 and one Descaladea 2022 edition. I know, our first Descaladea in 2022. It's been a long year. We're now 40 years behind. We have 40 year old tech behind the desk and we've been on the desk. Yeah, we're talking about that a lot more. You know, folks were wondering why we switched over the Retro graphics last year. Well, now you know, we have a bunch of Retro projects and more, so this week, Lady Aida. You should take those glasses off immediately. That's better. So what do you want? Yeah, exactly. Sometimes you need rose-colored glasses to see this world. So there's a bunch of stuff going on. We've been posting up a storm, as they say. We took off on Wednesday, but instead of taking off, we just did a ton of work that I think people will like. So what do you want to talk about this week? OK, well, we got a lot going on. Do you want me to start? Do you want to play the videos for a day? Well, let's do the intro. So what have you been working on? And then we'll play the nine-minute video with all of the things we've been doing. All the updates. All the updates. And it's great because it's little one-minute bite-size pieces, and there's nine segments, nine minutes. Actually, a little less than that. But what have you been working on? OK, so we've got all these floppy disks that you and I have collected over the years. And ever since we did the Print Floppy project where we extracted the data from that Floppy disk that a Neil Dash had, after bumping the Neil Dash at a park in New York City, I was actually looking to like, why was it so hard for us to get the data off? And it's because it's like a Mac double-sided. Everyone assumes their PC disks don't work anymore. No, it's actually interesting. I didn't know this. So Mac single-sided, double-sided, and high-density disks are actually completely formatted in different ways with different spindle speeds. So it's like, there's no way you can basically read the diskette data off of anything, but up like an old powerbook, which you happen to have. But I wanted to get a flux image of this disk. And so I started going down this path of what would it take to image floppy disks? Also, I have so much of old floppy disks that I wanted to image and recapture. And I started looking at people like, oh, you have to connect the floppy disk and read the data off the disk. And it's hard and weird. And I was like, OK, I'm going to look into it. Turns out floppy disks, they do have kind of an interesting weird way of transmitting data. But ever since people started interfacing with them, the microcontrollers have gotten better and better. And you can actually use a microcontroller and BitBang the data in and read a full track at a time. And I thought it would be kind of cool if we could add this capability to CircuitPython so you could mount a fat formatted floppy disk in CircuitPython. So this is kind of like a multi-prong project where I'm doing a lot of stuff. Yeah, the other thing is there's a chip shortage. So everyone who wanted to do all sorts of projects can't. And there's also a lot of old tech around. Instead of throwing it into the dumpster, you could use it. So we want to do a little bit of that. So OK, well, let's play the film. And then we'll pop back on the other side. Yeah, so this is the one-week process of me learning a lot about how to interface with floppies and what it looks like when you interface with floppy disk drives. Here we go. Hey, Duda, what's this? OK, those are index pulses coming from this floppy drive that I am interfacing with. I just got the first kind of parts going where I enable the motor and I'm setting the direction. I'm going to get the index pulses and then I'm going to find out when it's at track zero. So basically trying to read data off of this floppy drive so I can add native floppy disk support to CircuitPython. Soon I'll update this to maybe use the RP2040 as well. Right now, I'm just writing the code in our Duino because that's what I'm familiar with. So I finally get all the IDC pins set up the way I needed to. What was really helpful was this really, really nice modern datasheet from Samsung for the SFD32-1B. So it actually goes through everything you need. And so far, so good. So I've just started basically getting the motor running. The floppy disk is responding. So far, so good. Hi. I want to copy that floppy. That's right. Here I've got some more stuff going on with my floppy disk controller that we're going to add to CircuitPython. So yellow traces you can see is the index pulse that goes low and then you see this like moving blue line. That's actually data coming out of the floppy drive. If I click the single button, you can see the data comes out and it comes out as these pulses that are like, you know, they're supposed to kind of be like a PWM but they're actually just very low pulses and then there's a pull up to pull it up high. And you can see that the data comes in, you know, in various widths. And so that's actually the tough part of reading a floppy is this is about 500 kilohertz. And the pulse width varies in coding the data. So over here, I'm actually doing something a little naughty. I'm not using a PLL. I'm actually just very, very quickly in a no interrupt loop reading those pulses and printing out the pulse width. And I want to see if that's good enough to read data from a floppy drive. Okay. Nice Nordic shirt. Okay. So part three of my floppy project is I've got the data coming out of the read pen. And this is a GPIO pin I'm toggling up and down to show that I'm properly