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Wow, wow, you won't regret it, man. Listen, man, hey, man, I got a guy in here today, y'all. This guy right here, man, ever since we started, man, he always shows love. He always come through and check on us, man. The OG for me, I already tell y'all the ones that I figure, I say, hey, that's my OG. Like this guy right here was in the game when I came in the game. And every time people are like, how y'all know him? How y'all getting him, man? Sean Cotton is in the building. Man, boss talk 101 was good. Man, what a boss is talk. We still here, man. Yeah, we here, man. I shoulda came, I was supposed to come back, I was supposed to come like three months ago. Yeah. But you know, life, life. Man, I get it, bro. Like I got a partner, like I always talk about Taylor. Gabriel, he used to always tell me, man, OG. And I always remember this when I deal with certain people. He like, man, when I was in the league, he retired now, but he played for Chicago. He was in the Super Bowl with San Francisco. No, not San Francisco, with Adelaide and Falcons. And when they played, who did they play that? I think it was Tom Brown, I was mad about that. That was my cup, cause my boy was in there. You gotta realize Taylor in there, he playing with Julio Jones. So I'm like, damn, you know what I'm saying? But anyway. 28 to three. He always used to tell me, he say, man, no, he came back. There was some big comeback. Patriots came back. Patriots came back hard. 28, they were down 28, three. Three, sure was. I was so upset. In Houston. I was mad. But that's my boy. But he always tell me, he say, man, OG, man, you and your wife, man, he been coming there since we kid, he say, man, when I was busy, y'all always understood. Y'all never, when I didn't call back, y'all wanted to talk to people to give up on me. And he thanked me for that on this show. You know what I'm saying? That's crazy, right? Because that's the way I am. Like when I think about you, I know you'd be busy. I always tell you that. So I don't be tripping on it. He didn't pick up. You don't never had to worry about it because I'm like, hell, I should be more like you. I've been figuring that out. You're- And I've been working on that too. You know, I just recently had like three homies pass. So you never know when it's gonna be the last time you talk to somebody. So I'm really trying to do better at like not overworking. Because we get so caught into working, trying to keep up with yourself, trying to keep up with your peers. You don't want people saying you fell off. So you're always work, work, work. I'm just trying to do better with really just checking on my friends, seeing that people are okay, checking on family. And I feel like that goes a long way. Just when you randomly call people and they know that, you know, you're on their mind. And not only that, just build memories. Build memories. Because at the end of the day, that's one thing I've learned a long time ago whenever I lost my dad is, that's what I have to hold on to now. It's all the memories. You know what I mean? The pictures and memories. Take as many pictures as possible. Exactly. Videos. Videos, pictures. You hear their voice. All that. So- Man, I definitely like, I seen you at the funeral, man. Big D, man. We lost a real one, man. Like, when I was my last, my last live, I did actually. And I hadn't did one way before that. But I was talking about, you know, one day you're here and then you're gone, like the next day, me and Big D talked the day before. You know, I know you and him talk like a lot. Y'all talk the day of? He was on his way to my house. What? Because my other, our other friend, Young Street, he's a rapper out here. He died six days before him. Right. So, Big D called me the day before, because he couldn't make his funeral because he had an interview scheduled for Orlando Brown. Correct. So, he couldn't make it. He already booked it, plane, hotel. So, he asked me if he wanted to go to the wake. And I was like, yeah, like, let's go. And it's crazy because that day, we were talking about death, funerals, like just talking about it. And then the next day, I called him at 9 a.m. Like, yo, we still going to the wake? He said, yes, I'll be there at one. Then I get home because my girl was making gumbo. And she was like, you want me to make Big D a plate? I said, I said, yeah, I'm about to go take a shower. He's on his way. Swear to God, I'm about to get in the shower, expecting Big D to come. I take off my shirt. I'm about to get in the shower. My homie, Fat Boogie called me and was like, Big D gone, like real fast. I'm like, Big D, no, he on his way over here. He was like, Big D, no, Big D gone. Like, what? Bro, nah, I just talked to him downstairs. So it's just like that. And it's, I've never, it was like a movie because it's like, we were just talking, not 24 hours before we were just talking about death, funerals, like all type. Like it was weird. And then 24 hours, 12 hours later, he wasn't here. Like, and he's supposed to go with me to the wake. Him, his wife, Colton and me. It was like, I still