 Had somebody at the movie theater tell me they were looking for somebody with one eye, uh-huh, I told them I should use too They'll find them faster Hey, we'll go back to our stupid Rick sub-corban. I'm Rick. You can follow us on Instagram Twitter from all chews Threads gone tint. Thank you. Do everybody sports on patreon follow us through the account and subscribe to like button And welcome back today. We're doing a movie review of the highly highly highly anticipated new 2023 film Rocky or Ronnie K. Prima honey. Whoa. Wow. You gave the whole kit and caboodle. Uh, yeah, I did Directed by Karen Johar his comeback after I believe it's been seven years since his last directorial Is this your first Kira Johar phone, by the way? It might be I think it is it might be I'm pretty sure it might be I'm pretty sure I'm starring Ranveer Singh and Aliya Bhatt and Dharmendra and say these other names for me Garima Agarwal Shrata Arya and of course Jaya Bhakchak Shabana Asmi quit a lot of people. Yeah, Ranveer Singh Ali Bhatt and then Jaya is running around all crazy Yeah, but since this is new so we will do a little non-spoiler and then we will get into some spoils for you Okay Lexi, would you like to go first? Sure. What did you think about the film? I liked it I don't I don't think I loved it. Mm-hmm, but I liked it. Gotcha. Obviously Love Arya, and I love Ranveer. Aliya. Aliya Yeah, I love both of them. Mm-hmm, so I think that was most of the reason why yeah Yeah, mm-hmm. It definitely dragged at points for me. Okay But other than that I would give it like a Six out of ten. Nice. Nice. Yeah, Rick your initial thoughts, please. Yeah It did not live up to what I was wanting it to be I was I was hoping it was gonna be better than it was. We'll get into into the spoiler section can talk about the specifics of that A large component of the enjoyability is the fact that we have a long history of Loving Ranveer and Aliya and there were some some especially early on I thought there were some there were some screaming funny moments That everybody was really laughing hard at but it it dragged and there were a lot of things in the writing that I thought could have been just I Just thought it it it lacked a lot I didn't feel connected to characters and it just didn't didn't meet my expectations Okay This is gonna be interesting. I fucking love this movie And I Right when I ended it I Texted my wife and she said how was I said I was you with me because I would have gone back immediately to watch this film I love this movie Wow This will be interesting a little interesting. Yeah, which is fine. Everybody's entitled to their own opinion But yeah, I definitely really really enjoyed this movie. It was exactly what I was expecting and three hours I I did not drag for me in three hours because There was like one part in the entire movie that I just Didn't in like I didn't like as much as the others But they're and maybe my audience because also my audience was laughing the entire time as well Yeah, our whole our audience was laughing hard And so like I was very connected to Aliya. I was very connected to Ranveer I loved Ranveer's performance in this To do the comedy the way he did and it was also Interesting to have your opinion on this because obviously you won You haven't seen Kieran Johar and you also haven't seen as many Right films as we have But you have seen a good amount of Ranveer's as well though, right? Yeah So to be interesting, but yeah, what did you think of Ranveer's performance in this? Let's start with the performances first. I loved it And I feel like out of all the characters that I've seen in play I feel like this one was probably the closest to his personality agree Maybe not like the cockiness. I feel like was more drastic than I think he is in person. Obviously. I don't know him Yeah, but it just and the outfits and all of it. Oh, they all fit. We're definitely Which is why he fits in the role for sure. Yes. Yeah, I really liked it. Yeah, I thought he did great Yeah, so what do you think of Ranveer? Well as I was watching him especially in the funny moments Reminded me of the film we saw that no one else liked but us Yeah, whatever that his comedy skills are way better than I think anybody talks about I which is a If you could do comedy Comedy is much harder than drama. Yes, and and he has really really good comedic instincts comedic skills There were some really funny moments in that and I felt that Really considering and I'd say this about Ali as well I said considering the parts of the script that I had some troubles with that I didn't like Yeah, they're the kind of actors that we say this all the time that they're gonna They're gonna do the best with whatever they're given And I did find there were some spots particularly for Ali as character But it's because of Ali as character being not as shallow that that there were moments where her depth as an actress Kind of it was almost for me wasted in terms of what she's capable of and where this could have gone potentially But ultimately it's not just the like ability of Ranveer and alia and the familiarity of them They just they carry the parts of the film that I enjoyed the most because they are who they are they're Really talented people also great chemistry Yeah I know you didn't hear about but obviously right like when the first song dropped which was funny because it was Which was the cashmere snow