reading the pulse widths for the data that's coming on MFM format. And then what I've done over here is you can see I'm capturing flux transition and I've got Cortex-M4 here with like 256K of RAM. And it's actually totally fine for me to just buffer the entire track of flux transitions because there's only a hundred thousand transitions maximum per track. And you can see that there's a little bit of bending here. So there's a couple pulses. You know a lot of pulses around 40. And then down here we've got pulses around 60. And then finally we've got pulses around 80. You've got a couple of extra long ones, which is a little bit weird. Like why is it 228? So a little bit more to analyze here, but I'm starting to get data coming in and data looks right. How many data was this? Okay, so we're doing some floppy drive hacking and I've got this like original three and a half inch floppy drive, but these actually hard to get because they're not made anymore. So I was wondering, you know, there's these off the shelf USB floppy disks and you know, can I somehow use those? So I opened one up and cracked it open and actually has a SFD321S sim some three and a half inch floppy drive with a little adapter here. And the adapter's got a little chip on the back. And there's all these points here and I'm hoping, can I get flux transitions out of here because I don't want it to do the translation for me. I want to get that raw data. Well, good news. I found a really nice person online who actually did the pinouts and then when I access the disk, you can see on the scope, I get my index and flux transitions. So, you know, normally if you use these USB floppy drive converters, you don't, you know, they give you like a USB mass storage, but this way I can get that archival quality flux transition data out. Lily, what is this? Okay, I still got my Panasonic floppy disk drive and my feather that I'm interfacing with and I've gotten flux data out and now I want to get that flux data from the disk drive and the feather into the computer. So I'm using this open source tool called grease weasel and I'm updating it to support this setup that I've got here. So basically I'm reporting the grease weasel firmware into Arduino. So far, so good. There's some like flux opcode thing that I got to figure out. Like I've got the flux data leaving here. You can see it's got the flux data sent and then over here it says, okay, it got the flux data, but then they're after like somehow encode the index. So I'm getting there, I'm close to getting raw data dumps onto my computer using totally open source hardware and software. Okay, happy new year. Happy new year, boom. Hey, what is this? The first floppy disk I'm gonna try reading with my grease weasel compatible firmware on this feather M4 hooked up to this floppy disk. So I've got flux data and track seeking working and I'm able to get some tracks working. Like some tracks are reading just fine. I'm also getting some tracks where it's like it doesn't see any sector data. And I think that's probably because like the flux data format I'm sending or the index, whatever opcode I'm sending isn't quite right. But for those first few sectors that I do get working, the data's good. So I'm just gonna have to figure out what it is that I'm doing that's slightly wrong. But I feel like I'm getting closer, at least I'm seeking and I'm getting some data working from the beginning of the disk track. What is this? Okay, I think I figured out all my power supply issues and my flux timing issues and I'm ready to read the secret disk that I got that they hidden that place that one time. Right. So I'm gonna put this in my floppy drive and then over here on grease weasel I'm going to start capturing track data. So I'm gonna capture all the MFM IBM PC sector tracks all 80 times two heads. So 160 total tracks. Okay, so we have read all of the sectors 100%. So it's ready to open up when image we're gonna open up that secret image. Oh my God, so it's gonna open, but I'm gonna open it anyways. Yeah, let's just open it. Oh no, not again. I've got Rick old mine, my own floppy disk. It's got good whizzes. Okay, so we've still got our floppy setup going on here where we're capturing flux traces from a three and a half inch floppy drive. But I've replaced the feather M4, Sandy 51 with this pink feather not just because pink is a cool color, but because this feather has an RP2040 on it, which is a low cost chip from the Raspberry Pi Foundation. And this chip can run really fast. Also has a cool PIO peripheral. So we're overclocking it to 200 megahertz, why not? We're getting good flux captures over here. And when we recompiled it and we're running a grease weasel, it's just working. So this is cool because now I've got two different platforms that work with this Arduino library, which is the goal to make it hardware agnostic. So more people can wire up hardware and build hardware to work with floppy disk drives. And then next up, maybe we'll try this little fellow, the Raspberry Pi Pico, $4 microcontroller board. What was this? Okay, I'm wrapping up for the night. It's getting a little late. Time to maybe do some yoga and chill out. So I've got the final board I'm gonna interface with. This is the Raspberry Pi Pico. So this is a $4 microcontroller. And the reason I'm targeting this is it's available like Digi has 17,000 of them in stock. And some of the hardware that people are using for open source floppy interfacing isn't available because we're in a silky shortage, but this chip is