 C regional yours to bring something to partnership straff. To carry something on for 8 years is fucking terrible. Is barbaric to do it and not just having an affair, but doing it to your brother. Do you know what I mean when someone tries to act squeaky clean? It can be difficult so I dont know what you've went through to be here to curling the tail, it must be Performance Sort of Difficult drosoddfirstandwyd i fynd align Shadow. Though yes it was difficult times, but you have people you probably couldn't have done it without Will Miller, me y ffrnd Daniel without them especially when it first happened when I went to worlds with his wife Michelle and his family it is such like a sanctuary for me. It was just... World's been like a brother for me 25 years now. I've got a good friend Daniel himself and strong friend. He needs oedd bwysiwyd, cyntaf iawn. O'r cynyd o mynd, mae'n cyfan uchaf i Miherbeidiai. Mae maes'n (*w), mae hanfodd ei bod yn unig. Mae maes'n (*w*) felly o hynny mae hyn yn eich hefyd. Mae gwaith yn yma arferu ei bryd, mae'n holl iawn'r cadydd. Mae hwnna'n moed i'r cadydd, mae hwnna'n holl eich pofnigon i Spain. Mae poddu eu sgolwch yma yng Nghaerbydd. Mae mew pwysio hefyd. Rydych chi'n gweld i'w mynd? Mae fi fydd. Rwy'n pan du. Yn ysguariap un fel dda 4 o 5 komog ac Fy Corell, cro that's why I couldn't, I don't know talk about it but now, I know, I talk about it probably mostly to annoying people because it keeps on coming up they had eight years to think about the consequences and repercussions well He's fucking wakin' someone up but didn't wanna wake up because I was quiet I was settled down Ac rwy'n ddod i ddim sydd o'n fath o gyllid pobl i gweld, ond mynd yn fath o'r adeiladau. meg y gallwn da ar hyn o, yma'n bod i ddiogelioolaeth llwy, rydych chi'n ddiogelioolaeth rhai, dwi'n ddefnyddio, wnaeth y gallwn o fath, dyna yn amser, yna'n gallwn ddiogelolaeth, dwi'n ddod ddiogelolaeth o'r adeiladau i ddim yn amgylchediaeth, dwi'n ddiogelolaeth i ddiogelolaeth, dwi'n ddiogelolaeth i ddiogelolaeth newydd, ..highest, gyda'r fan i chi, ond, ond, maen nhw'n gwych. – Do you know what I mean? – Ysodd mwnebyn yn orymnol. A dyn nhw'n phlas gweithio na'r hanfyd? Dcendol, yma, mae gwahodd yn gweithio, mae'n cael mynd i'r amser, mae'n gwybod gyda'n mynd. – Sa'n bydd o'n gwlad. –jalud o'r Gymraegio Ur蒙 i encore Rhysnidion. Chwy'n ei fod chi'n gwybod yn i'r hyn yma. – Dyma'r Rhysnidion? – dess. Mae wnaeth eu gyda'n mynd i'r amser. ans iawn hefyd o'n dyn ni'n dyfano ar chatio. Mae'n iddo, mae mae'n dyn ni'n dylunio ar chatio ar bobl bobl sydd wedi'i datblygu. Maen nhw i fewn o'n ddod yn ddych chi ddim yn dŷod. Dyna hyd i oni yn ddych yn ddych chi ddim yn ddych chi ddim yn ddych. A byd yn ni'n digwydd yn ddych chi'n ddod yn dŷod ar ddysgu? Mae hi, mae'n ddych chi ddim yn ddych chi ddim yn ddych chi ddim Busch yn ddysgu, a'r syniad o'n gwneud hyd gyd. Max wedi gweld ni'n gweld MAX teismel ac yn ein mwy oed. Ond yw'r aa gwod y gwirionedd. Ond y dyma. O'r leif yn ein bod yn cyfrightdedd sut mae ychydig i fynd i oed i gyd? Mae yw'r gwybarthi gyd i digwydd? Mae ychydig i gellwch ar y byddai? A y gallwn i gael y byddai? Mae ychydig i gael ichi'n meddwl i'r meddwl i chi'n meddwl. Ond mae oed i gael ei wneud amser. Mae'r meddwl i chi'r meddwl i chi? Mae'r meddwl i chi. Mae'n gilydd oeddiw. Not really. I'm as fucking sad, my. I've not really seen any of them, you know, and I was like, I've obviously seen them twice in 10 years. But that would still break your heart because what I can see with you is the sensitivity, as well. That there's no matter what's happened I believe that you would try and put all the pieces together just to have the family home. Well, but they obviously think I'm that bad. I'm not that bad. Don't beat up women. Don't cheat on people. gymuno nhw i ni nid yw'n gweld. Felly e'w ei brosieng maen nhw'n gweithio ar gyfer. A ydych chi'n wneud arall? Tym ni wrth gwrs o'n celf gafodd maen nhw gair gennyn ni'n gweithio, felly fewn yr OJ Simson. Yes, mae'r f What was it? Mae'r f- Mae'r tawelau, ond na fe f- fewn yn rhoi fod yn ddechrau. Felly mae'r ddechrau ond iddyn nhw. Mae'r ddechrau yn sylwedd yma yn ei bod yn gweithio momentumon. Mae'r ddechrau yn ddefnyddio fyrraedd. o'i wneud ar y gorfodaeth'i boer. Mae'n rhai gwynt o'r gweithio i'w teithio arfer o'n gweithio'r wyf? Rydych chi'n gweld yn shaen o'r gweithio'r gweithio. Rydw i'w dweud o'r gweithio a bod oedd chi'n gweithio'r gweld o'r gweithio. Rydw i'n dweud o'r gweithio i'w dweithio. Rydw i'n dweud y gwir yw ddau ac werth mwy fyt i'w am ymgyrolyd? Rydw i'n dweud. Crod iddwn yn ymgyrchu'r gwir? Ie. A now your mum still not spoke... I have been sitting walking on the street I would have run him over. No doubt about it. And your mum still not spoke to you since? No. So why are you getting the blame? As if you've done something wrong? No. Supposedly talk to the press, I do this, I tell stories. It's all crap. It's all crap. The amount of people that I know, it's just crap. So they believe whatever