song song when they were in the snow after the big thing I'm not gonna spoil anything for anybody But there's a reason why I guess some people probably felt that they weren't as connected as they yeah There were people saying there was no no chemistry, but also it's just so strange that one you would judge chemistry me too a song me too without seeing the film But because also you don't know the context of the song either Before you see the film, but I really enjoyed their chemistry together Alia had some she was the more subdued character obviously rent I had the more Landish he had the more opportunity to fail. Yes in this he did She still showed her fireiness though. Yeah, that we you see sometimes in a lot of times a golly boy You saw here. Yeah, I think they're properly cast these there They fit very much into these characters for who they they are though. They weren't for me as Fully formed as I think those two actors can be but that's okay. I thought I have no problems at all with Alia and run We're in this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Would you think about everybody else because I want to talk about specifically I want to talk about actually Jaya What do you think about Jaya? I Enjoyed Jaya There were a couple of moments where for the first time I Felt she wasn't grounded and she was right She was struggling which is funny because we never see her do that the red song Yeah, we were like, oh, yeah, you can't she can't do it It wasn't the entire time, but I was like of everybody in it I was like she was giving the most she was she was giving big B in in K3g It was very very much that big V in K3. Yes very much that her character was basically big B in K3 yeah very much and so maybe it's just because she's not used to playing that type I don't I don't know that I don't know she was given and it wasn't the whole time, but that I just thought there were a few moments I just thought that was interesting because we've never seen that in her before K3 I know you haven't seen K3g, but it's a massive Bollywood film Karen Johar as well It's basically quintessential early 2000s Bollywood. Everybody's overacting everything's melodramatic, right? It's wonderful I love that movie But she even though everybody else in the movie is Insanely over-the-top she was very very grounded and so it was just interesting that Her character was the one that more than everybody else. I felt gave a little bit more than she should have at times Maybe that's the direction. She was given What you lost my train of thought well since you did I have a train of thought I will put on the track go ahead. I know there's folks that will make comparisons obviously of Say run viran alia and say the quintessential Bollywood romance couple of it of Shahrukh Khan and Kajal and First of all that that's not a fair comparison. It's a completely different era first of all I Yes, there's no comparison No one ever will compare to that era in that time and to Shahrukh Khan and Kajal They just they won't and I thought Given the fact that that Comparison was undoubtedly in alia and run veers minds It had to be I'd love to talk to him about it and see how much it may be Wait on them or if they were able to really to just shut it out If maybe Karan was telling them don't think that even though we're going for this kind of film I think that was a credit to them as well as I didn't see them and ran run beer could have really screwed it up Oh, yeah, he could have really gone over the top and everybody would have said calm down You're not SRK. Yeah, and he didn't do that. Hey, he was trying to be it was trying to be SRK Um, I thought yeah, his performance is probably one of my favorite performance just because it's it he played a character and it these especially over-the-top characters that are Larger than life themselves and they're like basically a stereotype of a certain type of person. They could be really really Sticky and not work not work just not work and he didn't come across as not charming come across as being a complete Yeah, and he's not he remains charming. He came across as charming. He came across as very funny In this and they're the reason I would watch it again They're the reason I would watch. Oh, yeah, they're the main That's like the reason I would watch La La Landis against Ryan Gosling in my stone. No There's there's films. I would watch where one of the leads I disliked and I wouldn't watch it for one of the leads well, I can there's Lot of movies that I enjoyed the film but didn't necessarily like one of the people that happened when I watched barfi remember Originally, yeah Priyanka Priyanka and Ren beer and ren beer. Yeah What'd you think about the songs? One right no, you didn't say she didn't she didn't see any of the songs The only thing that I saw was stuff that they posted on Instagram. Okay. Yeah, so she never saw the song So what did you think of the song? I? Don't feel like there were that many Were there a lot well do you mean like songs where they dance? Yeah, the item song yeah, because there were a lot of obviously and without giving anything There's the cashmary snow song. Uh-huh. There's the big dance number. That's everything's red Yes What I liked them. Yeah, I've seen better. Yeah, but I enjoyed them. Yeah, like I was like just vibing yeah I'm yeah, what do you think about the songs Rick? Yeah, I liked them, too And I liked the