 Hello everybody, this is Dazza Greenwood and I'm here at the kick-off of the Open Media Legal Hack at San Francisco Blockchain Week, at a terrific event that Legal.io and Tony is putting on that we're part of, it was called Tony, and speaking of Legal Hackers, Jameson. Do you guys want to introduce yourself? Sure, yeah. I'm one of the Global Directors of Legal Hackers. Legal Hackers is the largest conference in the American movement, and I'm also here in the Bay Area. I started a residence fellowship in Kodaks, where I'll be focusing on the global legal innovation of the future of the legal hack and the future of the community. You're here, and what we're doing actually with the distributed nature is taking something that Jameson and Tony and I and the whole crew came up with in March, with the Computational Law and Blockchain Festival, a distributed event. We're trying to carry it forward with this event. Tony, you are one of the co-chairs of San Francisco Legal Hackers, and thank you very much for hosting this launch of this distributed event series. Not at all. I'm so happy that we're taking this to version 1.5 now of this global... I mean, it's pretty unique. We as an international network of chapters, like from a grassroots bottom to a basis, being able to coordinate on an international basis is really what makes this special. So we're delighted to be able to be here for the kickoff, pass it off the baton to Kansas City, to Brazil, to Boston, and every while, so all around the world is taking part in Houston. So yeah, very, very happy that October is going to be a Legal Hack Month, and that it's going to be culminating at MRT Media Lab later in this month. But yeah, Dazza, thank you so much for being here with us. None of this would be happening without you. You know that from the bottom of our hearts. And I can literally say without you, everybody on the hanger. Thank you guys. I know you've got to get into event prep because we have 100 people coming over for this event in San Francisco blockchain. We're glad that you're able to host us. And then at the end of this event, I'll mention later, we're going to start to an interesting design workshop with your colleague, Brett McCarthy, using a mechanism design method that you have to start to elicit some of the issues and topics, challenges, opportunities that we can hack at our various venues going forward. So we'll make the most of San Francisco while we're here. Fantastic. See you guys in a minute. Thanks guys. Okay, time to get to work. I'm going to put on my hacker hat. All right, everybody, let's do this thing. Oh, Jameson, could you hit the door on the way out? Thanks. All right. So what the purpose of this launch in part is to just hear a little bit from some of the organizers across the world. I know it's very late for some of you. And so I appreciate you being able to come on. We weren't able to get everybody, but I think that who we have is a really good flavor. And so who wants to go first? Anybody? Whoever wants to go first, just come on off mute and introduce yourselves. Okay, it looks like we have Brian. So Brian Wilson, chair of Kansas City Legal Hackers, tell us a little bit about when and when is your event happening and what do you have planned? Yes, so we are, we're hosting an event over October 27th and 28th here in Kansas City. We have divided out the event into three chunks. We have the learn track, the hack track, and the discuss track and kind of sandwich between there. We're also going to have something of the festival track, which I'll get to a little bit later, but on the 27th we will be at Plexpod Crossroads, a co-working space in this really cool old historic building in the Kansas City Arts District. We're going to be going over some management 101 sort of issues. So whether that's, you know, managing your digital rights, managing your IP, managing your relationships with the people that you're working with, so whether it's concert venues, record labels, what have you. Then we're also going on that same day we're doing our hack track where we're going to try and put together this cool sort of creative work where we'll incorporate the work of some musicians and kind of, I think what we're looking at doing is modernizing kind of the first version of the film that was shot in one take, kind of using like a 50 second sort of film camera. And we're going to use this really cool integrated form of Hangouts plus Lavalier plus pre-recorded video and then some other neat tricks that I'll let kind of percolate once as they will. And then we actually have a band who is going to be with us directly. They're a group called Mount Terror. They're an indie band out of Oklahoma that I've been friends with for quite a while and they will be providing a lot of the entertainment and staying with us over the course of the weekend to try and directly learn about this stuff and really engross themselves in it and be able to take stuff away. And then on the 28th we'll be at the Kansas City Artist Coalition where we will kind of have a discussion on how the event went, what can come out of the event and then we will also be talking about the Music Modernization Act and what that could do to musicians and the way that they're dealing with some of these things and then we'll kind of wrap up and call it an event. Okay and so you referenced, that sounds amazing frankly. I think you've got more going on than any other node around the world although we haven't heard from Brazil and everybody yet so let's find out. But one thing I just wanted to mention or put a little bit of visual on, you mentioned the kind of Lavalier and the kind of media hack. So Brian and I kind of dreamed up for organizers that fill out your slides in time that will send you this little kind of kit so you can plug one end into an iPhone or an Android. It has room for headphones that you can monitor what's going on and then most importantly a little Lavalier with a clip so that we can get good audio and really hear people, hear and be heard. So we're trying to slowly make progress on making the most of this hangout capability and see if we can't use it like kind of distribute a TV studio for our events. Alright so speaking of Brazil, Mila, Juliana, can you introduce yourselves and your group and let people know a little preview of what's cooking in San Paulo? Yeah of course, Ju, I'm gonna start off and then you kick in whenever you want so my name is Camila. I'm