 Used smartphones could become common enough, but then you have to have a plan For 200 bucks that's a lot for somebody living on the streets. Oh, yeah, it's still not. Yeah, it's still a lot $10. Yeah It's the service more than the I'm sure you get a hold of a used device for cheap or a go phone or something like that. Yeah Well, we're live on the video Thank you everyone for watching. It's our last day at CES and Dare I dare I jinx us? Oh so far the power is oh Don't say that don't say it. No flooding this year Yeah, it hasn't rained at all. It's nice this year. I thought it was great weather It's so nice. Yeah, I've been going outside with like t-shirts on and I'm like man Doing the shorts. It's been cold at night. Yeah during the day. It's been very pleasant. Yeah So it's like it's not as cold as it could be. Yeah Very little rain last week here, but yeah, I thought we were gonna get rain yesterday and I never never materialized That's what happened to see us. It's so boring. You just talk about the weather Nothing else going on. We'll come back in the summertime. But it's nice and high. Oh, yeah, it does get hot here I'm ready to go. If everybody else is anything else Sarah. Are you ready? I'm ready. Yep, Roger. I'm ready Roger is ready All right. Oh, I am not ready. I Have to add one thing Then I'll be ready fuck amongst yourselves I'm talking amongst myself And then go check out how are you? All right All right, you're not talking about yourselves. I'm ready. Okay. Here we go in three two John Chabowski has supported independent tech news directly for five years be like John become a DTMS member at patreon.com slash DTNS This is the Daily Tech News for Wednesday, January 9th 2018 From the Las Vegas Convention Center at CES 2019. I'm Tom Merritt and I'm Sarah Lane. I'm Shannon Morse Hey, I am Robert Herron and Robert of course here from ABXL and expert on all things HDTV good to have you absolutely Shannon of course from Threat Wire and Tech Thing and Wait, I don't want to get the name right sailor snubs my new YouTube channel And and all of us have been Crowding the show floor our producer Roger Chang is here his mic will work on the hangout. Hello. It works on the hangout Yeah, so we'll we'll navigate around that but we still have a lot to talk about not a baby Not as much as the last couple of days, but still a lot. So let's start with a few tech things you should know Yesterday we passed along Google's assertion that Google Assistant would indeed come to Sonos speakers in 2019 after missing the original 2018 target and today Sonos itself announced Yes, it started a private beta test of Google Assistant on its smart speakers for a 2019 launch Google Assistant would directly integrate into Sonos one and beam speakers and older Sonos models will work in conjunction with Google Homes and Similar smart speakers Alison Sheridan alerted us on Monday's show To a robot Tesla collision and now has alerted us to Electrics article noting that the Tesla collision with a promo bot may have been staged We regret any misimpression we may have given and denounced the sacrifice of innocent robot lives in the name of public relations Yale and mTek are showing off smart door locks that run August smart lock software the parent company of both locks also Owns August so this isn't a huge surprise But it is interesting to see that the software is moving to non August platforms without the need to purchase additional Equipment the mTek models are three hundred ninety dollars coming in April or four hundred forty dollars with a keypad Coming in February the Yale lock is meant for interior or basement or side doors and versions with keys keypads and touch screens They range from one hundred forty nine dollars to two hundred ninety nine dollars shipping in Q1 LG is going to use Microsoft Azure data box AI service in its advanced driver assistance systems driver status monitoring camera and Multi-purpose front camera which is providing to an unidentified premium German automaker aren't that many of them? So you probably have a good chance of guessing which one it is It's using Azure's virtual assistant solution accelerator for traffic updates restaurant listings and music Microsoft also partnering with Volkswagen On an automotive cloud so Microsoft starting to move into this space a little bit, too Some good news for those of us with more than one Instagram account Perhaps a fenced up the iOS version will now allow you to post a photo or video to multiple accounts at once CEO Kevin Cisterham told wired back in 2017 that the company preferred to focus on Authenticity and user connections by not allowing things like regrams and multi-post within Instagram itself But Cisterham has since left the company and it looks like it's a new world just in time for us not to be able to cross All right, let's talk about some of the cool things we've been seeing at CES We've been keeping you up on the big news and the press announcements But once you get into Wednesday, it starts to be a little bit flexible about what you want to talk about and Robert Herron obviously Seeing all the TVs and the home theater stuff out there Robert What let's start with I actually want to ask you a question many LEDs that that's sort of the trend buzzword this CES what what are many LEDs? What are they good for? Why are we hearing so much about certainly one? It's an easy upgrade but the main benefit would be that the ability to control the backlight on an LCD television will be much more granular instead of having large blocky zones like if you've ever looked at an edge Let TV