overscoring. Yeah, I was I was expecting it of course It worked and it actually he I thought that was something that he did well with the direction Is that he added enough of the stereotypical 90s Bollywood stuff where you get a little Wink and a nudge with the music, but it wasn't as ridiculously melodramatically over the top Yeah, if there's a credit I would give to the movie in that regard. I I felt that I Thought he did a good job of making it feel like those films without it trying to be a copy and It being something new which is one of the things we talked about was is he gonna be able to make this work today? Yeah, and when it comes to the feel of the film that too is one of the reasons why I would give it a Higher grade it's not a love, but I didn't walk away from the movie Disliking it. I just didn't walk away from it Yeah, and for me the biggest drawback for me in terms of it without spoilers was just it it got primarily because of Writing and pacing it got really slow and I got bored a lot throughout the film. Yeah I always I funny enough. I was actually thinking I was sad when it was I knew there was about 30 minutes left Cuz I was like, I'm just really enjoying the time But another thing I want to just say on the before we get into some spoils About the film because I like I said I love this film. I would see it again I would if my wife could have out of gone immediately to the next showing and watch it with my wife because I really enjoyed it, but the On the Kiran Johar directing that you were just talking about I actually thought this was extremely introspective direction From him and how so you're not gonna know a lot of this because you haven't seen a lot of it because I actually thought it took It obviously there was some messaging obviously some very on the nose some not so on the nose Agreed, which is some of the problems. Uh, well, that's part of his filmography. That's how that's how he's true He always has a kind of a social message This one was just interesting because I thought this one was a lot of a lot of the stuff that the old ones did a Lot of people have said like that's very toxic of what you're doing It's very patriarchal like the like K through G's DDL J's Of the time looking back on it. Okay, that's what they're saying Okay, and so I thought a lot of what he did in this was actually Especially I can't go into specific. Yeah, I'll have to do it in spoilers But there's some stuff that I was like he kind of contributed actually to some of these Problems. Oh, I see what you're saying in these old films, right and he kind of Is letting you know he knows it kind of put up a mirror to himself. It's like I get it's a different time right It's I think you're right I don't want to say anything specific because it would give stuff away, but I think you're absolutely right I think it was very introspective. I feel like it was a very current joe har film In turn, it's like I said it was everything I expected good and bad. I was expecting the overscoring I was expecting some of I wasn't expecting the the over the top friend from Jaya She was not the one I was expecting it from so that was unexpected. Yeah But I was expecting that I was expecting the on the songs. I enjoyed the songs They they were even though I've been humming the I've been humming that since I they ended it. So that one was very Memorable. Yeah, maybe it's just because it was at the end Not as memorable as k3g's or kooch kooch our eyes soundtracks for sure. No Because I'm not like even though like I think I really enjoyed What chumpka more in this than when we reacted to it even though I enjoyed it when we reacted to it It's just um, there's no like Like there's so many bangers and it's it's it sucks when you like you are comparing it to his old stuff Yeah, but his stuff can often has great soundtracks. Yeah, I can't help it And so that that was one element of it that I I do agree But overall like I said, I I love this film. I would definitely recommend I think a lot of indians could especially Enjoy this even more because it's a this is a this is a genre in india. It's the family entertainer So it's not it's something that's not gonna go as deep as probably rick wanted it Obviously as I know you said But it's they really wanted to make everything available to the masses and I thought they had enough messaging to Get some things across as well to the masses of the people that would normally go to these style of films Uh, and uh, we're gonna we're gonna please everybody because there's gonna be people in here who love the movie And there's gonna be people in here who didn't oh Just like you and me. Oh, yeah Yeah Because I because for you you'd go back and see it right now and for me if I never saw it again I will not lose sleep Uh, I was yeah, Steph. I was like right when it comes to amazon. We're gonna watch it. Sorry. Um, but yeah, so they liked it I really loved it. Uh, anything else you want to say in the non spoilers before we get into some spoilers here. No, okay So if you haven't seen it, please go watch it. This is for everybody who's seen it This is for everybody that's seen you have seen a little more details Yeah, uh about is there's something specifically you wanted to talk about that you that you Elements that you didn't enjoy. Yeah, the primary the primary part of it that leads to the the boredom I had with it and why I I never really got connected or cared