haven't shed a tear because it's like, it's not real. Yeah. It seems like a movie. Yeah. Like even when I seen him, I'm like, I'm blinking like, bro, it's not real. Bro. Like it's gonna take me a while. Like he was on his way to my house. Like that, four days before that, I had like a three hour conversation with him. He had so many plans. You talked to him like, I'm so many plans. Like he was going crazy. He always talked about that. He always talked about it. His kids, his wife, like put me on, like I've been in the game for 10 years. He teaching me shit about YouTube. I'm like, who the fuck, like we giving each other a game. He was on his way to my house, though. I can't make this shit up. And he wasn't ill or anything like that. Cause he always walking. He always doing stuff. He's like, he was always bigger guy. He played him in that fair before too. But he's not overweight. He wasn't overweight, but you know, you know, it was family stuff, you know, chest pains and stuff like that. I know his voice when he came over here, he had interviewed the OG. That's the first time we talk about that me and him. His voice started giving him problems. The first time. No, you could hear him in his interviews. Go back and listen to his interviews. Remember when his voice changed? His voice was changing. It started here when he had interviewed Artola Marv and them guys here with me. Wow. And from that day, and even when he went to get diagnosed, he called me so excited, leaving the hospital or leaving the doctor's appointment to tell me it wasn't cancer related. Cause he was worried about that. He would talk to me about this, bro. So he had like, he had like a... He had this, this, this issue with his voice. Okay. That he could not figure out how to get rid of it. Cause he was almost horse out one time. Yeah. Even on your interview. Yeah, he was. Yeah. And he couldn't figure it out, but we would talk about that. And I wouldn't talk about it if he was still living to be honest with you. But intimately we would talk about that, about it. We celebrated when it wasn't cancer. On the phone, I was like, man, I was, I ain't gonna say what I would say, but me and him would talk about a lot of stuff. You know? And that's what was key for me. And he helped me with so many things on Boss Talk. Like without him, I would not have this platform where it was where it went. I'm telling you. I know that because she know how it was about him. He stopped talking to me one minute. I was mad at him. Cause he didn't talk to me. And I was like, what the hell wrong with him? I tried to take him with me to the ice tea interview. I was like, man, you gotta fight with me, man. You gotta come. Cause they said I could bring one more person. You know what I'm saying? They said I could bring another person. I want you to come do one with him. But he never answered the phone. And he wouldn't answer for about what? About two weeks? Then after that, he started back answering. Now I got on him about it. He never told me why he stopped answering. But he never did that again. You know what I'm saying? It was never like with him. Like, you know, a lot of these media guys are like in secret competition. With him it was never that. Like when he first told me he was, when he first told me he was about to start doing interviews, I would do it. Like I would go on his platform, just to vent. Like that was my guy. But with him it was never like, you know, like secret competition. He would always tell me ways to how to make more money. Like we were talking about earlier. Just little, like, just little things. Like, and I would give him a game. He would give me game. And it's just sad cause he, the last upload, the last upload on his channel was his new show. Yeah. And I mean. I'm being real sued. He sent me his, like the last payments was his biggest payments. He sent them to me. The last one. Y'all remember? Yeah, he sent it to me. He was like, yeah. He was happy about it. What them looks like, he giving me the, you know, look what I'm doing. And I was loving that because people don't realize, man, that motivation to say, if he could do it, I could do it. Exactly. And that's how I was looking at it. It was always, man, I got to text him. Man, could grab both of his numbers. He would call me and it was like, that was big for me. That's why when it happened, I ain't want to talk to nobody. I got to not just count distance in myself because I really didn't feel is no more for a second. Just for a quick glimpse, bro, like, this is crazy. He kept calling everybody like, is this true? Is this real? Because he saw you. You the one, I seen it on your post because I mean, you follow each other. And I was like, man, this can't, but I know if it's coming from you, it has to be true. Bro, that shit like. And nobody knew. Everybody who was calling was like, no, no, no. Nobody knew. Yeah, that shit's real. Like, and he, like I said, he was on his, I'm expecting by the time I get out the shower, he'd be calling me or he'd be honking outside. And you get, like, you just got to understand, like, and then I didn't even believe it because