 Issues and felt like the church need to deal with that either retract that or to can I speak to how true that is? I can't I can just simply say what he said so I don't know why and why won't I do so because I just don't I don't fully know I Don't fully know and because I don't I understand what he has said But I want to have thorough understanding But it may not be for me to have understand because of that now there's a couple things that I And I've done this in the past. I have done this in the past the Bible says And so now I'm not saying the people that that haven't made a statement or point about this that this is them But this is for me for me the Bible says a fool does not delight in understanding But only in revealing his own mind and so I'm not gonna be the person that hears something. Wow, that's terrible That's horrible cut their head off and then come to find out there's more to the story now Could there be more to the story it could be could that be all it is? I don't know it may that might be it might it might be just as cut and dries it look it might be Don't know how righteous how rightfully indignant you are about something if you are not showing mercy Don't expect it. That's why you better be right. Oh, no, no, no, you better be 100% right We really expect the pastors and the church even though we don't think that they should we actually do expect them to make Yeah, and Julie Royce. She does have an axe to grind that doesn't necessarily mean that what she said was true I mean or was true or false actually if a person is going after a person because that person is in the wrong What did I say earlier? I Said you better be right You better be right That's all you better be right. You better know it all you matter of fact You might want to do as much that as you can because if you are doing so and You're wrong Who's gonna deal with you? Am I a fan of Joe, which am I a fan of Julie Royce? No, I think I think she clearly has an axe to grind Does that mean that what she says is wrong everything that she says is wrong? No, I don't think that I don't think so either But now do I think that her doctor clearly not John MacArthur is not the bad guy the boogie man the wrong guy He is not He's not and you guys I think many you all gonna miss the boat mr. Blessing because you want to you want to go this route Now if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I'm wrong for I'm wrong for showing Would you go to gray's community church if eileen gray was your daughter would I go to gray's community church? Well, it we'll see that's why you can't answer a question because that would affect me personally now. I've got some skin in the game nigga Hello everybody, welcome to the bcv channel. 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I I hope that we Are in a family where unless you have the kind of family that nobody sends Nobody has any issues with anybody nothing like that Right now interesting. We have 108 people watching 30 are in the 30 likes But a 108 are watching 14 of you have already given a thumbs down Which already shows you these are the people that are already have their minds made up So pray for those deceived and misguided people pray for them But if you love the truth and if you stand on the truth, let's get these likes up We have 110 now in the that are viewing and that are watching right now and 36 have liked it 16 have thumbed it down. Let's let's get these numbers up Let's get these numbers up. Let's go ahead and expose the lies of the enemy And let's bring the truth to bear. Let's do this. All right, so anyway Anyway, yeah, you know, that's what happens. Unfortunately people love conflict and they didn't love to hear You know the canon of the word of God taught But anyway, nonetheless It is what it is. Why not simply call Cory because he didn't call me when he made his video. That's why That's why simple I don't expect him to call me when he makes videos He shouldn't expect me to call him when I make videos in response to his public videos. See that's how that goes You see what I'm saying? So all this why don't you call this person? Yeah, I've already given I've already given my brother The link for him to come up if he wants to come up That way if he wants to elucidate and and clarify His his statements that he made in his video regarding John McArthur that he has the right to do that I given him the opportunity to do that That's not a problem Do I have to call him to talk about a Dwayne? Do I have to call him talk about Dwayne? Dwayne do I have to call him to talk about what I want to talk about of a public video Dwayne? I don't think I do. Do I Dwayne? Right So why don't you ask Cory? Did he call me before he did his video? Thank you I'm not under any obligation to call anybody If I call anybody it's because I want to not because I have to And I don't expect for him to call me. He didn't call me when he made his video And people were having concerns about what he said and disagreed with what he said It is what it is I have a right to respond to it just like you Dwayne If you want to respond to my video on your channel, you can do that. It's a free country It is what it is Let's get into this. Let's get into the to the commentary. All right Let's talk about what is I believe is a concern biblical concern Um Cory didn't contact Julie Royce to ask her does she have an axe to grind with with the MacArthur? Not to my knowledge. I mean I got Julie Royce number Last time I had her on my broadcast. I believe that question was asked And I have no reason to conclude or accuse this sister That she has uh an axe to grind with With John McArthur unless there's proof And if there's no proof then Then the accusation falls back on the individual and they need to repent Thank you, brother Toby. Thank you Public forum public addressing public response. Yeah, simple math Very simple very very simple Well, because your response deserves that your response deserves that that's why That's why what up though What up though bro cliff 313 what up though? anyway, so So moderators, you already know what time it is a facebook family. Thank you for joining Edward Denisha Amanda Jonathan Edward Freddie welcome into facebook And facebook chat get the likes up if you don't mind share the video youtube family. Thank you It's too many of you to name. You know who you are. Thank you moderators. Thank you for holding it down. Please Handle your business in the uh in the chats You already know it's gonna be some clout gonna be some clowns then they come in acting a fool You don't even need my permission handling them up do what you gotta do with them. All right Yeah, ain't that something exactly I hadn't even said anything yet Yeah, and see that's that's my point. I don't have to say anything people automatically will accuse but see I'm I'm built for this I'm built for this But they won't but they won't came up though With bible in hand and receipts, but I'm ready for I'm always ready for it I'm always ready for it You gotta be made for this You gotta be made for this So anyway Um, why am I? Sister Sheila, thank you. Welcome. My question for you, ma'am is what is it that you had to tell me that you said in in uh, Cory's chat What was it that you were trying to tell me that you said in Cory's chat? This will end When the lord wants it to end and I'm glad you asked But if y'all think that I have a personal I don't have a personal axe to grind but but but Cory said that He made a public statement and public accusation against another sister saying that she hasn't asked that Julie Royce hasn't asked to grind against John MacArthur So hopefully in this live we'll we'll find out what that axe is. I gave him the link He has he has the link. I emailed him as well. He has the information. So Um and to my knowledge he was informed That I'm doing a live. So he's he's aware of it He's aware of it and he's more than welcome to come in once I make my presentation More than welcome to come in 134 Are watching ain't that something y'all 100 134 watching 16 have not liked the video. They thumbed it down God bless them and 54 have liked it. Can we get these numbers up, please? I ain't trying to do like Kevin same as and not say anything until I get my numbers up Or do like some of these uh prosperity and money hungry Pull up your pimp preachers that don't proceed on with the service until they get their offering number up Mm-hmm No, I'm not gonna do that Show must go on. You gotta gotta got things I need to do. I'm gonna be hungry. I want to eat but nonetheless Nonetheless, yeah, yeah, I know it. Yeah. Thank you, David According to what Corey said in his live today. He said he wouldn't want to come up Okay, and he has that right But whether he changes his mind or not doesn't really affect anything. Right Exactly Corey also said in that broadcast that the people calling for accountability for j mac were either ignorant of their own sense or jealous of him Please don't tell me he said that Please don't tell me that I refuse to believe that I'm not saying you lying, Dave But I refuse to believe that my brother is going that far And doing that, please don't tell me that's what he please don't tell me that's what he said Please don't tell me that's what he said Um And if he did say that if other witnesses would have heard him say that then that is very unfortunate That is very unfortunate. It's very sad and my brother needs to repent. He needs to make that right Because unless he's a fourth member of trinity, he can't say that but what I can say is what he has said publicly in his videos And so I want to I want to address his video Biblically Biblically All right Um, so Let's get it Let's get it. Let's get it Why am I addressing this? Why am I talking about this? Well, because it's biblical And when we have an individual like john mcArthur Who has been living an unrepentant sin for 44 years That's right 44 years there has been no church discipline enacted Performed against this man none for 44 years For 44 years since 1979 41 years Since 1982 I believe 21 plus years now Since 2002 17 years And now here we are We have a recent case Of a woman being advised at grace community church. I believe earlier this year that she's supposed to go That she was told to go back to her abusive husband at grace community church That is the counsel that these people have Have been given So nonetheless nonetheless We gotta deal with this Because I know if it was an average joe like you and I if we had been living in habitual sin Refusing to repent we would have been put out of a out of a biblical church with biblical elders We would have been put out, you know, like macArthur put out eileen gray And let me just go ahead and just go it you're right into the one of the one of the statements that that Cory made and maybe my brother confused it But she was not ex she was not escorted out She was ex communicated She was formally put out of the church by john macArthur who never and I repeat never spoke to this woman Didn't even want to meet with this woman And put her out her and her children But retained the membership of david gray until he was arrested which is now he's serving time 21 years of life had his parole Denied thank god Well, unfortunately it's opening the wounds because people Are making false accusations against eileen gray And other abuse victims and people who have been advocating and supporting them like han show That's why this is going on. So let me ask you a question my sister If I knew someone were lying about you and lying about your family. Do you think I should shut up and be quiet? Do you think we should shut up be quiet when satan continues to lie when satan continues to use people To lie and destroy and discredit I'm just asking I'm just asking somebody somebody school me educate me help me understand When are we supposed to take a stand instead of always laying down? And getting ramrod it you tell me and oh by the way, let me just tell you all right now Let me put the disclaimer out right now if you're not ready for this You might as well get off the live get off my channel Do what you need to do Definitely definitely don't let the kids Listen into this don't Because this may be another raw one So you've already been told there's your disclaimer deal with it now I'm just asking when when should we ask christians? stand up Why do why do those who are the ones victimized The ones mistreated why we always got to be Getting it laying down. Why? I'm just asking why why when when can we say anything when can we Open our mouth when can we take a stand when can we defend ourselves and our character and our reputation And our name and if you say that that's not christian Then you haven't been reading your Bible You haven't have been watching this channel because I've addressed both sides of the spectrum I've addressed when there's a time to speak and when it's a time to shut up Oh By the way, that's one verse right there. Ecclesiastes chapter three verse seven We all know the familiar passage we all know the familiar text don't we? Solomon writes it's a time for everything under sun, right and then he gives us a list He gives us a list He gives us a list So far I think jenny jenny. You're okay. I think she's okay moderates unless I'm missing something I think she's just being passionate and I appreciate that so jenny to my knowledge You're cool unless I haven't seen something that you said you're good, but so welcome welcome jenny. Thank you um But verse seven Do y'all have y'all peepers On the screen What does it say? What what does it say? What does it say? It says it's a time for what it's a time to be silent Be quiet stifle shut up Muzzle your mouth don't say nothing, right? There's a time for that But that's not that's not all that that's not the only season That's not that's the only season that God says there's also a season and a time for us to open our mouth And this is the time for me on this channel. I would think 41 years 44 years 21 years 17 years 15 years 10 years five years Is enough time for people to be silent? I would think that I would think that 7th heaven I'ma send you there if you're coming over here to cause confusion I'ma send you right where you belong Keep running your mouth And i'ma have my moderators put you out Zero tolerance for disrespect on this on this channel Zero We can disagree, but you're not gonna come over here You know we get three strikes over here That's your last one Now keep talking try me So my question is is this If the bible says it's a time to be silent and a time to speak Who has the right to tell you and I when we should not speak? I'll wait I'll wait I'll wait If y'all need to phone a friend phone one if you if you need to take up take a commercial break If you need to confer with somebody take all the time you need we got two hours We got two hours give or take Who gives you the right or me the right to tell somebody when they can and cannot speak when they did the one Have been violated when they have the one that been sexually assaulted or raped or molested Or sodomized And if kept silent for decades They get solid if they become silent for decades There you go just asking Just asking Why is it the abusers always have the mic? But those who have been abused who have been mistreated those who've been violated and the very place that they should be able to go to Don't protect them So this is this is all we just shut up. They should never say anything or or if they do we don't take them serious because after all after all Like our brother Cory said in one of his in one of his clips that i'm going to play very disturbing Very disturbing. I was disturbed by what this brother said This brother said well you know It's not my daughter So therefore, you know It's different if it's my daughter i got skin in the game if somebody were to assault my daughter Brother that's your attitude don't be a pastor and i say that lovingly But i say that it's truthfully as i can if your attitude is as well as long as if ain't my child i mean Hey, don't be a pastor Don't be a leader of god's people don't Please do do do all of us a favor if that's any of your attitude if you are a man And your and your mentality and attitude as well You know, ain't my daughter. I got molested. It ain't my daughter to get raped. It's not my daughter. We got that got assaulted So I can sit next to my my I can sit next to the ass the assailant of my brother or my neighbors You know a sailing I can sit