 Definitely that microphone although it's a little lower now if you can boost the volume Then it'll be perfect. I can bring it that loud. There you go. Yeah, that's good Okay, sorry about that guys. Yeah, so how was how was the Pluto TV version? Good You were I was you were talking about the top five alien monsters Oh that thing that was a disaster because I wanted to top five aliens I'm like what Superman's an alien and then Yeah, but I said when you was when I when number one was was the alien I'm like, buh duh. Who else would it be Xenomorph terrifying? Yes, absolutely. What a great concept for a show Yeah, could you imagine that Tom? What an idea? Hey, I assigned you headlines to read unless you don't want to I'm gonna take a look at them I had a review another video and so now I need to Get on board with this. Okay. Take a look. You got one minute I feel this everything is just every it's the answer is always Xenomorph. Yeah Nintendo and that's Xenomorph You're excited to report Xenomorphs, but that's just fancy way of just saying alien. I also need control. Oh Yes, of course you do Okay, Janet Jackson you got control I Wanted Janet Jackson reference in reference. What's the what's the alien movie coming up aliens? I want to watch it that actually looks exciting to me. Yeah. I hope they That's all about immigration reform, right? Well, you know, it's funny because in aliens they make that reference when yeah, one of the characters said, oh Aliens All right, it is 130 All right hiding 430 on the east coast 430 Eastern 2030 GM or UTC Mr. Aktar are you prepared? I'm getting prepared. I'll be prepared by the time you intro me. All right. Here we go This show is brought to you by audience members like me not outside organizations to find out more Go to daily tech news show comm slash support This is the daily tech news for Thursday April 28th 2017, I'm Tom Merrick good to be back Thanks again to Scott Johnson and Justin Robert young for filling in and fine fashion yesterday I am very pleased to be joined today by mr. I as actor senior associate editor at CNET How's it going? I as I am good now. I'm a senior senior As a tar senior. I just trying to make it arrive It's totally perfect. I'm really happy to be here. Good to be back on this show. Yeah, good to have you back, man We got some fun stuff to talk about today. There's space. Well, not spacesuits, but flying suits and tunnels underground and Thankfully it's on a day with led Peralta's here. So it gives us something to draw It's a good Friday a good way to close out the month of April with some excellent little visual cues and the top stories I'm excited. That's true. This is this is the end Of of april episodes. Uh, they'll still be the 29th and 30th Those of you are worried about your weekend, but it has not been eliminated We just don't do shows on saturday and sunday. That's right. Well, let's start out with a few tech things you should know The new york times reports the us nsa will stop collecting emails and texts to and from people overseas that mention a foreigner Who is under surveillance? The nsa found it too difficult to comply with 2011 privacy rules put in place by the foreign intelligence surveillance court Which basically narrowed what they could actually keep in use Bloomberg news received photos of apples autonomous lexus rx 450 h suv from a person who saw it on the street The photo appears to show off the shelf sensors including velodyne 64 channel lidar at least two radar sensors and a series of cameras And had the presence of mind to snap a picture Nicely done It doesn't look that impressive because we've seen so many of these things now, I guess Nintendo announced the 2ds xl game console a revision of the 3ds xl But not 3d with larger screens an nfc reader and updated processing power goes on sale in japan for 14 980 yen on july 13th and on sale in the united states for 150 dollars on july 28th A quick note. I was talking to another editor here. It's actually called the new nintendo 2ds xl Because there's a new nintendo 3ds xl that games only work on with that with an extra piece of controller It's the new exact part of the so the so the ones that work on the new 3ds xl will work on the new 2ds xl Exactly, but new again 3d Right 2d such a weird naming convention intel said a q1 revenue record of 14.8 billion dollars And increased 7% on the year intel's memory units saw the biggest growth in the quarter up 55% Driven by its obtained products the company's client computing and data center units both grew 6% on the year So good news for intel. They they you know, they've been having some worries about mobile And it looks like the obtained chips are helping pick things up client computing and data center, of course another diversification effort Lots of other future bets not yet contributing in large part, but they're future bets. That's the thing Now here are some more top stories last month the u.s. Justice department announced the arrest of lithuanian Evaldus rimasauskas for swindling 100 million dollars out of us tech companies using a phishing scam rimasauskas foraged invoices and corporate stamps in order to impersonate a legitimate tywinese server manufacturer called quanta And then trick the accounting departments and companies into paying for non-existent computer supplies The doj announced in march that it had recovered most of the money So these companies aren't out there 100 million although when you find out who the companies are You're gonna know that 100 million is like a rounding error for them facebook and google Both confirmed to fortune that they were in fact the targets Pretty clever, uh, sony said on friday. It expects annual profits to rise rise 73 to 500 billion yen its highest since march 1998 Sony's image sensor business leads the way returning to profit at 120 billion yen Sony intends to double