 No, I feel good to eat. No, no, I feel good to eat. Maybe you should... No, this is made of plants. Can I try one? Yeah, of course you can. How much is that? It's free. Do you want to know the process of how we got this? Do you know what happened to the cat? What happened to the cat? No, I don't know. So how do you think we get cat milk? They have to be... how do females produce milk from being... From the cat? Yeah, so the cat has to be pregnant, doesn't she? Yes. You know, I've never thought about that. I didn't even know that the cat could be pregnant or not. Yeah, so what we do is we get the male ejaculate and we put it in the female and then she gets pregnant and we take the kittens away because we don't want the kittens drinking all the milk, do we? So the boys, they don't produce milk so we just put them in a bag and we get rid of them. And the females, we keep breeding for their milk. At the end of the day, we turn the cat into meat and leather and cat fur. So we sort of bulk gun them in the head. In Africa, some people eat it. Some people eat cats in Africa? Yeah. Oh, wow. I don't know why they eat it. It should be a domestic thing, but then people eat it. I don't know why. Do you think, like, it's bad? Like, sometimes activists say to us, oh, it's bad what you're doing to these cats for the milk, like, because it's cruel when we kill the cats and we take the kids. Do you like the taste? Yeah. It's good. You know, maybe if I get used to it. I've got a surprise for you. If you get used to it, you would support the cat industry. Okay, let me show you this. This is actually, this is what it is. I'm just tricking people to think it's cats. And I've got a sticker and I put this on here. And I made this myself. This is actually what it is. It's vegan. I'm trying to tell you that I put this sticker on myself to trick people. Oh, okay. This is actually all made of plants. Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah. Because I was trying to, like, get people to... But you know where I could live, it was you. Sorry? It was you. It was you? It was you. I find it. Yeah, well, this is in the supermarket, right? And, like, yeah, let's see. But, like, the process that I explained for cats actually happens to cows in the dairy industry. Oh, okay. Yeah. I see. This is actually... So that's what happens to cows in the dairy industry, but I'm actually promoting not using animals at all. Yeah, that's good then. Yeah, okay. I don't want to harm any animal. Most people get upset if it's a cat. Yeah. But not if it's a cow, and I want to know why that is. Why people get so angry about a cat being used the same way as we use a cow. But then I come and tell them it's okay. I'm not using any animals, not hurting any animals. That's good then. I'm not using controversy. Yeah, it's good as well, but people might think it's not good, because now I feel guilty. No, no, yeah. Now I feel guilty. Maybe you should... No, this is made of plants, all of it, so don't worry. This is just a sticker, it's fake. Yeah, now I feel guilty to have had... Cow's milk. You said that it was cat milk. Okay. No, no, I shouldn't have done that. You shouldn't have done it, but okay. Okay, let me stay on that thought, because do you go to the shop and buy cows, cheese? Yeah. Okay, but you don't feel guilty for the cow. I feel guilty for the cow. Do you feel guilty for the cows? They get... Yeah, I know. We've been used to it now. Yeah. We eat cows. But is it making okay because everyone does it? It's not okay, but people are used to things. Yeah. Why don't you feel bad for the cow? The cow goes through the exact process that I said. Because the cow, you hold it, it's just like a baby, you know. Cows are beautiful too, have you seen... I know, but it's something different. But what about like cows? I don't personally like cattle, but I see people taking it as their babies. But cows feel pain like a cat does, they want to live like a cat does. So what's the difference? We're used to it's... It's normalized. It's normalized by the society and sink the beginning. Yeah. If it's animals. Yeah, but I don't want to find out what's normal. I want to find out what's moral or what's ethical, what's the right thing to do. The right thing to do is not to do it. It's not to stop it. It's to stop doing it to them, isn't it? We have to stop doing it to the animals. Well, you can find... Yeah, I've got this here. Open this. So instead of milk, you can find plant milk or vegan cheese or vegan yogurt. Oh, yeah, that would be fun. Instead of meat, you can get tokyo, legumes or vegan meat. Thank you so much. Just read through this pamphlet, but have a think about what that is. It's anywhere... I could put you and... I think it's very