available. So it's nice is that the pinouts like kind of line up very nicely, you can connect them straight through to your floppy disk drive. And then load the Arduino code onto it and I set up the pinouts all nicely and test of it, where the whole floppy is fine. And then I've submitted this to the Arduino library registry so you'll be able to get releases and maybe I'll even have it auto generate UF2 files. So I think I'm done for tonight. Maybe time to celebrate. Good work. Glass of water. Yeah. Okay. And we're back. So that's an overview of everything that we're doing. Couple little side notes. I changed the ending for each little chapter because we're all on all the social media channels. And what you didn't see is this. And this is a little bit of computing history from me. So I started Hackaday. I thought because Hackaday did a lot of retro stuff, that was my vision, my idea that it would have a floppy disk. And I'm like, well, you know, maybe that's not gonna work out. So I've been thinking about this like floppy rabbit forever. I raised Tomlin Lops when I was in 4-H and so I was just like, well, so Bruce and I are a designer. We were like, okay, let's jam out and figure out a way. So if even though it's not real, the little eyes are the back, the hubs that spin. And it's floppy disk. If you look close, you see the ears. I like logos that when you look at it, it does a couple of different things like the FedEx logo back in the day, the Northwest logo. So anyhow, that's a little bit of background. So that's what we're doing. That's what we're up to. Do you wanna talk about the hardware that you're doing and then the great search? Yeah. So yeah, as you said, I'm, you know, I go at this library, Adafruit Floppy, and it's kind of designed to be a generic floppy interfacing library so that you don't have to have specialized hard work because right now a lot of the floppy- Oh, pull it up and get it. Yeah. Right there, and I'll pop this in the computer real quick. Okay, so it's, here. Okay, so- It's called Adafruit Floppy and it kind of generalizes a lot of the interfacing stuff and the things that you normally wanna do. And like, it's so confusing because like polarity is inverted and floppies are open dream. So right now it supports talking to 34-pin drives, like sometimes guard-shoegart drives that should work right now. I know it works with three and a half inch floppies. It should work totally the same with five and a quarter and it might even work with some eight-inch drives, Apple II drives and Atari drives and Commodore 64 drives, I think are a different interface and so we're gonna try to add those as well, but I'm starting with like three and a half because it's kind of like the most common and then I wanna add like Apple II and Commodore 64. So you can- Yeah, we wanna play Top Gun. So look at this. We got Top Gun and then, oh, we've got a print shop. Print shop. Cause everyone has a copy of print shop. It's the law. It is, I mean, everyone used print shop as I did to you. I made, you know, those calendars. It's like super fun actually. Like it was kind of neat at the time. You're like, you could come up with something and print it on paper on your image rate or two. So that's where it's at. I mean, I've only been working on it for a week. The thing that I got working recently is I emulate the Grease Weasel interface and Grease Weasel is software that's written in Python that you got on the command line that connects to the hardware and grabs data and then saves it into like disk formats for you. So, you know, the, you know, probably just you need to read data very fast. You really need like 20 megahertz sample rate reading data. And usually that means like 100, you know, plus megahertz processor. Cause usually it's like, you know, if to sample and count and compare it. So you need like, you know, five, you know, five instructions per read. And so that's how you end up with, you know, 100, 100 plus megahertz processors. That's where the Cortex and for 751 and the RP2040 are great. They're low cost and they're super fast. And then you read the full tracks worth of data at a time and then you can transfer it over USB to like the computer, which can store massive flux images or do that decoding. It also, what's needed about Grease Weasel is it's like, oh, it'll look for the formatted data. It'll be like, okay, I found the sector data and the correct format on the magnetic flux. And if it doesn't, it'll, you'll reread it a couple of times. So it's all that stuff should be done on the computer. It doesn't, you can do it on, you know, microcontroller and I'm going to try to do some of it. But when you want to support massive numbers of different formats, computer software is where it's at. So it's got Grease Weasel and there's also a software called Flux Engine. And again, both require kind of specialized hardware, which you should purchase to support them. But I wanted to also have a way that people could in the future use other chips. And possibly there might be other things you want to do with floppy disks, like turn them into these good instruments. Or again, you know, add, you know, floppy disk data support to Arduino or circuit Python. So you can actually read the files off the disk. So what's the project at? The other thing is all of the floppies out there are disintegrating and a lot of people assume they pop it in somehow with a USB drive that's supposed to work, but all these formats are different. It doesn't, so they just throw stuff away. And there's millions