where it has just LEDs along one inside of it You literally have stripes of zone control that are gigantic and it's really hard to have edges that can have a High-bright zone and then pitch black next to it So if you can increase the number of LEDs behind the screen and in this case we're talking hundreds and hundreds and hundreds You'll end up not only More I think a picture that comes closer looking like a lead looks like in terms of being able to produce those inky dark blacks Yet minimize the blooming artifacts and other things that can occur when you're dealing with high contrast content excellent What is one of the things that has caught your eye the most? Well a couple too well start right off the bat with Tcl's eight series That's an example of TV that's being upgraded if you consider what the six series was super popular Affordable and it's supported things like Dolby vision in HDR 10 the eight series is going to add for the first time quantum dot technology For improved color performance we're seeing that a lot more TVs now You're saying and they're quoting hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of micro LEDs on the back of the TV So I'm guessing it's at least 300 LEDs 300 zones so to speak But right nearby at the high-sense booth. They were showing off a large format display 8k that will be out later this year that had quote-unquote 5,376 LEDs driving behind the panel so Very good granularity in terms of light control and everything like that What are they even have a retailer ready to go? So this is something that will actually show up Everybody wants to know out there like why do I care about 8k? Is there a reason yet? I personally think that once you hit certain screen sizes, especially large screen sizes In particular, it's just nice to have the pixels be about the same size Say as a 65 inch or a 55 inch 4k TV Because if you just simply scale the size of the panel up the pixels need to get larger and larger and larger And if you tend to sit a little closer, you're gonna notice that so by having literally four times the amount of pixels Compared to an 8k screen or compared to a 4k screen You're just gonna have a better experience especially if you sit closer The other thing is it is gonna require additional processing because there is no 8k content really yeah, so You're going to need something you can take your 4k content or let alone HD or SD content and scale that properly and make it look Really good, and I've seen lots of demos where 4k Blu-ray on an 8k screen I'm really had a hard time to seeing a difference between that and native 8k content So would an 8k screen make more sense in like a big business platform like in a stadium or a studio or something like that? At any distance beyond where you could appreciate the detail it really wouldn't be necessary That's where you could get away, especially for the something like outdoor signage or things like that One nice thing about it the 8k screen is literally you could quad-split it and have four 4k streams going at once That's always a feature I would want. Let me let me have crazy sports day with multiple things in high quality Where I'm not really have to sacrifice the resolution per se now I know you've been seeing a lot of laser laser project not lazy projectors But laser projectors very hard-working laser projectors at some crazy prices and one in particular that turn you tons of killer deals So if you've been considering something that replaces the lamp module with a laser-based system LG recently introduced their short throw design that gives you a cool color laser system for improved color But the one that really caught my eye was again over at the high-sense boot They're actually showing off the first time I've seen in a consumer unit Three-color laser red blue and green as the primary colors being driven to in this case It was just a 70 inch screen, but even in its prototype stage It looked fantastic, and they're talking about having this in in the stores before the end of the year And if you compare other companies that do currently make three-color laser projectors We're talking pricing in like starting at $50,000 and quickly getting up into six figures And having this true three-color laser system is going to be necessary for achieving the full quality of things like BT 2020 that's part of the HDR spec a super wide color palette with very saturated red blue screens And this is really the way to do it and I'm it's gonna be less than $20,000. I'm thinking it's gonna be closer to 15 when it comes out later this year And with the proper calibration setup on that that could be one of the very best-looking displays You could have in your home theater. Yeah for you high-end home theater people not not me, but for you Also a smart TV to because you could afford that back our patreon They do integrate smart functionality into a lot of these products now And finally I'm speaking of high-sense. I know you saw one cool high-sense technology that's that's turned some engineers heads This was crazy. They actually have a 4k screen coming out later this year And which model it is off top my head, but the cool thing about it is it's a 4k panel But they bonded a 1080p screen to the back of that very precisely with a very Well-done gap that is very even because if there's any kind of distortion there You're gonna have screwed up the whole picture But the deal is is that the backlighting system then is basically controlled by that 1080p screen Before it hits the color filter and the 4k panel itself So you end up with effectively for every four pixels