next to them Because it ain't my daughter If that's if that's your attitude Do not And I repeat do not Be a leader that's exactly what he said You want to put some money on a Dorian if I was a betting man you want to you want to put something on it? I bet you I bet you a big bag of skittles That's exactly what he said, brother. I got receipts. I don't play if I make statements. I back mines up You better ask somebody Let's get it So we see here it please ask these three seventeen. Let's look at another one Because some of us need to be educated biblically educated You're gonna get it over here You can go somebody else's channel and not be educated But you can't say when you when you come off of this channel, you weren't told the word of god. You weren't given to it You wouldn't give it it Probably chapter 31 verse 8 9 open your mouth for the mute. Oh unless it causes problems unless it causes conflict Or is it causes us to make a decision on who we're gonna watch and who we're gonna subscribe to and who we're gonna follow? Open your mouth for the mute Oh I don't know about that brother because you know it may cause conflict it may cause us to have to pick a side open your mouth for the mute For the rights of all the unfortunate Yeah, that's what it says Open your mouth speak up Don't be quiet That's what that's what that's what the that's what the writer says These are these are imperatives The new living translation says move a paraphrase speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves How clear is that? Can a baby speak for themselves? I'll wait Can a can an infant speak for themselves when they've been molested Can a five year old speak for themselves when they've been violated a six or seven year old can they speak for themselves? I'll wait I'll wait He says open your mouth For those who cannot speak for themselves Ensure justice Ensure justice For those being crushed for those being Destroyed their character their name their reputation Their livelihood Being told that they're crazy being told that they're being divisive being told that they're being they're being A liar and they're they're they're causing confusion all of that All of that My bible says open your mouth Too many of y'all are more concerned and worried about whether or not me and cori beefing My concern is what are you going to do with the beef itself? Biblically There's been beef in the bible. There's been beef among saints This ain't the first time and it won't be the last time But this ain't personal for me. This is biblical I don't take this stuff personal This is biblical My bible says speak up. That's what i'm going to do I'm going to speak up for those who can't speak for themselves I'm going to do my best to ensure justice for those being crushed for those names and characters and reputations as being destroyed Because that person got a bigger platform and a bigger and a bigger fan base or bigger support group than this person over here And so because they got 100 and some thousand followers or this person got a million some thousand followers We we know the game. We see how this goes The one who don't have the platform the one who don't have the the voice They're automatically seen as the liar They're seen as the fault finder. They're seen as the one who's just trying to trying to destroy a man of god as though Total depravity don't apply to a john macarthur. It only applies To a julie roars. It only applies to a seco kenyatta woods. It only applies to a joseph Harding it only applies to a b great me. It only applies to a sheila or it only applies to amanda or darnisha or jonathan It applies for the no name. It don't apply. It don't apply for the big name. It only applies for the no names because of no names They got the power they got the prestige. They got the platform So therefore you make any statement against a macarthur. You've automatically Have been deemed a liar Never mind hearing the facts never mind examining everything to see whether it is true as the bible says. Oh, no, no, no, no facts be damned In macarthur be praised That's what we are today ladies and gentlemen That's what we are. They say listen. We ain't even talking about charismatic like i told you before This is on our side of the isle This is on our side of the isle And some of you don't even have a clue What people like eileen gray and her family are going through some of you don't have a clue With wendy gray and their family are going through some of you only have a clue because you don't care You only care about two people Who may appear To be having a falling out instead of saying well, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute What is what is the what is the beef about quote-unquote? What is the what is the disagreement about quote-unquote? What what is this issue about what why why does quarry making a video? Why why seco making a video about what? So let me be a beryon then let me Listen to both sides and then make a decision based on the scriptures not based on personality But based on the precepts of god's word I have never let me let you look at my eyeballs. I have never ever told anybody To follow me because of who I am I'm like paul and first 20 is 11 one follow me as I follow christ and that as I follow christ means I follow as you follow me as I'm following god's word But the moment the nanosecond I veer off. That's when you supposed to say excuse me. You know what? You can let me off right here. Yeah, my my my from my cousin house right over there in my cousin house Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, you let me right here. I get off right here. I walk That's what you're supposed to do The moment somebody takes you to a different route if the narrow if the narrow road is restricted And it's straight and somebody should I make you go this way or go that way? I don't know. I'm I'm I'll tell you what I can walk I can walk That's when you know So I'm waiting for anybody to tell me that I've ever told them to do something that goes outside of god's word ever Am I perfect? Nope Nope. Nope. Nope never said that but what I'm saying to you is this You examine everything you examine what I say and and listen You know a true teacher when they say hey Check what I say with the scriptures and if I'm wrong we can have a conversation about it We can always come up or you can call me or whatever whatever if I listen and if I say it publicly it is fair game It's fair game There's like fair use even though youtube don't always honor fair use practices But if it's out here, it's out here And you have the right and I have the right to respond to it to react to it to comment to it and some things I don't comment on Because I don't I don't need to adopt more of my time But you don't follow me because my name is saco because oh man, it's the bcb channel No, no you follow this channel or you support channels like this as long as they are following the word of god Period point blank full stop But the moment start people start getting in they feels and the moment people start acting as though they can't be told anything When they're wrong about something then it's time for you to dip or I'll tell you what then it's time for you to make a decision How about that How about that? 78 likes 78 likes 178 and that are watching ain't that something? Ain't that something? Some of him some of some of these people are here for another reason. I don't know it, but god knows it, but it's odd You know when the numbers as high as something popping off But let's let's these numbers match. We got 80 80 likes 177 watching. Let's get the numbers up Let's get the numbers up. He says verse 9 open your mouth Judge righteously don't just make a judgment make a righteous judgment And defend the rights of the afflicted and the needy Defend the rights of the afflicted and the needy How how afflicted is somebody? Who you trust and that trust you and you take advantage of them? And you've destroyed them And the very place that they are supposed to go to for safety. They can't They can't Thank you for the super chat back to 702. Thank you And brother, I'm my apology. I missed your call other day has been very busy I'll try to get back to you as soon as I can but thank you for the super chat Um Yeah, I I agree. Sheila if you can't take this I would I would strongly advise you to not watch this this content and just tell me I've already put the disclaimer out for everybody But I gotta do what god has called me to do I'm gonna do what god has called me to do If you can't deal with this it's time for you all it's time for some of y'all to go ahead and and and leave And I say that respectfully First Corinthians 11 19 It's interesting when we when we read these texts We don't like the application of it when it's in our front in our front yard or in our back door first Corinthians chapter 11 verse 19 For there must be factions among you Why pa? So that those who are approved May become evident among you new living translation says But of course there must be divisions among you So that you Have god's approval will be recognized Both of us can't be right about the same thing if we're arguing about it and I'm not talking about perspective. We're talking about sin That's what we're talking about. We're talking about sin Sin A violation of god's moral law has been broken A fellow image bearer Has been sinned against And has been being sinned against and there has been a pattern of abuse and sexual assault and domestic violence at grace community church not for a year Or a couple of years but for decades And these are just the ones that have emerged these are just the ones that we have found out to be true well Let me back up Because I can't say that it's true because if I say that it's true. I haven't heard the other side Well, the other side don't want to be the other side don't want to don't want to talk So now what? What do you do when the other side refuses to respond? Although the other side had no problem doing a sermon in a 2004 shepherd's conference general session number two Title christian loyalty and he said that is The evangelical pope himself That there are times when you must speak up to defend Your name for the sake of the gospel. Well, john macArthur sir. I think that is that time now Don't take my word for it go to the 2004 I think I may have said 2003 but 2004 shepherd's conference general session number two You can look it up you can pull it up And that man himself said it And it's titled christian loyalty and I've all I posted the link before and I even played the soundbites to it In other lives And this man gave the context that john macArthur He gave the context of why paul had to speak up and defend his character Against false teachers and those who were questioning and and and calling his apostleship fake And the Corinthian church was now siding and now being swayed to the false teachers and MacArthur had said paul had to speak up. Well Don't you think That the gospel is at stake for john macArthur when he refuses to speak up You see my bible says the wicked fleet when no one pursues but the righteous the boat is lying If you have nothing to hide, there's no reason to run Someone accuses me of something and it's a serious offense. You better believe i'm gonna speak up Just like I would speak up if I was in a courtroom in a criminal court Somebody accused me of murder. Oh, I'm just gonna pray let God. No, you're not stop. He's somebody. I need to stop the lie If you are up for double double murder and your life will be taken I guarantee you most of y'all be open to be up your mouth been opened your mouth Y'all are so consistently inconsistent and sickening to me Well, I'm about to I'm about to provide the receipts sister nicky I'm about to I'm about to provide the receipts Because you don't make false accusations against people unless you have unless you have evidence That's how it's in That's how it's in If I say Something about another individual And it's a and it's a character assassination or I'm Accusing somebody of a moral issue and I don't have proof that is a false accusation I'm doing the enemy's work If Satan is the accuser of the brethren and then I'm making false accusations, then what does that make me? We better stop caping for folk And making excuses instead of making confessions But here's my question Because I know Cory is watching this if you're not he's gonna watch it Why am I doing this response? Yeah, we y'all really want to know why I'm doing this response I'm not doing this response for me I'm not doing this response for me. I'm doing this response for people like Julie Royce I'm doing this response for people like Han Cho and others Who have put their livelihood and their lives on the line For those who have been abused And don't have a voice and are still reeling and healing from Trauma that's who I am Speaking for I know people talk about me. I don't care We can always came up if I think it's important But people always want to talk about you. I don't care about that What I care about is why is it why is it that Cory can make a video But then he discourages me From making videos about John McArthur Make that make sense brother two weeks ago two weeks ago Cory and I had a conversation and we would like we always do and Whenever we talk and I was I was telling him, you know, what I had, you know going on and what I was cooking up for his content And I told I said, yeah, man, I'm about to, you know, do this video on on John McArthur And your words to me Cory was Man, I'm telling you man, so I wouldn't I wouldn't be doing all that I said and I and I asked him I said why I said, what's the problem? Man, that's not gonna help you channel grow Those are your words Cory. That's not gonna help you channel grow man. If you if you do that Brother, I don't care About growth when the truth is at stake I'm kidding nothing about that Sister naked. Can you hold on to that thought man? Because I don't make it. I don't make accusations Unless I have the facts if I got accurate facts, then that's when I make my accusations And some of y'all are still new in the faith So I would really I really think y'all some of y'all need to just hold off on your thoughts And don't come in because you're trying to look at some type of battle royal situation sit back Listen to the information And examine it with the scriptures Get out of your feelings mainly you females I understand it because if there's men in their feelings Then you then you're gonna be sus to me But women I understand that but at the same time you get the Holy Spirit Ask for the spirit of God to give you the spirit of self-control Because let's just be honest Y'all don't know me and y'all don't know Cory minor either You only know us by social media. This is social media ladies and gentlemen And some of you have talked to me more than you ever talked to Cory minor But you don't really know us You only know what we present So please Get out of y'all feelings relax Take a breathe take a breather Look at the information And only the information period And if i'm lying and if i'm misrepresenting prove me wrong But you're gonna have a hard time You have a hard time proving somebody wrong with receipts in context, of course But where was Eileen graze due process? See see this is why i'm telling some of y'all some of y'all slips are showing Some of y'all slips are really showing Because the same man that y'all are defending didn't defend a woman who needed to be defended From a predator and a pedophile And a wife beater Where was her due process? Where was her due process ladies and gentlemen those of you caping for macarthur Those of you saying that macarthur is not disqualified those of you who are saying that macarthur is not a bad it's not a bad guy Tell that to the families who had been abused by this man by protecting pedophiles Tell them that Because again It's easy for y'all never to say ouch when nobody stepped on your foot Or punched you in your face It's easy for you not to not to feel anything. It's easy Because that shows me where your compassion is or the lack of it Some of y'all are living vicariously through people that you don't even know Instead of looking at the facts And saying well wait a minute This woman was put out of a church because she didn't go back to her abuser and macarthur still refuses to repent And then it's not this is not the only situation Then we have one 44 years ago that he still Hasn't made right and he wrote a letter Telling