my homeboy had called me. So I'm in the shower. I was, I just got out the phone. I still got in the shower because I didn't believe it. When I'm in the shower, I look at my phone and it says big D name on it. So I'm like, oh man, he's still alive. I pick up the phone. It was his wife. Damn. And that's how it kind of sounded. That's how I knew, like, what, like, y'all, and she was like, I just, you know, we were supposed to, I just know, you know, you were expecting us to come to, I was like, like, what? What? Like, and they say, don't question God, but it's just like, man. Yeah, that was, that was a tough one, man. For me, I don't know, like, that in this world we in, I know you've seen it more than me, but he was close because when it came to information and the grind and, you know, just me linking with you and feeling comfortable about how I do my interviews. And he was one of those guys that I relied on. And I can say that I'm gonna miss him a lot because I really don't rely on a lot of people, bro. I'm really, right? We just kind of stayed ourself, bro. And it's like, that was that one that really, really kept me making, you know, helped me to go through. You know what I'm saying? But it's all good, man, like I said. And you know, when you say, you know, don't question God, you know, as I got older, I learned not to because I ain't gonna get the answer anyway. Exactly. So, I just be like, you know what? In my mind, everything happens for a reason. And how I look on everybody's life is, everybody's life is a lesson. What did I need to learn from his life? What attributes did he do in this world that I need to keep carrying on? Like, what does he normally always say? What does he normally always do? That's how you keep a person's legacy going is by using whatever that they did and implemented into your life and keep it going. You know what I mean? Because everything happens for a reason. Exactly. And that is funeral, you know, what I took away from it is just like, none of the material shit matters. Like we wear the chains and all the BS, like that we glorify at its funeral, it was nothing but memories. What I said for people. That's really what matters. Like nobody at your funeral is nobody's gonna talk about the material stuff. Like, oh, this is just for marketing things of that nature, but it's all about how do you affect people? How do you help people? Yeah. And that's what I really took from it. That's why I said earlier, like, working so hard, I just need to kind of stop working so much all the time and sometimes just reach out to people and see how people are. That's real. Man, we're gonna talk about a few things today, man. Just had the RIP to a big deal. The RIP, man. 99 overall, like, that's your company. What's the, when you think about that company, you've established something that nobody, I don't think nobody in the Dallas area, I hadn't seen it, me, but I don't know a lot. It's just good to see you getting into that lane. What all does it cover? 99 is a distribution company. It's like sports. I got a youth team. We ranked top 25 in the national eighth grade basketball team. Wow. Yeah. And they're from here. Like, they're a Euless area. Duncanville, Cedar Hill, Arlington, McKinney, Frisco. But we're top 25 in the nation. But really, just 99 overall is just music-based. It's sports-based. It's like a branch off from Say Cheese. Wow. Did you? I didn't know they could do sports in distribution. I always thought distribution, when I hear about distribution, I only think about music. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, 99, I have 99 distribution and then I have 99 overall sports. So it's the same name, but just two different entities. Okay. Yeah. Wow. And like, who are the, you still dealing with some of those, whether it be NFL players or... I was working with Artirio Morris, but I no longer work with him. He went to Kimball actually. Okay. And he just, man, he transferred to Kansas and caught a rape case. What? Yeah, he's from Dallas. He was supposed to go to the league and everything. Okay. Are you gonna be looking into others or are you? Oh, yes. A lot of talent out here. I don't know if people would like realize, but like the DFW area is like the, it's like the new bed for like basketball. Like you got, it's like five players from Dallas that just went to the league, to the NBA. And then, you know, football's always been a Texas thing. Correct. So of course, it's a kid, it's a kid that goes to Oklahoma State. He's from here. His name is Oli, Oli Gordon. He leads the, he leads college in Russian yards, Oklahoma State. So I'm trying to, you know, got to meet with him pretty soon. He's definitely NFL bound. So yeah, I'm definitely, the sports thing is, it's a lot different from the rap thing. Yeah, he likes it a lot better. Yes, it's politics in everything that you do, but you don't gotta worry about, you know, what comes with the rap shit, the ops, the killing, the sliding. Man. Yeah, football, basketball is way different. Mark Cuban sold the Mavericks out here. I seen that. Yeah, he got off of them and he made money off of