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So the life cycle basically is honey, nut, cheerio, cheerio. Oh, get out of here. Hey! How long have you been holding on to that dad joke? That's so good, right? That's like another level dad joke right there. That's not bad, dude. Honey, nut, and cheerio. How do you guys feel the podcasting with the headphones? It's kind of weird. I don't know, dude. I don't know how I feel about it right now. Feel free? Yeah, it's somewhat that, but I'm like, I'm not quite in the zone yet, dude. This might take a few times. Could be that and also the extreme heat that's in this. That could be of a factor too, yeah. My legs are so sweaty right now. There's a sweat box in here, so we'll see. I feel naked. I'm a little greased up on the legs right now, so that's not good. Did you get your lift this morning? I did, I worked out, but I was at 6.30. No way I'll work out in the afternoon. Right now it's hot, dude. It's like 90 degrees. I don't know what you're going to do. What are you going to do? Well, I did it already. I mean, it was hot. I just ended up shirtless by the way through. In front of the wives? No, I wait till they left. All right, I don't want to put too much out there. I had to hear from Katrina. I heard you were prints around with no shirt on yesterday. No, I wasn't prancing around. She took a chance to pick me up. She picked me up and she was like, hey, Justin's looking good right now. No, I was up in the boys' room because it was like blazing hot. It was an inferno in there. I'm like, dude, this can't happen. So we're all shirtless. And then I walked out and then, yeah, then they were there. Adam, you better come home. She caught me. She caught me. I don't know how long I could last. I know. Right now. I want to cause issues. How about you? You haven't got one, obviously. You got home late. Yeah, no, I didn't get home till after midnight. Dude, by the way, too, Salt Lake City, Utah, that airport. Yeah. Worst airport I've flown. Really? Yeah, worst. Why? Well, it's OK. I shouldn't say it because I know people. I think people say JFK is like one of the worst. I've heard Dallas airport's really rough. But I've flown out of Dallas. I didn't think it was that bad. Midway used to be really bad. Yeah, you said in Chicago. I don't think it's not that bad. I haven't flown out of every airport or anything. But this is the worst one I've ever flown out of. And it's the layout of it. Did you get my text where I said it was how long it was going to be until I left? So check this out. Last night, we're leaving. We both are leaving Utah. Doug's going home to San Jose. And I'm coming out here to Reno. And he was A22. A only goes to 25. He's A22. And I'm B5. So we're walking together. Oh, cool. We'll hang out until then. But because we've already flown in and out of here already, I'm like, you know what, I better double check to make sure that even though you're seems like you should only be about seven away from me, which sounds like maybe 50 yards, you know? No, dude, this thing is like, literally, it took me 15 minute walk to get from where he was at. Straight 15 minutes. And it's the only airport where I've seen this too, where up above, it tells you like, seven minutes to here. 10 minutes to here. Yeah, because it's spread out. You might want to go from a walk to a sprint. Yeah, and also, it's actually, and it's a connecting airport. So there's a lot of people that are going north or south from there that are coming from east to west. It's a hub. So you get people that get like black meat. One of my flights was delayed. And like half the plane's like stressing out because they know they're landing in Utah. And they know that if they have J and they're coming into A, it's going to take them 30, 45 minutes to get to their side. I hate that. How stressful. Oh, I hate that when you, when the airport, it takes you like an hour to get to your rental car. I hate that. You have to take a train here, train there. So there were no of those, you know, those, they're not escalators, but they're like kind of, they accelerate your walk. Yeah, but you know what, your asshole uses those right. Yeah, you want to run through those. They set their bags down, they sit down. They take a break. Yeah, and that's for speed, bro. And then when there's, that's the turbo lane. Exactly. I ended up skipping all those because I could power walk faster than I could weave through all the people that are doing that. So it's like, well, that sucks. It's like we were playing Mario Kart and you had those arrows. That's exactly what I was thinking. Yeah. What's the airport that's got all the controversy around it, like the conspiracy around it? It's in Denver. Yeah. What? It's in Denver, all the murals and all the stuff. The conspiracy theorists, like this is their haven because they think that there's some underground. Yes. Like some, it's like secret base or something underneath it as far as I know. It's actually kind of compelling. You guys can take an airport story and transition into conspiracy theories blows my mind right now. Because they got the all-seeing eye and it's like there's weird stuff all over the season. The name of this podcast really. No. Yeah, I know, we're becoming the hub for it, dude. It took us like seven years to find out that Justin and I had this fall. I didn't know that, but yeah, seriously, like I went, like when I was in college, I got really sucked into the whole conspiracy theory stuff just because I don't know why somebody had told me something about like fiat currency. I think it was the first thing and I'm like, what? Oh, that's not a conspiracy. Yeah. That's just like the introduction, you know? And then you start going, but then you have to really like check yourself and be like, well, OK, like is this feasible at all? You got to really like throw away a lot of it and just look at it as pure entertainment. Well, speaking of which, do you guys see, is it McAfee, that's saying his name right? McAfee's girlfriend, got interviewed? Did you see that? No. She's like, I talked to him the day of, I think it was like the morning that he supposedly committed suicide. He was good, everything was solid. We had a plan because we were getting extradited. We knew what our strategy was going to be. She's like, he didn't kill himself. There's no way that he killed himself. That is so crazy. Oh, dude, come on, bro. That and Epstein, get the fuck out of here. How do you reconcile those two very blatantly obvious ones? Come on, dude. I don't understand why it's not like the biggest thing on news that we're talking about, where everybody is trying to get to the bottom. He's controlling the news, bro. They want you to believe. I know. Every time, yeah, you try to explain how things really are. It's like you sound like a whack-a-doodle. As soon as McAfee kills himself or gets suicided, they're like, oh, release the Delta variant of coronavirus. Yeah, thank you. Everybody gets scared about that real quick. Oh, man. Hey, Doug, is your mic turned on over there today? Yes, it is. What did you think of Park City, Utah? I liked it a lot. Did you like it? Yeah, we didn't spend much time in there, but I enjoyed where we were at. Is it like a ski town? Yeah, it's really the first time I've ever been in there. I've been to Salt Lake City before, but I never drove up to, which is only, it was what, a half hour or so from the 40 minutes from the city. So it's not that far of a drive. And then, I mean, now I would relate to like a Bay Area people going up to Tahoe, right? It's kind of like that, right? So, but it's even closer for them. And it's even like more epic with like ski resorts. Now, how frustrating is it when, because I always get frustrated with this when I go other places in the US and they're nice and clean. And then you see these gorgeous houses and then I make the mistake of asking like how much, yeah. How much is that incredibly? Like that 5,000 square foot mansion over there. It's like 20 punches, right? Yeah, and