spending on manufacturing and raise production capacity 13.6 Sony also expects a 25.4 percent rise in profit in its gaming division Sales of the ps4 are expected to slow to 18 million units to slow down to 18 million It's nuts by the way, but revenue will come from strong game titles Sony pictures is also expected to return to profitability after last year's 1 billion dollar write down Yeah, you know mbc universals film the universal film part of mbc universal Really contributed to the bottom line of comcast Quite a bit so sony would need that and it's possible that it can get that as much as we hear about Oh, you know ticket sales and people go into the movies film companies are actually doing fairly well right now Don't know if that'll continue to last But it's it's image sensors its sensors and its chips That's driving samsung's business right now and it's definitely driving sony's as well Spider-man will help them. Do you think spider-man will help them? Oh, yeah Because I mean when back when spider-man was first well, sony's first picture the way back with sony Toby McGuire It made a crazy amount of money and now they're still gonna generate revenue. Thanks to the deal with marvel But it's not gonna be as big. Well, and I wonder too with ps4 sales No longer On the rise of the ps4 being new. It's a few years old now And the xbox coming with project scorpio Could that Cut into sony's turnaround because don't forget this is a huge turnaround Sony was in trouble there were people talking about breaking up the company a couple of years ago Yeah, I mean they killed off their display business and there I think their displays actually come from lg So they've really Streamlined a bit. So we'll see how this actually turns up. I think you're right Like you were saying the image sensors their camera stuff is fantastic Alphabet now you heard the the actual numbers about alphabet on yesterday's show But I wanted to point out something alphabet reported a rise in profit of 29 to 5.43 billion Well beyond analyst expectations and most of that rise does come from google and most of that comes from advertising That's not a surprise paid clicks rose 44 YouTube revenues grew 22. Now the one thing about this is in march companies started to pull ads So you would think maybe that would have taken that would have caused google to take a hit in advertising But it did not in fact it had one of its best advertising quarters yet The other thing is google's non advertising revenue because as we talked about with patrick bezia One of the criticisms of google is that they are just have too much of their money coming from advertising google's non advertising revenue Which is pixels? google play G suite that grew 49.5 to 3.1 billion now That is a big chunk of their business now Alphabet reported earnings from non google companies as other bets. That's what they always do That's nest and verily and waymo and all of them that revenue did rise But the losses also grew and that's not a big surprise Everybody assumes that those companies are going to continue to be loss making for a while But they're losing in the hundreds of millions while google itself is making it in the billions I guess what do you make of this? Idea that maybe google's non advertising revenue is starting to become a significant thing to look at Well, I mean it rose but I mean It seems like a drop in the hat when it comes to the amount of money google can probably pull up from advertising I think it's it's it's showing that google's hardware division I mean, I mean way back in the old days google doing hardware seemed like a really crazy idea But the fact actually making money on it is very impressive and the play store growing I know there's been a lot of tweaks to the play store when it comes to finding apps and being able to Purchase things within it because that used to be a total mess Way back in the early days So a lot of revisions to that is going to be a really great revenue generator for a very long time And you know microsoft a lot of its revenue that they talked about yesterday came from cloud services from azure Big most of amazon's revenue these days is coming from amazon web services. That's its big money maker And google should be in that game more the so than they are Yeah, I mean there's a lot to alphabet though. Maybe waymo will take off. Maybe one of their other bets Maybe oh sure whatever. We'll see because they have basically their hand in everything Over at a ted talk on friday elan musk showed more of his vision for the boring company. That's not a dull company It happened because effort to drill underground tunnels to relieve traffic congestion Cars would descend in a car elevator into tunnels and be moved through the tunnels on a sled that can move at 130 miles per hour And be controlled by a computer that routes cars intelligently as if they were packets in a network a network that requires absolutely no packet loss because Because that's you in your car if they drop a packet So long packet another advantage is that many more tunnels can be stacked below ground and above ground allowing allowing for more capacity This feels like a doctor who episode because there was that one doctor who episode where they're all in a constant traffic jam And they were in tunnels But the idea is that you wouldn't have traffic jams because this would allow people to zip from place to place In their car elevators at high speed and instead of now we're like if you if you put three Roads above each other you're starting to really push it you could have five six seven Lane you know lanes of roads stacked on top of each other Going down underground at least until you run into the mullman And also your car it's not it's like a self-driving car since it's a sled You're not putting any miles on an engine. Oh, that's true. Your car's on the engine right