Compared to a lot of other films that are of its kind of genre were I felt first of all one of the things that was just odd to me And it seemed and I actually saw a couple of reviews That mentioned the same thing after the movie after the film Um Where there I think there's going to be some people who don't like the stereotypes that come from the Punjabi and the Bengali community because they're pretty much Even though he's purposefully doing the stereotypes. They're the kind of stereotypes that I think a lot of people are saying, aren't we Can we does this even work to use it right now particularly? Uh the one being with the Bengalis, which is a true stereotype and it wasn't as heavy as because The stereotype with the the Punjabis was they were the antagonists in this pretty much So with the Bengali community, it's they're the artists. They're the educated They're the political and they're the high brow comparatively and that the Punjabis can tend to be the Um, the the the argumentative and the stern. There was also a continuity mistake Jaya told alia to put her thing over her head and then we cut away and come right back and it's off her head I don't know why that was allowed. Um might have fallen Like then Jaya would have immediately said put that back on your head So I I don't know why that was allowed though. So the it just I it didn't have I it didn't maintain my interest I felt like the characters were were funny But when it came down to trying to get me to become invested in the story in any way and I granted I wasn't expecting this to be when harry met sally or anything of that nature or even the rom-coms We just saw I knew what we were going into I just really felt like a lot of the writing was was kind of Simple it it So many of the things that that tied up didn't really seem to have much of a A wow factor for me and a lot of the one word I can sum it up is for the story And the connection to the people and their interactions. I just I just didn't gain a lot of interest I just was pretty much bored with the story that for me would be the screenwriting would have been the story the screenwriting Hmm Lexi You want anything? I mean I liked the story to a certain extent. I don't remember like specific parts that I felt like dragged I just remember sitting there being like, okay, this is Kind of boring. I know it's that's also part of it. I'm just not used to watching movies. Yeah, I get it. Um But I'm a sucker for a love story and they were kind of two in this one And I I wished we had had more of that I wanted to know more about them. That was I I thought that was a super interesting one You're basically letting these people have an affair, right? Once again, this is a spoiler With jaya still right there And so and they didn't explain the relationship of how it came to be of jaya and so I they kind of wanted that too I would have loved to know more of I'm I assumed I was like this would probably an arranged marriage Maybe something along that if it was explained things weren't fleshed out Even even even for I mean, yeah It's believable that people just fall in love with each other because they looked at each other and the sky was a certain way And they're in love just everything didn't everything just kind of fuck just kind of landed there And I felt like her his dad was just a bad guy and then suddenly Has a grand change of character and there wasn't whereas in those other films Though they're still light fair There they have some poignancy. This is that's what this was missing this missed this missed some poignancy for me And just not really fleshed out things like I would have loved to know a little bit more about their story I would have loved to know a little bit more about Rocky and Ronnie personally other than their family. I I I didn't believe his mom and dad were married I just I just didn't believe that relationship Um, and I think part of that was because of the writing I didn't feel like there was anything we got to see that got us to that place I also it was odd to me if we're gonna do these families. I I don't know what Punjabi sounds like So I don't know if I heard it. I don't think I did but I think there was only one instance where I heard the Bengali Which was when they were doing the reading. I thought that was really funny when he saw the picture and he said granddaddy It was to gore. That was great. Um, but yeah, that's my my primary thing was it felt like these were very Paper cut characters that really didn't have much to them. Therefore at moments where I wanted to be engaged I wanted to be emotional. I wanted to care. I just kind of left the way I felt when I walked in Yeah, no, I uh, I can't relate to that. Um, I I was I related to a lot of people in this. I love the Um Ronnie's dad that whole element of it. Um, it was very very sad For for a minute. Also, I love the Dolo, right? Uh remake, which is wonderful, right? Yeah Uh, and there was a lot of um They obviously they made statements with with certain things like certain things in the culture that um are Very prevalent in the culture that I thought were um some Very on the nose like the the part that I was like I thought it was kind of funny But I was like you probably could have left us out was the whole um um Advertising part. Oh, I was like, okay. This is I get it. But it's a little on the nose. Okay Little on the nose uh here and so that that's the part that