it, too. Man, like, he bought it from 285? Yeah, yeah. And he sold it for like four billion. Yeah. That's crazy, bro. But he built that brand, though. That brand wasn't a brand like how it is with him. Exactly, like he was a young owner. Players wanted to play for him. They won a championship. He's really hands on with the team. And then, like, he's real youthful, you know what I'm saying? Like, he'll go do an interview with, you know, he'll go do a real live if he did. So, I mean, a lot of players like that, they want to come play for him. And he still has control of the operations, I think, that he didn't really sell. He sold the majority stake, but he still has operations. Correct. I would think he would, because he's a smart business. Exactly. He's not going to scape rid of all of it. Oh, no. But he left Shark Tank, too. It was like, what's really going on? Like, things are changing. And I'm going to tell you something I always say, and I've been saying this lately, is a lot of times they figure it out, and you may even have it figured out, a lot of times running this business and doing things that I've done over the past, I did not get in and project getting out. I should have projected, this here has run its course, it's time to move into this. You see where I'm coming from? That little space period there when I look back is a thing where I was like, man, I probably should have did this. I'm thinking about Toro Store and stuff like that, like I should have got off a little earlier because there wasn't no need to keep going when we didn't really, we weren't even doing nothing. We just, just cause we used to doing it. We're successful, but we could have been more successful to change it up a little bit. So a lot of times we stay on stuff too long. So when I hear you say, yeah, I might be retiring out of the rap. Man. Yeah. I mean, you just gotta look at it like. I'm getting out of the music, I'm moving on. But you know why it is? Because people get so sentimental values. People get so caught up on, oh, that's my baby. You know what I mean? Not thinking about it, cause most successful business people think about it. That's just a dollar right here. So move on to something as they don't get emotionally attached to anything. Exactly. No, I feel that. And this is like we're rap, like, I don't know, man. Like who, I don't know. The rap shit is just, it ain't been the same. I don't want to say rap is dead, but. Hip hop dead again? No, it's a rap is in a really, really weird space right now. It's weird. It's the lyrics that everybody rapping now? I mean, who's the last artist that became a multi-millionaire rapping about ops and killing people and there is no money in that. Like I just want to tell artists, like it's no money in drill rap. Like you got to really make records now. Tell your story. That's why I don't think there will ever be another a mode three out of Dallas. You don't think it'll never be another? I don't see it. I don't see it. Not in your generation. And I'm not saying that, yeah, not in this generation. I just don't feel it. I feel like, you know, if you look at what's popping right now, it's nobody telling stories. It's nobody, it's everybody really talking about the same thing. Nobody's vulnerable. Nobody's talking to women in their records. Nobody's putting hooks on their records. I ain't gonna say nobody, but just what's being promoted right now is not really no staying power. Lyrically, you just say mode three was probably one of the best to do out of Dallas. Yeah, it would never be another mode three. And that's not the, you know, there's a lot of talent out here. There's a lot of talent in every city, but I just think we need to get back to really, and a lot of people blame me too. You know, a lot of people blame me Oh, Sean, you promote this and you, you know, you're the reason, you're the reason for this. You're the reason for that. But is this time that we change with the time? Yeah, I agree, man. Like, I agree that you've seen this thing and I just know that the good, you can't have a negative without a positive if you crank it in vehicle, okay? So everything not gonna be hunk of door. Everything not gonna be just, you know, and I think you did maneuvering, you did what you had to do, you know what I'm saying? I appreciate you for always putting boss talk one on one. Let's just get on that right there, you know what I'm saying? I appreciate you for pulling up on boss talk, man. What do you think about Honeycomb Braze? Let me ask you this, Honeycomb Braze is out. I'm gonna get off this rapper. Honeycomb Braze got out and when he got out, something I see, not just Honeycomb Braze, all these niggas is getting out. Your celebration getting out is something people watch, you know, on the internet, right? Like, if you don't get out right, you know what I mean? Niggas like he ain't gonna be all right, you know, like Rollo, when Rollo come out. Niggas come out is serious, you know? Am I right? Do you see that? Like I see it, like if you don't, like if you had somebody getting out, you gotta go there with a jet or something. You gotta, you gotta. It's