on that le on the LED screen up front you've got a Pure control system for it behind it being able to use that 1080p screen to turn off the backlight completely in those areas and Overall it was just providing really good off-axis viewing in addition to just superb contrast and the local deming control even on things that are technically really challenging like curved objects like a soccer ball it once it rolled into the screen the Blooming artifacts were all but gone and it is another one of those products where it's coming sooner than later and like you mentioned all Of the big players in TV manufacturer We're we're sending teams of engineers out to actually get close up with these TVs including doing very precise measurements in very expensive gear. Wow, I mean Samsung Sony and LG I think that all sent squads Using a 1080p screen to basically be the shutter to stop the light is pretty ingenious, but it's not an easy trick It sounds no and there's no I'm a lot aware of another company doing it Although there is somebody claiming they've got something similar the key with what hyacinth is doing is that when they do the bonding process? They actually have this spherical material that is precisely Calibrated at a certain size it gets fed in between both panels the panels get pressed together Bonded and then all those beads get sucked out and it's not easy to do because it requires very precise Evenness between both layers and but having that It's a unique way to control the backlight that gets you closer and closer to per pixel control Yeah, like you have with OLED screens like four pixel control, right? And to be honest with you on an 8k screen four pixels of really or a 4k screen Four pixels are pretty tiny. Yeah, that's gonna give you supportive edge Backlight control for things like minimizing blooming artifacts and halos and other things that really are just distracting Local dipping is another one of those trends that you're seeing in a lot of these TVs as well Let's talk about some of the things Shannon has seen We talked about the area 51m briefly on Monday show, but you got up close with it Yeah, so for the past couple of days I've really been focusing on video gaming because I've been doing work with Nvidia and Alienware So that's like the only things I've seen so far So everything all of my pics are video gaming, but the Alienware area 51m. Yeah, it's a 17 inch brand-new design from Alienware and What really interested me was the fact that it's fully upgradeable and it comes with desktop parts inside this Yeah inside of a laptop and as far as I know this is the only one on the market that you can do that with you can upgrade the CPU and The GPU in this thing and it does come with the RTX 2080 Ti Which is excellent comes with tons of RAM and tons of storage on the inside as well And then it has the newest CPU options available as well But I really enjoyed looking at the design up close because the back like it still has that Alienware concept But they've really tried to influence it and make it look like sleeker than the current model like this one that I have So it has like a nice white Just a stark white backing plate to it or you can get like a just simple gray one But you can still get the RGBs as well So you have all the rainbow colors, which I thoroughly enjoy So it was just a very interesting laptop. I hear modular and I think clunky was it? It's it's big It doesn't look clunky. It looks proof. It looks sleek. It's a high-performance gaming. No, it's well I wouldn't call it a notebook even like they say it's mobile not portable. It is a desktop replacement Yeah, it's a clamshell desktop. It's a big device I read online that it weighs nine pounds, but I'm not sure if that's correct. I saw I saw 10 Yeah, so I don't I don't know if I would necessarily take it with me to like conventions and stuff because I'm a small girl And I don't want to hurt my back But this is something that you would replace the desktop with So pretty cool lighter is a protocol that's been used in other devices the you got to see the Corsair slipstream stuff That was really interesting to me, especially from like a security and privacy concept So slipstream is a wireless technology that Corsair came up with that they're going to be building into their new wireless products So like they have a mouse that's coming out this year That's going to cost 50 bucks, which is pretty inexpensive for a nice quality wireless mouse But this one it's 2.4 gigahertz But the reason why it's new wireless technology is because it does channel hopping They call it something different as far as like in interior design But the way that it works is it looks for the channel on 2.4 gigahertz wireless frequencies That has the least congestion and it'll switch to that one within a couple of milliseconds So it also lowers your latency, which is a big issue with gamers and wireless mice mice or mouses So it it helps with if you want to have wireless technology But you are also a video gamer and you care about that latency and that lag This is supposed to cut down on that I believe that it would be more secure as well Because if you put this up against like a wi-fi pineapple unless you have you know 45 different wi-fi Wi-fi pineapples and you're running on yeah, it just keeps on hopping So it would be very hard for me to control Wherever it's going and be able to follow that access point, especially if it's random. Excellent And then finally, this is not a new product, but we talked back in september about the acer throneos The big gaming chair with the multiple monitors