they're like, oh, you know, that's $400,000, $500,000 or something like that. I was just like, dude. I was actually really, so I was really surprised though by how expensive it was to be anywhere near the Park City area though. Like, I mean, it rivals the Tahoe numbers. So I was like, Jesus. Yeah, I did not, I would, like you're talking about properties that are close to some of these ski resorts that are the price of what properties on the lake are. Yeah, you start getting up for a little mine shaft thing was like five million, right? The four or five million for some of those little ones. Yeah, crazy prices. Yeah, and then I mean, get up to 10. Now, what about the surrounding towns and stuff? Is it like you would find, like, you know, we go to San Jose, we go to San Jose. Yeah, so now as you get further out from, you know, either Park City or, so there's like the midway of, and I don't remember all the town's names really well, but if they're midway from Salt Lake City to Park City, there's like some suburbs in between. And then there you can get still, then you can get some pretty, like a, you know, what's a 1.3, 1.5 over here, you know, gets us like hardly anything, right? A track home, right? It gets you a custom 5,000 square foot three car garage. And they, you know, think about all their stuff too, what I love is because almost everybody there has an RV or a boat or something. Like all their garages are like the 20 foot ceiling ones where you can drive an RV or a boat with a tower in it. They had this one spot that she took us over to that was, dude, there's this, it's probably, I want to say 50 houses or so. And I'll remember, I'll get the name over the next time we talk, but they're in this gated community and it was literally a wakeboard community. So everybody had a wakeboard boat and the lake in the middle of these 50 houses was this, you know, it was man-made like little- Like a finger lake, like just when it looks the strength. Totally made for wakeboarding to pass down and back. And everybody had their own dock that had its full roof and boats elevated out of the water sitting right outside their house. And these were all like 6,000 square foot houses. Wow. Now, I feel like I read an article, I was trying to find it right now, I can't find it. I feel like there was a house in Palo Alto that just sold. The 501? No, it was like tens of millions of dollars over asking. Did you guys hear about this? It wasn't Mark Mastroff's place. No, it was, I mean, it's a nice house, but it was over asking, like tens of millions of dollars. I was trying to find the article. I did hear about that, but yeah, that's crazy. That's just insane. You imagine you put your house up for sale for $15 million and someone's like, I'll take it for 25. Yeah, it's, you know, though I've been talking to a lot of people since our Peter Letterman episode about like the whole, because I kind of, when I first heard him talk about, what does he call unintended savings or something, I forget what the term he used. Oh, right. So basically the consequences of COVID and being basically locked up for- Especially people who are traveling, so they're saving money. Yeah, there's a lot of people, and since then, because after he's talked about it, I've been like asking more people and I've been sharing that episode. And they're like, yeah, no, that was my husband and I. We canceled our Paris trip this year. We had Disneyland planned with the kids and you started doing math on that, 20, 30, 40 grand. Sure, yeah. That you didn't spend. You canceled down payment on something. Right, and then maybe even more so, if you're that same person too, where a couple probably goes to dinners a couple times a month, you know, so. See, I spent more money. Did you guys spend more or less money? I spent more on junk food. I was ordering more food. I ordered a lot from Amazon, but I don't care. I think I actually saved money, though, overall, because we try, like our thing is going places and doing things, so we've really cut that out. I'm with you. I saved for sure, it definitely- More than you would have. More than I would have. Because like Justin, I tend to, that's like one of our favorite things to do, Katrina and I is to go some random place, stay at a hotel, find a really nice restaurant to eat at. Like that's like an awesome weekend to me, like a two, three-day weekend where we do something like that. But I also, that can deem you for real quick, three, five grand, you know, and those add up. Racks up like crazy. Yeah, so I didn't do that really in COVID. Dude, speaking of junk food and food, did you guys see this new approved? I'm gonna pull it up right now because it's unbelievable. It's one of those things. Okay, do you guys remember? It was like two years ago and there was a medical device that was FDA approved. Just suck out after. Yeah, you guys remember that, right? Inspire assist. Yeah, it was literally a tube attached to your stomach and then when you eat. Medical intervention. That sort of was Inspire Assist, isn't it? Yeah, it's basically, exactly, medical bulimia. You basically puke it out. We're like, oh, this is a great breakthrough. All right, there's a new one. You ready for this? Okay, what do we got now? Okay. A weight loss tool that uses magnets to stop people from opening their mouth. Oh, I saw, I saw a lame post about that. Yes, wide enough to eat solid food has been developed by scientists in order to tackle obesity. Was this invented by Dr. Evil? Magnets. Like, okay. We're gonna use magnets. Are these the dumbest scientists of all time? Like, you invented something to keep someone from opening their mouth? You're a genius. I saw some people, I saw some people trying to defend it though with Lane and say that it's for a very small percentage of the population that have some condition specifically that they can't control and so therefore they're. They just see things. I mean, no matter how you and Lane said the same thing that I'm sure you guys would say is just, it doesn't matter. They call it Pac-Man syndrome, doesn't matter. Yeah, have you seen the picture of it? No. It's literally, look at that. So they attach one end to the top to the other and then it's like very powerful magnets so you can barely open your mouth. So you can only basically drink your calories. That sounds awful, yeah. And that's a diet strategy that is medical. This is what we're dealing with. This is crazy. It was that due for any of the behaviors. This is insane. Hey, speaking of that and Lane, I saw you tagged him on the artificial sweetener thing. Ty, I didn't read the article. So this was done in vitro and I know that takes him off because it's not a human study but it's another study showing that and there's been a few in vitro studies showing that artificial sweeteners, sugarlose, aspartame, they actually turn normal gut bacteria into, they become more inflammatory and can start to attack, theoretically attack the gut wall. So cause problems. Now there's been several in vitro studies that show that there's some issues with how these artificial sweeteners affect gut bacteria. There haven't been any human studies to show this and that's as big, right? Now, I mean, here, I mean, you guys know, I mean, our stance obviously is, I've never had a client lose weight by switching to artificial sweeteners except for those that track everything. They're competitors. That's it. I see tremendous value. Never seen an average person. But even then it's only when they're competing versus when they go off track and they're not as dying. Well, I remember talking to, we brought this up, I don't know, maybe a year or two ago when I cut off the diet sodas. So one of the things that I noticed was that's when I would keep allowing it back in and because I know it's zero calories, I go from one every few days to one every day. It feels like there's no consequences. Yeah, exactly. Because I know there's no consequences for putting on body fat. I would justify allowing them more and more and you do, you