off Yeah, that's that's kind of a really really cool idea that the idea that you can just go ahead I'm going to get on the sled now Don't okay, but it's got the same problem that self-driving cars have which is I am no longer in control You know, how many people are going to say, you know what? I just don't trust that because I'm claustrophobic I don't want to be underground where I can't see and put my fate in the hands of some computer controlled Network where I'm just a packet. It's doing its best effort to deliver I mean people get on trains and they're essentially run by computers. I know there's a conductor at the head of it I mean, but yeah, but that makes all the difference we even if it's not true We think there's a conductor at the beginning Yeah, so I'm imagining there's going to be somebody at like a traffic control center That's monitoring all things and that'll be your safety element to be like your car is being watched by george Okay, meet georgeena. She's the woman making sure you're safe. I The one thing that would make this work for me and this is going to sound ridiculous You got to paint that tunnel sky blue And you got to put some some of that day glow light that they use at the venetian in los vegas in there And that will make all the difference if this thing is dark and gloomy I don't I'm not going to want to spend any time in it That's a lovely idea But you know those walls are going to be brought to you by colgate and tide And so you'll be going by the sky and here come some ads like personalized for you That's fine, man. Just have sky blue ads. That's all i'm asking for Here we go. It'll be like fake, you know planes pulling ribbons behind puffy clouds of toothpaste There you go. I'm all in Yeah, I I mean Elon musk also said that this is something he spends a very small amount of time on So we're not going to get this anytime soon But it is interesting to see where it is as a concept There's a long way to go a lot of regulation a lot of logistics before this becomes a real thing Yeah, true Richard browning used his deadless suit to fly around at the ted conference in vancouver as well If you got bored with elan musk talking about boring you could walk outside and see this guy browning previously Has posted video of a test flight of the suit that he conducted in the uk The suit uses six miniature jet engines three on each hand And a specially designed exoskeleton to kind of brace him in Of course, as soon as you say jets and exoskeleton, you're drawing the obvious comparisons to iron man a helmet with a heads up display Also iron man like Shows him his fuel use suits capable of up to 200 miles per hour and rising a few thousand feet But in the video browning only goes a little ways off the ground and he says he he goes well below the maximums for safety It can only fly for 10 minutes at a time too. So you don't want to fly too far up and then run out of gas Yeah, the fact that it exists at all Pretty freaking cool It's Oh, I know I know this is this is me being that guy on the internet But i'm like he's only going a little ways off the ground. I mean, yeah, it's impressive, but I want to see him fly I want to see him go up in the air That'll even one more. You can't just Get a loop to loops up above vancouver doing some sky riding It'll happen and you'll see him flying in the tunnel. How cool is this though? I mean, I mean and this is the thing iron man. This is not but Down the road someday. I can see this in a museum saying the current iron man suit was first, you know in prototype by mr Richard browning and this you know, and this is that first one in that iron man museum, right? Yeah, that because the second will be like elan must caught wind of this and he made one in the next day Because that's what he knows Right. Uh, he took a break from his boring company and his space company and his solar energy company and of course his electric car company Yeah, you know Oh, with this. Sorry. I'm jumping back Would the sleds be able to charge your electric car? For an extra fee you can't have in that boring company unless you're driving a tesla, of course in which case you get it for free In the video. Yeah, it was all teslas, of course. Yeah, of course. They probably get free rides Yeah, so Richard browning, uh We'll be able to allow you to fly around above ground Elan musk will allow you to whip around in your car below ground Frankly, nobody's going to be using surface streets anymore It's for pedestrians. It's a pedestrian use Of the ground. Hey folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines dot com. Let us move on to our discussion So Google announced the pixel and pixel xl phones will stop receiving system updates after october 2018 and security updates after october 2019 this is not a big shock. They've they've generally said it's about an 18 month to two year cycle for these things Uh, the nexus 5x and the 6p are also set to get their last system updates later this year september For the os update and september 2018 for security updates Now the news here is that google has put up a nice chart called on on its nexus help site That shows you the pixel and nexus dates to make it perfectly transparent what's going on Their policy is that os updates will continue for a device for two years From when the device goes on sale and security updates for three years from sale or 18 months from when google stops selling it Whichever is longer Well, the question we have is why why when microsoft supports windows 7 still In some cases, uh, why when apple supports ios for more than three years the 2013 iphone 5 still gets ios 10 updates Why Is android stuck on a two two two year os three year security update cycle Well, I mean i could see android being having an issue just because there's so many different hardware makers out there Although windows sort of