 We all love cameras and of course AI is the center of absolutely everything at CES these days. I'm in the slim design booth and they promised the world's first miniaturized affordable AI body camera. That's all the buzzwords. Anyway, I'm here with Walter Koenigs and he's going to tell us all about it. Yes. Thank you for having me. We are a design agency. We develop consumer electronics for a lot of companies. We've done a lot of cameras for MSI, a 360 camera, for Panasonic and other. And we also do body cameras. So when we were developing the body cameras for the Dutch police, we saw that there is a lot of other use cases and also professionals would like a small camera that's cheap but they don't get one because it's too expensive. So like bus drivers and all kinds. So what we set out to do is make a very small camera that uses your phone as the hardware. So it stores on the phone and it also uses the connection, the connectivity of the phone so we can make the camera small and very cheap and that's basically what we set out. Is it over Bluetooth or what is the connectivity? Yeah, around connectivity and that's something that we develop ourselves. Proprietary network between the two. Okay. So I'm looking at it right now. This is a video and audio podcast so I'm going to explain a lot. So it looks to be about maybe not even two inches across and maybe a half an inch, three quarters of an inch tall and it's got a big red oval on it telling people I'm recording you right now, correct? And so how does it work? How do you enable it? How does it work? So if you press it for a long press it starts the alarm and the alarm is then sent to a pre-selected emergency contact. So then it's somebody or your father or maybe somebody else or it can be the back end of a security company that has people watching and here you see a demo of that. So it's basically for families, persons themselves or for more professional stakeholders can use it. So I'm wearing that, the body cam, phone cam and I'm wearing it because I'm going to walk down a dark alley at CES and some dodgy person starts coming towards me. I press and hold for the alarm but I'm also recording at the same time. Yes, yes. So it's then sent to the clouds. So whenever somebody then grabs it off you, it's still the footage and yeah, it's still in the clouds and you can use it later for in court or anything. Okay. So what is the, if it's going to the cloud then it's going from there, from the phone cam to the phone up to the cloud and then are there other uses for that data for viewing it? I mean, are you going to do a kid's birthday party with this? Sure, sure. You can also just record things and have it as a GoPro kind of thing. But also we see a lot of use cases where people that are working in remote areas and they don't have all the expertise, they can then just press the button. The call goes to a back end where there's an expert that can help them then do things that they don't normally do. So you see now then tasks can be done by less qualified personnel that can then do things that otherwise they wouldn't. So we can become remote control devices to people smarter than us? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or even when there's an ambulance, the doctor can already look into the patients and what has to be done, what can they advise the ambulance personnel and they also can prepare it in the hospital how to, to, to, yeah. Take care of them in some way. Yeah, yeah. And so how much is phone cam going to cost? It's $69. Oh, you're serious about affordable? Yes, yes. So basically that's what we set out to do is to make it as cheap as possible to, to be able to, to have all the connectivity that you can. That's really, really interesting. So if people wanted to look up a phone cam, where would they go? Phonecam.io. Very good. Oh, wait, I forgot one question. That was my question earlier. What's AI about it? We have now low light enhancements, but we are already now partnering up with a lot of companies that would like to use our phone cam because it uses the CPU of the phone. It can do much more than a lot of other cameras can because it's much more advanced. The CPU in the phone is much more advanced than normal cameras. So you're opening up an API where they can get access to the data. OK, very interesting. All right, thank you very much. You're welcome. Appreciate your time. All right, thank you very much.