and millions of disks and our entire computing history is getting lost by the hour. So, you know, we get hate mail, hate tweets because people are like, why are you wasting your time with this? Digital preservation is a big deal. Check out our code.org and more. And there's a lot of things that we could all learn. And also, there is a ton of computing history. And if you don't know computing history, you will doom to repeat it. We really need to make things better, because trust me, it's not exactly working out right now. Yeah. So, yeah, so that being said. Okay, so let's go into the great trick. I'll show off the PCBs and then we'll show off the connectors I need to get. Where in the world is that part I need with Digikey? The great search brought to you by Digikey and it fruit every single week. Lady80 uses her powers of engineering for good to show you how to find things on digikey.com. Lady80, what is the great search of the week this week? Okay, so this week I've been working on floppy disk interfaces. So, I designed some hardware. First up is a feather that'll connect to 24, sorry, 34 pin IDC cables that are on the back of floppy disk drives. What do you wanna do? The feather. This one? Nope. This one. Yeah. And that's just kind of, you know, to make it easier for me to do the wiring because there's so many pins that you need to connect. It's not 34 pins because every other pin is ground, but it is like 12 or 13 pins or 14 pins. So, it can get a little hairy. And then to do a little bit more advanced interfacing where you might want to talk to different drives and a little like flippy floppy friend that will have all the different connector formats. Flippy floppy. Yep. Thank you for the little watermark. So, that's, it's not a watermark. I just like the little, I gotta remember because I don't want to. No, I don't mean watermark. Like, don't use the image. I don't want anyone to say, now you're watermarking because we're not. I like the little graphic we made. Thank you for having a little friend. So, and actually these are up on GitHub under an upper submissive license. So, you can use them right now. So, let's just look at a breadboard to 34 pin IDC connector. And the IDC cable is quite easy. We've actually covered IDC cables on the Great Search. So, it's just a standard 34 pin cable. If you have to do the twisted part, you need to get the special cable. But for just like you go on to one drive, just use a straight through IDC. But the tough part that's a little bit more annoying is the power connector. So, let's go to the overhead. I can show this power connector. So, so this is the IDC connector. And I'm just using jumper cables right now, but it's a, it's a two by 17 IDC. And then there's this power connector. And the power connector is, it looks like it's a 2.54 inch. But it's got like a keyed connector. And one thing that's a little scary is, you know, one side's five volts and the other side's 12 volts. Now, floppy drives don't actually use 12 volts, but just in case, it's probably best not to flip the cable around, especially if you're connecting, you know, maybe to drives that do acquire 12 volts. Like I think, I imagine five and a quarter inch just drives require 12 volts because they're just that much bigger. But I don't know, maybe eight inch drives. But the power connector is quite easy to use. But the connector is specced for 12 volts. And so I want to make sure that even though like, you know, today I'm using just like a jumper cable, I want to get those key connectors so that on my PCB, when people connect, there's no risk of mixing it up. So let's go to the computer and okay. So I actually just typed in to Google floppy disk power connector because I was like, what is, what is this connector? And there's nothing wrong with your Googling. You never know. You might be able to get some good info. So this is a nice image on Wikipedia. And you can see the key connector, red, I think is five volts and then black, black, two grounds and then yellow. Let me see the other way around. And then this is the power connector here and this is the data connector there. And again, the data connectors IDC standard issue. So this cable is actually called a Berg connector, which I always find really funny because Berg is a sub brand of Molex. Like it was purchased by, sorry, Amphenol. So even though it's like a full company, like people like to say it's a Berg connector and this is true of JSTs as well. People are like, it's a JST or it's a Molex. It's like, okay, these are companies that manufacture hundreds of different connectors. So like that's a weird way of calling it. It's like, what is that car model? Oh, it's a Ford. A Ford what? Oh, just a Ford. There's like many Ford cars. Anyways, so this connector is, let's see, I even have to pin out which is nice. Oh, yellows is 12 bit, well, so what's nice is it's a 2.5 millimeter pitch and it is keyed, so you definitely want to get the right one. But what's nice is they say here the part number which is amp 171718264 to go digikey and we type that in. And sometimes you don't get the connector but in this case, they actually do have them in stock which is quite nice. Like even though floppy disk drives are no longer made, this connector is still available, which is nice and fancy. Oh, wait, let me get the 3D model here as well. So what I'm gonna do is I'm actually gonna use this connector because I'll be able to get cables that have the matching polarity on both sides, custom made. I will say it's not a standard