they want to believe, you know, I think it really goes deeper, deeper from, you know, I'm a dad's kid and she's his. How's it looking back and all bringing back? Does it not feel as if it was still yesterday for you? Or have you kind of... It's the same shit no matter if you're doing it. People are always still going to talk about it. Do you know what I mean by being here? How do you think about it? I don't really any more. I don't think about it now because we're having a chat about it, but I can put things in a box and just leave it there. Obviously people think, well, yeah, you're going to have to deal with stuff. I have dealt with it, but now it's in a box and I can put it away. Do you miss older family? It's been that long now, no. I've got three kids to worry about. They've not even met me six-year-old son and not seeing me 14-year-old son for, you know, I'm going to have to put up with this same shit because he has a surname, same as me. That's all it is. They see gigs because there's no gigs he's about. It's only our name. So you're obviously related to him and you're just going to have to put up with the same shit. Many kids have you got? Three. How do you protect your kids from this? You just got to school them as best you can. You're going to get idiots trying to wind you up. If you let them wind you up, then that's what they want and you've just got to keep on drilling that down to them. My daughter, she's 20, 21, she's got a different name so she's kind of gets away with it. But my two boys, they're going to have to deal with it. Yeah, Mrs Natasha, she was in the papers four years ago saying that she would have your back or she's working to get your back. No, yeah, no. We have a good relationship now. She's got a 14-year-old son who plays it off each other so we can't be fucking messing around. We've got to be in sync. That's the most important thing. Everything else to decide. You've got to try and stop it affecting them as much as possible. Do you think she was manipulated and kind of groomed because of Ryan's stature? No, I could name ten footballers that she'd been with. Did you know that at the time? No, it was afterwards. One of them, after it all happened, went to Portugal and I'm with two naughty lads and as I've walked in one of the bars, one of the guys who stood right behind the door with his mate and I've walked to the bar and as I've walked to the bar, turned and all you can see is a door shutting. That's nuts. That was Phil Bardsley. So that was clear that it was, what would you like, Phil Bardsley? You're about right. Phil Bardsley. Danny, go on and on. How the fuck did you know? Did you know this then? No, but after that. Was it kind of a relief that even though it's sick, but was it kind of, do you know what? Well, kind of fucked up, but the end of the day, you'd be pretty beautiful. The ironic bit was, she's turned into what I was. She was just cheating, lying, and that was me, so it's kind of calming away. You can't believe in something, not expect it to hit you. So that's the kind of way I look at it. You can't treat the way women, you can't treat the way women, the way you have, and not expect it to come back and bite you in the ass. Yes, it was a big fucking bite in the ass, but... That's not just a big bite, Foxy. No, that's taking your whole ass off, man. But that's the way I looked at it, and it's made me a better person for it. And you get three beautiful kids. Ryan had a pregnant as well, was that correct? Hadn't it got an abortion? Is that true, and it was in the papers? Yeah, I don't. What about all the kids and stuff, DNAs and that? No, that was the first thing I did in the week. How hard was that then, waiting for your results? Yeah, because I just... You know, my instinct is really good, and you just know. And then that would have been really... That would have been probably more mentally damaging. Push over there, do you think? Yeah, yeah. You bit through some shit, mate. That is some heavy stuff, it is. People don't realise that some men can't take it. No psychiatrist, no help, no nothing, just friends just talking it through. So maybe it would have healed quicker if it did talk to professional people. Was it a lonely time for you? Pats, yeah. When did you come back from Spain? When was the first time you spoke? After it came out? Probably about 10 days. Because they were all scared to come. They were all scared because they all thought that I'm a mad man, I'm crazy, I'm going to kill them all. It was quite calm, very calm. Because if you lose your temper then... You could have it on a callan spree. Num to it. How much did she get paid for the story, do you know? I don't know. So she's made money from your misery. 100 odd grand anyway, yeah. But the main objective is, these are building bridges now, which is amazing. People do grow up. We're fine, listen, I can switch and I can say what I want to say, but in the most we're fine. How long were you seeing each other for? 8 years. So just from the start of your relationship? 