gladly co-organizing the San Paulo legal hacker chapter but also the open media legal hack in San Paulo and we are doing this great hack day. There's co-working space called Buc that has got space for the hacking and the learning and the music tracks of our program so it's gonna be really, really, really fun. I just wanted to say I guess I did the slide spreadsheet so I'm looking forward to see how you're gonna send that little cutest thing over to Brazil so we can have a little fun. We're still deciding upon the band that's going to play but besides that they could say hey. Hi guys! Yay! Starting to erupt. So good to see you. So I was just going over how Brazil is gonna look like so and the funny part is that we have a lot of like interesting people signing in. So many different backgrounds like we have lawyers but we have cool programmers and we also have like musicians who are programmers and are studying law like the answers we have been having to our Google spreadsheets are amazing so I'll just let you jump in and say in a few words and I'll see you all. Awesome and where is that in, what is that I see in the background? That doesn't look like Brazil or have you uh... Yeah I'm actually at the subway right now so... Yeah what do we see in your background Mila? Yeah so this is the funny part because although I'm organizing so well I just wanted to make sure you can all see a little bit of Russia. Amazing. Where I'm at for just a week like this is the craziest city ever it's so amazing guys from Moscow they need to have it in here also for the next year because I'm pretty sure great things can come out of this country. Awesome yeah well I understand there's some perfectly good hackers in the Kremlin and back in Russia maybe you can get some of them interested in hacking the law with us you know in this constructive way so I'm glad that you're there. Can you come and join me on this side? Okay so we'll have a report out soon we've been joined in the room now by another creative person and Tony Lies Milu but let's move forward now to New York so I see we've got Brooklyn law representing I see Emrick as well Emrick if you want to come off mute I want to ask some questions about the Bush-Schwick generator venue but just to kind of get us into a New York state of mind Sydney maybe could you introduce yourself and your group and give us a little preview of what's going to be happening in the Big Apple. Yeah you got it so hi guys my name is Sydney Abouale I'm coming from Brooklyn, New York and I'm one of the co-organizers of the New York node along with Vaza and Mark Potquitz who couldn't be here today but so we're hosting our hack on October 20th at the Bushwick generator it's going to be really exciting the Bushwick generator which Emrick will tell you guys a little more about it's a newly founded incubator and co-working space in Brooklyn so along with all the other nodes we're really our purposes to be exploring and developing creative solutions for the ownership, distribution, protection and exchange of property rights for musicians and creative content users and creators so at the New York node I think we kind of have more of a like we definitely have a collaborative approach we've been actively recruiting and promoting people to harness the forces from like the dev and programming worlds attorneys and students in the tech and entertainment spaces artists and creatives, music and media and industry professionals alike all over NYC so our vision really is that each team kind of represents participants from all of these industries so we can facilitate kind of a cross-industry engagement and development and communication going on here so yeah it's going to be fantastic we have a comedy troupe as it does in those kind of ending out the night we have some speakers coming along to maybe some kind of heavy hitters from the music industry too we're going to join us so it's going to be really exciting we can't wait to share everything that's going on from our end with you guys and you know same goes along for the other ends too here thanks and we are in such an amazing space in New York as well that you mentioned the Bushwick generator and I see Emmerich is on the line the sort of purveyor of the space and Emmerich could you introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about this remarkable space and how we're going to use it yeah sure sounds good I'm at home now so I'm just like just like you know like just moved into this apartment here I've got two plants and not much else so yeah I mean the Bushwick generator is a tech like innovation creative hub under development so I don't know it would be akin to like what's going on in Berlin there's a couple of cool creative hubs out there certainly like San SF I'm sure there's some great spaces this is a space that we hope can be owned and you know really run by the community as much as possible so we've come up with some some mechanisms that kind of could make that happen but still we'll deal with the traditional economics as in having rent be paid so this is like a hundred thousand square foot property actually right next to consensus was by the way does an open law said they want to be involved so I assume you're talking to them but so anyways yeah the idea for the the tech hub is just that it's a creative space innovation hub and we want to enable we have like tons of local artists and basically what we do there is really like a bartering you know so if people if the artist needs something if they need like space to use for an event you know we we basically have a bounty board like we posted a wiki it's wiki.thebushrikgenerator.com and we have a bounty board on there and the artists like fulfill bounty so if we need like a website or logo designer these kind of things you know we just posted this we just released this so they're starting to fulfill these and we give them what's effectively space time so we give them you know the ability to use like space for for something that they desire so we think that that's a way to like you know this granular like nature is a way to to make the space more robust so that's that's the idea is that people come to the Bushrikgenerator like at all hours or most of the hours of the day and have a great experience and innovate and create. You're here yeah and what a remarkable space it is too I'm looking forward to using it you've got the two floors so Sydney and Mark and Jonathan and putting together