crave them more. The more I drink them, the more I crave them. My cravings come back. Simply by switching over to a brand like Hanson's or drinking the Oli Pops instead that have 35 to 100 something calories, just knowing that isn't enough for me to go like, oh, keep it at bay, I'll just have one. I'm good because I don't want all the extra calories from sugar. It's a natural barrier. It allows you to create better behaviors. And again, in the studies show this, when people aren't controlled, in other words, all their calories aren't controlled, they're just allowed to live normally, which is regular life, and people switch out their regular sodas or diet sodas, they don't lose weight. Because they eat more food. It's just, and you have to just, it's who you're talking to. And I think Lane attracts mostly competitor, like people like that. And yeah, dude, if you're using his app, you know what I'm saying, and you're tracking your food and you're somebody who's like that, then yeah, then artificial speed dial here and there to replace from sugar syrup on your protein pancakes or adding it into your coffee here and there, like, I don't see that as a problem. As much as I see using it as a weight loss strategy for somebody who's 100 pounds overweight has a terrible relationship with food. And then the answer is, oh, let's stop eating, drinking these sodas and move you just to diet sodas. It's like, you're just putting a band there. Yeah, you just see like cause and effect after that. I always tend to see more calories sneaking their way back in. Because it's just part of that whole cattle. You have yet to find a study that's not controlled that shows weight loss. They don't. Only the ones where they're totally controlled on what they eat show weight loss. Otherwise it just, people just don't lose weight using them. They haven't solved anything. When they were first invented, they were lauded as like the solution. Oh my gosh, here's the solution. Now you can have something that tastes sweet with no calories. This will solve everybody's problems. It didn't solve anything. Do you guys remember? They underestimated human meat. We shared the old articles on the sugar as they were advertising sugar as a fat loss. Oh, I remember that. I did. Oh, that was really old. Yeah, yeah, old advertising that sugar is sugar to help lose body fat. You cannot believe them ever. Do you guys remember the fat substitute, Olestra? Do you guys remember that? Bro, I remember actually getting diarrhea from that as a kid. That came out when we were in high school. And it was in Lay's chips. And they had to pull it. They pulled it like after a year. And I'm right. Ain't no leakage. It was the number one. Yes. Oh, somebody was telling me about that the other day. I think it was my sister. Yeah, like they had to pull those chips off the market. I remember even though I was back in high school crushing chips like that. And I remember when those came out, I remember thinking like, why don't you, this was before the news came out. I was getting the shits every time I came out. Damn, I'm losing weight. Yeah, it's working. Because it goes through your body. Yeah, it's in your pants every 20 minutes. It goes right through your body. Little inconvenience here and there, but hey. Disgusting. Anyway, dude, I listened to a very controversial podcast the other day that Doug recommended to us about two weeks ago. It was, what's his name, Doug? Is it Dark Horse podcast? Dark Horse, yes. And it's Brett Weinstein. Oh, it's Brett Weinstein's. And he interviews a doctor and a researcher on who's on the front lines of COVID treatments. And he talks about all of these clinical trials and there's a lot of them. And I looked them up. After I listened to the podcast, I listened to it. I'm like, let me see if these exist. There's a ton on a drug called ivermectin. Are you guys familiar with ivermectin? No, I've heard the name, but I'm not familiar. Yeah, I mean, I listened to part of that podcast. He also was able to go on Joe Rogan's podcast and he had the same conversation because they've already shut down a lot of these episodes that he did. Weird. I saw Rob Wolf just tweeted. I think it was Weinstein just got pulled off of his social media platform. It's so strange to me because there's lots of these trials that have happened. There's lots of this, there's a lot of evidence. They don't have the double blind placebo-controlled gold standard type trials yet, but there are lots of clinical trials. And it's an old drug. It's been around for 40 years, I think. It's an anti-parasitic drug. But in these trials, and other countries are using them, places in Brazil are using them, Africa is using them, places where they can't get their hands on vaccines quick enough. There were some areas in India, I think that were using ivermectin. And the results apparently are remarkable. There was one in particular where there were frontline workers. This is according to the podcast, okay? There were frontline workers and they gave half of them a, I think once or twice a week dose of ivermectin and then the rest, they gave them nothing. And then they let them treat people with COVID to see what would happen. The people who were taking the ivermectin, zero of them got COVID. The other side, the other group, almost 50% of them. How big was the control group? This was, ah, there were hundreds of doctors in this. Oh, there was hundreds. Yeah, okay. I was one of the five and it was like, well, that could be random. Yeah, you're right. No, there's a lot. There's actually quite a bit. It's really fascinating. And then the reason why they think it's not being promoted, because in other places it is, in other countries, is because, and now this is where the conspiracy part comes out, is because in order four, again, this is on the podcast, in order for any drug to be approved for emergency use authorization, which is how the vaccines got, the public got to use them, because they're not FDA approved, right? They got that designation first, which essentially is pushing something forward because there's no other viable treatment. So it's an emergency. I know we don't have enough research, but go and push it forward because there's no, so in other words, if another viable treatment was shown, for example, Evermectin, they would not have been able to release the vaccines through law by emergency use authorization. So they think the reason why they shut it down is so that they could do, otherwise if they show, if they show this is a viable treatment, they wouldn't have been, that's according to the podcast. I thought that was really interesting and very, very fascinating. Well, what is this, Doug? What's the stuff you got me taking right now? Doug gave me some stuff after listening to all that stuff. I don't know if I should say it on the show. Oh, you can't say it? Oh, I can. Doug's got me taking some droppers. It's got so much controversy around it. It's chlorine dioxide. There's a ton of controversy around it and there's a lot of people. That's the thing that I believe people are saying, well, Trump was saying, drink bleach, but it's not bleach. And there's actually a lot of supporting information regarding that as well. And it's a very microscopic dose that people are using, like drops. The tiny drop and I mix it in a 16 ounce water. But I'm sure we'll hear something about that after this podcast. So thanks, Adam. Well, I just want to be real with the audience. Like, hey, I'm crazy enough to try it. Adam's always good for that. Adam's a trooper, I tell you what. You take everything I give you. I trust you guys. You ask after. I mean, you guys trust me with a lot of things in the business that are a big fricking deal. And you know what I'm saying? It's true. Yeah, so I trust you in my life. That's true. That's it. So as I feel like you guys do with me, kind of, you know. Sometimes I feel like that's kind of like the mutual. Hey, do you remember that scene? Friends of your pumping iron. Remember that scene of pumping