them telling the little girl who was sexually assaulted and raped and molested That's your father is a good man the the rapist is a good man And then you tell her That you have no intention of taking him off staff That he will continue to be on staff Yeah, yeah, some of y'all I listen I I I am amazed At the at the lack of logic That some of you Are positing right now Yes, he was on staff. Look at the letter John mcArthur wrote a letter to this little girl But y'all appear caping for this dude Man listen, let me let me let me let me get to these clips Because all I'm saying is Cory brother You tried to discourage me From making more videos about john mcArthur whenever necessary But then you turn around days later and pull a video And you drop one Make that make sense Matter of fact, matter of fact, those of you those of you that that, you know That are acting like oh, I'm just I'm you know, oh brother saco. He's he's yeah, I am 200 and listen 200 y'all 200 watching 95 liking it. Look what? What? Yeah, some of y'all coming for conflict and controversy This is listen sometimes controversy is necessary when the truth is at stake and this is what I'm dealing with I'm dealing with the truth of the issue right now I don't do conflict and controversy videos for the sake of numbers I do it when the truth is at stake. That's why I quoted to you all first second current I mean first Corinthians 11 19 there must be conflicts. There must be factions. There must be divisions among us so that those of us So that those of you who see this conflict. No, okay. Yeah, this is what the good word of God said I gotta I gotta I gotta ride with this dude. I may not like him. I may not like his attitude I may like his color But is he it's what he's saying true is what she's saying true Last time I checked the court the criteria is whatever is true whatever is right Whatever is pure whatever is of good report whatever is holy whatever Of any excellent and worthy praise were to think on these things Test all things whole fast to that which is true. That's what I thought the criteria was I didn't think the criteria was based on a person's You know subscription base or based on a person whether or not how soft and how nice they sound Or the complex number of persons skin How well their lighting is I didn't think that was a criteria the criteria I thought if they're giving the truth and they're spitting that truth. That's who you support. That's who you follow That's what I thought but silly me But Cory my brother you tried to discourage me From making videos About john McArthur About john McArthur Sister nicky. Let me ask you this question and i'ma move on because you're still talking about this So let me just go ahead and address you. Let me address you. Do you have scripture? To support that point that you just made Do you have scripture to support your point that you just made? Uh made in america depends on what kind of speech it is Moderators I trust that you all are not Deleting and censoring anybody because you disagree with them. That's not why I made you moderators If it's disrespectful, yes You can mute them. You can time them out. You can even remove them if they're persisting But if somebody's just making a disagreement a disagreeable statement, I don't I don't want them to be Treated as though we're liberals in here. All right We can we can have feisty discussion and debate As long as it's not disrespectful. We good Okay So now that that settled let me get back to my sister okay, so I have scripture from my point sister I have scripture from my point And this is why I'm saying my brother dropped the ball. This is why I said my brother is making false accusations And I'm going to prove it and my brother needs to make this right. He needs to repent as well as well as well If I say to you let me let me put it this way if I put out a post or make a video and I said I believe nick w has an axe to grind against me and my wife What did I just do Let me let me pose that question again Let me pose that question again If I made a public statement about sister nicky w right sister nick w right if I made a public statement an accusation about my sister I said I believe Not only that I believe That she has an axe to grind. Oh, yeah. I oh, yeah It's clear that she has an axe to grind against me and my wife and I provide no evidence What is that class? What is that? Talk to me Thank you, david a false accusation It's a false accusation if I don't present the facts About an individual and I say this individual Has an axe to grind with me This individual Has an axe to grind against this other and whoever it may be and I make this public And I provide no evidence That's a false accusation I don't care who you are Let me get to this point. Thank you. Thank you, Amanda. Yeah, keep it keep it above slander Yep, it's slander You're misrepresenting somebody's name in character. No, no, no, this is all love. It's all love I'm just all of us want me sure to be clear about what I'm what I'm saying here. That's all now My question is Why is it? Why is it okay for Cory for you to do it? But you want to discourage me From doing it and I know I got more information about it than you do and it's not that it's not that I'm getting it privately The same information I got you can get it Cory So why would you discourage or try and attempt to discourage me? From sounding the alarm for for for exposing McArthur for protecting those who have been abused Thank you for the super chat to get to quit Thank you. Why would why would you discourage me? Or attempt to discourage me From presenting information Regarding John McArthur, but then you turn right around and you do it. Why is it okay for you? But it's not okay for me. Why is it wrong for me, but it's okay for you But when other people do it Y'all say nothing Yeah Why is it okay for for he but not for me? I got 28 thumbs down like not like I'm gonna lose any sleep But I'm pretty sure It's safe not to talk about The evangelical pope the mighty mighty McArthur. It's it's safe It gets your numbers up when you don't talk about those things that people don't want you to address It keeps your revenue consistent it keeps your revenue popping It keeps it up Just as long as you don't open your mouth about our idols Just as long as you don't say anything about our god we good. Well, you got the wrong one. I ain't that dude I'm not that dude I don't know how many videos he's made bro. I don't even know my pup. I don't know. I do not know 103 liking it 202 watching 103 liking in the video 202 watching And 29 have thumbed it down. Can y'all tell me why people are not liking the video and I haven't really even said a word Tell me tell me Jesus love you say why are certain comments that are not disrespectful being deleted? I don't know. Tell me which ones they are and tell me who's doing it Because if any if any moderator is deleting comments because you just don't like it Now because it's being disrespectful you but you don't like it. I'm gonna take you off as being a moderator We're not doing that here We're not doing that here That's not why you've been that's not why I've been trusting you to be a moderator Whoever it is if that's true Like my wife said other mods leave comments if not disrespectful If they're not disrespectful leave them alone Yeah, I'm not doing it. I won't be doing it on this one. I'm not gonna do it on this one sis I'm not gonna do it on this one If y'all if y'all want to know about the transcripts you're gonna have to go to the to the video that I did Last week It's John McArthur A christian You have to go to that one. I'm not I'm not going to go through this one Tonight and thank you sis for even uh mentioning mentioning that again, but I'm not I have no intentions on even doing that tonight Uh, but I do plan on Being open and honest and being straight up with with people regarding Their attitude With people Like Julie Royce Some of y'all are attacking this woman and she's an investigative journalist her job Is to investigate that's her job But since y'all but since it's your idol. It's your god. You don't like it. But but let's let's let's get on Let's get on because I've already I've already recognized the spirit behind a lot of this stuff um so anyway Cory you had made a comment and You had said and made a comment about pastors. That's what you said a true pastor A true pastor Doesn't get into the debates Why well because he's got a lot to do there's a reason why a person like John McArthur You don't see him having debates. There's a reason why a person like a tony evans There's a these pastors that we see whether you like them or not True pastors. They don't have time to go out and debate and answer questions now if they have a conference That's different. It's their own thing But having a debate this person calls him out. They they Which by the way, if you have a pastor and he's responding To call outs and clap backs You probably don't have a pastor. You probably have a social media influencer more than you do a pastor You sure about that, Cory? So let me ask you this question, brother. Are you a pastor? Have you been a pastor? What is your pastor all experience bro How do you know that? How do you know that? and since when did it become sin for pastors to respond to public Statements of accusation or as your words were clap backs. Where's the freedom of these people and I'll just say myself I'll just say myself I'll just say myself if Someone makes statements or someone puts information out Do not I mean does not that person have a right to respond if they choose to respond and and and you can't Please don't use John MacArthur because John MacArthur has made it clear that he doesn't not use the internet. That's what he said So he has people covering and caping for him. He has to feel johnson's covering and caping for him He has to dare Bernard Harrison is covering and caping for him He has the josh boys covering and caping for him He has the Justin Peters covering and caping for him. So no, he doesn't have to respond He has his he has his his attack dogs do that for him So there's no need for him to respond when you got when you got people flanking you and protecting you Why would he why would he have to respond? Yeah, I mean, I mean, that's that's logical David Then why does Corey keep trying to nudge Pagani to come back on his channel Pagani is a pastor, right? Whether we whether we believe he's a biblical one or not. He's still a pastor He's still a pastor So that's my question. You said a true pastor doesn't get into debates Well, brother, I know you you should know the word I know you should know the word enough to know that that dog don't hunt That dog don't hunt biblically I asked you out to 15 verse 1 through 12. Let's see if there were any debates occurring in the first century. Shall we? Shall we because our brother said that a true pastor don't don't get into debates Well, let's see. Let's see if there's any biblical precedent to support our brother's point Let's see Good last time I checked Paul defended his ministry Jesus defended his ministry The apostles defended theirs Even their name. How am I putting words in Corey's mouth if I just read? I mean if I just posted the video, ma'am, are you serious? How am I putting words? You're putting words on Corey's mouth. How am I putting words in Corey's mouth? Please tell me This video is not it's not doctored It's not been stripped and read and read Reformatted it has not so how am I putting words in his mouth? Just asking You said he was in sin. You said he was you said he said it was sin and he I'm saying he said he is not a pastor. He said true pastor. So the opposite of that man would be what? If you find pastors getting in debates that I mean, they're not a true pastor, right? That means they're a false one That's the only logical conclusion that he would have ma'am That's the only logical conclusion that we would have but thank you for your comment so A true pastor does get into debates Ask 15 verse 1 through 12 some men came down from Judea and began teaching the brethren Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses. You cannot be saved Verse 2 and when Paul and Barnabas had great dissension. Oh, there's that d-word. Oh my goodness. They had what? Debate Had great dissension Not just in the little matter and great dissension in debate The brethren determined that Paul and Barnabas and some others of them should go up to Jerusalem to the apostles and elders Concerning this issue. That's what happened. So we go down to verse. Let's just skip one down verse Matter of fact, no right here Verse 5 some of the sect of the Pharisees who had believed stood up saying it is necessary to circumcise them and direct them To to observe the law of Moses the apostles and the elders came together to look into this matter verse 7 after there had been Look at these superlatives much debate Yeah, much debate See, they didn't have social media in the first century ladies and gentlemen. So this this was no just no one day thing When they had much debate Peter stood up and said to them brethren, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you that by my mouth the Gentiles would hear the word of the of the gospel and believe And God who knows the heart testified to them giving them the holy spirit Just as he also did to us and he made no distinction between us and them cleansing their hearts by faith Now, therefore, why do you put God to the test by placing upon the neck of the disciples? Notice what he calls them the disciples A yoke with neither Which neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear The point I'm making ladies and gentlemen is they had much debate much debate We see it on to it on two Two separate instances verse two and verse seven Verse two and verse seven So if true pastors don't get into debate, then what do we say about these apostles? Matter of fact, let's go to another one Jew three Beloved while I was making every effort to write to you about our common salvation I felt the necessity to write you to appeal and to appealing to you Appealing that you rather contend earnestly for the faith Contend earnestly for the faith That would imply what? Possible debate concerning issues of salvation concerning issues of the gospel concerning issues that could cause someone's name And and reputation for the gospel to be slander Just saying We find several instances Several instances where this could be the case several But that's not the only thing you said You was also talking about the level of scandal that John MacArthur has been in Is less compared to others last time I checked but they weren't supposed to do that That's what I thought that pastor Is going to have to give an account for what is happening in that church Is he at fault for all of that that's going on, but if something is rampant then we've got a problem If something is rampant then we have a problem With macArthur and we'll deal with one of the issues that I know people want to talk about But in over 50 years Spread out It seems like it seems like that the level of scandal Is less at least compared to most other pastors over 50 years And my question to you brother is where you getting your information from? Where are you getting your information from? For you to make that assessment for you may affect for you to draw that conclusion Because I would ask you Have you read julie roy's? Articles have you read Any of her investigative work? I'm talking about read it. I'm not talking about You Glossing over it Just asking and if you haven't read hers If you if you haven't read hers Then have you read brent dead wireless? Have you read his? Thank you for the super chair brother. Thank you. Have you read brett dead wireless? Have you read his? Have you read page rogers work? All three of the people that I've mentioned to you are reliable sources You don't have to like them brother. You don't have to agree with them But what you cannot say Without proof or evidence That julie roy's or others haven't asked to grind with someone unless you have proof Where's the evidence If your channel is called smart christians channel, then that presupposes that it takes some intelligence It takes some wisdom it takes some skill and discernment to say hey, this person said this This person said this what does the bible say? And brother, I know you challenge people to think But why is it in this situation and in this in this instance? You you've