you got to sit in one I got to sit in one. It was surprisingly comfortable and kind of scary at the same time I felt like I was in one of those like Gundam wing or something like an anime an anime about mobile suit Gundams But it's huge and the thing weighs tons of pounds You have to if you purchase one and it costs like $10,000 and it comes with everything including the pc Yeah, that's true But if you purchase one it comes in like crates and then you have to build it like it's a piece of ica furniture But it comes with like the monitors the mouse keyboard It comes with the entire case next to it and that's what you would get for 10 grand but You can change all the colors on it. It has vibration on the seat that you can sync with the video game too Right, right. It's interesting. Very cool. Very cool Uh, and then sarah, we we got to walk her out on the floor a little bit finally Yesterday, what are the some of the things that caught your eye? Well, the stuff that I always end up gravitating to is stuff that I can afford and stuff that actually makes a lot of Sense for me in in the daily life that I'm not a throneos Great exactly. Um, so yeah, uh the flexi spots Is something that I actually tried out yesterday. It's a stationary bike desk combination But it has a tiny little footprint. This is a desk that a laptop would go on you wouldn't put a desktop on top of this And it's pretty small. It's to the point where roger said, you know, I don't know It might be a little flimsy for me. Well, I tried it and it actually worked out really nicely This is something that you can just kind of be moving while you're doing your daily stuff I have this problem all the time because I'm at home So I don't really want to go to the gym because I kind of got to work And I'm not going to take my laptop to the gym and I can't really do too much stuff on the tablet when we're Preparing for the show. This is something I could put in the corner. It's 400 bucks It's available now and I I I might buy it tomorrow Another another one in the exact same vein is the walking pad. There are a few versions of this This one is actually made by Xiaomi 500 bucks. Um, it's kind of hard to find A seller online, but there's certainly quite a few reviews. It was actually announced back in september that Xiaomi would be showing off the walking pad here at ces and indeed we saw a version of this This is this is a treadmill that is just for walking. In fact, if max is at it I think like 3.8 miles per hour. So you're not even jogging, but you can briskly walk I mean if you have small plagues like I do and it sits real close to the floor You can fold it up when you're not using it and the idea would be I don't know I watch a lot of tv I don't like to feel like a couch potato, but I can go 10 hours bingeing on a show Maybe if I just unfold the walking pad and just walk while I'm watching tv Or even combine that with something like a standing desk or even a high counter A lot of us have little little counters that we have in our kitchen that that you know that That you use with with higher stools. I would totally fall down if I tried to do you might and I might too But again, this is something that's it's kind of a leisurely walking thing Instead of sitting or even standing because a standing desk. I've tried them before They're just not right for me. I kind of have to be moving or my back start turning I would buy this again 500 bucks. So it is an investment But if you think about a gym membership or walking outside where you really can't do anything on your computer while you're doing that I think it pays for itself really quickly. Take notice the dog for a walk on it I might Right. Yeah. Once he learns to skateboard, we'll get him a walking pad Excellent Anything else that that that you guys just in general impressions not things about ces Because everybody always likes to say like oh the ces is not as good as previous or it's quieter than previous or there's more stuff What what do you guys feel? Literally everything has 20 80s in them Yeah, that's my feels Robert, what about you? I think it's just I'm not seeing anything dramatically different. No, I'm a display side of things from last year It's more of a refinement of what's going on. Yeah thing more attention to The issues that were cropping up in last year's panels and even today We're seeing things in certain series of tv's that it's like why is this happening? Oh, is this also applied to the 2019 series? Yeah, and It's just good to see these companies at least focusing on those things and getting a mail down And squash so that the the person who buys this has a better experience I don't know if it was just because we went to some different stuff like we went to spoons food tech live last night Which was really fun, but Sarah and I were talking about we're we're seeing more little interesting things at least this time. Yeah, I think yeah the pizza maker Yeah, it's up to 700 degrees the pizza in three minutes. Yeah for breville. I think yeah, it was from breville This is you don't really think of that sort of thing at ces But I was like that's something that I would like in my kitchen. Yeah, absolutely He's beer maker. Yeah Like an lg pico brew, right? Yeah, there's some robotic cocktail makers. We have the soma cocktail maker We tried that out last night in the name of science. Yeah, it was just purely for review purposes Not bad. Uh, robber, we know you got to go because everybody always has to go here at ces But thank you so much for for taking some time to join us man Thank you very much. I really appreciate