cable, so it's like if you're looking for that on digikey, you're not gonna find it. However, I thought as a bonus I'd show how to get a cable that might not be keyed but you might be able to use even though it's not using the same exact part number, like it's a bit of a hack but you'll find this, especially in larger pitch cables. You know, if it's 2.5 millimeter, you can find almost any 2.5 millimeter and kind of like get it to work and that might like hold you over until you get proper cables made. So let's go to cable assemblies. And in this case, it's even though it's a single line, it would be called a rectangular cable assembly. Keep this running. And one thing they do like is the Digikey Search has updated recently. So when you click on stuff, it like does the sub selection highlighting. So for example, if you go to the connector and we know this is a 2.5 inch, sorry, 2.5 millimeter, 0.098 inch, it'll actually, you can see like it grays out the cable versions like the cable PID products that won't be available. So like there is no 60 pin, 2.5 millimeter, which is expected, but there is four single row. And when I apply this, yeah, I like to apply it because it kind of clears up some stuff. And then let's look at what's in stock. And there's a few cables and some of them I'm like, I don't know, this is kind of a little bit, it's a little bit of a strange connector. But this one, you know, might work. It's short, so maybe we could look for a longer one. Let's see, length. Let's get one that's like six to, you know, half a foot to a foot long. Yeah, some of these are, yeah, like this one. You know, it's a Molex, but I think it might work. I think like this one is a little bit weird, this Bezu style, it's like a waterproof connector. Or this JST XAF, I think could also work. Like it looks like it would fit. I'm gonna order some of these and try it out. But, you know, before you get cables custom made or you crimp cables, it's worth it to get like one of each of like, you know, the matching pitch and like look type cables. And even though you wouldn't use it in like a final production, again, it could get your prototyping up and running. Cause like the cable that I want isn't made normally and I'm gonna have to contact a PCB cable making house and tell them, hey, I want the floppy connector on both ends. That's not a standard connector. Usually it would go from like the motherboard power supply to the floppy disk. So this is the bonus round. The connector is the TE amp, right angle, but this is a cable that I think might work as well. Okay, and is that the great search? That's the great search. And that's a great search. A twofer. All right, so I thought we would do a special segment that would probably be a blog post series because you know what most people like my blog posts that there's like one guy who doesn't. So this is, I'm calling it tales from the hack. And Lady A and I- Dance from hack of the day? Yeah, sort of. Lady A did and I have a rich history in the world of the hacker world, but these are positive good stories cause there ain't a lot of them. At least the ones you don't really hear anymore. And so those are some floppy, Apple floppy drives in the back there. Could you think of a story of maybe when- Who's thinking of a story? Could you remember a time where maybe people were making fun of you for doing retro hardware and what the outcome was? The outcome was I looked cool in the end. No, it just took a while to get to that. Sometimes people are really mean in person, sometimes they're even mean online. But what, tell me about the story that you told me that I thought was so good that we actually emailed two people because I'm just like, this is the best story I've ever heard. Well, we were talking about what's your first, cause we now have like a pile of the diskette drives that we brought over from Adafruit and they're at home. And it was funny cause it's like when I was a kid, in high school I had some old retro technology. Of course at the time, like retro was like five years, right? And this now it's like 30 years. But when I was in high school, I helped out with the IT department. I'm shocked. Which was like I mean, I think I played video games, but also like I think I coiled cables and I think I ran ethernet a couple of times. Like I was, you know, it was just like a high school after school type thing. And the computer lab got renovated. And for those who are about my age, you'll remember all your computer labs were Apple twos for a very long time. And eventually, you know, the Apple twos which did last like 20 years, surprisingly long amount of time, they eventually got replaced with PCs. And so, you know, one day I was down in like the cage in the basement of the high school. And there was these stacks of Apple twos. And I think they're two GSs and like disc drives and monitors. And the IT director, I don't remember her name unfortunately, but she's like, oh, I'm gonna dump through these. But if you want them, you can grab them. And you know, I always said, like I was kind of like this really weird nerdy girl who like did electronics and retro stuff and computing and coding and hacking. And you know, it's kind of the only one who helped at the, now it's kind of cool to have that in the computer lab. But at the time it was like definitely like not that cool. But they have this pile of stuff. And I was at times hanging out with a bunch of hackers in the Boston area who had this hacker space at the time called Deloft. And they really liked