I I didn't I was like you probably could have just left that segment Hey, it was only five minutes though. So it's yeah, whatever. Did you you didn't feel for example that Whether it's the stereotyping punjabi or Bengali leave that aside. I just I felt that His family was just the stereotypical. We're the legalists and you're the progressive Yeah, that's that's a hundred percent what it was. Yeah It's kewin johar, man. No, I know What I've I've seen that in others of his films and they they were they were There was far more intelligence being expressed than just a stereotype of okay You guys are going to be the conservatives and you guys will be the progressives um In a kewin johar home because the last kewin johar film was K through g and you didn't like that one very much. No, but for different reasons. Yeah, yeah um, it probably doesn't help also That I this is the first movie I've seen after seeing barbie. So I'm sure that doesn't help No barbie is yeah, you're you're Henderson, right obviously, but yeah, that's 100% what I was expecting going into this film was the The not going to be that deep Even though there were elements that that I did it really enjoy and I thought were very deep example Yes, big b is the proverbial. Yes bad guy. Yes, but I cared Well, I didn't I did about him. I cared about that relationship. I was very upset when they forgave him You that's because you care and I know I was just say that element here That's one of the things I was referring to one of the things there's actually multiple things I was referring to here When I said, uh, he's very introspective because of that element at the end because obviously that's That's a a lot of this was very Indian culture with family, right? Um, in terms of how they argue why rand veer got upset with her When she was standing up for it was more because she did um, yeah Did whatever um, and I was like rand veer. What the fuck man because I'm coming from coming from an american culture It was like right. She's standing up for so she's totally in the right She's totally in the right and you kind of have to like this is Any the way they do things is different they forgive amatuck bachan when he does not Deserve to be forgiven in the end of k3g. I thought they were gonna do that with jaya in this And and I was kind of okay with what they did with the dad um because of What he what he did I was still like right at first. I was like, no, we are not going to forgive either of these guys I was like, you're all leaving but this is great. I love this But it didn't upset you that he had a change of heart and was reconciled and it didn't upset you That at the end she's smiling when she gets the letter from jaya and it's like all things are okay That didn't upset you no because that's that's not forgiven of the family because she That's that's just her uh Because she probably wants the grandma and the family because she knows how important the matriarch of the family He's to the family So it wasn't the family has forgiven her. It was ronnie reading it who is technically not part of the She read before she was getting married right before she's getting uh, I also had I also wanted The moment where he stops his dad's hand. Yes It didn't I would have preferred it it to have been I would have loved it to have been in the moment Where the three of them are having the fight and his dad went to strike alia not his wife Well, it's also but also that's he's not going to strike somebody's not in his family Either I don't know respected person. This is a close between his family It is but based on what she did in the midst of them doing a worship service and there she is striking him I found it not within the character to just Kind of just stand there and it was in public though and he's a public figure Yeah, it's still it just I again another thing that just didn't resonate with me Weird, uh, another thing that I wanted to talk about in terms of the uh, Interpective was right in the beginning When all the fat jokes were being made I was like, are we really doing fat jokes in 2023 karen joe har It obviously came around to part of the story, which is actually something karen joe har in his old films shower con was going around calling I think it sits there and we've seen it in a ton of films Like they call like their loved ones that are overweight fat Whatever the word is for fat. So right and it's it's literally part of the culture Like it's just how and so I thought it was a one Very mirror up to the society of this is probably not okay. We're in 2023 guys. I think we're past You know, yeah, all in people so yeah, but also the fact that he has put that in I think it was probably in ddlj coach coach all die and k3g All of him because it's just kind of how they talk with other friends or friends or we've seen it hundreds of times Yeah, lots of times But I was it was jarring at first because I was like, are we really doing this in 2023? We're making fat jokes It's kind of strange. I also like that he made aliyah ask who was the president of Did you get that joke? Yeah. Yeah, you remember what happened with aliyah a long time? Yeah So I thought it was very funny that they included that another um When the the whole speech after his dad um He said I loved Ranveer's performance in this he had a lot of emotional moments He had a lot of very funny moments But after his dad danced and everybody was laughing at