it If folks want to find your coverage of ces and your thoughts about that where should they go We'll be chatting it up on abxl.com in the coming weeks and I'm looking forward to getting home I need to finish my damn website robberneron.com. I actually heard fidelity.com. It all goes the same place. Yeah, exactly So heron fidelity.com abxl.com for the chatting and uh, robert man. Good to see you. Thank you very much All right. Take care man. I'm out of here. All right. Let's talk a little bit more about amd Announcing the radion 7 the first 7 nanometer gpu marketed to consumers now amd Says it should be about 25 faster than the last model at the same power consumption at its last model The radion 7 has 60 compute units speeds up to 1.8 gigahertz with 16 gigabytes of highest bandwidth memory Ananteck described the radion 7 as a radion instinct mi 50, but with a bit higher boost clock And this one's meant for consumers amd ceo lisa su showed it running devil may cry 5 and 4k at 60 frames per second It looked pretty smooth. It arrives february 7th for 699 dollars amd also announced the 7 nanometer 3rd gen horizon at three chips will start shipping mid 2019 amd ran a cinebench test at at stock frequencies that showed 30 less power draw and a slight edge in performance When you compared it to the core i9 900k so good chip news from amd keeping the competition going. Yay Yeah, I mean that's that's kind of what to say like until we actually get these Hands a contest on it. It all sounds good I'm always curious about the cpu's because as a content creator having something that's fast efficient and Very useful is important to me. I need to be able to You know render and encode my videos extremely quickly And beatmaster the chair room says e gpu fodder and that may be that may be that's an interesting thought Exactly twitter told engadget that it will choose a few thousand people to try out new features meant to make twitter more Conversational whatever that means participants will be able to share what they're trying out with their followers And give feedback back to twitter about how well these tools are working twitter will start testing the program in the coming weeks That's not vague at all. No, I am Hey, we want to be more conversational. Okay, it's already so there's I use it as a conversation. It's funny It's it's there's there's so much uh twitter has this barrier to entry thing going on and and i'm sure that's true And in fact, I know it's true for a lot of my non-technical friends. They go twitter I don't really get it Well, we all get it. So when I hear okay, we want to make this more conversational It's like, okay Well, is that a tool that's going to help me because a lot of these more conversational tools I actually find annoying which is why I don't use web twitter I use a third party application for twitter right because I I find a lot of that I don't know distracting more than anything, but twitter's always trying things out Yeah, so they're gonna try some different ways of doing threading Like if you want to have a conversation then make a little more compact So that it doesn't just populate your timeline with even with the thread that the collapse thread They're gonna do some more things to make that more efficient and a status feature where you can say i'm at c es Instead of you know, and and that just automatically pins at the top stuff like that So it'll be interesting to see I think what they come up with, you know twitter This is unrelated to this particular announcement But the company also announced that they're going to be showing the second half of nba games Which you go, you know sometimes the second half is the the most exciting half, but it's all going to be Focused on one particular player So it's like okay, that's something that I would want, but then something that I would not want It's a vote too like you vote in the first half which player will be focused on in the second half And sure if i'm watching my favorite team I probably have a favorite player and maybe i'm kind of looking for that player most of the time, but it's a it's a I'm not going to bag on the experiment before i've seen it, but it sounds like something that Is something that no one asked for it's novel. Maybe they'll like it, but nobody asked for it Bloomberg reported that samsung is among the companies with agreements to sell their phones with facebook Pre-installed and the story notes that you can't delete the facebook app when it comes pre-installed like that You can only disable it a lot of people started freaking out like so they'll be tracking me because it's facebook Well the next listening. Yeah, the next webs iven meta points out that the pre-installed app isn't the facebook app It's a placeholder manager installer stub Uh and app researcher jane wong notes that it is a non functional empty shell That doesn't collect any data. The only thing it does Is install facebook so if you disable it it basically uninstalls facebook and leaves the shell hidden But the shell doesn't do anything It sounds almost like in windows having like downloading and executable, but not actually running the executable You just leave it on your desktop. Well, it's it's even it's even less than that Yeah, because it's not there's not even an executable of facebook there. It's just it's just an installer. Yeah, basically We're deb sounds kind of like a deb too Yeah, well when it comes to facebook people tend to get a little bit out of shape when whatever something is a little bit Yeah It could be a lot of different companies and sure it it might have