this little kind of lineup of musicians and the comedy troupe and everything on the first floor we're hacking away on the second floor great who and if anybody comes in New York love to have you if you guys are a part of a space in a different place like please let me know and when I'm in your city you know I'd love to check it out so you're here thank you always have everybody on the call can certainly come work there if they're in New York and we'll see you at the hackathon perfect thank you for the space and can you hear me who's Juliana yeah I was at the subway so I couldn't speak when you guys called me now I'm not anymore so can you guys hear me fine or is it yes absolutely and did you want to say something yeah I was just like complimenting what Camilo said about the event well we are planning it to be at the 27 we decided it was better to be like a one-day thing instead of a like a three days or or more days because we had like a partnership with a place around here that offered us to do it for free so it was awesome and now we're pretty much working on like letting people know what we're doing and calling like the most diverse group as possible and that's basically it we did that a video as well I don't know if you guys checked it out but we are working pretty hard on like arts and videos and marketing in general like so people go and we have as many people as possible okay well thank you and you know by the way that's pretty I think that doing these things in one day has a benefit so we ended up doing that in MIT as well we were going to make it two or three days and at the end of the day we did we were doing it one day on Sunday the 28th and then also that's how it's going down in New York as well we looked at different configurations and you know there's pros and cons but there's a you know we can pack a lot in one day especially when we're all doing it together adding you know a thread to a fabric so speaking of that another threat to the fabric here as part of the launch is using a method that Tony Lai suggested we look at for this distributed event and it's mechanism design and the person behind this method is actually with me right now Beth McCarthy and she's going to be leading or I guess we'll co-facilitate but Beth will lead a workshop at the end of this event here in San Francisco tonight where we do a mechanism design kind of deep dive into the open media kind of legal issues and opportunities and hopefully generate surface some good stuff that we can then share with all as an input for everything that we're doing through the rest of the month so with that I just want to first of all thank you for hacking along with us Beth and could you tell us a little bit about what this workshop is going to be? Yeah so every Tuesday I lead a mechanism design like research group here so at Starfish and San Francisco so basically what we do is go through either certain like models that people are wanting to hack on that you know they're like should I have a token like would this thing actually work like what you know we know that this could be a good you know reputation mechanism but how do we actually see like where the points of incentive are like how it's actually good for users or in the case of today looking at the different points in the music industry that I guess since we're focusing on the music one in San Francisco um yeah since the different points in the music industry where you know people have different incentives and where you know values and needs and hopefully solutions flow through that system so yeah and then I guess on Tuesday then we'll continue that discussion so if anyone you know wants to call into that or is interested like I would love to talk more and also I'm going to be in New York so I'll meet some of you hopefully so yeah Bushwick Generator yeah yeah um and and well in New York um Beth is going to join a team with Emmerich and do a little bit of a deeper dive into how we can use these amazing spaces like the starfish network here and Bushwick Generator and others around the world it's because part one business model and one approach to ownership and control of art could be connected in space and time to where the artists are and like the collaborative boards and the bounty systems that Emmerich was mentioning and other potential you know kind of creative connection points by leveraging and supporting and reflecting the space so there'll be a neat kind of sub thread on that um that we hope to get started um in in Bushwick in earnest with Emmerich and Beth and then perhaps do a follow-on event that's really about the architecture of the space um not just physical but you know business legal and technical as well um so with that um I'm reminded here um to also mention we've created a page called um wait where did it go um what Brian what was the page that we created again we got the domain for open media dot space so that we can use that as the digital gallery to from which you know all of the cool things that come out of this event can be uh can live at for uh everyone to see so yeah for posterity that's right thanks I just I've forgotten the domain we had um so it's open media dot space and as we get the outputs of the different venues including I know there's going to be great stuff happening in Dallas and Houston and in other places as well we'll be sharing those through a coordinated Google slide deck but also through you know other channels and try to integrate them um at this URL open media dot space so that we can look across each other's work in a more organized way and then you know have a place for um where others might be able to discover it and add to it over time we hope so that's one of the things we're seeking to improve a little bit that um following on what uh Jameson Dempsey and Tony Li were saying this is version 1.5 of a legal hackers approach to distributed events and something that we could maybe do better on is harvesting the great stuff from all the different venues in a way that people can discover it and use it and extend it as well so thanks for that reminder Brian um and and so anybody out there in internet land that wants to hack along with us um you can get to all of these venues and so much more at legal hackathon dot org so come on out hack the law with us and um and let's see if we can't do something informative at this fulcrum point now for artists and musicians um in this new digital market so until then see you online