just turned your brain off Because for the life of me, I don't know why would you make this video? Why why would you make a video and not even have all the information? Not even have the facts not even have the the substantial evidence And make the claim based on the information and only The information That's that's that is a logical question But for you to say that hey this man's ministry, you know, hey, yes, let's kind of compare to others We don't we don't compare other ministries to other ministry when we come to sin and scandals. We don't do that We don't do that Why we don't do that because the scriptures tell us not to do that. That's why second Corinthians chapter 12 Excuse me. Let's get chapter 10 verse 12 For we're not bold to class or compare ourselves With some of those who commend themselves. We don't we don't do that. I appreciate your brother. Thank you We don't we don't compare our ministries to other people Especially when it comes to sin, Cory But it also it shows me that you haven't done your research. You haven't done your homework You haven't done your due diligence regarding MacArthur because if you did Or if you have been watching my channel and I know you haven't been watching it much Probably because you've been busy or whatever the case might be but that's fine But my point is if you have You couldn't say with a straight face that this man has less scandals or or or He's still qualified You couldn't say that with a straight face biblically. You could not say that with a straight face Because MacArthur is not qualified to be a pastor anymore He should have been he should have been forced to step down offer the first instance of abuse that he didn't deal with that he that he Shurped and tried to cover But because people are more afraid of him than they are of God. This is what happens And then when we defend it or make excuses for it Then it makes us no different than the ones who have been occurring the abuse and the abusers and protecting them makes us no different No different But you gave Scripture regarding qualifications For pastors and I agree with you I I agree with you 100% bro 100% when you said this let's just see is he qualified Let's see is because this isn't your qualified day one And then going into the year two. You don't have to worry about it. You've already overcome that barrier that hurdle 10 years later, you don't have to worry about being qualified. No, this is what you have to be at all times Now You said that Cory. I agree with you It didn't just one time. He he he meets the qualifications is then 40 50 years later He's not qualified anymore, but we keep him on on board because his name is John McArthur, right? So if that's the case then why are you saying this man is still qualified? Well, I'll tell you why in a minute because he made it clear on why he has been caping for John McArthur And I say that with evidence. I don't say that without the facts. I'm making his I'm using his own words his own words When you can cover and cape for pedophiles and abusers not saying Cory I'm talking about McArthur when McArthur can can cover for pedophiles and abusers And he's still qualified and you now Cory is saying that you don't see why how he can how he is disqualified You don't believe he's disqualified. Then what does that say about your discernment? What does that say about your discernment, bro? What does that say? first AT. Thank you, brother. Thank you Thank you Yeah, you said I would expect him to say this a year ago when it when the info was new and fuzz, but not now. Yeah Or not say anything at all Not say anything at all Um First Peter chapter five. Let's look because listen y'all The qualification for passage is not just first Timothy 3 1 through 7 It's not just a Titus chapter 1 verses 5 through 9. It's also first Peter chapter 5 Versus 1 through 5 Therefore I exhort the elders among you as your fellow elder as your fellow elder Notice and and witness of the sufferings of christ And a partaker also the glory that is to be revealed notice shepherd the flock of god among you exercising oversight not under compulsion Not voluntarily But according to the will of god and not for sordid gain of money But with eagerness here is verse 3 verse 3 Not yet as lording it over those a lot of to your charge in other words You don't bully people because you're the pastor. You don't use fear fear and in scare tactics. Oh by the way Cory, did you read the wasp report? The wasp report is not even tied to grace community church. It's not tied to the masses seminaries not tied to the masses university Why would they come back with their findings say that there's a culture? Of intimidation fear bullying and fear of people's livelihood Being taken because they speak out Against unfair practices. Why would they say that? It is that it thank you kneeling. It sure is not my intention to take to take Cory down Thank you for saying that Dave. That is not my intention, sir My intention is to is to publicly disagree with my brother That's my intention and to show publicly that my brother is wrong in his assessment regarding another sister So they would know my my intention is not to bring him down. No, that's the wrong spirit And that is not the nature of this channel contrary to what some people think or believe about me So thank you kneeling. I appreciate that so MacArthur has been accused and has been proven He's a bully Cory do you recall and i'm just asking If you didn't it wouldn't surprise me And I don't say that to be insulting. I said to be factual because I know you haven't done your homework MacArthur went on record at the chapel Meeting he was recorded because you have people there that knew that he was going to bully and use his weight and that's exactly what he did He went on record saying that he knew that he was wrong for Uh continuing to practice some of these things that he was in violation with in violation of and he said But I did it anyway That's on record. Look up the chapel recording Look it up. You can go to brint debt waller In fact, let me just let me put the screen share up here for just a second This is the website you can go to ladies and gentlemen That way you can see with your own eyeballs Uh brent dead waller here we go That's the link right there. You see that that that email me that uh website Brent Not brett, but brent dead waller Dot com this man knows is this this man has been doing investigative journalism and work for decades since sovereign grace and then some So when I call him a liar Say he hasn't asked the grind. I know you haven't done your work, bro I know you haven't done your work You haven't done your work doc You just haven't It's unfortunate It's unfortunate We gotta do better than this Stop caping for people because We just liked them because they gave us study bibles in prison. They ain't the standard, bro That's not the standard Here's what else you said regarding eileen gray one of the issues and I I covered it I covered it the issue that Uh, the lady julie royes reported on about this lady eileen gray Eileen gray was uh escorted out of the church Because she would not get back with her husband She was not escorted out of the church, bro She was ex-communicator and this is this is for the record. I spoke with eileen gray today And so I have her permission to share this this one statement Because I called and asked her the question I asked her this I said Do you believe there's a difference between being escorted out of church out of a church versus being ex-communicated from a church? She said absolutely Absolutely She says I was not escorted out of grace community church. I was ex-communicated And she was ex-communicated unbiblically Cory The woman never had her due process Matthew 18 was not biblically applied to her MacArthur never met the woman never talked to the woman and even when the woman tried to talk to him He refused to talk to her She has the receipts And presented some of them in julie royes's report that you For some reason Haven't read Why? It's right there for anybody to see So no, sir She was not escorted from the premises She was ex-communicated unbiblically and for some of you fools to fix your mouth and say Huh Where every church has their own standard of discipline. Wait a minute Wait a minute since when is the church The authority over the scriptures I thought the scriptures Is the authority over the church Because christ is the one the word incarnate Who died for the church not john mcgrother I thought jesus did and I thought last of my check. I thought matthew 18 15 to 17 Was pretty perspicuous Pretty clear Step one person is confronted Step two if they don't listen you bring two or three Step three take them to the church If they don't listen to the church, they're out Step four treat him like a gentile and attached collector. They didn't follow Biblical protocol cori You're gonna tell me that this man don't know the steps and processes of matthew 18 The mighty mighty john mcgrother himself Please i'm just tripping right now that No, eileen would never come on this show and neither would I want her to come on this show Why would I I would never want eileen gray to come on my broad gas never Some of y'all don't understand what these people have gone through And y'all and i pray to god that some of you don't because you wouldn't know how to deal with that as it is right now You can't even handle you can't even handle what you what you've been hearing Thank you for the super chat david. Thank you. I'm just asking i'm Y'all are acting as though john mcgrother Can do no wrong a matter of fact I know that's the case for some of you for not most of you because you keep making excuses for them Yeah, they're ignorant Yeah, they're ignorant And not because they don't agree with me because they don't agree with scripture Who you tell you say she ignorant prior to because she don't agree who who who's I'll do some of me. Excuse me. I'm sorry um Because I know I call I know I said people are being we're being fools So My apologies for that. You weren't talking to me. You're talking to even you and probably were talking But yeah, anybody anybody that is wanting eileen gray to come on For what why? But if anybody is making making light of terse discipline against a woman. Yeah, you are straight up fool straight up fool Who's putting Because moderators listen Who's putting people out For disagreeing. I want to know who that is right now Who's doing that? And what is the disagreement is the question? Who's putting people out for disagreeing and what's the disagreement? Let's settle this right now Let's settle this right now First drag you can go to my uh my website. I mean you can go to the the uh the description in the video Go to the description in the video And you can uh find the finding information there. Thank you. Appreciate it. Uh, let's see moderators, I need you all to handle your business, but but don't um Don't be putting anybody out to disagreeing that that's that's not how we do this Ariana you're saying what You said prior to 1711 did what did he put you out for? What did he put you in time out for? What did you say? And I know you've been I know you've been making false accusations against me So maybe he had put you out for that, but So what is it that you said? Because you've been making false accusations since you came in to chat against me So I need to know what that is Anyway, but let's me um Let's move on Let's move on No, I'm making sure progress. I don't I'm not I don't know what's going on in the chat So other moderators y'all can y'all can monitor that as well too so I can get to this get to my uh Get to get to the business at hand here. All right, so Be as long as nobody's being put out and put in time out for you know, uh Just disagree we good, but if they're being disrespectful. Yeah, y'all handle your business Y'all know how I move with that. I don't have no apology make on that at all So let's let's keep it going. So now um She was not She was not escorted out of the church, Cory And maybe that that was a fruity and slip on your end. I don't know but I know you have not done all your research I know you haven't And and this is why my concern for you is what you made this video for what You don't have all the information the information is available, but for whatever reason you haven't been you haven't You haven't presented it. Yeah, you've done a video saying McArthur was wrong. That's it He's not only wrong. He's disqualified Cory But you but you won't say that you you say he's he's still qualified. How? but then your logic Starts to unravel When people start asking you questions on your video and it's just disappointing to watch because I'm saying bro You shouldn't know better than this You should know better than this In one of these statements, I think personally I think that the church missed a golden opportunity What's the golden opportunity that they missed? They put a woman out of the church. They they refuse to apologize if you refuse to ask for forgiveness They refuse to reinstate this woman's name and good standing with the church, but yet David Gray The one that is serving 21 years to life Is in prison And he's able to come back to the church Because he has not been excommunicated He can come back right now if if he was on parole and go back to grace community church Probably from an optic standpoint. They wouldn't but He's not under church discipline This is not this is not just A missed opportunity brother This was malicious This is gross Negligence this is sin and this is wrong and this is a cover up Why you don't see this? People can say it's a blind spot try and call it call it what you want I just know It's interesting what we could want to call blind spots when and it's not happening to us when we want to try To cover make excuses for other people This is this is Worse than a blind spot Why am I saying this because Because to who much is given much is required We're not dealing with novices here ladies and gentlemen. We're dealing with men Who have been in ministry longer than you and I have probably been born And have been educated went to seminary and all of that And y'all are making excuses, but you wouldn't do this if this was a cop You wouldn't do this If a person in law enforcement Had accidentally shot somebody Why you already know why and I understand why because they've been trained. Hello. They've been trained Yeah, they're human true But the responsibility Is greater for those who have more authority. That's what Jesus said Why is it different for those in the pastorate? Or why is it different for those who are like John MacArthur? That's what I want to know That that's what I want to know Christine you said I'm all for free speech, but you know when you are about to be disrespectful. Can we be rid? Yeah, absolutely. In fact, they there and they know And and christina, you know, I trust y'all judgment. Anyway, so yeah So anybody coming in here with that fool is just Bouncing simple as that Because we we've never had this many numbers in here Until this kind of stuff pops off 206 are watching 107 Are liking it Let's get the numbers up Let's get the numbers up That's that's uh, oh, so yeah, so excuse me This was more than a missed opportunity core. I couldn't believe That you said that I can believe you said it if you weren't informed But it's not that you don't have the information Which is why I'm asking you why did you make this video with The lack of information, but you have all these followers Listening to your every word and then you have the mob have some of the members of the mob Agreeing with you. You even have people like verge walker coming into the chat agreeing with you thanking you I just find the timing to be rather rather interesting to say the least but Here's the here's one of the issues that I have with you brother This one we really expect the pastors and the church even though we don't think that they should we actually do expect them to make Yeah, and julie royce. She does have an axe to grind. That doesn't necessarily mean that what she said was true I mean or was true or false actually How do you know that cori? How do you know that what's what's the axe that she has to grind what was I watched the video. You didn't present the the axe that she has to grind. What is it? What's the axe that that julie royce has to grind against jama god? What? what Biblically, what's what's that? What's the accusation that you have against