microsoft deals with that As well because they're like hey, what are you running on a toaster? We got you I don't know why microsoft can't but google can't I we've we talked there's some technical aspects you and I talked about before the show about uh qualcomm and the chip manufacturers deciding whether they're going to support android or not But the weird thing is the fact that it's the pixel. I get the idea with the nexus devices They were sort of blessed devices. They're like, oh, yeah, it's made by this other company and we're behind it But google's own phone the first one with the google name on it google pixel and pixel xl Losing support after two to three years seems like a really crappy deal Because if you buy somebody like if you buy an apple product and they're End to end we have the software. We have the hardware. We're going to support you for a very long time That looks like a better deal because I know people do switch phones from year to year two years and all that kind of thing But for its first phone to be I wouldn't say abandoned but kind of Left alone after just simply two years seems a little bit weird Because it's their first major phone. What do you think about that? It seems like the problem is the chips Uh intel is the one that makes sure your drivers work for your intel chips on windows in close cooperation with microsoft hence the old name windel because they work in such close cooperation It does not seem that google has such close cooperation with qualcomm not that they don't closely cooperate with qualcomm But not to the same effect Qualcomm supports new versions of android with drivers and optimizations for the gpu the modem other parts of the system on a chip In something called the board support package in some ways they have more control over the drivers and android than others Now qualcomm doesn't say it refuses to support older chips But when ours technica asked them about this in august last year qualcomm said The length of time a chipset is supported and the upgradeable os versions available for a particular chipset Is determined in collaboration with our customers and of course their customers are the device manufacturers so with samsung with Uh, which sometimes samsung uses their own chips. Sometimes they use qualcomm Uh with google with lg etc etc etc When you're qualcomm and you've got the majority of the devices out there And you've got manufacturers who are like well We could probably sell more devices if you don't and then we can just point at you and blame you And qualcomm's like well as long as you're selling more devices. We're selling more chips Suddenly the the end customer the end user Gets left out and everybody's just passing the buck Google says it's not our fault the manufacturer gets to say it's not their fault qualcomm points back at those two And nobody takes responsibility for it Yeah, but that's a really really bad customer service on google's part because they're selling it with their name Now there's nothing stopping google from licensing the arm architecture themselves and creating their own processors That's what apple did, right? Right. They're like, hey, look, we bought remember was it but with pa semiconductor They bought a company so they could figure out how to do this and they did it And so they yes, they have an issue with qualcomm right now I think they're in a lawsuit right now when it comes to uh fran's terms when it comes to licensing That's a whole other mess. I'm sure you talked about well actually i'm glad you brought that up because You know krug in the chat room said something I also thought of which is why doesn't google just pay qualcomm to update the drivers Maybe qualcomm will wants to charge them something outlandish because apparently Some people think qualcomm tries to charge them outlandish fees for things like licensing patents Yeah, and also when it comes to google they could be thinking simply like okay We have this old phone the old phone now pixel which I own by the way I bought this with my own money And if I knew that I'm like, you know what maybe I would have waited a little bit longer To purchase a google device because if google does bother to make its own processors Maybe they can support it for longer because I hang on to my devices. I don't sell them I end up using them as light switches or something crazy Back to the idea that google could maybe influence qualcomm When it comes to doing the drivers. Yeah, maybe they could if they wanted to but qualcomm is just gigantic and From what I've learned about qualcomm. They have the rights to pretty much Everything inside so if you're going to be doing business with them Maybe it's to your benefit. It might actually if google did a or alphabet did it cost benefit analysis It might be cheaper to make their own processors than to keep licensing this tech directly from qualcomm or purchasing their chips Yeah, but that's it's not like google's small either. I mean they've got a ton of leverage Uh and and I want I want to note that there's a certain point where older hardware Just can't support modern operating systems because operating systems take advantage of newer technology, right? That's why microsoft Does end support for windows 7 because it's saying look, you know at this point Your your architecture can't support what this operating system is supposed to I'm sorry I said windows 7 that's a horrible example But at some point windows 10 is not going to be able to run on a laptop from 1997, right? That's ridiculous and there is a newer point at which that is true So there's that sweet spot in between three years seems like too short Obviously because apple is able to do it longer But then yes 10 year old phone short. No nobody really expects you to support it that long Yeah, the other thing is when it comes to phones people are used to changing them