crazy, bro. Why though? I don't know, I think it's one of the things to celebrate and I don't know, bro. I don't understand that whole thing with marketing, but I feel like when you get out of jail, you do have to come out with a banger because the internet moves so fast, people will forget. Like the Rollo had his moment, now they're gonna move on to Honeycomb Braze and then they're gonna forget him and then they're gonna move on to the, so I just feel like. Go yeah over to come on. Go yeah over. I'm waiting to see whatever. See what I'm saying, it's tough because people will scream free, you free, you free you and then only support you for a month and then when you get out, you all knows. Is it only for the young kids though? No, Twisted Black came out, I watched him too. I was about to say, Twisted Black came out, he didn't come home in no jet, he didn't come home in no, nothing big. All that matters is what I'm telling you, Honeycomb Braze come home in a truck, what a sheriff dropped him off and like, okay, what are we gonna get from this? Like we're here at the internet substation waiting, right, to say, what are we gonna get? Okay, what he's gonna do next? Am I right? Yeah, I mean, he dropped two of them. I heard that banging too. Yeah, that went trending, but. One of them went to the sky, one of them went crazy. Yeah, the first one went crazy, but you know, he's on the blogs right now going crazy. I guess he's into it with Jay Prince. Because he didn't, yeah, because he said he didn't pick him up in no, in nothing like Pimpsy got picked up and all that sort of stuff. Wait a minute, when you say Pimpsy, that's why you mess up with me. Y'all watch the show. He said he better than Pimpsy. That's why I did not feel it. And I got a text from allegedly, speculated to be him, sent it to me, saying, you know, these niggas out here don't know, I supported Pimp, and it's a letter that he had been writing about Pimp. But you cannot play with Pimpsy when it comes down to Texas. And he's a legend. And when it comes down to music, I'm not saying you might be literally better. Do you think he's better? Do you think he's better than Pimp? No, that's a package. I don't need to think. That is a package. Yeah, no, I don't, and I think you can't really compare it to me. Two different times, two different, talking about two different, I don't know. I think Pimpsy, like you said, the whole packaging, just, I mean, I don't know. On a rating from one to 10, how hard is Honeycomb to you? About a seven and a half, eight. I like Honeycomb because he telling his story. Like, anybody telling their story, I can't hate on it. I mean, he not the best rapper that I heard, but he decent. I like Honeycomb. Cause it's real. I know it's real. When I did my interview with him, he was talking to him, you could just feel it. The energy. Like it's just, you know, mm. Wow. I feel the same way. I think- Like he shot his own cousin. He paralyzed his own cousin, I think. He hard. Like, he hard, to me it's just, it's authentic. Yeah. When Honeycomb was just authentic. But saying you better than Pimp is like- You messed up with that one. You gotta give us some more hits for that. So you think he's just doing that just for the cloud, right? Yeah, he just gonna, he working the internet. Like, like, you know, he playing on the internet. You know what he doing? He know the blog is gonna pick it up. He doing it right. Wow. Do you get tired of seeing that? The way how cloud has become such a thing where people are going like to the extremes just to get exposure and everything. Cause even when you look at- He started a lot of- When you look at what T.I. When you look at what T.I. and his son is going through and what he did at the game, you're like, okay, is that something? And then I look on Facebook and see his older son have an album or a record coming out. So I'm like, is that for that? Or is that real? Or is that- They should never know. Bro, they should never know. You have to question stuff now. Bro, they should never know. Tim for the drop too. It's tough. You these days, you never know, bro. Like everything's so internet. Like it's crazy. Like with it, I remember eight years ago, it was like 50% street, 50% internet. You had the street niggas on Facebook. They wasn't blogging. Nowadays, everything's so advanced. Everything's so fast. Everything's super internet. Like you don't know what's really not these days. So. Wow. Man, you brought Rain want to say Big Yevo fell off. Do you think he fell off? Big Yevo? Yes. He gone. Just because you fall off don't mean you can't bounce back, but I definitely think people get tired of the three minute rap songs. No hook, just straight rapping through. Now, is Big Yevo a good rapper? Yes. But at certain times you gotta elevate. It's levels. You gotta elevate and it's just like, I mean, like I told you before the internet, it's about are you entertaining outside of the music? Are you opinionated? What do you like to eat? Are you going live? People want to see that from you. After a while, doing all them same song straight through, it just get boring after a while. You're not