this woman? That you are saying That she has an axe to grind. So here's my question cori and those who are defending cori and others Here's here's my question. Did y'all say that when she Exposed mark drisco Hmm Cori, where were you when when she exposed mark drisco? Were you in prison or were you still were you just getting out? When she exposed mark drisco, where were you at? Did she have an axe to grind against him then when she exposed james mcdonald from walking the word in chicago? Did you have an axe to grind with her then? any of y'all I've been following julie royce for years When she was on moody radio And I heard now one of y'all make a peep When she was exposing and doing investigative journalism against mark drisco james mcdonald robbie zacharias boy When the mighty mighty macarthur Was on the slab Now she Has an axe to grind All of a sudden All of a sudden now there's now there's somebody that has an axe to grind why? I just I just find it rather interesting She's been she is she is a professional Investigative journalist that is her job and y'all are saying that she has an axe to grind Okay All right. Yeah. Yeah puny The only reason I've heard people say that is because of her so-called political leanings which have been missed Sure has because she's not a liberal. She's conservative She's conservative So now what so now what I'm just I'm just I just find it curious kory. Where were you? Where were you when she was putting all this investigative work out and when she I mean bruh She had death threats against her For going at james mcdonald and what he was doing In his ministry I didn't hear a word from you. I didn't hear a word from none of y'all Not one word Nobody accused her of having an axe to grind with them Wrong. She does not believe in female pastors That's another lie. She does not support female pastors at all Get your facts straight But kory If you can answer that question I would appreciate it What was that same energy? for her when she was going After these people who were abusing god's flock and reporting on on them. I just don't see the I don't see the consistency I don't the devil is going to have accusations against every last one of us The devil is going to have an accusation against me And against you and all the friends that you know so I'm just asking are you where you can were you comparing julie royers with the devil? Because this was in the same context I just I just cut the clip and have This was in the same context Were you comparing julie royers? To the devil bro. I'm just asking Because there's nothing that she has said about john macArthur that has not been proven Nothing We can disagree regarding covid we can disagree regarding whether the church should have been open or closed Those were in-house issues But she didn't lie on demand She reported what the man was doing Inconsistently of course in some things That he was doing but she never lied on the man and nobody can prove that she's lying Saying a person is lying and not proving it. It doesn't make it doesn't make what you said is it's true it doesn't so Hopefully you're not comparing julie royers to the devil And and acting like as though she's the enemy because she's not matter of fact paul says have I become your enemy because I take the truth She's speaking the truth That's regulations 416 says have I become your enemy because I'm telling you the truth because she's reporting facts Because she's reporting information and now people don't like it because it's john macArthur The man has been protecting pedophiles Why is that hard to grasp and understand? Yes, we're to be given grace yes We're to treat each other with love but love don't rejoice in wickedness And love don't protect it either and some of y'all are acting as though MacArthur should be the one protected at all costs why he has been why he's been protecting pedophiles and child molesters Unbelievable how righteous how rightfully indignant you are about something if you are not showing mercy don't expect it That's why you better be right. Oh, no, no, no, you better be 100 right Corey you should be taking your own advice, bro Because what have you said? Regarding macArthur and julie roiz that was right in that video. I'm talking about when it comes to issues of sin and morality what So the warnings and admonitions that you are giving To your viewers. I hope and pray that you are receiving it yourself. I really really do because You made some strong accusations and some strong statements regarding sin And even repentance And did not have any biblical support to back it that I want you all to move away from this thought I want you all to move away from this thought that everything needs even if something was done publicly needs to be addressed publicly Now with this lady gray, I think that she needs to be addressed at least privately. Hey, we messed up Apologize and so forth, but publicly. No, we stopped that Stop that so Notice, ladies and gentlemen I didn't see any descriptions of support and if it is it's definitely not in context So public sins don't require public repentance public sin doesn't require public repentance Now you telling people to stop that No, Corey. You need to stop that Yeah, you need to stop that, bro Because that ain't biblical. I'll put this link up in the description below at the end of the video John Piper did a blog Title when should we confess sins publicly? He says my guideline is that the repentance should be roughly as broad as the effect of the sin Does anybody agree with that? Does anybody agree with that? I hope there's some biblical Biblically astute people in the in the in the audience that The repentance should be as rough be roughly As broad as the effect of the sin in other words Piper says if I got really angry at you right now He's talking to his friend Bob And says something ugly and then was convicted 10 minutes later and said bob. I'm so sorry What an awful thing to say I don't think I need to go to any group outside of us and talk about it It was just between it was just you and me nobody heard about it Bang it's over. Does anybody agree with that? Does that make does that make Sense biblically? He says now it is helpful for me to say in general terms in a small group Listen in a small group Or among our church staff, you know yesterday I was just so mildly with a friend of mine. I had to repent That's just me sharing my weakness. But as for confession I think the principle is that the extent of the confession should match the extent of the sin The extent of the confession should match the extent of the sin That's not always easy to judge. She says if you commit adultery It may ripple it may ripple out in a lot of ways more than you think And you may have a lot of tracks to cover basically that means that a public sin or a public consequence of sin Is going to need public confession and repentance. So I guess McArthur putting a woman out of church and at during during communion service And now the whole world has seen it on video Because she was mistreated and dealt with wrong He doesn't need to make it right because hey I mean it was 21 years ago, man. I mean I mean that's how the church dealt with their sin. I mean that's just you know How do we know he didn't repent because he didn't he told han show forget it When when they asked han show When they asked him he didn't take it upon himself quarry to do an investigation Grace community church elders reached out to elder han show one of this fellow one of the fellow elders because he was an elder there Because he's a lawyer and they requested they asked him to investigate that case with eileen gray and he did they didn't like it So they gave the man an ultimatum Those are the facts brother Those are the facts Piper says but most of our sins are against particular people and sometimes we may be tempted to resort to public confession Because it's easier to talk in general publicly than it is to talk Specific personally to go to a person looked them right into the eye and say I did you wrong. Would you forgive me? It's harder than saying at a saying at a small group the next night. I stole from somebody or I was ugly as a somebody So I think proportion is what we're after The proportion of public repentance should be in proportion to the publicity of a sin or a sin's effect Why is that hard to grasp? That's exactly what they said brother That's exactly what they said, brother. Oh sister. I'm sounding. I'm never sure you are. Forgive me But you said yeah words they go gcc elders force han show to resign if he didn't retract the truth I know that for a fact I know that For a show enough fact What about you corey? Do you know that? Did you know that? Okay, thank you sister. Thank you Thank you um So That's wrong to say corey Do you understand the implications behind that statement that you've just made people? Did you did you did you? Realized when you told people that they need to stop thinking that public sins don't require public repented public repentance or a public apology That that is not biblical at all At all Right exactly shonda. He hasn't even he listened. He hasn't even done it privately even when even when I wouldn't listen Even when eileen gray has contacted to this very day the woman had contacted this man and he refuses To take her call But he had no problem putting money on a pedo's books Until they got busted y'all make that make sense to me But you corey said that he's still qualified He it's a it's a missed opportunity missed opportunity No, it's not a missed opportunity That's malicious, but Let's see what the scriptures have to say about this shall we Let's see is the bible does the bible? promote and encourage public confession for public sin Let's see if we have any examples. Let's see if we have any any type of precedent in scripture that will teach us Opposite from what corey said and anybody else Who teaches that? No, no, no, no, no, no that christian fam. No, no, no, no, no Corey said It'd be it'd be it'd be okay if he you know, he should he said he should apologize her privately But it's not necessary to do it publicly why? He did it publicly But anyway Let me shut up because what do I know? What do I know? Most y'all don't listen be no way because I don't have a lot of subs and And I don't talk softly and and just you know whatever but Luke 19 Luke 19 He entered Jericho and was passing through and there was a man called by the name of Zacchaeus He was a chief tax collector and he was rich Zacchaeus was trying to see who Jesus was and was unable Because of the crowd for he was a small he was small in stature So he ran up on the head and climbed up a sycamore tree in order to see him for he was about to pass through that way When jesus came to the place He looked up and said to him Zacchaeus hurry and come down for today I must stay at your house. He hurried and came down and received him gladly When they saw it They all began to grumble saying he has gone to the guest of a man who's a sinner Zacchaeus stopped verse eight Zacchaeus stopped and said to the lord behold lord Half of my possessions I will give to the poor And if I defrauded anyone of anything I would give back four times as much. He is making a public confession Before the lord before the lord now Here's another question People may say, uh, well, you know, that was that was then I mean, you know it didn't seem like he he you know Was wanting to make it right. Why would you say that because jesus says right here And jesus said in verse nine today's salvation has come to his house to this house Because he too is the son of abraham for the son of man has come to seeking to save that which was lost apparently What he said Was enough for jesus to say today's salvation has come to this man's house Now notice this Here's another example Here's another example 2nd Corinthians chapter 8 verse 21 Paul is writing to the church of kerran. He's talking about how they should be how they should handle the The administration of the other funds and the money And notice what he said Notice what he said It of course it doesn't make it doesn't make my point to you chris It of course it would make my point to you. He who has ears to hear let him hear of course it wouldn't make my point to you uh St. chrines day 21 For we have regard for what is honorable Not only in the sight of the lord, but also in the sight of men Also in the sight of men. So It ain't just about what god sees. He says wait a minute. I want to make sure that I know god sees it But others need to see how we handle How we handle situations of finances then shouldn't also be Important how we deal with each other Show me in the bible brother show me in the bible when I sent against somebody publicly That i'm supposed to deal with it privately show me Show me Show me What do you think the setting was in luke and luke 19 james armstrong? What do you think the setting was? What do you think the setting was? What do you think the setting was? Just asking you Whether peter whether peter repent when he confronted by paul relationship to two rush 11 to 14 paul rebuked him publicly Paul rebuked him publicly and so paul rebuked him publicly in the presence of them all So what do you mean implication? That paul didn't reject it In fact paul calls. I mean peter calls paul his beloved brother But but I understand Which I do anything we can to not make right what we've done wrong to people And try to have clandestine private conversations. I get it. I understand I understand I get it So we send we send publicly, but don't have to repent publicly because after all you know It's not required To some people Only problem is that that's not what the scripture says That's the problem. Let's continue on Have you ever seen or heard of a story of someone being prosecuted? Everyone thought the person was good. Everybody thought the person was guilty Everybody by all accounts all the evidence stacked up and this person was guilty This person was wrong off with his head come to find out. Wow. We made a mistake So be careful, but I'm not you might be right You might be right and even if you are right. I still say in some of those things it still may not disqualify I don't think it does. That's just me So you don't think it disqualifies him but but you said earlier, Cory You said this out of your own mouth what a pastor's supposed to be. Let's just see is he qualified Let's see is because this isn't your qualified day one And then going into year two, you don't have to worry about it. You've already overcome that barrier that hurdle 10 years later, you don't have to worry about being qualified. No, this is what you have to be at all times Hmm. So if this is what we have to be at all times But John MacArthur Hasn't made right what he's done in 44 years in county. So then I ask you this How are you saying that the evidence doesn't disqualify him? How are you saying that the evidence does not does not disqualify John MacArthur if He is now been proven To lord his authority over people. He's been proven To not to not take care of the household of God But not going after the one and leaving the 99 You know that one is Eileen Gray that one is Wendy Gray that one is those other abuse victims that have now Either have been put out Because they refuse to go back to the abuser and biblically so they shouldn't have to go back to the abuser But you say Cory You say that you don't believe That the evidence Biblically the evidence doesn't disqualify him then then what does Then what does What does So i'm i'm i'm curious to know If all these things have now come to the forefront Then why are we making this light of an issue? Why why is this why is this making Why is this making the light of an issue? Just asking you. Oh, hey, by the way, uh, mr Chris bird you ever read you ever read ax chapter five? I mean excuse me ax of the chapter uh 16 Verse, I don't know verse 35 to 39 particularly verse 37 the 39 you ever read that remember what happened to paul In silence remember that when they were beating thrown in prison and whenever released The police the magistrates were trying to take them out the back door. What what did what did paul with the ball with the paul tell tell the uh Tell the authorities Look it up and get back at me You're welcome so now So i'm confused If the evidence doesn't disqualify him, but in the third clip that I played you said that a pastor must Always be qualified. It's not just they qualify this year. And then that's it