him for some weird reason even though he gave a great performance I get it because it's like a a girl's Dance that he's doing. Uh, yeah, it reminds me of the etel kulkarni movie. Yes. Yeah But then he was like he was about to say ben chop I can't say ben chop. What can I say? Uh, it was actually because I was like I was also worried about the speech as well. I was like, oh, we Is he trying to defend something like misogynistic thing. It was more of an introspectives. Like I didn't know these things Yeah, can I be should I be cancelled or whatever for these things? Uh, and so I enjoyed that moment um Yeah, I I I really enjoyed it. I'm sorry. You didn't enjoy as much as I did. I liked it. No, uh, so that's good Uh, I'm glad you liked it. Uh, because a three-hour movie that you didn't like is But it but in all sincerity the like is just I mean it I the main word takeaway for me was I was bored That's not a good That's not a good thing, you know to put up there as a slogan of weirdo, you know of Go see this movie. You'll be bored. We're bored the whole time No, not the whole time don't listen to it but for if for more than half of the film. I was bored I wasn't bored for more than half. There was a certain segments that I was like Definitely, yeah, basically basically the middle the middle chunk of the film It just it was it felt like For lack of anything Interesting We had music continuing us through the story anytime I got bored as long as it went back to them Together. Yeah, I was fine. It was uh, Randall was still hot right like see yeah, I can carry it for three hours It can Randall can kill he could be naked on screen for three hours. I'll be very happy multiple times Uh It was funny when they first showed him. She's sitting next to me the first shot that they show him. She goes Oh god They're shaking his protein shape Literally water's pouring down his chest. Oh, yeah. Okay. Great. Yeah. It was it was wonderful The whole scene where he's introduced to alia. I thought it was very very funny When they first meet in his office Uh, I really enjoyed that moment and to credit him for anybody because there's so many people who hate him Undeservedly a very similar character for this and to show you His different approach and how he can play what seems to be a similar character, but they're very very different Ramleela same guy But he's not the same guy same guy In terms of outlandish braggadocious. He knows he's beautiful He's so versatile, but the ramleela character is a very different kind of guy Yeah, I I just He He's a great actor everybody It's so funny because I it sucks that I have to defend him because then we're labeled the renvier stands, right? And I'm happily one because I yeah, I don't he's I'm it's weird to have to be like Embarrassed of being a fan of a really good actor It's right, but it's like if in america people for some reason hated even though I think he's much versatile than the actor that I'm about to say Like if people like just didn't like ryan gosseling and we're like ryan gosseling is a cringe actor He's an over. I'm like, what are you watching? Seriously What are you? You may not like him for some reason that's personal, but you can't say that ryan gosseling is not a good actor Not a good actor. He's also very funny very funny guy, and he's extremely attractive. Yeah No, that's a good comparison More charismatic and much more versatile as an actor. I don't think ryan gossin can play a lot Exactly Well, that's the thing that boggles my mind is there's he's already done enough stuff that if people watched it. I just I just I think a lot of it you've mentioned this before I think a lot of it has to do with they just don't like him Yeah, it must be it. I don't get it either me too. I saw gully boy and I was like He seems like such a likable guy. Well, look at those characters Look at the character in gully boy and then go to padma vat And then go to bhaji ramastani then go to ram li let then go to this and then go to the one I always I don't remember the name of the comedy we loved And even in even though we didn't like 83. He was yeah He did a great job and his character was different than everything has ever done. Yes playing a real person. I say joe Anyway, uh, I know you haven't we had to cut we had to close with some Run veer. Uh, I want to make sure there was nothing else. I wanted to talk about. Um, Probably not. I think that's it. Uh, but yeah, really enjoyed it. Uh, I Tell me if you loved it. Tell me if you were bored. Yeah, did you rate it 10 out of 10? Yeah, what would you score it because I would give it a C Oh, no a C. Yeah, right. I would give it a Well, you give it a six out of 10 That's a d That's why the rating systems are dumb rating systems are dumb. Yeah, uh, I don't know because It's hard to compare it like a 10 out of 10 film can be also like They're the ones that keep it high for me is is reverie and ollie Um I gave on like I would definitely give it a like if it was out of five either four to four and a half definitely Wow, uh, just because I did love it the entertainment factor of it It's like you can't compare it to yeah, I had a 10 film of on a five on a five I'd give it a two and a half. Yeah, I would give it a three and a half. That's super weird Anyways, let us know what you thought about the film. Did you like it? Were you bored? Did you hate it? 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