 That has been one of the impossible goals of my lifetime is to try to reconcile the perspective on treatment that's implicated by things like psychedelics and the perspective on treatment that's standard in American psychiatry, especially with standard antidepressants I've never reconciled it, you know people very often consult with me on patients because I've been doing this for a long time and I'm always dumbfounded. Somebody's depressed. They've got problems. Should I tell them? Why don't you think about going to a legal psychedelic retreat offshore and Doing a psychedelic. It's probably gonna bring you face to face with your issues See if you can resolve your issues, right? Or should I say, you know what? You're so depressed Why don't you start on an SSRI like Prozac or Paxil? Let's just see if we can make you feel better There's real practical implications of this