iron when they're interviewing Franco and Arnold? And they're asking him. He's telling him he's giving them bad advice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's interviewing Arnold and he goes, oh, Franco's really good. He might say, yes, yes, he's very good. But you know, he takes my advice and it's not hard for me to give the wrong advice. I give you the wrong advice. Franco is pretty smart, but Franco is a child. And when it comes to the day of the contest, I'm his father. He comes to me for advices. So it's not that hard for me to give him the wrong advices. I'll call him the day before and I'll tell him the wrong advice is such a great thing. I love that. No, but that podcast was very interesting. And it's weird how controversial it is. How they're shutting it down. I have one that you guys will like that I just shared it with you to listen to. And I don't know how it would popped up and I actually don't listen to Ben Shapiro's show. Oh, is this the one you were telling me? Yeah, but Ben Shapiro and Russell Brandt. And normally I don't like some of Russell Brandt's stuff. And so I don't really follow him much. Sometimes he uses a hundred words when five words is enough. He does. He does. He definitely like. He thinks of himself as being very poetic. And he's delivery. And so he likes to, you know, weave around. And he's a lot more words. In his defense, I mean, I actually really enjoyed the episode. I really enjoyed it mostly because of him. I enjoyed the conversation that they had. And Shapiro could be a prick and kind of challenging. And so it was really neat to watch Russell navigate through that. And he does so very eloquently. And I'm sure he's the type of person where you either like him or you don't. And I typically don't really like some of his stuff, but it actually now made me more interested in some of his content and what he's doing. He's got, he seems like a very smart guy. But he's like, what happened with that? I don't know a whole bunch, but from what I do know is he was a drug addict, sex addict, and through spiritual practice was able to help himself. Right, the 12 steps. It's really the 12 steps. And he talks about that in there, because they get into like kind of spirituality talk. And he kind of, then Shapiro's kind of trying to challenge him and pigeonhole him into giving him like, well, what is your ideology or, you know, what God do you follow or what is it like? And he's breaking down how he thinks that the 12 step program is like universal and applies to everybody. And like that's kind of where he gets his spirituality from and it goes through each step. And it was interesting. It was really interesting. I didn't think I would thought it was, it sucked me right in. And then I listened to the whole thing. And you know what I didn't know that Shapiro does, which is a bit annoying as a consumer. Cause again, I don't think I've ever listened to a full episode. By the way, have you ever heard him? Did you ever watch the video of him singing WAP? Remember what it was? Does the most cringewer that you ever see. A word, P word. Like he can't say a bad word in the whole thing. Anyway, it's the most ridiculous thing. And I don't know why he looks like he's 12. That was classic though. I know he's not 12. You know, he does it louder with crowd or does it. Some of these other guys do this where they, he did a whole hour, I want to say an hour and a half or so conversation with him. And then he cuts it. And then you have to subscribe to the daily wire to get the rest of it. That's, yeah. That's a new, that's obnoxious. That's like a strategy that you're seeing a lot. Well, and you're, I wonder how well that does because I've seen that. Yeah, I don't know. The cliffhanger, right? Yeah. Well, it seems to be more popular. Although I don't obviously listen to a lot of left leaning type of podcast. But the stuff that is more conservative, there's for sure they are, it seems as though a lot of them are using the angle of trying to protect myself. So I'm not just on iTunes. And so let's make sure we're capturing some of these people that are actual good customers that help this business continue to just keep going. The people that love me for the content I've been doing. So you can take them to paid platforms you need to. Yeah. They're probably not going to block over 3.99 or whatever it is a month. And now he's at least owned some of his audience versus on, you know, the podcast. You know, we are at the mercy of Apple. And at any time, Apple could say, okay, we want to now charge people to use. Dude, I know a guy who, I mean, just speaking of these social media. And this is something that you need to know if you're going to build a business. Because social media is a great, it's a new way to build business. It's a great way to reach people. And there's lots of opportunity, tremendous opportunity. The barriers to enter the market are really low. The opportunity to reach lots of people that are going to be interested in your specific product or services. So it's tremendous. However, there's one major flaw and that's that you are beholden to their algorithm. And if they decide to shut you down for whatever reason, I know somebody who was literally generating like six figures a month in revenue, Facebook changed the algorithm and it went from six figures a month to three figures a month. That's how big of a swing it made. Simply because they changed the algorithm overnight. And then you got to hustle to figure out how to fix that. I also know other people that on Instagram build their whole business and then one thing goes wrong, either it gets hacked or they get shadow banned for a second, business is gone. So the name of the game is, in my opinion, own your audience or be on lots of platforms. Although even being on lots of platforms might not protect you. I really think that's old wisdom too. It's not new to diversify. I mean, that's all you're really doing. You don't pull your eggs in one basket. Yeah, so you're just, I mean, just because YouTube or Instagram or say whatever platform you got famous on is generating 90% of your revenue. Doesn't mean you should ignore all the other potential ways for you to capture an audience. Speaking of business, Viori, right? So Viori, I've been reading articles on Viori because they are, so for people who don't know, Viori's a company we work with. They make great athleisure wear, exploding. Since we started working with them till now, I mean, how much have they grown? Oh, they're on a rocket ship. How much have they grown? 10X? More? Oh yeah, they're, I mean, they weren't, I know they weren't even in the 100 million club as a business. I know they're in the hundreds of millions now. So they're crushing. They're absolutely crushing. I love what they did too. They were a direct consumer model first, built huge audience around their lifetime guarantee on their clothes because it's so legit. And then they built a solid base. And then after that, then they started to go into Brick & Mores and they go into all Santana Rose, the Hamptons. I forgot that, Joe, about that too. If he's gotten better deals now, you know, after COVID. Oh, I'm sure with COVID. You know, to go back into retail? How smart. Oh, they grew during the whole pandemic. That's why it's so amazing is what a time to double down, right, when everybody's getting scared and losing real estate. And they're also going like, oh, we don't need to come in office anymore to be the company. And they're smart, dude. They have a very small footprint, so it doesn't take very much for them to do it. They've already built such a huge loyal base online. Like, I love that company. Yeah, so he actually mentioned us in an article. He got interviewed. Oh, really? Yeah, he did. Because Viori was really smart with podcasts early on, obviously, right? We've been working with them for a while. We were the first to work with them. Right, and a lot of companies still don't realize this. Podcasts have a very high conversion rate. It is still