their old computing. They had like a back station and they had, you know, a bunch of old like Tandy's and Cocos and what have you. And I thought they would have liked the Apple twos because even though they were retro, they were still kind of expensive. So I called up. So this is where I don't remember if they call or if they put a message on the BBS but I got in touch with Joe Grand who at the time was going by a Kingpin. And I said, hey, you know, down in my high school, there's a bunch of Apple twos you want to come by and grab them and we can take some Deloft and either like sell them at Swapmeat or turn them into like some gaming station. And so he came by and we were digging through the hard run. I think we like kind of pulled out like the best of the computers and the pile. And then we're like, okay, we have to get a ride to Deloft. And we didn't drive. Like I was obviously like 15 or 14 and I think Kingpin was also like 18 or 19 and didn't have a car. So he said, no problem. So he called Mudge over and said, hey, can you come, you know, grab these Apple twos because they're really heavy and take them over to Deloft. And so Mudge came by and at the time he had a really cool car. He was just asking what it was and it was a Mustang Cobra all black. I think it was a convertible. So, you know, I'm hanging out in front of like the high school like holding like these like three Apple twos and like a monitor and a disk drive. And I don't, I'm probably taller than me. And like the most like bitching, like awesome looking car with all these mods like drives up in front. And that's where like everyone was like skateboarding and like smoking cigarettes and hanging out. This is right after class. And everybody's like, what the fuck is this car that just came in and the door opened and I like sit down inside of it with like these Apple twos on my lap and like close the door and drove off. And like, I could see like everybody was like, what is going on? Why is nerdy girl more getting into this like sweet car and who's driving away with her? So it was really cool for like two days. Yeah. But you know, this is the thing. There is a Lady Aida right now in high school getting made fun of and getting ridiculed. And I hope there is a Mudge and a Kingpin that's out there helping out and starting that spark because we're here because lots of nice people decided that they saw something in us and I worried that there's not enough of that anymore. So anyways, Mudge is now the chief security officer of Twitter and we were just hanging out with them and it was really nice to catch up. And we were just emailing with Mudge and Joe just now because we're like, hey, like this is a fun story. Well, Mudge actually is the one who told the story because I didn't remember it. And then we were at a party not recently, but like a while ago, he told me story and I was like, oh yeah. I remember it when he told me, but of course, to him, he's like, he definitely had, you know, he made the joke. He's like, yeah, I'm going to high school and picking up chicks and apple twos. Yeah. But think about it. You had cool hair at the time too. All these people and all these folks are connected and there's not a lot of us. And I think we can help uplift and rise, the raise the next generation and show them that computing can be fun. And you can have really good times and you can meet good people and there's a lot of good morals you can bake into this stuff too. It doesn't all have to be bad. And I think we're all beaten down and the last couple of years have been hard, but it doesn't have to be that way. Like we all get to do something and it affects its own little universe. But I really thought this story was important. So thanks for sharing it, Lady. I know you don't do a lot of personal stories. Now we have a video edit. Yeah, this was a, it's a fond memory. It was very funny at the time. But yeah, there was, I think there was even a computer club and I wasn't in it and like girls were in it. There was still a lot of stuff when I was, you know, in high school, I remember there's a D&D club and like girls weren't really allowed in it. And of course now that sounds ridiculous. So many girls and women do D&D, but at the time it was, it just kind of wasn't done. Which is good, things have really changed. Yeah, you were the first female engineer on Wired's cover and now it wouldn't be unique or interesting at all that that's a fact because there's been so many since. So, you know, we're all breaking some silicone ceilings around it in some way. All right, well that's the, that's all deep cuts. Good story. Okay, well that's our desk of Lady Aida tonight everybody. Thanks for tuning in. Glad we got to do some story time and more. We're going to do a bunch of stuff. Just straight up everybody, just cause I help manage 130 plus people. We have a bunch of people, test and positive, they're all fine. They've been at home, but after the holidays it's happening. They're all okay cause they've been boosted and Vax, please, please, please, please, please. Just stay frosty, stay sharp, stay safe because this wave is pretty much the worst it's been at least mathematically for the number of people how fast that we've seen in New York City in our circles. So please be careful everybody. I want to see all of you after this is over because we got a lot of stuff to do. All right, that's it. All right, more floppy hacking coming soon. Send in your cool retro stories and we'll post them on the blog. Yeah. Bye everybody. Have a good week.