really telling us anything. You know what I'm saying? Just rapping, just rapping? No, we don't see rappers like that. We'll never pack out arenas. Wow. And this, you tell me one rapper who can make a record to, and these are great, good rappers. They just don't know how to make songs. They're great rappers, but they don't know how to make records, real records that are gonna get played on the radio that can, that any demographic can listen to. They, that straight through rapping shit is dead. You're not gonna make money like that for a long time. ESTG did it for a minute and it just, it gets old. You have to make records. It's levels. And you know, a lot of them Fort Worth cats, great, good rappers can rap. Rap like they say Big Yabo, Sto They Style, whatever. Yeah, yeah, I heard that. But all that shit is the same shit. None of them have millions of dollars off music because they're not good records. They don't make you feel no type of way. Music is how I make you feel. Does it make me want to get some money? Does it make me sad? Does it make me happy? Does it make me, you something saying? Yeah. Does it motivate me to get out the bed in the morning to make money? That music doesn't make you feel. Music is about feeling. You something saying? Yeah. That's why sauce Walker starting to get his flowers now. People didn't like sauce in the beginning because he was super, people hate when rappers say that you still in a style and you try to take credit for everything. So in the beginning, people didn't like sauce because he was coming at everybody's favorite rapper, Drake Young Thug. But now if you go listen to sauce Walker's records, it's soulful, make you feel some type of way and make you want to, a lot of these rappers, I know I'm rambling right now, but Big A Bo was like, if I listen to one of his songs one time, I don't want to go back and listen to it again. Sauce Walker shit has the soul in it. You want to go back and listen to it. It may, he's talking about shit in it. He's talking about real life shit that's going on in the hood every day that anybody can relate to. A lot of these niggas shit are relatable. He just talking good, good talking shit, but it ain't nothing. Yeah. You know what I'm saying, it's empty calories. Yeah, Big A Bo, like I said, I really didn't get a lot of people said, oh, he, he gets to plug, you know, and people gotta stop. They try to compare him to Big A Bo. Yeah, but people, not to cut y'all, people gotta stop putting Big A Bo on the island because he's not, it's 20 rappers I can name that fell off because they couldn't, why we putting Big A Bo out there like that? Yeah, that's real. We can't put him out there by himself like that. A lot of these cats don't know how to make records and it's not just Big A Bo. So, you know, everybody saying Big A Bo, I seen it live when, you know, Rain Boy, he said it on here too. I was like, yeah, man, what made him pick Big A Bo? Yeah. And it's just like a lot of people that fell off, man, and it's like, cause y'all aren't making good records and I'm not here to call nobody out because everybody is only one song away still from millions of dollars. It only takes one hit. But from the look of it is, they're all doing the same thing. It's no real creative process going on. I gotta talk about, go ahead. Okay, so recently, did you see where D1 Music went in with Rick Ross on his music? Not only Rick Ross, but also Jim Jones and... Who else was it? Oh, on Meek Mill. And Meek Mill's saying that all about their lyrics, right? Y'all have become a place where you don't have to be rapping about drugs, money, just that whatever. How are you feeding these young minds in a positive way? Do you think that he has a valid point? What are you saying that they're too like negative or? Yeah. I mean... Lyrically. Cause he also went in on Lil Wayne before and on Jay-Z before on the same issue. Yeah. I think all these niggas talk about foul shit in their music. I think, I mean, yeah, he has a point, but I mean... But you got the internet now. Kids are gonna listen to what they wanna listen to. You see what I'm saying? And it's like, you rap some positive shit, they're gonna say you fell off or that shit's wet, but you go in there and say some negative shit. Look, on my say cheese platform, I posted a 13-year-old kid graduated high school in college that did like 1,300 comments. But I posted about the Memphis murder rate and that shit did 3,000 comments. People engage more with the bullshit. That's right. People engage more with the bullshit. I can interview somebody right now. That's a CEO with boss. I can interview boss talk. I can interview y'all right now. Not saying y'all not lit, but it's gonna do a certain number. Let me go interview a fucking Nate Boone, a fucking serial killer. It's gonna do millions of views. We gravitate to bullshit. So it's just like, yes, we blame the rappers, but the rappers is just feeding it to what the fans want. You know what I'm saying? It's kind of like a Kes 22 to where it's like, I get it cause I'm not, I get it. Like I get it. I get what D1 is talking about. But it ain't gonna