regime is actually related and how is impacting the Palestinian people in this critical moment Ruba you are muted hello do you hear me the Zionist entity considered that it's a strategic relationship with the United States is much more important than its relation with NATO as Washington provide it with military, political and economic cover the Zionist entity needs in a way that suppresses of all of Europe there is no need for NATO as along as the United States stand behind the Zionist entity and support it the aspects of American support for the Zionist entity were in billion of dollars as the American military aid contributed the development of iron dome the missiles of the Palestinian resistance and the development of anti-missile system the United States deployed the expand radar system in occupied Palestinian terrorists which had the power to direct hostile ministers and supplies with F-35 fighter jet the answer to this equation has to be based on understanding the natural of structure relationship between the the Zionist entity and the embryoism country especially the United States of America as well as the functional rule of the Zionist entity in serving embryoism interest in the region specifically and the world general the Zionist entity since inspections has defined its function on the on the ground at the global capitalism system and the global embryoism has played the main rule in the establishment of the state of the entity on the ruins of the project to liberate the Palestinian people their land and their future the main goal of the embryoism countries in creating the Zionist entity of the land of Palestine was the primary at setting us a fragrant function body in the heart of the Arab territory in the region to protect and serve embryoism instant in the Middle East and the region general and therefore realizing this fact will lead us to realize the national of structural relationship between the Zionist entity and the embryoism country and their military alliance called NATO the continuous extents of this entity and its performance of its functional rule makes its role as the embryo type of the embryoism regions lead by the United States of American to inject all support of this entity especially the military support so that the Zionist entity can continue to play its function rule as the outlet to continue and to protect all embryoism instant of the region the most important of which which is grounding the plunder of world especially all world and the region in the context this relation developed between the Zionist entity state and the embryoism capitalism region lead by the United States after the success of this entity improves itself military advance force in the region by giving this entity an important role in implementing implementing the security and military policies of embryoism countries in counting in the region and extending this rule to include many areas in Africa and Asia and we can say many areas and we can say that the state of this Zionist entity has been transformed by the by this strong independence this interdependence of this relationship into an important actor in the security policies of this embryoism and their military alliance called NATO as this Zionist entity was given a rule in military industries especially this industry that depends on the high level technology so that so called high tech and for the state of the entity to turn into a member deceived membership in the NATO to the important element implementation of the security military policies of the global embryoism system for outside NATO and to play a more important rule than NATO member in achieving embryoism goal for example the relation between Iran and Arab and Arab region in the state of embryoism control such as Syria Iraq, Yemen and Libya to note to note that the Zionist entity played an important rule in implementing many military security policies in the region with note that agreement included by the occupation of the Arab country and the Gulf state will develop towards establishing military besides for the entity in the land of the Gulf in the attempt stage of the Islamic country in Iraq and control the Arab Gulf to protect the Gulf region and protected the energy source oil and gas controlled by the embryoism region to stop up this important and control function rule of the Zionist entity within the global embryoism system play an important role in strengthening the stats of the Zionist entity in the system not only the strengthening the relation between it and the world embryoism country and between it and American embryoism but between it the various status of the embryoism system especially NATO this lead to an important conclusion that the criminal and the resistance process practised by the Zionist entity against the Palestinian Arab people originally their support to Turkey by the Europe country that climbed democracy and preventing of human rights this provide that political is really driving the interest of not by principle and slogan the embryoism countries interacts at all levels in the extent of the entity in countries and feel expected the strength of its presence on a main arm to provide the interest of the embryoism countries blending the goods of the Arab people perhaps the basic position of the embryoism country especially the member NATO and the Europe and the Europe Union their unlimited support from the Ukrainian region and standing against the Russian military operations come to a terrible tour face of this region and they decide toward economic security instead and not as they climb by raising the banner of democracy and human rights democracy and human rights have been absent from the Palestinian people and they're just causes the pace of the length of oppression killing and thinking cleaning the practice by the state of the entity through with the history of extents of this honest entry where while we find our region economic their economic financial military institute accelerating in the support of the new new region in Ukraine which is calendar with policy called double standards by reviewing the mechanism of the occupation of Palestine we come to conclusion that the occupation is substation of the replacement of the people instead the others that is the inclusion of the people with all historical and cultural components their staplish on the geographic border the conditions of the continuance of this stationary state is based on culture and historical discretion of the people of the social and economic structure of the political resistance mechanism mechanism the question is can occupation destroy the structure of people and exile them by military force here by the become clear the zonist ideology is beside of the occupation of land and people to kill and to dream to kill the dream of separation of the Palestinians that later on in one hand and kill the future time of the other hand by destroying the structure of the Palestinian people in all aspect in their life it's clean the behavior of the new zonist entity toward Jerusalem and especially what is happening today in the front of the eyes of the world and continuance incurgences to ask most to ask most and in this month of Ramadan inducting the occupation stand in the pattern of sovereignty and control the holy city and the concluding of the concept of the Jerusalem in this capital of the state is translating from the U.S. president from rejection of Jerusalem the capital of this state it cannot achieve this without control of the most and the current zonist government has a system and the great plan to concentrate the over the ask most few minutes sorry I know I think we need to wrap up because we are a bit behind time but you know that after every episode we produce in people's dispatch an article so if you want we will work on what's left from your from your presentation and we can include it on an article for everyone to read just few minutes I just I want a few minutes say these people our Palestinian people will not care about NATO or anyone else debased our awareness of NATO's the properties that their relationship with the Israeli it is will remind us strong military the political capital and make its approach globally and the Israeli relation with the European countries and the strengthening of this absence there especially in the military teams by acting by act activating the its exploring in the military integration and security all of this behind of the high level military cooperation between Israeli and the NATO as advanced by the principles of the active department in the operation of this Austrian military region also Israel is not a member of its but represented in the backbone in the region a seniorist in the occupation terrorism tell flakters between the escalation and the climb in line of the dynamics of the conflict of the Israeli planet. We believe NATO must be dis surrounded this and that voting right besides the authorities and colonelism region 3 times the world peace with the military lead by NATO thank you thank you in this context that when people say no to war and yes to peace should be everywhere. And the situation of the Palestinian people points out a lot of contradictions of those, as you were saying, that goes and talks about democracy and human rights. So it's very important in this moment of war, in this moment that we all need to think very carefully about the next steps for the world to look into Palestine and to see what is the path that we cannot follow and that has to stop. Thank you very much. We have it behind time. So I'm going to say goodbye. And then I will give you, I will give one minute to Yildiz say the final sentence and then we will leave you for the rest of the weekend till next Saturday. And remember tomorrow to join the World March of Women Transnational Corporation Day of Action. So Yildiz, final thought. Thank you, Nora, for reminder for tomorrow. And I just want to underline that today it showed us that we need a lot to exchange as women from each country suffering from NATO policies and US and imperialist policies. So we need to come together during the peace summit and convert this peace summit is a feminist space to be a feminist space as an alternative to that militarist patriarchal capitalist policies. So we need to raise our voice and raise our alternatives there during the peace summit in Madrid. So we want to invite all women and women's groups together with the World March of Women to be in the peace summit together with us to have more exchange there. Thank you so much, Yildiz. Thank you, Vishak, our amazing producer from People's Dispatch. See you next week. And remember, war and militarism is not going to solve our problems. We will, so we are going to work together towards the peace summit in Madrid. While they organize the summit of war, we organize the summit of peace. Thank you very much. See you next week. Thank you. Thank you.