 Okay, so I know that many of you are interested in more of like a leadership position, or administrative type stuff, or basically just being a boss, you know, like there are some of us that want to kind of run things. And as a PA, you know, you are under the impression that, oh, okay, you know, we're working under a physician, you know, you got to like do what the physician is saying. And so the question was asked, like, can PAs actually like run stuff? Can they be in administrative roles and in leadership positions? Like how can they grow in their career? So that is the question I will be answering for you today. What's up, you guys? Isidana, welcome back to my channel. For those of you who are new, thank you so much for joining me today. I welcome you. Please go ahead, take a look around my channel because I have a lot to offer. This question that I'm going to be answering for you guys today is from Nadia Porter. Before I get into that though, I do want to say if you have participated in the giveaway, okay, I was doing a giveaway for my PA students. If you have participated in that, the winner will be announced later on today around three o'clock. So please, you guys be sure to pay attention to that video. It will be coming out on this channel at three o'clock today. I will be announcing the winner of the giveaway. So if you want to make sure that you are not missing out and you were the winner and you were the one that was chosen, then you better come back at three p.m. today. Okay, now let's get to Nadia's question. So Nadia said, hi, Adana. I've been taking the MD path my whole life, but ever since I learned about the PA profession a few months ago, my path is shifting. Well, welcome to the team, girl. Yeah, as she says, I really enjoy your videos and I'm leaning more PA than MD. I know that PA's must work under the licensing of a physician. I'm just wondering though, what are some ways that PA's can grow within their career? Do PA's ever take on leadership slash management roles? As this may not be important now when you first start as a PA, well, once you become a seasoned PA, let's say with 10 plus years of experience, a patient care experience, it may become important as one gets older. You may or may not have addressed this question in old videos, but I haven't really heard anything regarding this question from your videos or any other videos I've watched on YouTube yet. Thanks for your time. All right, Nadia. So lots to unpack in there and we were just going to start from the beginning. I know that you addressed the fact that you said PA's must work under the licensing of a physician. So that's not exactly true. We have our own license. We have our own licensing body. I have to be licensed. I had to get certified and then get my own Maryland license. So I work under my own license. All right, when it comes to collaborating with a physician, we do have to have collaborating physicians. So yes, there is like a physician that we're kind of collaborating that gives us like the delegation agreement that says, yes, like, you know, the PA will be able to do all of these various different things. You know, I'm going to train them to do that and they're working with me in conjunction with me. So that is like first things first. We work together with the physician. We're not working under their license per se. Okay, so I just want to clear that up. Now, with respect to can you get into management positions or leadership positions and how can you grow in your career? I mean, there's several ways that you can grow in your career and it all depends on what you want to do in the future. So there are lots of PA's that go into leadership and management positions in AAPA or like ARC PA, which is our accreditation body and just our overall body of PA legislation. So there are PA's that go into that route. There are PA's that go into leadership roles in NCCPA, which is more so like the commission for the PA's that deals with our testing and making sure that our certification is up to, you know, up to par and right. It deals with all of our like panry, which is our race certification and our pants, which is our initial certification to become PA's. And then there are PA's that are in leadership roles with respect to education and that will be in PAEA. So those are like your large educational bodies and just institutional bodies in the PA realm of things where PA's can have that leadership and management role. Now, apart from that, again, if it's if you don't want to necessarily be impatient, there are roles for that. But if you still want to be impatient and be in a leadership role, there are head PA's. So there are the PA's that are like the head of OBGYN or trauma or orthopedics or, you know, neurosurgery. And that is a leadership position. They are the main PA over all of the other PA's underneath them. They, you know, deal with scheduling and all of that stuff. They're the ones that go to upper management with any grievances that we may have or, you know, they get all of the information from upper management on how things may be dictated. And so that is another position that PA's can grow in your career. You know, as a baby PA, like me, I'm not necessarily going to be the head PA. I just started. So with respect to that, I have to work my way up to that. Okay. If that's something that I'm interested in, not something that I'm interested in, but if it were, that is what I would be doing. Okay. Another way that PA's can grow in their career and, you know, become in leadership positions is by being the head PA at that hospital. So there is a PA that is overall the other PA's at my hospital. He deals with all administrative stuff. He does not really do any like practice, like inpatient, like care stuff. It's all administrative. So lots of meetings, lots of like delegations, hiring and firing, you know, making sure that are, you know, what we're able to do is up to date, making sure that our credentials are up to date, all of that stuff. And so all of just like the sitting down behind the desk and being a boss type of stuff, that is what he does. So there are opportunities for that, you know, just kind of like how there are like nurse educators and things like that that are circulating through the hospital. He pretty much does the same thing. You know, he's there and he's making sure that all of our, all of the PA's underneath him that work in the hospital are right and tight. Okay, that we are doing what we need to do and we're making, he's making sure that all of the things that we may be interested in or may have a problem with, like he's the one that we bring it to and he talks to all of the other like attendings or leaders in the trauma team and emergency medicine team and all of the other areas that PA's are working. He's our advocate. So that is a way like inpatient, I guess you could say that PA's go into leadership. Another way that PA's go into leadership is through PA education. So if you are interested in PA education, you can become a professor at a PA school or, you know, a professor at any school, however you want to do that. That is a way that you can, you know, mold the fresh young minds that are coming up underneath you. Also, you can be a program director. And so lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of PA's that are, you know, continuing to be, I guess, more seasoned, I guess you could say, have been working inpatient or even outpatient but direct patient care for a long period of time have transitioned into the more education sector of things. Sometimes they still do a little bit of inpatient stuff on the side just to keep their skills up to date. But a lot of them are in education and so they become program directors. They become professors. I know that there are some PA's that are actually like directors of facilities. So they are directors of like free clinics in various different states and cities. And so that's another way. But there are lots of ways, Nadia, that you can actually become a leader and you can grow in this PA career. And if there's a way that you haven't heard of or that you're interested in, just carve that way out. I know that it may be difficult or it may be a long road or a hard, but, you know, we're yelling and we have time to do that. So you can make your own path as the PA profession continues to get more and more and more traction and more people learn about it like through, you know, YouTube, like this channel that you guys have subscribed to to help my YouTube algorithm out or through Instagram. We have a nice, you know, YouTube and Instagram community about PA's out there or LinkedIn or whatever. You know, hopefully we get some news, traction, whatever it may be as more and more PA's become known. The profession is going to go further and there are going to be more opportunities for us to even have more leadership roles and carve our own path out. So I am very much, I guess you could say hopeful for the future, but there are lots of ways right now at the moment that you can become a leader. Okay? So hopefully that answered your question. 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