untapped. It's an excellent place to advertise in terms of creating authority. Depends on the podcast, of course, and getting, you know, exposure and all that stuff. So anyway, he got asked, can you speak more to the direct mail podcasts and TV efforts you're working on? And he says, you know, I don't have any many specifics, but I can tell you that with podcasts, we're doing a lot of testing, learning and investing. We found a lot of success with podcasts like Smart Less, which has been great for us. And then we've continued to work with some of our tried and true podcast partnerships like Mind Pump. So I actually mentioned us. Ah, that's cool. In this article. What article was that? This was, let's see, it's IntelliJR, excuse me, eMarketer. eMarketer.com. So they talk about it. Yeah, because when we were talking with him, I remember we were talking about, like, oh, have you been on a bunch of interviews and all this, and it was like less podcast interviews, more like, you know, Inc. Oh, yeah. You know, Fortune 500, Entrepreneur Max, Inc. Four, yeah, they've done all that in your time. I was like, oh, okay, yeah, you're on another level. Yeah, well for men's at leisure wear, is so when we did the grand opening and there were people coming in, they're like, yeah, there's no competition for men's at leisure wear, for sure. The women's stuff's also. Well, and women's line's coming up too. It's really competing with Lou Lemon. Yeah, so all right, so you guys wanna hear something hilarious? Yeah. So there's a British-born influencer. So this is an English person. It's making controversy right now. This was in Newsweek. How old? So his name is Ollie London, okay, and they are transracial. So this English, hold up. Is this the whole identify as like something that I'm, you know, like a different race? Yes, so this person. Can we do that? Is that okay? I mean, didn't that one lady get hammered for that? Who was? Yeah, I don't, so I mean, I guess, right? Cause you can identify all kinds of different things. So I mean, if that's how you feel, I don't know if it's different. Okay, so what's happening? So British-born white influencer, Ollie London, has doubled down on their assertion that they're transracial after declaring they now identify as Korean. Wow. So London, who identifies as, damn ad popped up here. Okay. Who identifies as not- A British white guy claiming that he's Korean. No, that's Korean. Interesting. Identifies as Korean. Identifies as non-binary, has faced backlash on social media over the past several days. I don't know why that just turned on. Hold on one second. Your porn hub just popped up. Yeah, no, that's not what happens. That's not what happens. That's not what happens. Oh God. That's not what happens. That's not what happens. I don't even care for more. Stop. It was a commercial. After saying on YouTube they had transitioned races and cultures after surgery to resemble their K-pop idol. So they essentially did surgery to make them look Korean. I'm sure they got to look Korean. Oh, okay, yeah. Yeah, so here, I'll show you the picture. I'll send this too. This will pop up in the video. I'm gonna send this to Andrew, the guy who edits us, but that's the kind of surgery to look Korean. I can't imagine this going well. Yeah. So how does somebody, is he born? Where's he lived? He's English, white dude. Yeah, but I mean, so does he live in England and he doesn't live in Korea? So how did he find out that he identifies as Korean? I think you see the pop star. He had Korean food and he's like, I really like this. I must be Korean actually. Wow. This is what I feel. I have no idea. How did you come out and come up with that? I have no idea. I mean, it's- I mean, I love Korean barbecue. So do I. Yeah. It's delicious. I think these K-pop fans are like very rabid, you know? Rabid. I don't even know what that is. What is K-pop? K-pop is Korean pop. Justin's heavy into that. Yeah. Yeah. It's huge. It's Korean pop. It's massive. Breonna's really in this. Is that a Gangnam style type stuff? No. It's different. I mean, I haven't really listened to myself. Yeah, I thought that was kind of the answer. Don't flip something. I'm doing the K-pop. I know you and Justin be listening to stuff all the time. I can't tell you all the details. I think it's more like boys to men type stuff. Oh. Really? Yeah. If it's anything like that horse riding exercise equipment that they have. Gangnam style. That's why I thought Gangnam style type stuff. Yeah. I don't think. Again, not an expert. All right. They have great fitness equipment in Korea. Don't worry. We always get DMs. You were telling me about a DM of the day. Oh, dude. I got to tell you. So we got, there's a new word, a phrase that apparently we can't use anymore. So we did a podcast and you got Matt, you were joking with us or something. We did something and you were like, ah, you cock suckers. Okay. Somebody sent a message to me and said that that is a homophobic slur. So you can't say it. Cock suckers? Yeah. Although, I mean, women do it too. I mean, You're just calling your friend that. That's so good. I don't know. Cock suckers homophobic. You can't say that now. Really? Yeah. So you got to say something else. So we got to think something else. Remember that whole bit? You know what, I'm flexing it out. Yeah. There's an SNL skit. It was like all like cork soaking. And so the whole joke, right? Is the cork soakers, right? Yeah. Sounds like cock suckers. And they're all just like, sorkin' corks or air. Sorkin' corks. That's hilarious. Yeah. Never fails. My favorite, though, is when you were talking about the homeless guy outside the studio. They said bum. Yeah, dude. I was like, you can't say that, bro. Yeah, this bum wanted to wash my window. I had got enough time in the day to like go back through my lexicon and go like, what is the not appropriate of this? I don't know. And say, cause it's just, it's too tough, man. I'd rather just ask for forgiveness. Just let it fly and just figure it out. You know what I mean. You know exactly what I mean. So I got something for you guys yet. So you probably, I don't know. You might have even known this already, Sal. But there's like this. Why would you know but not me? Because it's science related. Oh, what the fuck does that mean, guy? I'm just rolling you in the bush, little dude. You, you, you couldn't suck her? I said it different now. Sorry, Doug. Doug, I'm trying to be politically crack, OK? Yeah. We're going to piss him off a little more. It's science really. Dragon man. Dragon man, it's a skull they found in Asia. See, I knew you would know this. You didn't hear about this? It's huge. It's this huge skull. I don't know how many hundreds of years it's been around for a while that they found it, but it like it totally puts a wrinkle into the whole evolution of human beings alongside Homo sapien. They think it belongs to another species of human. Right. Called the Denisovians. Denisovians, yeah. Denisovians. So they were neanderthals? That super accurate carbon dating could help us out with this. I don't know how we could have made that mistake. That could just, whoa, shook up everything right there, huh? I love how, you know, when the artist goes back and has to draw what they look like. They have no fucking idea. And then the same thing with dinosaurs, they just put feathers on them all of a sudden, you know. Let's try this out. Let's put some glitter on there. Who knows? Right, she's the skin colors and stuff like that. There's like green ones, purple ones. Apparently, so we had neanderthal, which is pretty established. So neanderthals. Then we had Homo sapiens, which is us. And then we had Denisovians. And there were some others. Now, at some point, the Homo sapiens basically mated with and killed everybody else. So we definitely bane neanderthals. We dominated, yeah. Yeah, we did, because we have neanderthal diananas. But then we eradicated the neanderthals. Yeah, so we slept with them, but then we must have killed them all. And then Denisovians. We