the the same Effect but when it's facebook people will hold on a second. I can't uninstall facebook This is they're going to be listening to my conversations Electrify america and hubject plan to roll out plug and charge functionality to more than 2000 public fast charging stations in the us by the end of the year Electric vehicles that meet iso 15118 standards can use vehicle to grid communications to authenticate and pay For a charging session just by plugging in the car with no need to use a credit card or an app Wow Yeah, that's that's going to be cool to have and the indemnus parachute for drones has been certified to let operators Legally fly over small groups of people The parachute for dji straps on to the dji drone and then deploys when the sensor detects flight anomalies The company had to pass 45 functionality tests including five different scenarios of failure To assure that it will deploy when it's needed the indemnus nexus parachute is available right now for the dji Inspired to and should come to the matrice 200 at 600 series by the end of the year Well, I still don't think you should fly your drone over groups of people just because it's kind of rude But this would be very useful for an event Yeah, exactly. Yeah, if you're like a concert organizer and you are the media for that event You probably want to use a drone to get those shots or if the people are part of the shoot and they know It's going over, you know, yeah, exactly or something Folks if you want to get all the tech headlines each day Don't forget rich truffelino has been doing the lord's work keeping us up to date in less than five minutes every day What's happening at ces go subscribe at daily tech headlines dot com All right, a couple things to explain outside of ces before we wrap up today Last year all four u.s. Mobile carriers promised to stop selling customer location data to shady companies After Securus a prison technology company was caught using the data without customer permission Well yesterday mother board reported that it was able to pay a third party $300 in order to locate a phone on team mobile's network using real-time location data from the carrier Mobile carriers sell information to location aggregators and they haven't stopped doing that They just said that they would do it more responsibly The idea is that they could then sell the anonymized aggregated data to companies who want to gain insights into general population movement They're not supposed to track individuals with that Team mobile sells data to an aggregator company called zoom ago zoom ago Sold access to the data to a company called micro built in the mother board case Micro built then sold the data to a bail bond company That shared it with a bail industry source who shared it with mother board AT&T sprint and team mobile have all said that reselling in this manner violates its contracts and policies All carriers require clients to get consent from people before tracking them and micro built says it requires That too and has terminated access for the person who passed the information to mother board And in addition zoom ago has cut off micro built's access to its data AT&T has also blocked data from going to micro built. So depending on how you look at this. It's either They are not keeping track of what happens to the data downstream close enough, which is what mother board contends or somebody who uses this legitimate like a bail bondsman would get Permission from you to say like okay. We'll put up the bail bond money if you let us track your phone We'll send you a text you would consent somebody use that with mother board without consent in order to show that it could be done Such a complicated daisy chain thing going on. Yeah, it's easy for a company to say all right Well, we're going to cut off access to this company But these are companies that most of us have never heard of yeah are not familiar with don't know who works there Who's to say you don't just make a make a new contract with another company that does something similar Until someone like mother board notices that and then we get another article about it and the thing is I don't think Some people will be not be okay with this But a lot of people are okay as long as consent is involved Like there are reasons like the bail bond thing if that makes it easier to get your bond put up Then you're like, yes, please track me. I need to be bond. I need to be bailed out Uh, but they're not putting the controls in place. It's kind of the same thing as Cambridge Analytica They're saying hey, they told us they wouldn't abuse it, but nobody was checking I agree with mother board on this. It does sound like they were very irresponsible with the data handling And I remember when this first came out the information about how uh, the all of the wireless carriers were doing this Last year and it was kind of scary to think that but you have no way as a consumer to turn that off And if it was something that you could opt into yeah, unless you just don't have a wireless phone Just go I don't know living a tiny home in the woods, right? No, it's supposed to be opt in You're not yeah, it should be but you can't stop the data from existing Exactly and that's and when it gets downstream away from the carrier, then It just kind of it puts a bad taste in my mouth the whole thing spit that out Apple CEO Tim Cook appeared on CNBC's mad money program to let people know The company will launch new services this year The most obvious service for apple to launch would be that tv service given the billions they've spent on As yet