change, man. This has been happening. D1 ain't the first person to come out and say, hey, I'm getting certain things when it comes to material being spoken on in rap. And people are still gonna do their music. I think that's a part of it. I think you need to yin and yang to keep this thing going. I really do look at it on an over level like that. You gotta help both. But because you have so much of that negativity, I know you can try to find positive music, but it's like this little compared to, you know what I mean? Yeah, I get it. So it's like, it needs to be a balance. There are artists out here that don't rap about violence, you know, currency, Larry June. It's a lot of good rappers out here that are kicking some cool play shit. You know what I'm saying? It's just all about people be wanting to hear that shit from certain people and that's not they bring. You know what I'm saying? You're not gonna go listen to Chief Keith and Lil Durk and have them talking about positive shit. That's not their brand. But there are artists out here that have a positive brand that y'all can go listen to. Both fans don't think they're cool enough. People want the cool rappers to talk about the good shit and that's not where, I don't know. I didn't make up the rules, man. I didn't make up the rules. I seen on Trio Talk, you know, Peer Talk I seen about Rob Wave taking Lil' Fats. Lil' Fats. He said Lil' Fats is on some Lil' Fats songs and Booses really. I seen the Booses, but I seen on there he was saying Lil' Fats. Like, do you think that it's cool? Do you think that I'm gonna bring the Boosie part up but these people are going back finding these people have said certain things that they said in songs. Right. Is that, are they parallel and it's too close cause people say stuff, people go make platforms, do all this type of stuff. It's the thin line between copyright infringement and really it's that person's art. What do you think about it? Man, it's crazy. Wayne did it. Wayne did it a few times. Jay-Z did it to Biggie. Like, I don't know. Boosie did it. Broadway posts Boosie do it. And I just interviewed Boosie's brother. I seen that. Yeah, I interviewed him again about the situation. It's crazy. And he said, well shit, Boosie performed, one of Boosie's biggest songs that he performs at all of his shows are one of them records where he recited somebody's lyrics. Really? And he don't pay them, they publishing. So, like you said, it's a real thin line between that. It's a thin line. Is it copying or is it reciting? Is it paying homage? Well, when you think about it, why has Boosie now all of a sudden, is it because of the fact that maybe he's going through something, he ain't got cases, he got stuff going on. I heard stories about selling masters and all kinds of stuff like, what's going on? I mean, is this the, is it just, is it a reason behind it, is what I started to ask myself, like why is this now all of a sudden a big deal? You know what I mean? What Kodak? Everybody, they all getting it. You know what I mean? You have to go through and filter through what you will. I mean, Boosie do it too. So I don't understand like, why are you tripping? Boosie does it too. Boosie has done it. It's multiple records where Boosie is reciting somebody's lyrics, sampling somebody's song and performing it at his shows. They should be getting publishing. Publishing, I forgot what it's called, but when you recite somebody's lyrics at your show or sample their song at your performance, they're supposed to give it, it's for like the BMO like publishing or some shit. Man. So it's like, you doing the same shit? It's crazy. I got a question. So what are your views on Lil Nas X doing a Christian song? Lil Nas, they did a Christian song? He did it. He did speak out about that the other night. Man. Where did this question come from? I don't know, man. That's crazy. I be thinking, is he really gay or is that a gimmick? I think that's gay. I think it's a gimmick. Is he, they said he had a Nicki Minaj fan account. Bro, listen. I don't believe you mean he's serious, bro. I really, but it's because you never know in these days and times, you deal with some of the craziest things, you know what I'm saying? Even when I just look at like all the stuff, I watch your show a lot, right? I seen you, one thing I see in me and me, and Big D spoke about this too. You went live. No, you didn't go live. You went, you posted Charleston White and y'all streamed it. It did a million right at like as soon as you posted. And I was asking him, like what's the benefits of that? You know what I mean? Like, did that help you or did that hurt you? Cause I be looking at numbers. Me and him talking numbers. Me and Big D I'm talking about. He was like, no, I don't think, I think that's the best way to do it. But I'm like, do we get paid? Cause they, they turn, me and this other dude talk and he do it all the time. Shout out to Crisco. You don't, it turns yellow is what he told me until they, you know what I'm saying? Until they, You don't get advertised me from live streaming. I don't think. You see what I'm saying? There's no ads during