on a cycle pretty quickly one to two years There's all that upgrade cycle. It's not like people A desktop computer is very different or a laptop is different. You buy them outright You think you're going to keep them for several several years. You're not going to be worried about A 10 year cycle you're a 10 year cycle you're like, why do I still own this thing? It's 10 years old people don't even keep cars that long unless they're classics Well, I think that's actually I think you hit on the reason this isn't as common with with as it is with desktop operating systems is because The number of people who switch every year is high with phones compared to laptops for sure The number of people who switch every two years is even higher So you're talking about a smaller slice of the public that even notices this now granted When you're in that slice like I am with my nexus 5x this coming this september You feel pretty angry, right? Like you're you're feeling that same thing with the pixel and it's still a couple years left Oh, yeah, I hate the pixel for lots of reasons including this now So number one being the design. I really don't like design But the thing is I mean there's a we're a privileged bunch. We can switch our phones when we want to I mean a lot of people do that like we're saying two years one year But if you can't upgrade and you bought it from google You might have some animosity towards the company that sold you the phone in the first place thinking hey, listen You're behind this you're the company your your g is on the back of this device You guys should be scoring this a lot longer now Security patches will happen and the language says no guaranteed android version or no guaranteed security up Which also means they could at some point if they decided to If they either worked out with with qualcomm where they put their own division on the driver building They could probably push an update if a case brought it Made it important I imagine maybe the drivers just happened to still work in a future update and they in the testing they go Okay, fine. We didn't have to do any work. We'll go ahead and push that update out. Why wouldn't we exactly? So like it doesn't mean that the phone will it's not like they're breaking your phone after two years But three years that would be amazing if google decided by the way your phone is breaking three years Also, yeah, you can't even use it anymore. It's like a number seven suddenly there you go It's over, but that's not what's happening here. And also that version of android Whatever that's going to be. I think it's the number or the letter supposed to be android p by that point pecan pie, which i'm suggesting right now to google pecan pie right there all yours or praline Um, that will be the last version you get and so hopefully it'll be the best version of android up to that point And you'll want to upgrade at some point Well, and i see you makes a very good point in our chat room right now He says uh, you can likely get os updates from xda for five years or more You can always root the phone and and and do it yourself and tinker with it and and see if people are working on drivers And making them work and stuff like that. Again, that's a smaller slice of people though So but it does keep that number of people who really are upset Narrowing and that that doesn't apply as much pressure on the manufacturers I just love the idea that if google was going to say okay, look, this is the last one We're gonna get and by the way now your phone is rooted so you can do whatever you want So, uh, we know we're getting. Yeah, there you go. Oh, that'd be great That would be amazing. So there's another idea freak. Although that's a huge security risk for some people who are like Don't know what to do with the rooted. Let me have the checkbox. Yeah Hey, thanks everybody who participates in our subreddit You can submit stories and vote on them at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com helps us figure out what to talk about each day We find it really helpful Uh, so if nothing else go over there and vote dailytechnewshow.reddit.com Our pick of the day comes from morris in hot and humid new orleans But he does say go blues go cards So he's got some kind of st. Louis connection going on uh pointed out that if you want to hear Roger pie speaking about net neutrality in his own words He did give an interview to the federalist podcast Maurice says I found it pretty interesting and thought that listeners to dtns and or cord cutters I think he means cord killers could be interested So we'll have a link to that in the show notes a few messages of the day Larry wrote in with a potential explanation for the u.s senate id cards with pictures of chips on them Did you hear about this? I guess I have not so I It was a tech dirt article I think if I'm remembering right where the u.s senate staff have id cards with a picture of a security chip on them Not an actual security chip Anyway, Larry describes working for a large organization and helping to develop a standard Identification design when they decided to adopt chips He writes once a standard card was designed blank stock had to be purchased to feed the Identification printers because of the large number of id's that were required It had to be possible to issue the cards over a period of time as your card expired The new standard id was phased in because the cost of an id plus chip is significantly more expensive than the same id card Stock with just a picture of a chip that was much less expensive My first standard id had a picture of a chip on it where the chip would eventually be and he talks about some other Benefits of that which is you know, it started to allow people to Put their customized department information in the right place get the security guards used to looking for things in the right place