No more review of their qualifications. So then what does that mean about john mcArthur then quarry? What does that mean? Because again, it seems like it seems like a lot of people are making excuses for john mcArthur's rebellion Because that's exactly what it is It's rebellion There's no other way of putting this We definitely know the situation regarding john mcArthur and eileen gray and what he did to her is rebellion Because when it was brought to his attention his words based on the report based on the evidence To hancho was forget it Forget it When hancho told them There's still an opportunity for us to do justice and make this right john mcArthur told that man and all those elders Who are nothing but yes, man most of them john mcArthur said forget it And then gave this man an ultimatum either he retract this statement or he's going to have to be removed So how how is he qualified? I'm confused So so mcArthur shouldn't have to repent publicly Because you say that But the scriptures say opposite of that We sin publicly. We need to make it right publicly When joseph Was sinned against by his brothers his brothers went to him in egypt They didn't do it before the whole world Because the whole world wasn't the issue It didn't happen in front of the whole world it happened to him. So they went to his brother and his brother Had to accept their apology and receive them accept their forgiveness when they was asking for it Now Unless we're going to make excuses for this kind of stuff, then I understand because again, that's what that's what fanboys and and mcArthurites do 169 are watching 118 now 171 now are in the in the uh are viewing it And uh 118 have given it a thumbs up. So um Eyes of arms out maybe allergies, excuse me, but Anyway, you see the evidence doesn't disqualify him. Yes. The evidence does disqualify him, Cory Did I hear you correctly put this up? Did I hear you correctly that eileen was escorted? I've been charged doing community service and it was caught on camera. No Uh, courier said that she was escorted, but it was not she was escorted. She was ex-communicated She was ex-communicated But yes, it was it was on it was on video where she recorded the ex-communication service on uh Communion on community service But no, she was not escorted. She was ex-communicated But anyway, let's let's move on. We're almost done Almost done But I just have to I just have to clear it up, Cory Um Because how do how do you know? I mean, how do you know that she I mean, how do you know that he's not? Um, he's not disqualified. Have you read the reports? Have you read the receipts? Have you read the information? Have you read honchos? That's my question. Have you read all of it? Because if you read all of it and this man is still it's this man is still unrepentant How are you saying that he's still qualified? I thought sin If refused to repent when it's brought to your attention The process of church discipline is supposed to it's supposed to be applied to everyone including pastors Including pastors first Timothy five doesn't give us any uh exemption clause We're supposed to fall in line of that as well too so If you got evidence to prove that you know that he's not disqualified, Cory, I would love to see it biblically Biblically, I would I mean, I think it'd be helpful for a lot of us if that would be uh if that would be presented Because right now it's not right now what we have is an individual who's in unrepentant sin He's in he's rebelling. He's in rebellion and he has yet to make right what he has done That's what we have And until he repents then the bible says we treat him like a so-called brother And or a tax collector and put him out, but we know that's not gonna happen because again It's the mighty mighty John MacArthur John MacArthur is not the bad guy the boogie man the wrong guy. He is not He's not And you guys I think many you all are gonna miss the boat mr. Blessing because you want to you want to go this route Now if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I'm wrong for I'm wrong for showing great So then who's the bad guy Who's the bad guy Cory? Julie Royce Are you sure that he's not the bad guy here? Are you sure that he's not the one? That's that's the The uh the bully are you sure? Because I like now who's the bad guy? I mean who who's putting these people who have been abused molested Sexually assaulted out of the church if it's not MacArthur who Because nothing happens at grace community church. Cory would out MacArthur say so Please don't get it twisted nothing He made that clear In the chapel meeting bro so again Who's the bad guy? And and by the way, why are you showing grace to MacArthur, but you're not showing grace to Julie Royce. What did she do? What what did she do that was wrong for her not to be extended any grace? That's what I'd like to know AT. Thank you for super chat Was the high and show situation recently. Yeah, it was it was uh, it was released I believe the report was released in either march or february. I can't remember the exact date, but it was it was this year It was this year This year I want to say february march the latest Yeah, bruh Grace the judge grace to John MacArthur, but that's Zero No, nobody nobody seems to be caring about the people who have been abused Who have been sexually assaulted? and again we If you think that all we saw In these court documents is all that happened I can just imagine that's not all that that happened But for some of you you act as though Oh I mean That's Did honcho have bad things to say about John MacArthur's character. What do you mean in the report? No He spoke the truth He had honcho had not attacked anybody. He was he reported Again, okay, so Take my glasses. Let me use my glasses. Um, he reported He he returned with his findings of the investigation Okay, he returned with his findings of the investigation And again remember they asked him to conduct the investigation. So he conducts the investigation Brings back his findings. They don't like it He appeals to them to make it right to do justice They tell him Either retract your investigation retract your statements Or leave he left the next day And then a report drop on Christianity today And that's how we have it And praise God and thank God he did And those are the facts and if we're not presenting the facts if we're not presenting a balanced view Um, then we we need that we need not to even comment on this stuff right He was an attorney And was a longtime elder He did what he was what they asked him to do And resigned because he couldn't serve along with 33 abuse enablers facts facts You can't get no clearer than that bro You can't get no clearer than that So again, I'm just curious brother what what you mean by this this whole, you know, he's not he's not the bad guy Again, if you're if you're harboring and aiding and abetting child molesters And pedophiles and that's on record though. This is nothing that is being made up Then who's the bad guy then? Oh boy Yeah, do we need to mention Matthew Mahoney? Yeah, I you know what I wasn't gonna go there. I wasn't gonna go there jenny I wasn't gonna go there I wasn't gonna go there. I I know exactly about the Mahoney situation I just have not not had a chance to to delve into that but I I I yes, I'm very well aware of the Mahoney situation Is it Matthew or Michael? I thought was I may have the name right, but I definitely know the last name is Mahoney But yes, I'm aware of that I'm very I'm very much aware of that But these people not ready to hear that They're not ready to hear that at all at all No, MacArthur hasn't molested anybody. He's protecting molesters He had protected. He's been he's been protecting molesters He's been he's been protecting molesters since since to our knowledge Since 1979 I think yeah Yep, 1979 44 years From what we have gathered information and intel on Yep, so it is it is Matthew Mahoney. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Jenny um So anyway, let's let's again, let's let's continue on just again. I'm just Brother, I'm just asking where's the grace for Julie You keep talking about grace from MacArthur grace from MacArthur. You're not you're not exercising grace for the person who's trying to hold people like MacArthur accountable for covering for pedophiles and and domestic abusers and I'm confused with that I would be foolish To take this person's word over that person's word Well, maybe this person that we're speaking in this case. John MacArthur. He ought to say something says who to who I wish he would I told you I wish he would Because he doesn't all right. He's persona non grata well John MacArthur Had no problem saying that he should speak up That is a time for people to speak up when accusations Against their character or against their name or their ministry for the sake of the gospel is under attack He believes that he should again go to the 2004 Shepherd's conference general session number two With John MacArthur go there and listen to that session. Listen to that sermon titled Christian Loyalty and he says it himself That defending one's name Reputation character from attacks when it affects the gospel. I think this is He says it's biblically justified it right. Of course. We know our lord did it We see throughout the gospel Jesus doing it. We know paul did He did it with the Corinthian church. He did it when he was going before Rome This this read acts read read read the last four five chapters of acts He's appealing his case and his defense Against the Jews that were trying to kill him and now against the the uh the roman government Because he appealed to Caesar So, yeah There are times when we should speak out spursions Letters to my students he gives an account And gives record And gives wisdom when preachers passage should be speaking out. Yeah, we shouldn't speak out against Speak out in defense of every little thing, of course not but those serious things. Yeah, we should And we're biblically obligated and responsible to First Peter 315 remember always be ready to give a defense and apologize for the hope that lies within you Doing so with gentleness and respect Thank you proverbs preach appreciate you brother. There it is right there ladies and gentlemen Listen to the evangelical pope himself make the statement He said it Not me he did Why is not defending himself? I think we got we probably can guess why you know how I know we have a problem on both sides there are people who are bothered at me for not being as bothered at John MacArthur as they are You have a problem If you're bothered if you're upset with me for not being as upset as you are about him You also have a problem forget John MacArthur for a second. You have a problem Now if you're bothered because someone doesn't love MacArthur as much as you do You also have a problem If someone can criticize MacArthur and it bothers you If someone can criticize MacArthur and it really bothers you you don't like with No And your your knee jerk response is to defend Then you have a problem Well I would agree with the fact we don't have to have the same emotion toward a person toward a man like MacArthur like MacArthur but We should We should have The same attitude toward sin Where where where you getting that from no problem I have no problem with showing y'all the only problem what I have is that Give y'all scripture. Y'all don't like it Not y'all meaning you meaning all of you, but you know, those of you who are defending MacArthur and fending Cory Uh, because again How are we How are we not to respond Or what how can we not respond? with anger And with utter and sheer disappointment to hear people minimize abuse Because it's not our child Oh, I'm not making this up I'm not making this up I wish I was I wish I was making this up But then I would have to repent But I'm not I'm not making any of this up Some of you unfortunately don't care because it's not it's not your child. It's not your loved one. It's not your mother It's not your aunt. It's not your sister. It's not it's not your Uh, grandbaby. It's not your little cousin It's not anyone that can't defend for themselves that belongs in your family. No, it ain't your two things So you ain't gonna say ouch don't care You don't care and and and it shows it shows I want people to respond biblically I want people to respond biblically because A person or persons and their children have been violated And people who you think That stands for truth are not doing it because of popularity because of fame because we placed sheep and slaves In celebrity status and like I've said before sheep ain't stars And christians shouldn't be celebrities in god's kingdom Because last time I checked the cross is level for every center who comes to faith and trust in christ So what makes you better than somebody else? Because you get more zeros in your account or more zeros on your subscription channel My my only concern is is that we're not being consistent when it comes to macArthur. That's my concern And the bias shows ladies and gentlemen people gain recognizes game people see the hypocrisy and people can see the fakery That we do when we When we try to come at false teachers and come at topogonias and come at the markers rogers and come at the mike tides They see it We come at them But then we cape for others who do just as worse And this is why I mentioned on the last live that I was on and I showed y'all the dangerous michael brown video phil johnson and and todd frio are telling the church To stay away from michael brown Because of his affiliations with people of the ihop, you know, uh movement And nar and all of that, okay I don't agree with michael brown when it comes to his pneumatology But that's my brother in christ until until proven otherwise But these people have gone on record On video telling the body of christ with their thousands and thousands of followers Not to support not to follow michael brown because of who he associates with but won't say a word about their own boss their own master john macarthur What makes michael brown named michael brown ain't molesting nobody's child michael brown ain't curbing for no pedophile and no child molester I don't I don't see no reports of michael brown doing that I don't see the reports of michael brown kicking women out of his church Because they refuse to go back to their abusive pedo husbands Or kicking people out of this off their staff or reporting them to the police I don't see i don't see michael brown doing that Or not reporting to the police abuse and molestation I don't see I don't I don't hear anything about michael brown in that regard Again the low hanging fruit the low hang i'm talking about snake snail belly low hanging fruit These people are easy to pick off but when it's macarthur People make excuses talk about how long he's been in ministry how many book he's he's wrote He's written he hadn't wrote the books. We already found that out to be a lie. So now only is that he's a plagiarist But never mind forget about the fact that he lied about mlk saying that he he stood on the toilet where mlk Uh across the room where mlk was shot at that means that would prove to be a lie I mean what what else Try to lie about where he was Charles ever had to have to have to expose that to be a lie And those are just social issues Still it's still a character issue, but now we're talking about doctrine Now we're talking about how we are to love our neighbor as ourself and what did some of y'all do make excuses for Never mind. He supports racists like r.l. Dabney and others never mind figure out that don't worry about it He was a product of his time remember that's what phil johnson said Yeah, yeah But what do I know? I'm just dropping receipts the same receipts that I know quarry could have gotten But you just you try to discourage me From exposing macArthur because and I told you quarry. I don't do this for numbers, bro Like I said in the beginning of this live. I don't do this for numbers I do this for the body. I do this for people like the eileen graze and others Who see my content? And thank god that there are that there's somebody Speaking out and trying to hold these people accountable and to wake the church up Forget about the catholic church We got pedos and pedophiles and molesters and sexual offenders in our own camp And we don't want to talk about it but but but I but julie royce has the axe to grind Okay all right all right, bro, I mean again, I'm just The more the more I had