 Hey everyone, we're back here live at the Linux Foundation open source summit in Austin Having a great time talking to some really interesting folks around the world of open source and you know As someone who's been in technology 30 years open source used to have a very Sort of small connotation right there were some open source folks Linux was the king of open source the Linux foundation But today open source touches just about every aspect of Software and of course the world Runs on software and so our next guest is is Tina so Tina's with arm, but she's also the co-chair or chair chair of the Linux Foundation edge LF edge Group and and first of all Tina welcome and thanks for coming on today Secondly if you wouldn't mind through our audience out here who maybe are not familiar with the LF edge Project and group. Why don't you give us a kind of a little background? Hi, everyone. This is Tina Joe. I Serve as the governing board chair of LF edge. So LF edge is the umbrella project it provides the framework for toco cloud IOT and Many other business cases. So it is comprised of many projects like a criminal edge Expansion open horizon Evering is such a now we have 12 projects on the net and there were one more coming on the way Which is edge gallery? So yesterday here in Austin, we had the LF edge workshop We gave the talk about the technical sessions Legendary talk of the presentation about who we are Why are we here and what we are going to do in the near future? and we also showcase the end-to-end like on the robotics like cross project Collaboration and also the clean energy to show your footprint of carbon. It's very interesting and also we gave synergy about the Award proposal and also the mentorship program to even help the high schoolers and University students and the junior engineers to grow in the context of an links foundation Excellent, but that we covered a lot of ground right there, right? You know, let me take it back down a little bit. So first of all when we talk about edge I don't know if everyone out here really understands just how big Edge and edge computing will be right. We've all spent let's say the last 15 years Kind of getting our heads around if you will Getting our heads around cloud, right? We move from data center on-prem Perimeters to storing information in the cloud, right? And we finally I think everyone kind of understands cloud though Not everyone has everything on the cloud Most organizations have at least something on the cloud in the cloud and Just when we finally got our Arms around that now hold on with that cloud stuff. Let me introduce you to the edge And and now people saying well wait a second the edge What would you know? What exactly are we talking about here, and we've had several people? Today you're probably the third person who we've Talked about a little bit with edge and we've covered it before on TechStruckTV, right? The idea of moving Closer to where the users are closer to where the data originates Right. We'll have profound implications for certain Applications some of the ones you talked about, right? Some of the areas and verticals that you spoke about where if we could keep that data Close by and do the analysis there. Hey, it's a lot faster. It's a lot cheaper And we can do more with it right there, and I mean that's my feeble attempt Exactly to explain what the edge is Is there what else am I missing? What have I left out? Yeah, I think edge computing is more like an extension from the cloud computing when I say cloud it includes Not only public cloud, but also the private cloud and talk of cloud, right? So for any point all the way from the source of the data from the cloud all the way to the end The end the end user and all the other way around upstream, right? And anywhere in between this pass could be the point of edge computing edge node It can be at the access node or regional regional clouds Place location and also can be at the home edge can be at the server rule and any enterprises So and there there will be a white paper of LF edge 2022 being available Either today or any time this week you can get it from the LF edge website Search the tab on the resource you will you can download the white paper well as long as you brought it up We might as well tell people what what's the URL for the LF edge website? It's elf edge dog dot org that's L F edgy dge dot org Excellent good stuff now you mentioned yesterday as we would we've been telling people well did today sort of the official day one Of open source summer, but yesterday was sort of affiliate conference day and L L F edge L F edge was one of the Providers of I don't want to call it zero day because that has security connotation SSF right, but But you had some activities going on yesterday from L F edge. It was a workshop, right? Yeah, it's a workshop on 2 to 5 30. Actually, we have so many topics. We ended up finished by 6 really Well, that sounds like you've got a lot on your plate when you when you're describing it But why don't we talk about what you guys covered at the workshop? Yeah at the workshop first we have our pick talk about the chain of L F edge And we have many members all of the world that cover from Asia Europe in there and even Africa and And then we talked about I to give a talk about why edge Because from the Forbes from all the analysis report you can see the time The total accessible market and also the same the service ball market You can get from edge is large by 2025 or by 2030 you can see The road the line is going up like this So we think this we can see a lot of needs like especially the 5g and metaverse recently you can see a lot of technology is needed like an FV The AR VR or all of the things are needy and then we have the technical Lightning talk because we have 12 projects. They only get a chance to give a lightning talk some of the end users sitting for the whole afternoon telling me he was very impressive on the the We call it dev ops for the infrastructure orchestration which allow you to access different backend for Azure for Microsoft also the GCP answers and also the AWS wavelengths and we can provide a framework for the software in the end users Manufacturers you can use the different clouds not just only you locking with one cloud providers I think this cloud providers can take a next step to be the 10 key solution for the IOT the manufacturers And also the other takeaway we think about is the copper footprint You know if you go to Washington DC these days, you gotta tell you gotta talk about the clean energy green energy we have somebody and he was dying in from Iceland at Minor is afternoon or nighttime and he was actually in own the eyes showing us live Like how they use the project of flash to take the data and you can see the