call them maneuver and we got them out of there. Yeah, Denisovians are gone, so it's just Homo sapiens. So there's all these, now here's my question as to your defense, Adam. It's a different looking skull, right? So like, this can't be a Homo sapien. What if it was a regular dude that was just fucked up? I know, because I only found one. Yeah. It's like the craziest whole species around one guy. I've seen people today that I look at them when I go, you're like, that's an interesting looking guy. If he died and we found a skull, it would be like, well, that's a different species. And the skull had like the square eye socket. Like it was in like huge furrowed brows. And it looked pretty gnarly. It's like, and how do you know that wasn't an ape, more of an ape than it was human? I don't know. Denisovians, look it up. Denisovians. Very interesting. I don't know any of that. So there you go, it's a fun fact. Speaking of DNA, one more thing, this is kind of cool. So you know those, these private services that you can do a DNA test and they'll tell you like, oh, you're this percent from this, you know, part of the concept. Which you found out they sold a lot of that data off and got in trouble for that. Oh, well, this is. If you trace back and look into that. This is really interesting, right? So lots of people do this, right? You put your DNA and you say, oh, you're related to this person or this is going on or whatever. Kind of fascinating. Well, anyway, this guy, up loaded or put in his DNA into this private. Was this the mailman guy? I don't know. Oh, okay, keep going. Okay, so he did this and gets arrested because he raped someone years ago and they, the DNA matched the DNA at the crime scene. So this guy put in his DNA for one of these private services, gets arrested for the rape of somebody. Dude. Wait a second, if it's a private service, how do you get that? How do the law get that? That's a good question, I don't know. But you got to rest it over it. So they're like, oh, thank you for your DNA. We caught you, which is kind of crazy. Crazy, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's good. I mean, it's good because of who it got, but then there's also, that doesn't make you a little nervous that you do this. Like we've done those like at home blood tests thing that you send that stuff away. And then now the, the cops DNA was in a hotel. Yeah, I was there once. Yeah. That's a little trippy. I've left DNA all over. I left DNA all over. Yeah, who knows? What are you gonna do? Oh my God, that's crazy. Hey, I hope you're enjoying this podcast. Check this out. We got free stuff that we give away all the time. We actually have free guides, everything from building muscle to burning body fat to becoming stronger, faster, sexier. We even have guides for personal trainers. You can find them all at mindpumpfree.com. So head over there right now. All right, enjoy the rest of the podcast. Our first question is from Alberto Gonzalez 8. What's an ideal split for building muscle mass? Oh, the ideal split. You know, so here's the deal. Of course there's always an individual variance, right? So the one you're not doing. So workouts that are, I'm gonna give some general answers, but of course there could be differences depending on the individual that I'm talking to. But generally speaking, this is true. Generally speaking. And if you ask strength coaches and people who train people to build muscle, a majority of them are gonna tell you that a full body three day split is probably the most effective for most people. I would say seven to eight out of 10 people. So 70 to 80% of people do better, will build more muscle, more strength, get better results, just training full body, Monday, Wednesday, Friday for most people. Other people probably do well with an upper lower split or even a push pull legs type of split. But I still like a two or three days a week of frequency per body part. I think you have to talk about why we are so pro full body though, because yes, the research and most coaches would all say that and agree, but that's just that. For me personally. Are you gonna go to the pragmatism round? Yeah, I just think that there is, one of the things that I, and it didn't, it took me a long time to piece that together and figure this out. It wasn't something as an early trainer. I trained my clients on splits just like I trained myself for most of my career. It wasn't until way later when like the light bulb went off for me. And what you find is that very few people, unless you're a, excuse me, a very competitive athlete where you're being super consistent or you're getting ready to get on stage, most people are going waves. They're consistent for a while, then they're inconsistent or they do really good one week and then one week the only the gym wants or twice. And that type of behavior, which is most people that I've been trained my entire career, they are the majority by a lot landslide by 80 plus percent. Those people do so well with a full body because they still get, they touch everything. At least if you only trained twice last week and you did full body, not a big deal. But you know where you're screwed? You did a split and you only hit back in chest. And that's all you hit. And then you had that same dilemma that everybody has is, oh, I'm starting back up again. Should I start back over or where I left off? And they're constantly playing that game. Or the other thing you see is everybody skips the things that they need to work on or the things that are challenging or that are hard, like they are. That's what I see the most, yeah. People, yeah, it's easy to avoid things you don't like to do quite as much. Whereas, you know, the full body workouts you basically have to get through the whole entire thing. And I like that it's more functional. So from a perspective of adding in multiple groups that you're working on for that workout, it resembles more of what's going on in terms of everyday life, in terms of movement, in sports specific type movement. And I know there's some emphasis there where I could really spend some time on getting hypertrophy in certain muscle groups that you're really setting yourself after. But working the total body has just as much effect. So to add to that, let's say you wanna do heavy trap bar farmer walks which are tremendous for building overall muscle and strength. All right, where do you put that in a split? Right, where do you put that? But if you're doing full body, it works just great, right? You wanna drive the sled. You wanna do a circus press. You wanna do some snatches or some cleans. Like where do you put that on a split, right? But if you're doing full body, it works just perfectly. Here's some other stuff too. When you work out, you send in a muscle building signal that's pretty specific to the group that you just trained. So in other words, if I do squats, most of the signal goes to my legs to build. But there's this kind of systemic signal that happens. And when you train your whole body, that systemic signal is much louder. You get a louder overall anabolic signal than you would if you trained half your body or a portion of your body. So this is also why it just tends to build more muscle in a lot of people. Also, I mean, you tend to do the most effective exercises, you know? If I'm doing legs on just one day, I'll probably end up throwing in leg extensions, leg curls and all those other things. And by the way, why I like talking about all these things are these aren't the things that come up when you talk about the research and studies. Like they've already done this where they've compared average people and it's superior. Yes. So for most people, so just based off of what the results are, but there's other things that you have to factor in and you know that if you've coached clients for a long time, if you've coached clients, there's so many other factors that play into someone being successful other than the routine, the split that they picked or the workout program that they're