watched your video, bro The the the more and more disappointed I got and I think I think your Your words regarding Regarding this regarding this clip right here I was done I was done when you go to graze community church if eileen gray was your daughter Would I go to graze community church? Well, it we'll see that's why you can't answer a question because that would affect me personally now I've got some skin in the game It's like the guy that jumped on my daughter or did something violate my daughter Um, could could could I could I sit on the on the bus right beside him? No Could you yes? Why? See what we do sometimes is we break we want to make the emotional argument and then that governs That would be hard for me. I mean, I let's not treat my I look at my daughters as though they're gold Now do I do I look at your daughter's the same way I look at my daughter? No There's a there's four billion other daughters on the planet. I don't look at them the same way I look at mine So, Cory, I couldn't believe that, bro I couldn't I couldn't I believe I could not believe You said that And I don't know how many times I had to play that back Because I said maybe I'm missing the context of it. Maybe maybe I'm missing What you are trying to say And so I had to play it back again Would you go to graze community church if eileen gray was your daughter? Would I go to graze community church? Well, it we'll see that's why you can't answer a question because that would affect me personally now I've got some skin in the game It's like the guy that jumped on my daughter or did something violate my daughter Could could could I could I sit on the on the bus right beside them? No Could you yes, why? See what we do sometimes is we break we want to make the emotional argument and then that governs That would be hard for me. I mean I let's not treat my I look at my daughters as though they're gold Now do I do I look at your daughter's the same way I look at my daughter? No There's a there's four billion other daughters on the planet. I don't look at them the same way I look at mine Okay, let me let me remind you of the conversation that you and I had Ladies and gentlemen, this is a true story. So bear with me Bear with me. Please Very very true story. All right And this is what happened to me This is what happened to me and one of my daughters My daughter went out of out of out of the state My daughter went out of the state and and and if y'all are like if y'all are parents like us You're very you're very careful. You're very protective Of your children. I mean They're priceless possessions So if we entrust our children to anybody You better believe to the best of our ability. We've already vetted as much as we possibly can over time to have entrusted them to Care for our child or to be in their home and and things like that Is y'all following me? okay, so There was a situation sometime ago Now I'm going to too much of detail But there was a situation sometime ago. My daughter was was was with a family and the uh the father He didn't do anything sexual to our daughter. Nothing like that. God forbid and nothing nothing sexual but He violated a trust That I would have expected for him and made it and would have known that I would not have done that to his daughter His his his his daughter had been in our home And anybody that's in our home. We make sure We make sure that We have Much care and concern Of that child as if it's our own children so Our child went out of state the the other parent uh Was the other parent with the other parent was drunk and so the the wife had to drive back back home back Uh to the states now united state, but the state of Texas. There was out of there was out of the state That drive back into the state We found out about it We found out about it Had a conversation with the father told the father going forward My daughter would never be in the car with you again ever Ever be in the car with you again. Yep. He apologized. Yes. He asked for forgiveness all of that I appreciate that but I would never ever be able to live with myself If I were to entrust this man again with my daughter Driving Driving Somebody else's child is on them. I have no control over that. I'm saying for me and mine And I would expect the same way If it was somebody else's father, I mean If you are your father, would you not be pissed off? Would you not be upset if you entrusted your child to me? And then I acted in a way that may have put them in harm's way or caused them to be potentially harmed I'm pretty sure no man Would just take that and just oh and you know things happen. No So I say that because I shared that story with you Cory and Cory you mean what you said you said I said, um, you know, would you let your daughter go back or would you let your daughter, you know, uh Ride with them anywhere. He said no. He said heck no. He said man. Heck no. I wouldn't he said and if you did I'd be ready to jump on you Cory What changed bro? How is it that that resonated with you? Oh a story that it happened to me But it wasn't your child It was mine And you said you would have done the same thing I had done if it were your daughter Cory How can you say That because It's your daughter. You got skin in the in the game If I know That your daughter was assaulted That your daughter was harmed that your daughter was mistreated by anybody and it came to my attention and that person Is in my space Either they won't get out of my space. I'm gonna get out of theirs But we have nothing to talk about why because when one member suffers we all suffer That's what first Corinthians chapter 12 verse 26 teaches brother The bible the the the bible teaches the word of god says that we are joined together in the body crested So when I tell y'all about body life That's not some catchy little phrase My wife and I believe that What affects you affects me and so for you to for you to say that bro And some of y'all think it's it's nip. It ain't nitpicking Cory you got almost 92,000 followers dawg And you're sitting here saying oh And I don't have any skin in the game Brother Yes, you do Yes, you do Because we are brothers and sisters and even if illicit even if You and I weren't we are to love our neighbor as our self. Cory Otherwise, why be christians? I mean my gosh the good the good Samaritan He he took care of somebody that wasn't even a Samaritan. He was he was a dawg on jew And he went out of his way to care for that jew Him being a gentile a Samaritan a half-breed And you sit here or you sat on that video and said that because it don't have any skin in the game brother You can't you can't you can't do that bro. Don't don't be a pastor Do not be a pastor. Do not be a pastor Because does not jesus himself say that we don't have a high priest that cannot cannot feel That cannot be touched with the feelings of our infirmities We should be able to relate We should be able to understand That when I see somebody hurt when I see somebody harm is the only one by guys grace. It wasn't mine, but I That's that's unfortunate me. Yeah The good Samaritan was a half-breed. He was jew and gentile david. I mean daniel He was mixed He was jew and gentile. I said that Anyway, so you you you you have this in this mentality brother That I just can't understand what changed What what actually changed with you? What's really going on? I don't get it I really don't get it Matthew 22 39 you should love your neighbor as yourself. That's what my bible says cori That's what the word of god says. I'm gonna love my neighbor as my self First Corinthians again chapter 12 verse 26 And if one member suffers all all the members suffer with it if one member is honored all the members are honored with it Galatians 6 10 So then while we have opportunity, let us do good to all people especially and especially to those who are of the household Of faith first Timothy chapter 5 verse 1 and 2 first Timothy chapter 5 verse 1 and 2 Do not sharply rebuke an older man But appeal rather appeal to him as a father to the younger men as brothers to the older men women Excuse me as mothers and to the younger women as sisters in all purity But hey, it's not my daughter It's not my it's not my little girl. It's not my grandchild. It's not That's brother That's not how we to think That is not how we are to think You guys some of you guys have a problem And I mean a problem You should not be this offended. Do you think that do you think I don't stand for truth? Or do some of you guys think that I'm what you call a fan boy. Do you think I'm a fan boy? I've made videos critiquing John McArthur. The problem is if maybe you feel like you're being critiqued by me not critiquing him No, the thing I have issue with you about brother is simply this You don't believe this man is disqualified What what else is this man need to do does he need does he need to have somebody, you know cover For someone raping your daughter or your grandchildren? I mean when when when would it become your toothache? Yeah, you made a couple video and I'm not looking for a quota That has never been my mentality in my attitude You know contrary to you trying to tell me what videos I should and shouldn't do If I want my numbers to boost up, I don't care nothing about that. I care about the truth I care about how how what we're doing affects people and people need to know that there are other brothers and sisters I hear a remnant that care about those who have been mistreated And so whenever God has come in do that's what I'm gonna do but This is not about this is not about you um Doing things Like I would like for it to be done because I don't care nothing about that But you you're you're caping for McArthur brother. You're you're caping for him You definitely you're definitely caping for him And one other thing I wanted to bring out as well too about about your comment About you know, it's not my child. I don't have any skin in the game But brother you've been in prison And those of us who have not been in prison we know We know the mentality and know how the attitude of even prisoners When they find out that people that are in there were sex offenders or child molesters How is it that they themselves being prisoners Got more of an of a of a righteous indignation Or you want to say a moral code When it comes to those who hurt the least of these It's not their child That's been molested. It's not their child. Their grandchild has been violated that they know of that's in prison But they they treat that man Or that offender As though they have Done that to their loved one or their family member Their family member So how is it that most of those people who are probably not saved have more of a moral Of a moral stance against wickedness and And pedophilia and violating of women than you do Cory But again, that's your concern Everybody and I mean everybody So Some people are calling you calling you a fan boy I'm not gonna say you a fan boy But I'll say you caping I'll say you caping for MacArthur. You're not you're not you're not handling this thing brother with with just weights and measures, you know Proverbs 11-1 Unjust weights and measures the Bible says are an abomination to him That's what the Bible says Sometimes when I see the way that you guys treat each other Sometimes I There's sometimes I want just to squeeze you In a godly way sometimes in a rough way when I see the way that sometimes you guys treat each other the way that you treat People who call themselves believers. You don't know if they are or not But some people that they call themselves believe when I see the way that you treat in the chats Or I see I I might go and check out a lot of times a lot of times I'm sitting there at the desk working or at the church working and I'm on the computer I'm doing some work and I just happened to catch somebody else who was on youtube And I see hey so-and-so is in the chest And I see you going back and forth with the person just arguing by it does bother me and I wish that you guys would see Cardio 123 you said this you said I brought that up in his comment section He never addressed that issue Corey stood up to criminals but can't stand up to a rich white man who defends child molesters well I don't know if he saw it. He may not have seen it, but I don't know tell you about that my brother I don't know I don't know um McCoy this wasn't your first time you was talking about Julie Roy's right So you said she had an axe to grind in your in the earlier part of your video and then you doubled down and said it again Am I a fan of joe? Which am I a fan of Julie Roy's? No, I think I think she clearly has an axe to grind Does that mean that what she says is wrong everything that she says is wrong? No, I don't think that I don't think so either But now do I think that her doctor clearly not So here's my question does anybody can anybody point to me any receipts that Corey minor has presented proving that Julie Roy's has an axe to grind against John McGrath Now unless this axe to grind is a justified axe to grind meaning that he's he's he's agreeing with Julie Roy's But I can't I can't say that he is because he said that he's not a fan Of Julie Roy's and that he he said I I clearly It's clear That Julie Roy's has an axe. Let me play it back again. Am I a fan of joe? Am I a fan of Julie Roy's? No, I think I think she clearly has an axe to grind Does that mean that what she says is wrong everything that she says is wrong? No, I don't think that I don't think so either But now do I think that her doctor clearly not So you said you clearly think that Julie Roy's has an axe to grind And again, I would like to know where are the receipts? I would like to know where are the receipts? Where are the receipts? Where are the receipts? I'm curious to know where are the receipts because if she if she is if she's attacking this man unbivically And unjustly then I I have I have a conversation with and I'm making known that she's wrong But I haven't seen it I haven't seen it Corey, but you said that You said that On more than one occasion in your video and I have yet to see any proof behind that So therefore If you don't have any proof then according to Deuteronomy 19 Versus 15 to 21 and also Matthew 7 Versus 1 and 2 you making false accusations and you gonna make judgments against her Like you said be careful Corey Be careful Because in the same Measure in the same way you're judging You're gonna be judged David you said I'm a fan of Julie Roy's because I listen to her content and read it I'm a fan of her because she has more heart for victims than Corey has demonstrated And I can't I can't even disagree with you on that one, bro On this one right here. I listen on this one right here. Corey. You dropped it, bro I don't know how in the world you're justifying caping for MacArthur And saying that MacArthur's not is not disqualified When this has been going on for 44 years 44 years And he put a woman out That he that he claimed Was in an unrepentant sin by not going back to her abusive husband And what less than maybe two years if that And this man refused to repent Going on 40 over 44 years But according to you Corey you saying that she hasn't asked the grind and and and that MacArthur is not disqualified and And you showing grace but you're not showing grace to the ones that deserve it In the context of being treated and protected Not salvifically but being treated and protected By our men And by the church those who lead it Disappointed Corey if a person is going after a person because that person is is in the wrong What did I say earlier? I said you better be right You better be right That's all You better be right. You better know it all you matter of fact You might want to do as much that as you can because if you are doing so And you're wrong Who's going to deal with you? Corey I really believe you need to be taking your own advice, bro And I say that with all the love I can muster Brother take your own advice Because do you honestly think that you were right in dropping that video? about about Julie Royce and MacArthur I mean, what was the point again because now I'm looking at you suss I'm looking at you suss because you Try to tell me Not to do any more videos and to discourage me from making videos about MacArthur and you turn around A few days later from our conversation and you drop one now the interesting thing And people and people who know people who know Already knew that I had already had mine cooked up ready to drop. Anyway, but when