unreleased original programming and the appearance of itunes tv and movies on samsung tv's We talked about that earlier this week He also said he thought people in the future would call health apples greatest contribution to humankind And playing perhaps some kind of health related service coming down the pipe He also reiterated that the iphone 10 r has been the most popular iphone every day since launch and the apple watch And air pods bring in more money than the ipod ever did Kind of an interesting stack on a related note and a k reports its sources say apple has reduced planned production of iphone's by 10 Key one of this year We sort of beaten the the phone horse did in the past few days about what's going on there So the services thing is interesting like i i'm like great Are you going to come up with a really cool use for health kit later this year? I'm interested in that the whatever the tv services. I'm absolutely interested in that I think that the the funniest thing about this story is Sarah roger and I were walking back to our hotel and we saw tim cook on screen with the mad money logo And we're like that must be just a rebroadcast. He wouldn't be talking to mad money. Would he again? Well, no, he was right Yeah, well, so we'll obviously be following up that story During 2019 go help. Thanks everybody who participates in our sub reddit You keep our brains healthy by submitting stories and voting on others at daily tech news show reddit.com We're also on facebook if you like facebook groups, we'll have we got a group for you facebook.com Slash groups slash daily tech news show. We couldn't finish the show without checking the mail bag We got some c. Yes related emails from you. Thanks for keeping them coming folks What do we got to talk about sir? So graham who's a patreon supporter? Thank you graham wrote in about our conversation Yesterday about the motive rings addy and payment options graham says i'm listening to c s day two podcast on my morning To bride i'm in london heard you mentioned the update to add payment features to motive rings for the last 18 months I've been using daily another payment ring from curve at mykring.com It is a virtual mastercard attached to the account allows contactless payment or tap-to-tap at businesses that accept apple pay And the like it also works on the london underground and the bus network Very convenient and particularly handy during the winter months when you're all rugged up with coats and gloves that make It problematic to get to your physical wallet the curve doesn't have onboard authentication So it's exactly the same as the chip and pin credit debit card in terms of security If the ring is lost or stolen you could disassociate the connection between the ring and the card And i emailed with him because i wanted to ask him about the security function because the whole thing with the motive Is that it uses your your pulse? It uses your heart rate as your authentication, which is really interesting way to do it It's very very interesting. Yeah, this is cool. This sounds like way cooler than even the japanese system Yeah, yeah, no, this is great. Uh, so so gram even said like man if the motive comes to my market I might dump the curve for that because that's a little more secure Uh, well, thanks again to robert heron for joining us today Heron fidelity.com avxl.com and thank you shannon mars. Good to see you. Absolutely. Thanks for having me on If folks want to keep up on what you're doing here at ces and stuff, where should they go? I am doing a lot and a lot of social media stuff So, um, i'm instagram and twitter at snubs s and u b s very easy and tech thing.com We are posting videos every single day that we are here We're hoping to get at least 10 videos out during the course of the week, which is crazy But we're trying to see as much as possible. 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See you then This show is part of the frog pants network get more at frogpants.com Hope you have enjoyed this program See you guys 2019 Good show good show Good job everybody Excellent Uh, we are not sponsored by las vegas We are not sponsored by las vegas although it did provide us some delicious water product placement As nothing says las vegas like water Like the lack of water That was a good nose. You guys packed a lot. You guys packed a lot. We did that three days in a row You know, it's weird that alienware laptop reminds me of a clevo unit. They were Uh, they they've been selling to a bunch of third-tier laptops They alienware laptop clevo clevo is a ODM original design manufacturer. They make laptops that like clevo's an odm. Yeah, and they and they sell Oh, i'm sorry. That's right. I can't talk to the discord. I'm sorry talk to the video I'm sorry. We'll fix that next year. That's desktop parts of the laptop Um, I know we use something very similar at gamespot. We just lugged around these giant laptops When we had to add it in the field, there was a pain and the patukas Because they were heavy. This is 4.5 pounds Yeah, that's not too bad my editing rig. Yeah, I was editing rig. That's pretty good. I would have totally loved that I had to lug around 12 pounds including the little Power brick sounds like my very very old. I think the del latin I think the del might have been in its rock ever now Was it a latitude? Anyway, the del that I was talking about where robert gave me the usb the thumb drive Uh was probably more than five pounds. You want a fancy title? Yeah, what do we got for title alan parsons projectors? That might be too clever. That might be our that might be