So he's like maybe that's what's going on It's just a cost-saving opportunity where they're rolling the chips out But they needed to have the design template set and so they just left a space for the chip there That's a very good rationalization Yeah, it could be a terrible idea Larry worked for a large organization Larry Is it the u.s. Senate? Now I got I got the feeling it was definitely not the u.s. Senate Uh rich straffolino I had a couple thoughts on apple looking into the peer-to-peer payment system that uh, justin and scott talked about yesterday This could be part of a greater push in developing markets in india and africa Where one of the major functions on any phone is to provide basic financial services Well, they look to be partnering with visa in the u.s This could be a huge incentive for continued growth worldwide On the question of whether this would be cross-platform i'm torn on the one hand apple is shown with apple music and itunes They're not afraid to go cross-platform on the other hand with something as sensitive as financial services I can see their commitment to privacy overriding that especially if it could be combined with ease of use I'd be interested to see if apple builds on the airdrop connectivity stack and opens up with nfc Implementation to allow really easy peer-to-peer connections A couple of good thoughts in there for one I think they could go cross-platform With the web they could allow you to take an apple id anybody can create an apple id You don't have to own an apple product. I don't think uh, and then and then receive money and send money In that email address, right? But to actually use it on a phone. I don't think I think he's right I don't think apple would go and make an app for android necessarily I could see that happening apple pay well not calling apple pay but something close to that or Because apple loves to do it. They love just cram and stuff into apple music I could see it being a part of that because that's part of the way apple works And I love that idea of using airdrop to send you cash If I'm you know if we're splitting the bill at a restaurant or something nearby. There you go. Yeah Uh, russell wrote on wednesday you and scott were discussing twitter's creation of original content Which could likely focus on news entertainment and sports that that's what was said in the article we read Scott was mentioning more traditional content such as longer form drama russell says I think this would be a great platform for shorter form micro episode content such as archer Or the guild maybe twitter could create some content along those lines in addition to the other things they are planning Like maybe I don't know partner up with cnet for short form shows like top five is I don't see it happening and here's why Short form didn't work because they had vine remember that was the shortest form of the shortest form Yeah, it could have put that in that could have worked. They got periscope and those are usually longer form from what I've seen And a lot of the the streaming services So it I would think You could probably just tune in live to something maybe just get you catch five to six minutes or something But the idea of micro video formats We've seen that with tout that didn't work. We've seen with vine vine was a really interesting idea a good experiment But I think they're maybe maybe five minutes three minutes ten minutes Like youtube is really stuck to ten minutes is like one of their key numbers when it comes to People watching video. So maybe ten is the magic number. Maybe that's the short form content that could work there But that would be twitter copying youtube and that's a whole other thing Finally mike and sunny dc said I hope your appointment went well yesterday. Well, thank you mike. Yes, it was just fine I'm listening to scott and justin talk on the switch And I feel like ben from parks and recs when it came to lil sebastian I just don't get it which if you haven't watched parks and rec you don't get that either Uh, but it is really funny. Trust me an underpowered tablet He's speaking of the switch now with little storage No cloud backup half the functionality of a tablet struggles to do 1080p a shoddy kickstand and math controllers I know zelda is a key consideration here But nintendo's notoriously to develop platforms will likely make it only good for nintendo ip And third party support will continue to be limited. I've been saying for years nintendo should be in the software and peripheral business I can't imagine dishing out 300 dollars for an underwhelming nvidia shield with bad software just to play a rehash of mario kart That's some strong words mike think is mike. You don't have to understand it plenty of people did So nintendo's happy. That's I mean that's the it's like yeah, man. You might not get it Uh, but some people did now you could say they're all idiots and uh, and that's that's your right I don't think all of them are idiots as someone who has a nintendo switch. I see the appeal Uh of a 300 dollar device over say a thousand dollar ipad Uh, it does what it does really well and it's my way into the nintendo ecosystem If 300 dollars is too much for you This is not a comparison shopping thing right the nvidia may to be the wrong ecosystem for you too It's all about is this ecosystem worth 300 dollars and if it's not then you shouldn't buy it, but apparently enough people are Yeah, about power. I don't think nintendo is for the word about power. It's about gameplay and enjoying the games I mean everything in the we was basically a redesigned game cube But it was the fun of the games that get people there. So like you were saying tom when it comes to intellectual property They got mario. They got mario kart. Yeah, it's a rehash the eight deluxe But they finally fixed battle mode from what I understand and you you're