I saw yours I said, I'm not gonna stop putting mine out Because I wasn't gonna stop no way And I believe the one that I was getting ready to drop before this one was the one I think I had did I have questions for MacArthur, Jody. I mean Vodibachem and and so forth and so on There's a whole list of right. I believe it was all that but You try to discourage me from from making any more videos about him after the Shepherds conference thing that we had that conversation on and I told you brother right then and there I said, bro, you might as well. You might as well just miss me with that I'm not stopping doing any of that As long and as and as many times as I need to I'm going to do what God has called me to do And whoever gets it gets it period nobody and I do mean nobody Is exempt for being held accountable when they are inviolating in violation of God's word and his people period Deal with it, bro simple as that so I don't know I'm just trying to just trying to You you you're making this thing bro to me to me. It's like you're not even taking your own Your own advice regarding this Yes, he he he he did yes, uh, he said he the reason why he said I thought I had mentioned it before He said the reason why I shouldn't do any more videos about MacArthur is because it's not going to help my numbers grow It's not going it's not going to benefit. It's not going to help my channel grow those were his words Those were his words And the Lord brought that to my remembrance two days ago no lie Because I forgot all about it. I just this week. I like man, but whatever. Do I ain't listening to you? Bro, we're gonna disagree on that one too. I'm not listening to you on that You know the Lord brought that thing around full circle full circle so when he said that And started caping for MacArthur in this video that he did I said, okay, bro Hey Love you. You're my brother, but you was wrong It's two left shoes on the amputee homie You just are sorry And those are the facts. I'm not lying That's what he told me Doing these videos about MacArthur is not going to benefit my channel. It's not going to help my numbers And I told him right thing in there straight up in this in this office while I'm sitting right now on the phone him that day I said, bro I said, I'm not doing it for my I'm not doing it for numbers. What are you doing it for? I said, I'm doing it for the people that need to hear the truth. That's what I'm doing it for I said, what are we talking about here? But now it makes sense Now it makes sense And God is my everlasting witness of that conversation Now y'all do what y'all want to do And y'all see what all y'all have to say But I'm not I'm not about to shut my mouth or change content for numbers For anybody and you could be giving me helpful advice Appreciate your help, but that ain't what God called me to do That's not what God called me to do He's called me to do it this way with my personality for this particular people group and target Then that's what I want to do Yes On God If you want to use that term God is my witness I don't have to lie about that I have no reason to lie about it I don't know if you any relation to Cory But no No lie, but all I know is this And all I'm telling y'all is this My bible tells me What was it then tell me tell me what was it go right here and tell me Tell me what it was miss minor You was there and heard the conversation not fully true then tell me what it was You want to drop the audio you want to drop the audio because why would I need to lie About if this is your husband, I believe I'm just saying why would I need to lie? When I told when I told him What I was about to do And the videos I was about to make that was his words those were his words to me That making those videos was was not going to benefit and grow my channel And when I heard that I was pretty much done. I said man, I'm about to get ready to go and get my stuff done But we got the phone that was it Why would I need to lie? But I understand The viewers wife understand you'll be defending them, but my wife don't defend me and lies Because by God's grace, I don't try to put her in positions to do that But but for the record Your husband been trying to tell me how to run my channel in so many ways and and even then I wouldn't I'm not listening to that And like I say it could be sometimes helpful But at the end of the day, I'm going to run and do my channel and produce my content and release my content That's going to be beneficial that I believe that God has called me to do and I can take what some people may say And take a little bit of tips and all that kind of stuff as well. But at the end of the day, I'm not going to compromise You just made my point sister You just made my point He told me doing videos about about about MacArthur's not going to grow my channel He discouraged he tried to discourage me from doing videos like this And I told him then on the phone I'm not doing it to grow my channel. This is not about growing my channel. He said well, what is it about then? I said it's about the people that needs to hear the truth. It's for those that's being abused and hurt That's what I said So but again if you if you are You said you act you act sick or you act as God. What did I I didn't ask him anything? I didn't ask him anything I told him what I was getting ready to do I didn't ask him anything About I asked about not about growing my channel But let's just say for the matter of fact, let's just say for a second. Let's just say if I did Let's just say if I did why would your husband tell me not to do videos about MacArthur knowing Knowing about MacArthur is the issue that people need to be hearing the truth about that He needs to be exposed if that were the case and it's not but even if that were the case I would never tell somebody about God's grace not to address issues because it's not going to grow my channel never Especially when I know that God is the one who causes the growth and yes, he knew he uses means Yes, he uses means But I asked your husband the question what was he about to do what videos was he about to make and things of that nature That's what I asked him. He told me what videos he was about to do I said, okay I said, well, man, I'm about to do you know about to drop this video on MacArthur and stuff over and he said, man I'm telling you why I don't know why you're doing that. I said, what do you mean? Why am I I said, why would I not do this? Oh, so what's the problem? Man, that's not gonna help you grow your channel I said, what you mean? What you mean? You helped me grow my channel. I said, I'm not doing it to grow my channel so again That's why But sister appreciate you. Thank you for even you know for chiming in I missed the first time you I believe you came on before But uh, I have I have no I have no I have no axe to ground with your husband I don't I disagreed your husband's take on MacArthur I believe his his assessment regarding Julie Roy's It's false accusation and your husband needs to repent And that's my wife charade But let me uh wrap up his last portion here We're done um I want I want to to Ask Cory this question here Cory you've you've you've gone on record as well saying that your team everybody And your words were I'm team bible thumping wing now, you know, you said I'm team Tim herd I'm team this person. I'm team. So how is it that your team? Bible thumping wing that and team protestia and and and team, you know the mob or whoever but you're not team Julie Roy's Just asking what does she do? What does she do? That was tell that you would go public. So I'm not a fan of hers. I mean Yeah, I I it's clear that she has an axe to grind against John MacArthur Brother, you're saying that those are false accusations unless there is proof and unless there is evidence that is wrong That's a false accusation And we all should be able to agree We all should be able to agree when it comes to sin John MacArthur is in sin John MacArthur is disqualified from being a pastor John MacArthur is a bully He's an old bully, but he's a bully nonetheless, and he's been that way for decades Those are the facts brother You haven't done your homework And that's what's a problem for me because it's right there for you to do it yourself and you fail to do it And it should be no reason why we should not be able to agree on these things other than the fact Somebody is not thinking biblically First come with each other one verse 10 now I exhort you brethren by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that you all agree And that there be no divisions among you And that you may be it you be made complete in the same mind And in the same judgment we all should be able to agree on this brother The reason why there's division is because people are not thinking biblically and they're looking at personalities Looking at well, what Cory says in this and the seiko said it listen. What does the bible say? What does the word of god say? That's all I care about That's all I care about I do not care About personalities I care about the truth And the fact of the matter is this The body of Christ is being divided because people don't want to deal with the sin That's right here in front of our face. And that's John MacArthur Those are the facts first kings eight 1821 Elijah came near all the people and said how along will you hesitate or halter between A falter between two opinions If the lord is god follow him, but if bail follow him But if bail follow him you make a decision Cory We we can't we can't say i'm team this person and this and this quote unquote team Are attacking those who are trying to hold people like John MacArthur accountable Protests and these people don't care And they're gonna see this video and they're gonna be licking their chops. They don't they're gonna laugh at this stuff That clown that fool tgot and all of them They gonna love to see this Why you think they all up in your channel now? Because we should be saying the same thing about John MacArthur and we're not 1st John chapter 4 verse 5 and 6 They are from the world Therefore they speak As from the world and the world listens to them We are from god We are from god. He who knows god listens to us. He was not from god does not listen to us By this we know the spirit of truth And the spirit of error Those are the facts Those are the facts I'll put this link up in the uh In the in the chat as well tonight Lord willing for those of you who have who have Experienced and and unfortunately have gone and suffered through abuse By churches that you should have been protected from This website is from uh insightful living insightful living When you go here you can find resources that can help you Through this one of the um in their sermons here as well that you can listen to In defense of the helpless how churches can deal with the issues of molestation How families can deal with the issues of molestation and again, I'll put this link up in the In the video description below but to tell people Brother cori that that john McArthur is is not disqualified Knowing all of the stuff that he did Or you not doing your research and homework and due diligence. That's the election of duly brother And that's why I said you're caping for him That's why I said it But also for the record I gave cori minor the the link to cam up early this morning And I emailed it to him as well too. So he had the he has the opportunity He had the opportunity if he wanted to to have a conversation And I still extend that if he wants to have it later either on his channel of mine Does it even matter? But nonetheless, this needed to go out. This needed to be said I make no apologies no regrets for saying what needed to be said because it's the truth and let those who Love the truth Follow it and if I'm in sin or if I am wrong Then prove it by scripture not by your feelings tgot is one of the mob We think is that that fool that clown? Mike head That's who we think he probably is but nonetheless, you don't have a lot of subscribers But but people from the mob people like Dear world christian Supports it and follows him and makes comments on his on his channel. I've I blocked him. So it don't matter to me I blocked him I don't have time to deal with the foolishness So but I just put that information out there because those are the people that are trying to come in And stir up confusion and division unfortunately, and we should not be giving them Any any any foothold with that? Yeah, he only has 11 subs. That's what I'm saying. He's a non factor He's a non factor So answer the question is courier and sin courier sin by by making a false accusation against julie royce. That is sin That is sin And courier is is also showing partiality do it toward john macarthur and not and not Not stating what the scripture says regarding john macarthur john macarthur disqualified john macarthur is in sin And to my knowledge, courier hasn't said that courier has not said that He says I I believe he was wrong in that area or he this was a this was an opportunity A missed opportunity It was more than a missed opportunity courier This was this was malicious. This was abuse. That's what this was if we don't call it what it is Then let's not say nothing Don't even don't even don't even address it. Just leave it alone Yes, courier's courier sinned Courier sinned by falsely accusing julie royce. I said that And courier needs to repent for that He made a false accusation against his sister and he's defending john macarthur And saying that julie royce hasn't asked against john macarthur. That's not true. There's no proof of no evidence of that None and he's making excuses for john macarthur as well that violates james chapter two You don't we don't play favorites because of who a person is this man is in sin He's in sin so anyway Thank you sister partiality is sin and that's what he's guilty of Why we want to talk about Wolves and false teachers all the time. We can't we can't deal with our own Yes, yes He's that's what he should have done We get out of our feelings and deal with the facts would be all right, but anyway, i'm done y'all We're already at three hours It's 10 o'clock um like the video share the video 176 are watching 129 have liked it 32 have not they don't they uh thumbed it down um far as the Far as the uh The poll goes The question i asked was according to cori minor julie royce has an axe to grind against john macarthur What say you 31 percent said yes? 30 percent said no 39 percent said need to see courage receipts first And for the record i'll say it again This is not personal This is not personal. This is biblical. I have no personal axe to grind with my brother But I publicly disagree with my brothers like my brother has publicly disagree with me and publicly says that he doesn't agree with my Rhetoric and all that kind of stuff Why is it okay for cori to say things about people and about what he disagrees with publicly? But I can't say things about people and say things about him that I publicly disagree with publicly and bring bcv to support it Why some of us need to check our bias and our partiality at the door we really do We really do Because it makes our witness look very bad To say the least And nobody gets a pass in the kingdom nobody so I've made that clear I put that out there This is not an attack if you're claiming that it is an attack then that's on you That's on you deal with your own heart do with your own attitude This is not an attack. Yep strong words Strong with buke. It is what it is deal with it. He's a big boy. He can handle himself It was said publicly. I addressed it publicly He didn't call me public. He didn't call me privately to talk about him doing his video When he planted and did it I don't have to call him Welcome to social media Again like the video share the video Support the channel. Thank you all for the super chat those who have supported with super chat Again, you can support the ministry through the links below Definitely appreciate that Body lifers appreciate that as well too love life and marriage with the woods We appreciate the support go subscribe to that channel as well too And and support other channels support other channels that are that are proclaiming and preaching the word of God As well. This is what God has called us to do. So anyway, that's my time Thank you all so much for yours. Y'all know that's real. Whatever you do. Do I think we're on out of God? Thank you for sharing this night. God bless you. Good night