a generation Ahead or behind. Yeah, uh, I like it though. It's good. It's a contender. What else we got? All right, um alan parsons projectors, okay It's full of micro leds. It's full of micro leds is pretty good projectors with frickin lasers projectors with frickin lasers um Let's see, uh dji backpacking across people Backpacking across people. Well, yeah, because you strap the parachute on it's uh, basically it's a miniaturized version of a ballistic parachute That's helpful like planes Um Uh beta, uh, how do you want your tv? Your data, how do you want your tv? Yeah, oh, that's good because we cover a lot of video. Yeah But what is that play on? Uh, I don't know. I just like it because it's broad Uh, it may not be that good otherwise You choose It's your turn. All right, hold on Alan parsons. I mean, I think that's the funniest one I'm gonna vote on it. Which one alan parsons projectors alan parsons projectors. We don't get it grow up Grow old it's you don't have to grow up Really quick All right, ceo 2019 alan parsons projectors You can tell it's the last day of ceo How many have been getting a brownie? Oh, man. Yeah, I ate a brownie too. I should have Did you You know what it's funny you say that I I had the same feeling after my sugar rush died down I got a big headache because I ate the I had the soda and I had the brownie The sounds of people eating at ces brought to you by las vegas water least favorite sounds You can't stand hearing people eat. So I like we apologize, but we're very hungry The worst one is when you can hear the breathing and then the smacking of the lips Some people pick the clown stop That's what I don't like. I hate that noise. It's so gross. I bet some people like it. Like it's a thing Oh, I don't is it like is it like an asmr video? I can't get down with some asmr, but that's just too much. That's different. Yeah, like this So can you hear this thing a lot of AK? Oh wait, I should I suppose Can you hear this soothing? It feels very structured. Well, you know, they they have tech products with asmr You know, they have this they have they have asmr videos with what's the eating videos mukbang mukbang Like they have those now It's a thing people make money on it apparently Asmr tech reviews, would you guys watch asmr tech reviews if I did those tell me in the comments You'd be funny if you just did all your videos except that you would uh, uh Not close caption. You would redone it. So it just a It's a but you would try to match your lips. It's a freemium surface Shannon You get the regular review or you can pay extra to get the asmr. That can be a patreon perk The asmr level But you also need to do patrick's voice too. You have to do it like I have to do the front wire cross post in asmr No, I think I'll put that on my personal patreon account. It seems a little creepy for the threat wire. Possibly. Yeah All right Lost track of what I'm doing. Let me make sure I didn't screw it kthing.com.com slash tech thing is the place. Okay, good You were at ces 2019. Oh, yeah, it was And you were about to tell the fine viewers and listeners of good day internet A wi-fi password Okay very generous Uh, we received the code to this room, right? Yes, you did. You can get it from Roger. Don't say I'm not. No, I know you do you need it What's the person's name that we gotta try? Uh, I'm That we're live We're live We're so live Okay, well, thank you. No, I'm not gonna say it. No one will ever hear anything Roger says until he tries to say something like that And then it'll come across as crystal clear If you really wanted to break it I know That is loud. Why is that so loud? That's the asmr video I don't know why that was At the asmr It's it's a you're foleying a person walking through the snow in the winter Those are not the potato chips with the last I watched I watched this guy's asmr video And he was talking about really embarrassing things that he did when he was a little kid He was like one time I went to school But I was so scared to ask my teacher. So I poked my pants. Oh, that's terrible. What a sad story I know But it was Shannon's like, I know Thank you. Thank you, Roger Thank you. Thank you for being over there. Shannon, are these cute or are these not cute? Do you think that? I don't like them Or just like I would wear them that was like black uh, black pants. Yeah I like them. You could do a colored shirt and match one of the colors on there. Yeah They can't see what you're talking about. It's rude I'm sorry. I will uh attempt to explain. It's a it's some athletic sneakers that are white And they have sort of a almost like a hawaiian floral print on the side So they're like running shoes Floral ones I like them In these days of my advanced age I like comfortable shoes. So I'm gonna lean into Comfortable good to know thank you and colorful shoes as much as possible to replace My former heel wearing life. Dave Randolph is coming over here. Oh, we ran into him yesterday. Yeah, we saw him yesterday. Yeah Oh, yeah, uh, 230 um tom I'm publishing the show and we're live. So we can talk about that. Yeah I'm just I'm sorry. I'm gonna screw it up. And if I screw it up after we had mike issues yesterday also You're not gonna screw it up I'm gonna screw it up. Why will it not not doing it right? Sarah, why is it not doing it right? Oh, what's it not doing right? It says that the final isn't it It says the file is not there but the file is there. Uh, we'll just upload it again. That's what I'm doing We should probably say goodbye to the video folks. Thanks everybody for watching Thank you for being with us set CES