gonna assume that the next version's gonna have a lot more fixes So, yeah, it's definitely this little gateway into nintendo It's not it's not like a if you want like you're saying really you want power Like you might want to go to a pc. You don't really need a nintendo You're not gonna need those games and maybe the nvidia shield is right for some people But again different people want different things and and some people who are you're like I don't understand buying this just for zelda and mario You obviously don't like zelda and mario as much as some other people and that's fair You shouldn't buy it then uh, but people who do May see that as absolutely worth it because you're getting more than just zelda and mario You are getting some third party games. Maybe not that many So, yeah, I mean, I am not of the mind That there is one rational solution for everyone Uh, and so I don't look at the nintendo switch and think it's irrational But I do realize yeah, this is not going to be a right the right device for some people It is going to be the right device for some and it's turned out to be selling really well So it must be the right device for enough people to keep nintendo in business at least for now Hey there ias actar. Thank you for being on the show. Uh, where can people find more of what you're doing? Hey there internet, you can find me at seenat.com or you can find me on twitter twitter.com slash i y az I am not the singer that is at i y az live that guy is awesome. We're good friends, but i'm not him Are you good friends now? That's good to hear. You know, we've talked a bit actually Yeah, that's good. Yeah, it's very odd We're buddies now The bonding of the ias is it makes me happy to think that the internet made that happen And there's a title for a different book Bonding of the ias is I look forward to seeing that Written by Tom Merritt Also with us today, of course is led and peralta drawing Uh, mr. Browning in his iron man-like suit. This is brilliant. Yes Yes, you know when I saw that in the main in the in the stories I thought wow, that's that I got to do that because today, of course is national superhero day So I know he's not from the u.s. But it's still You know, he's still part of the superhero realm as far as I'm concerned I drew uh, yes, mr. Browning in his iron man suit And uh, you can see it in all its glory right now at lendperalta store.com Oh, I also want to I also want to plug a lot of people may not even know this I am on a show called creature geek On tested.com. 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Nice I have uh, which is I have some questions about that uh goog calm Sony sensors profitable profitability a series of car tubes paint the sky painted sky blue deep thoughts by elan musk Uh peer-to-peer pressure It dropped me some cash, dude unlegendary zelda is google pixeling us a bill of goods Spider-man won't help sony this time I'm Sony spider-man offers new yin the underground super highway And the hi as I like that one. I can't vote for that because I I have a conflict Conflict of vias is yeah We should get both of you on the show one of these days Oh, the was there that you said you said the the title life. It was the the the bringing together of the eye as is or something. It was Bonding of the eye as the bonding But then I'm promising something that the show doesn't deliver Well, you say it at the end that is the promise So you don't get to see the eyes have it. Um I'm for the bonding of the eye as You know like elan musk putting slot car racing to your daily commute The weird thing is the sleds look a lot more like uh, you know the shoe sizes you wear. Yeah, yeah, that's what they look like Okay, did you guys Did you guys ever have the uh the little car shooters? Yes, it was just a rubber band and a little plastic thing and you pulled it back You put your matchbox or your hot wheels car and then you pressed a button and it released and shot the car Yeah, that's what it looks like to me You know it does. Uh, so, um Title the eyes have it. Yeah, the eye as has it or the elan musk. Which one do you like the most roger? I like these slot car racing to your daily commute because it's kind of Descriptive of the up to so It's a little longer. What's the title? It's a negative. You can have the eye as have it And just tells you that I as is in the show really Um no promises more I as is than we have they'll also realize Turn the episode on you like oh that's that how about we says I was promise multiple eyes is Different you laugh when it is funny I want more I as The title clearly impromises multiple eyes Like that Len The eye as has it so it's singular I didn't mean something. Yes have it Well, then you can't be punny there Is there any way to shorten I as the slot car one? um Make it an anagram EMB SCR Just a weird anagram don't explain it EMB SCR TYDC You click it and you're like, oh Well, it clearly didn't over promise elan uh elan Elan's underground slot car racing. I kind of like spider-man won't help sony this time Hey, you can do that one too Any last minute thoughts? Just do the spider-man. Yeah, I like puns become great The xenomorph is number one. There's mine You know the whole thing with the underground Car shuttle thing, why don't you just take you sit you have those freaking tunnels? Why don't you just build a subway then? And then people take that instead what? Because you're still in the car you want to have control of the smell of the car That's so why don't why don't you have a system where you the subway car is just a flat bed? And then you you basically bring this is I always harp on this you have a little Carriage that's like a very you know Size enough for a bent seat, but you know you can have all your How different is that from what he's proposing except that you have to build less stuff in his proposal to make it happen