following. Yes, yes. And a lot of that has to do with consistency and normal behaviors. And I just think that when you do that, and by the way, like, does that mean I train full body? I'll say, no, I don't train full body all the time. A lot of times I do splits and I break it up and I change that up all the time. But then there's also times in my life when I know I'm struggling with consistency. There's other priorities going on right now. Remember when I first had max, I knew I was gonna be in the gym five days, seven days a week most weeks, I'd be lucky to hit it two or three times. And if I'm gonna hit it two or three times, I'm gonna do full body because I'm gonna get the best bang for my butt. I also like it for this, like if you're doing full body, you're probably doing one, maybe two exercises per body part, right? That means you're probably gonna do squats for legs. You're probably gonna do a bench press for chest. You're probably gonna do some kind of a barbell row or a deadlift. Like you are picking the best exercises because you're only doing one or two per body part. The frequency's high, right? You can perform it well too. Yes, and again, the frequency's high. You're hitting the whole body three times in a week and you can do that with a split too. So you can go up or lower, up or lower, up or lower, which will do the same thing. But requires five, six days in the gym. Exactly. So in my experience, full body for most people builds, the most muscle gets the best results long-term. Just the bottom line. Does that mean splits can't also be effective? No, they could also be greatly effective. One more thing, by the way, most strength athletes and bodybuilders train that way for years. It wasn't until the late 60s, early 70s where bodybuilders, especially with the introduction of anabolic steroids and the higher doses that they started using, you saw them doing these kind of higher volume workouts, more specific to particular body parts. But back in the day when they were using no steroids or very low steroids, or low dose steroids, I should say, full body, this is what everybody did and they got the best results doing it. The next question is from Maypunk. Should we be lifting to failure each set or should we feel like we can get more reps in with each set? How can I tell if I'm lifting the right amount of weight to make progress? Oh, man. I guess we haven't addressed this in a while. I guess it's been a while. It is, you know, when I was younger, I was under the impression that lifting the failure was essential because you knew if you went to failure, you at least passed the threshold for building muscle or sending that signal. So going to failure, you know you hit that threshold. Not only that, and I know you were reading the same articles and shit I was reading. I mean, there was a lot of stuff to support the benefits of that, to show what would happen if you ended up training to failure, the extra benefits of doing that. The problem with that, there's a lot of those that research doesn't take into account, like you're how taxing it is on your central nervous system, what you do the next day or two days. How that affects you like multiple days after this. And then yeah, and what that looks like over the course of three to five months, because what ends up happening is, and I'm sure there's lots of teenage boys that do the same thing that I did, which is read an article like that and go like, oh, training to failure gets X percent more built, more muscle because of X, Y, and Z. Okay, every session, every exercise, I'm training to failure using my buddy in a spotter and you're just fried all the time. No, the truth is I got the best results in my life with myself and my clients, almost never trained to failure. In fact, if you look at some of the best strength athletes in the world, they rarely ever train to failure. You look at Olympic athletes, even power lifters rarely go to failure except for maybe competitions. Bodybuilders tend to be the ones that go to failure more often, but even bodybuilders, even if you watch pro bodybuilders, they rarely go to failure. Lee Haney, one of the most winningest Mr. Olympia said, stimulate, don't annihilate. Okay, so these are all opinions, right, and experience. What are the study show? Studies also support this. Going to failure does not produce better results in fact, actually starts to produce less results or worse results than not going to failure. So what's the right intensity? For most people, it's stopping maybe two or three reps before failure. So here's where I see the value of going to failure. Every once in a while, it's good to go to failure so that you know what it feels like and then you know what stopping to rep short of that feels like. That's what I'll do. So I'll go to failure once every three months or six months. Now, okay, this is the intensity that failure feels like. Sort of your barometer or whatever. That's it. A gauge for you to know, okay, here's where my threshold is, but honestly, the least amount of times you're gonna expose yourself to go into failure probably the better. I use it a lot with strength athletes and athletes in general, just to kind of see if the training has been successful leading up to this point. So it's almost like you kind of build up to a point where now you're displaying your true strength and finding out, okay, like how much am I capable of with this? But there's gotta be like, there's significant time after that where they need to recover and then go back to this two reps shy of failure. The other thing that's really negative about training to failure too is it can be very detrimental to your form. So if you're like I was a kid who was always chasing that PR or always trying to put more weight on the bar and having buddy spot him. Can you remember? I know you would have a vivid memory of yourself. Oh yeah. Bits pressing like this to get the weight up and if you're doing that all the time, you're creating bad patterns, bad habits and maybe at 20 years old, it don't bother you right now but that's the type of shit that catches up when you're 30 and 40 years old. Yeah, this is mind blowing stuff that I've been teaching these kids, these high school kids is when we're going through these like compound lifts. It's like we don't wanna perform a bad rep. It's not even worth it. Like it's way better for you to master the technique and hone in on that and treat it as real practice. Every time you're doing the lift, I want you to go down and load until we do it right. So that was something that they just went what? Cause like every other coach wants to just keep loading, loading, loading, what can we do? But it's all slop. Like you said, you have somebody spotting them when they're struggling their way through it and as they're doing their compensating the whole time like shifting their weight to the side and overreaching with their arm. And you get terrible results. You develop an unbalanced physique. You increase your risk of injury. Like I'd like to redefine failure. How about this? Go until your form is about to break down. That's right. And I think that's important that you say that too because when we talk about failure like that being too short, that's like two reps short of absolute failure, but you can cut your rep and I think a better gauge is literally the minute that you can feel your forms about the DVA. Yes, cause it's a perfect place. Yes, cause most people think failure is or at least the way it's defined popularly is I can't do another rep. That's right. No, can you do, you can't do another perfect rep. With quality. Yes. If the second you feel like you can't do another perfect rep, then you stop. And incidentally that probably matches up pretty closely to two reps or three reps short of failure. Yep. Next question is from Catherine Health Journey. Can you explain how too much volume is negative for hypertrophy? Why is doing more exercises or more frequency often considered negative? Yeah, you know, your body isn't, you're