good what you're doing. Oh, no, that's okay. Your contribution will be what you do for the animals, so just stop paying for them to be in these slaughterhouses and harming them, and that's all I would ask for. Yeah, I think I could write something about it. Yeah, yeah. Like, if you go to this... on here, like this here, Challenge 22, it's all free and you can sign up on Facebook and they help you out. Challenge 22, it's all free. God bless you. Take care. She was really nice. She was nice once she understood what was going on. There's a saying, and it's so true, and I've noticed it so much that it's easy to fool people than convinced them they've been fooled. So it's easy for me to fool someone into thinking this is cat's milk. It's a little bit harder for me to convince them that it's actually vegan and this is all a joke. Yeah. Hey, girls, do you want some cat cheese? It's made from cat's milk. I'm giving it away. Should I support your local cat farmer? No? Do you drink milk? This is cheese from a cat. Cheese from a cat? Do you eat cheese from a cat? What's the difference? True. True, true, true. You're right. Better go your thinking, didn't it? Ignore me. It's made of plants. I'm tricking people. It's vegan cheese. It's vegan cheese. It does. But I love meat. We don't want to be cruel to animals so we're trying to promote stopping the cruelty to animals. I love nature. I love animals. I used to love the taste of burgers and stuff but then I saw slaughterhouses and what we do to animals for dairy they all get slaughtered. What are you Australian on New Zealand? Australian, yeah. So I saw that and I was like, what's the 0.5 minute meal? A life of suffering for them. You're right. I don't think it's justified. I wouldn't do it to you. It's a dog, a cat. We're living unfortunately, isn't it? It's very bored though. Positive thinking. People are going out killing each other but I don't have to do it. That's what you do in your life that makes a difference. Can we take this? It's very nice. You can take it. This is vegan cheese. I'm about to pack it in anyway. Give this to someone. Thank you very much. Support your local cat farmer here. Give you fresh cat cheese. Our cat farmers get up at 4am every morning to milk the cats. You look like you'd like some cat cheese. You don't eat cheese from animals? Yeah. What's the difference? What's the matter with our cat's milk? Same as cow's milk from a different animal. Want to try some cat's cheese? Freshly milked cats. Full of calcium. Do you want some cat's cheese? I'm giving them away. There's only a few blocks left. I'm giving it away. Free cat's milk cheese. Do you drink milk from a cat? Yeah, we've milked these cats like they do with cows. We treat the cats like they do cows in the dairy industry. We keep them pregnant, take the kittens away, kill the boy kittens and keep the girls pregnant and keep stealing their milk until we kill them and turn them into beef and leather, cat beef and leather. It's the same as cow's milk. You don't? Really? This has got cat toes in there. Cat toes. Full of calcium, cat's cheese. Do we eat cheese from a cat, mate? Yeah. What we do is, you know, in dairy farms, we take the cows out and we put the cats in and we do the same thing. We keep them pregnant, take the kittens away and take the milk that was meant for the kittens we keep and we kill the boy kittens because they don't actually produce milk. So we keep the females pregnant and until they can't produce milk anymore then we turn them into cat meat and we use cat leather and cat fur from them so we use the whole animal. But yeah, we like the taste of cheese so milk comes from animals so what's the difference between a cow and a cat? This is true, yeah. To make you think, yeah? Yeah, do that when you think about it. Why do we drink milk from a cow? It's for the baby cow. Yeah. Cats milk is for a baby cat. What they say with most animals, isn't it? Yeah. If you get females you've got to provide milk for their young. Whatever on it. Do you think it's okay that we do this to the animals to get milk from them and kill them afterwards? Just so we can have some cheese? Do you think cheese is worth that? That's another debate. Do you think it's cruel to do this to cats or cows? Yeah. Well, it's unusual. I wouldn't say it's cruel. Because we kill them afterwards, turn them into leather and... Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's not for me, though. Yeah. Well, if it's not for you then check out this booklet because we're trying to inspire people not to use any animals and this cheese here is actually just made from plants. Completely from plants, not from any animals and I just put these stickers on there to get people thinking. But these are all vegan. Yeah. Well, my doctor keeps telling me you see, I've just given up eating meat. Good. Not for your health, but not for ethics reasons. For your health? Yeah, for my health. Okay. I've not eaten meat now for the last eight months. How do you feel? I feel better in myself. You know, eating out of slaughterhouses those places scared animals getting killed putting that inside your body, it's... You know? Putting the body of someone who's suffered in the slaughterhouse inside of your body, it's... Yeah, it's not... Yeah, it doesn't feel... Yeah, well, that's what it is, isn't it? Yeah. But there's heaps of good information on there about plant-based diets, about vegan living, about not exploiting animals and it feels good to know that you're making purchases that don't directly abuse animals, whether it's a cat, a dog, a cow, a pig. Well, I don't agree with killing any living living thing. Then you're a vegan in your heart then. Yeah, I don't agree, of course. Animals have got to live as well, haven't they? Yeah, and do you think it's unjustified what we do to them so we can have a five-minute meal? Oh, yeah, definitely. Well, my daughter, I've converted my daughter. Okay. You see, the problem is I've got grandchildren. Yeah. And they go to, obviously, the kiddies like to go to McDonald's. Maccasin that, yeah. You know, burgers and what. Well, I've told my daughter that if you go in there, get the kiddies' meal. Yeah, you can get like a, I think they do have a little vegan option at McDonald's and their fries and stuff. Yeah, I've said that to her. So if you're going to do that, then ask them if you've got a vegan option, because obviously there's more stuff. They do, I think they do. They've got something. They definitely do. So to Subway and so to, you know, a lot of the fast food joints now. It's like my grandkids, they don't eat vegetables. They've got these little shape things that no way. That's a good idea. They think it's the shape. Oh, cool. Yeah, that was good. I wonder what they'd think if they saw what happened inside of a slaughterhouse. Yeah, not for children, is it? We shouldn't be feeding it to them then. Take this, this is vegan. I made these stickers myself at home. Yeah, just to make people think. Why would they drink cow's milk if they were not going to drink cat's milk? Is it cat's milk is weird and cow's milk isn't? We've been conditioned. Yeah, we did it on purpose. Kitty cafe. Kitty cafe. I'm glad you appreciated it, the location. I'll give that a try. There's some really good information and documentaries on there. Please do read. Has it got a website? This is a help going vegan website. It's completely free. And we've got a bunch of like this is ethics, environment and health. These two films are really good. There's a source here for nutrition facts. If you want to know anything about nutrition, how to swap meat, how to swap eggs, how to swap dairy, places to eat, places to eat. Can I get that online? Is it online? You can just take it with you. Yeah, take it with you, my friend. I'll leave it on my coffee table for my daughter to look at. Yeah, no worries, mate. Nice talking to you. Really nice talking to you too, buddy. Do you guys want to try some? I'm about to pack up. It's cat's cheese. It's made from cat's. Cat's milk. Wait, wait, wait. Do you eat cow's milk? Wait, cow's? This is made from... Wait, you would eat it if it's made from a cow, but you won't eat it if it's made from cat's? What is that? Thing is, I don't really eat cheese much anyway, but... But this is made from cat's. Let's just say this is made from cat's. Would you drink it? Yeah, it's weird. It's weird to drink milk from another species, isn't it? But you do it from a cow and it's... Well, I'm lactose intolerant anyway. But I still do sometimes eat it. Let me just give you this before you go. It's actually vegan. It's not made from cat's or cow's. I'm sorry for her. She was a bit confused. Felt bad to choking her like that. She's like, what is it? Should I grab it? Should I not? Oh, God. What's the matter with that? What's the matter with cat's milk? See, it works, doesn't it? She has cow's milk, but she won't eat cat's milk. See, it's called species, isn't it? So there we have it. That's the end of the day with the cat's cheese. I'm surprised not many people wanted the cat's cheese. A couple people did. A couple people yelled out at how disgusting it was. But it's an interesting thought little experiment here. If you're eating cheese and milk from another species who are horrifically abused and murdered, do you want to try some cat's cheese? You all right? Ah, same here. But why wouldn't you eat the cheese from a cat who was treated in exactly the same way? All right. Peace.