temperature and the data footprint in The big land of Iceland. It's really great and also like project error ring they make the data and analysis then you see for your Whenever you add a socket or a module of the IOT How are you going to contribute to the carbon? How much you are going to contribute to the green? Like this is very important and also like open horizon. These are all still the stage one project They are very impressive. So they the stage one Open horizon they have done the the very get the work leveraging the IBM Internal system to show people what the data platform looks like for for the IOT so and LF edge is not only focused on IOT. There are many like telco clouds And the others like for the telco side that you can see they showcase how they provided the services like for the The telcos like AT&T Verizon how they use LF edges open source to build their like use the UPF to cross their network and to do the orchestration and also and Speaking of the public cloud they work with the top Public cloud to provide us to do so and also mentioned the Edge X They have done the great work for the MQTT and for the industry IOT To test the temperature and report any event which is abnormal there is in most of the stage three Projects the Aquino Edge X Fungi. It's already in Widely adopted and deployment all over the world and the second stage two We call it the growth stage is still being grown now Their task is to get in more diverse have more participants rather than just Google Dynamic or I mean like several companies they need to be more diverse and that means the project the open source project Based on Linux could be more widely Adopted by the products from the vendors not only for the end users And for the stage one it's really interesting I am surprised to see even stage one projects got a lot of attentions from the participants Yeah, we are very happy to have this Workshop and this is actually the first in person workshop after pandemic at the elf edge level And we hope that we this is more like a warm-up and we can keep discussing this and me everybody at the one summit in Seattle I think it's in November. Yeah, and that was so that Is the event in November will be just an elf edge summit or it's a big one summit Yes, now they changed to one summit because it's not only networking and edge but also the cloud So that's why it's called one summit love it. Yeah, you know this that's a concept that I was discussing with someone earlier I actually was off-camera a friend of mine Who's involved in an open source project and that is it's important to remember and you you said it well too early on that you know does this in does this For sure certain link between edge and cloud. Yeah, and there's also there's a Very real connection between network and edge and cloud and endpoint and edge and cloud and The other thing is a lot of us tend to think oh, we're gonna move To the edge closer to where data is because it's where you know people are their phones their computers tablets, what have you? But it's also the data being generated by billions of iot devices and stuff as well We want to be closer to that, but the real idea is that None of these Concepts or areas Operate in a vacuum. They're all part of sort of a unified computing Structure where whether it's cloud edge network, you know wherever They're not exclusively there Right information data analysis compute is being done Across all of that and that fabric if you I don't even know if the fabrics are right word But that the power of that is is extremely I mean that that could be the future of of where computing goes in the next You know 10 20 years, what have you? Beyond yesterday show though, there's more LF edge Activity here at the open-source summit Yeah, some of our Speakers yesterday actually I think Glenn Darring's making a talk about open horizon again Today's and he's he didn't have time to show the video with the robot is crawling yesterday But he's gonna show the video today. That'd be very cool. Yeah, and also I think Basio and who gave very interesting talk about the carbon and He's also giving talk either today or tomorrow and I think the LF edge different projects keep having the hacker songs one of that is the LF edge Aquino and etymic are having a hacker song. It's kicking off it's already kicking off like today and The input entries will be ended by June 29th. It will last to tier like October so the winner team will get the $20,000 cash price. That's great. Yeah, and if you haven't signed it up, please do so and again Go to LF edge.org. Yeah to do that as well. So much exciting stuff going on at the edge, huh? Yeah, good for that November is is this next big conference, but there's hack-thons going on all the time Yeah, and also also the summit probably in August from a criminal and LF edge They have the meet-up. I mean the LF edge edge expunging. They have the meet-up Periodically in China in the States and you just need to go to the wiki page or the event page to see So all our events announced under the LF edge webpage and you can check it at the events We have the event calendars there So there you have it if you want to stay ahead of what what's coming. What's the next big thing? This might be something you really want to join join into You know, I want to thank you for coming on. This was great. You've given us a great update on what's going on with the So it's it's the Linux foundation edge working group or it's not the edge foundation or anything LF edge is more like FN. It's an umbrella project and it has many projects under it And each project they have the working group or have the blueprints and subcommittees, you know, we work with the Open mainframe project, which is also Linux foundation, right? And it's very similar. It's an umbrella for 26 I think different projects Biggest the one is Zoe But that's for mainframe and open source So it's that similar kind of umbrella just called off edge. Yeah, we like It's an umbrella project, but we still have the synergy like we try to do and to showcase Mentorship program and award across and also security. I know you have security background. It's a very Important path first we have the home edge. They got a golden bridge golden batch from the open SSF and we have the criminal Has the security subcommittee do the linus and vars and could be hunter scanning for all the projects for release and also for the maturity review and we have Ajax found G and they have the specific Security working group. Yeah, and all the projects are going from one stage to another and security is a must-have to pass the criteria That's music to my ears. I'm glad to hear your thought of security. Not as an after like, oh, yeah Security, yeah That makes me that makes me smile. Yeah, all righty