not building muscle. You're not improving your physique or your performance or your strength in your workout. You really aren't. All that's doing is it's sending a signal to the body that says, we need to adapt and get better at this so that this same stress next time is no longer a stress. And so your body, what you want is your body to get stronger and you feel better. And then next time you have to add weight do a little harder workout so you can continue that process. If the stimulus is too hard and it overwhelms your body's ability to adapt all you're gonna do is heal. All you're ever gonna do is your body's ever gonna just try to heal and recover. And you get stuck in this situation where you blast your body, you get sore, soreness goes away, you go back to the gym, you repeat the cycle over and over again and you never improve. Cause your body can only focus on healing. Before your body adapts, it heals. It needs to heal before it adapts. And if you give your body too much volume or too much intensity or too much frequency, just too much in general, your body can't adapt. It's impossible. It's constantly breaking down. So the right dose will get you to the results fastest. Any more than that will get you there slowly. You always give that great analogy on the podcast and you haven't said it in a while so maybe you can share it again is when you compare it to suntanning. If you get tan, so it's more like that than something that, oh, the more I do the more results I get. Yes, yes, a tan is also an adaptation process, right? Your skin is adapting to the stress of the UV rays and it's getting darker so that it can tolerate more. Well, if you've, you know, if you can't... Exactly what happens when you stimulate with muscle. Yeah. You stimulate, the body's adapting by building more muscle to be more resilient because it knows it's going to get beat up like that. You see the same process in building a callus too with the skin. Yes. So that's one of those things. It's beneficial at a certain point because now it allows you to grip the bar, you know, without your skin getting so irritated but there's a certain threshold where if we go too hard it's going to rip off. That's right. And then we start over and we just got to heal. That's right. So the gym is important, working out is important but you go too hard or too long or do too much. Your body can't handle it. It's not going to adapt and all you're doing is breaking down and healing. Breaking down and healing. It's the, what is that? The breakdown recovery traps, like a hamster wheel. I know lots of people like this. It's like they never improve or they improve. I was this way for years. For years I trained because I subscribed to this idea of training to failure. So like every workout, it needed to be, I needed to be crushing it more than the last workout. And so, and it was like how, if I wasn't sore enough the next day, a problem with that was I was never adapting and growing. I was, you know, I was recovering sometimes and not even all the times fully recovering. So I was hammering myself so much that I didn't even, not only did I not fully recover I also didn't adapt and get stronger. Which is, and a clear indication of this, a real easy way for someone to go like, well, how do I know? Is if you're not, if you're not getting stronger ever, and if you actually see yourself decrease in strength, really common to see that where you have all of a sudden you've been consistent for two months, three months in a row and you're getting weaker one week. Oh, you're overdoing it. Oh, this is a hard conversation though to have. A lot of times because you think about the person that works so incredibly hard. And it's something that they've always done and it's worked out in every other direction. But there's a certain point where just working hard is not gonna do it. Like you really have to be smart about your approach and the body adapts and that's different than just beating the shit out of it. Yes, hard work is very valuable. But boy, you can dig a ditch with a spoon and you're gonna be working real hard. But the guy next to you with a backhoe, he's gonna get there much faster, right? So you gotta do it smart too. Next question is from Jim Gadget. What are some of the fitness gimmicks still around today that need to stop? Oh, fitness gimmicks. The scream is still popular. I can't mention that. And you know what, that's one that's been around forever. You should call it a corset. The Renaissance age or whatever. So here's one that, remember it from early on and it always cycles its way back in. These are these stim machines. Electric stims. They'll put on their abs and say, they're doing a thousand sit-ups while you're at your desk. Or now there's one that goes on your butt and there's a funny, cause they use a girl with like a nice butt or whatever and they'll put, it looks like a butterfly and they stick it on her butt and she's laying on her stomach and makes her butt twitch. Yeah, like it's like I'm doing squats for my butt. No, stim machines, there's a little bit of value to preventing muscle loss. Yeah, I see recovery. I see some value there. Yeah, but to build muscle? No, it's a waste of money. At least if you can't generate it yourself, you could devalue it immediately if you just generate that force yourself. I remember I bought one because Bruce Lee used them. So Bruce, back in, so that's how long these things have been around, right? Bruce Lee would put them on while he was writing and his chest would do the thing and he'd talk about how it's like doing a million push-ups on, well, Bruce Lee does it and I'm gonna do it. And remember, I put them on my calves cause I'm like, they're gonna grow. Anything passive though, I mean, again, that's an example of that, something where you could just sit in your chair or watch TV and you're gonna build muscles, bullshit. Anything passive is just not gonna work, you know? So that's one. I mean, we're not in the gyms anymore so it's hard, right? I mean, it's been so long since we've been in like a commercial gym to like look around and people, which is one of my favorite things to do is go in the gym and like people watch and we haven't been able to do that in a long time. But I do know that the scream thing is still a big deal. Like that's still a possibility. What about the creams? These have also been around forever. They make you sweat, therefore help you burn body fat. Oh, sweet sweat, right? That's one brand. Yeah, and that you rub them on your body and then you sweat a lot and then it's good. Well, cause there's still that association when I sweat, like I'm getting skinny, like I'm getting rid of whatever, like there might be fat that's leaking out with my sweat. Like, man, I bet you how disgusting that would be. Yeah, it's all slippery. Fat's coming off of me. That's just lard. That's disgusting. Yeah, it doesn't work like that. But it's funny because a lot of these old ones cycle themselves over and over. The stim machines, I swear to God, man, I saw the ads for them in the 1990s and I see the same damn products just packaged. You know what we should do? We should come up with the one that just shakes the shit out of your torso. Remember that? Yeah. That was hilarious. We should just do that, cause people buy it. Yeah, there's a great video of a black and white video too, so it's like. My grandma had one. Oh yeah, really? I swear. No way. Now she threw it away, I'm so mad, because I'm like, this would have been so awesome to save. Oh yeah. It's a relic, but literally it stood up on a, it was like a stand. Like a little belt that goes around you. Yes, and it's a belt, and it was attached to these two arms that would move like this, and you put around your body and you turn on, and it did, did, did, did, and it literally just shaped the shit out of you. Yeah. And apparently it had a weird byproduct, like it became a really good salsa dancer. That's the only thing that came out of it. 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