Because because once you do that then you have to come up with the varying sizes You have to adapt it to various sizes of cars. No, you don't it's a parking space Well, the parking space is is a defined space. So right certain cars are either longer wider Then basically a parking space is is generally fits most cars Uh, and unless they're ultra long in which case they can't use the system, right? You have to have a standard size car. Well, then you also have a matter of weight Wait, who says you can't actually have multiple sleds that connect to each other Well, no, you can you can I don't think I don't think you want to connect them to each other though The whole packet switching idea is that you're not all going necessarily to the same place Oh, no, it's like limo's or larger cars They wouldn't be able to bend. Oh, yeah, they would just have to have a special You'd have to have a special elevator for them. Maybe you need to request it, you know, like Well, there will be fewer the other cars on the surface So it's like it's like having a route that doesn't allow trucks There might be a guy smarter than us working on this really not musk. So Somebody out there is thinking of this. They're like, you know, listen, listen, how many of us were born on June 28th Oh, me and Elon musk. We're the only ones who are allowed to talk about this That's that's a good way. I'm sure that's that's that's his criteria for hiring people only people born on that day Not even an argument. That's just more of a statement It was just a reminder that my birthday is coming up in in two months But you always tell me not to remember your birthday. I don't care if you do I'm some of the Allen Don't remember Tom's birthday. I don't get upset if people forget it. I also don't like to make a big deal about it But you just but it is Elon musk's birthday and we should we should make sure to wish him and Felicia day happy birthday Oh, you brought in someone else to kind of bolster that day Submitted in it's not a big deal for me. Really. It's mostly Felicia day's birthday Felicia who? Oh stop You just stop right now I'm going to go grocery shopping. I think what are you going to get I don't know kale No food in the house. So hailing quinoa. That's all he's going to buy. Oh, yeah I bought kale yesterday last night gimbab. I'm going to make some gimbab Now we're going to go get Korean food on sunday. I might order gimbab now that you've got hands in my head Un skinny bop Hey, uh, if your friends are in the end facebook go and look at the video. I just posted On my wall I just shared on my wall It's one of the funniest things I think better be funny. I've been on facebook all year. Oh Oh, you will laugh. You will laugh unskitty kpop But it's facebook right now like hell Hashtag portal to hell Can I Every time I open facebook it's showing me memories Yeah, because you're a big fan of cats No, it's me and soilier this time Ray ray the dog just sighed when I said that she's like I don't see why okay This is why I hate facebook. I opened up facebook. I follow yen It's not there. You don't see it. You don't see a video about That mum's decided that you're you're not important enough apparently Really that's an ape Monkey oh don't monkeys have tails. Yes. It is an ape. Did you see it? Oh, I did see it at the end there Okay, didn't catch it to the brand This is the best best entertainment ever is is telling people to look at something and then laughing about it Why are you laughing at it? React videos it's in it. Yeah, you got to stay till the end the DT and s reacts to an ape video posted by Len It's funny is that chimp is also a senior. So really it's just a disagreement between two old people All right, because there's a lady an older lady in a wheelchair at the end. You have to stop this primate I Found the whole thing a little on the nose If you're not friends with Len on Facebook audience viewers So this is the kind of stuff that you that you watch before you head out to the grocery store, huh? That's right It gets me in the mood I don't even care where it lands, but yeah Superficial video I read that wrong is super fecal Man does this mean that Len's becoming an old man who yes post funny videos on Facebook I'm gonna post I'm becoming an old man in a whole different way. So I'm not gonna judge Roger's been an old man his own life. Yes. I was old before the world was older Almost there just a few more seconds. Oh wait Facebook is gonna start its own content ID thing to see that where you can claim videos as your own That's never gone wrong Why? You know, it really is it really is kind of thing the more people that get involved is on the worst off it gets Yeah, cuz the edge cases start to to rule things that the edge case Instead of becoming the exception seem to become Less of an exception. Well when you only have 15 people there's a likelihood that a lot of edge cases don't crop up Yeah, but then once you get a large amount of people all the edge cases crop up and then people other people you have Enough other people who get offended by them that even if most people were fine with it. You still have to Identify it adapt So he brings bacon says I gave myself an age advantage. I was born at a very young age Good work Amazing accomplishment Amazing Okay, I believe that I have published this show and that our work here for this week is done Thank you again, Roger Chang for all of your efforts this week Thank you Tom for allowing me to fill in your in your stead and Let's get Andy Beach on to talk about raspberry pi stuff you and raspberries man No, it's game emulation. I thought you'd like I know it's I'm teasing. I thought you would like it I did it for you. You know what? I'm gonna come up with a little app that just puts a slash s on everything Well, I kind of assume that's there on everything. All right. Thanks everybody. Bye