2003 to 2011. What about Christmas parties, parties, stuff like that? Was there never anything in your mind that you think he's fucking up to something? Did you know he cheated before? Or by further women? Yeah, were you doing it together or anything? Well, this is what I used to thought that he had good friends, but not really now, because the amount of stuff that he had, but then the ironic thing is about that is all his friends would do it as well, but the most ironic thing about that, their girlfriends would do it as well, because I went out with one of their girlfriends who was in their crowd, so I know what both sides do. So they were all at it. That's fucking nuts. Remember the old programme, Footballer's Waves? They were all at it. This place, in worse, this is why I don't drink now, socialise any more. Everyone's shagging everyone. He may, but you don't tell him, because it's fucking warped. It's warped. That's fucking it. It's wrong. I'm thinking, what am I doing? You look at John Terry, what he'd done with Wayne Bridge as well. Do you know what I mean? It's sad. It's a sad state of affairs that that can happen, but it just shows you act at what goes on behind closed doors. One of his mates saying, Ryan, what are you doing? This is your kid's wife. What are you doing? But no, come in my house. I'll have an ass for you to do whatever you want to do. It's fucking sad that the fact that she was pregnant and how the fuck can you do that to your brother? I don't get it. Listen, I was a bit of a boy back in the day, but I had some fucking morals. I'd like to think, like, I done a lot of bad shit, but that's some sick, fetish fucking degrading. It's just a very, very selfish, selfish person. Is he a lonely man? Well, he must be. He must be. I'm quite comfortable in my own skin, in my own company. This is why it's been no problem in lockdown for me. But, yeah, people like that have always need to have people around them and pamper them. Yeah, it's always stuff like that. It's never been for me. To get put up in a pedestal. People... He deserved to be in a pedestal because he's crazy, speaks for himself, but no one gives a shit about that anymore. If you live in a negative world, know what people want to talk about. It's a negative shit. So he's done that. Not me. He's ruined his legacy. Not me. By fucking doing what he did. He's got the best career in the world. Absolute world-class footballer. But no one will remember that, unfortunately. What hurt you the most? Out with all that? All of it. Yeah? Were you ever sourcedo? No. Too strong for that? You got kids, stuff like that? Yeah. That's what... Any negative thing? Wait a minute. Why would I put more shit on my kids? How am I fucking fucked from my childhood? All the shit they've been through. And then that... It's just been. So why did your mum do this on you? What was it you've done to that? Everybody's told you that. I tell stories. I do this. I do that. I can't be trusted. It's all craps, all lies. Prove it. How would you feel if your mum phoned you just now? Great. See me kids if you want. I'm not interested anymore. I'm not really interested. The doors are open for her. Yeah, I don't really care. I'm not really thinking about it. I've got three children to concentrate on. Yeah. And you've done that, which is the main thing. To keep your shit together, mate, honestly. I've not... Fair play. Fair play and it must be difficult to even bring it back up and bring back a lot of emotions and memories. But this is what I mean. It doesn't anymore because after about... It took five years. Five years to get over. What did you do in that five years? Did you ever get back with Natasha? Did you ever... We tried when we went to Cyprus to pathos, but it was just mentally I was like, no, I can't do this. Too many thoughts going through your head. Did she ever get help? I'm not sure. Do you know what I mean? That she must have to do all that shit as well, man. She's... That must be difficult. That will play back her mind if she gets older. I know she probably regrets it now because she was young and daff and people made daff mistakes, but... How old was she? My name was happening probably 21. So she's very young, girl. 22. Seeing someone playing for Manchester United. It is a massive turn-on. No matter who it is, no matter who you're married to, but you've still got to have more respect and more morals for yourself and especially your man. Were you married? Engaged. Married in 2010. The year before it came out. Yeah. Yeah. Who was your best friend? She said to me, she went... Will, Will Miller. So she said... When she got married, she went to see a clairvoyant and she said you'd be... you'd be forced within the year. I didn't see that clairvoyant. She was bang on. That's fucked up. Roger, that is fucked up, mate. I don't know how you've managed to pull it all together and on it. I genuinely don't make that... to have that all over the press and world news and it's fucking nuts, mate.