that time. So did you, did you like doing it that way? Or did you regret doing it that way? I regret doing it that way after Big D told me. That's what I'm saying. Big D was like, why are you streaming? You don't get paid around that time. I said bad, but it does help. The, the premier does help the subscribers know what's coming soon. So we get to early boosting views to help the momentum go up in your viewership of the video. If I'm making sense. So it was really just like a promotional tool, but money wise, it doesn't help you. So it's good to probably do it every night again, but it's not all the time. It's good to do it if you got like a big interview or like something you really like, something that you like, that you take, you know, something that you like. I feel like it's good to do, but money wise, nah. Not a good one. Hell nah, do every video over eight minutes. See what I'm saying? And see, that's free game. That's why we got, we got you in here because you, you know, like I said, I respect everything that you are. You are the biggest, you are the biggest to me, the biggest in the South when it come down to what we do here in our region for show by far. And one of the dopest, you know what I mean? I already know the podcast. I'm going to ask you about the podcast. I got a podcast coming, it's going to be fucking crazy. What's the name? Angry, the Angry Oncles. That's you changed it. I changed it. Why'd you change it? Because instead of being, you know how, you know now when you say things that people don't like, they call you an old head. Yeah. Washed up. Yeah, yeah. So we just, I just wanted to get clever and just come up with the Angry Oncles. So is there going to be multiple, we used to own cools. It's not going to be the same. Multiple guys on there talking. Yeah, it's going to be multiple guys, but I'm never going to have the same lineup. It's going to be the homies or, I may have you on there one day. What's wrong with clean sweep? I like clean sweep too, but. No, I like the Angry Oncles. You like Angry Oncles? It's a little more grit to it. It's more catchy. It's more catchy. It's more catchy. Yeah. Little more grit to it. People are going to wonder like, what are they talking about? Yeah, it is just whatever. Names mean a lot, but it really don't mean. Well, it initially means something for the people to grasp to it. I see what the say cheese, the dope jewelry. Listen, man. I don't give a fuck about none of this shit. Hold on, but we got to talk about something like, say cheese is, you see, say cheese, we have to equate that to Sean Codd. Me and Big D talked about this, so I got to bring it up. And I asked stuff now that I probably wouldn't ask if you still in, because we talk about stuff and see. But do you feel like, like when you see the say cheese versus the Sean Codd and brand, you see Adam 22 them, they do no jumper, but you see DJ Vlad, you see DJ academics. I do ever think about sometime the building of your brand versus the building of your name. Yeah, I tried to hide myself. You see what I'm saying? In the beginning, I tried to hide myself for so long. No, I didn't want people to know me at all. I wanted to hide myself. I wanted the brand to speak for itself. I wanted whatever we posted to not feel like it was my opinion. Like I really tried to hide from it, but it was just unavoidable over time. People start finding out who I am. And then, you know, to say cheese brand is bigger than the Sean Codd brand, but that's how I wanted it to be for a very long time until now it's kind of like you gotta, people want to hear you, you know what I'm saying? And it's like, I don't know, but yeah. But for you to, I mean, I think you camouflage it long enough, you know? Now it's time for him. I think at some point it's time for the Sean Codd brand to flourish, you know what I mean? I got a show coming with academics too. What? Oh, really? Get out of here. You ain't even did an interview with him, have you? We're about to, so, cause he drinks a lot. So it's hard to get in, but... Cause you don't drink a lot, do you? I don't drink at all. I don't think I've never drunk before or smoked. And I wasn't interested to. I'm scared to do that shit. I don't know why I'm just scared to smoke and drink. I don't know why. So don't do it then. Maybe I feel like I can't like... You can't hold it. Maybe like, I'm scared to like it. I'm scared... Do you have an addictive personality? I think I'm addicted to sports bed. Every day I got a bed. Even if I don't know the teams, I gotta like, throw something at it. Wow. I wanna go back to DJ academics though, cause that's a big one. Yeah, so you see the Ocho Cinco in San Francisco, we about to do the same shit. Y'all gonna kill it? Yeah. Like once a week, just talk about everything. Is it gonna be virtual? It's gonna be virtual. So when you gonna start? Whenever he stopped drinking. But he hit me, he texted me two weeks ago. He said, hey, I'm about to go to London. As soon as I get back, we're going. So I'm really waiting on, I'm not, well, I'm waiting on him, but I'm still doing my own thing. You know what I'm saying? I got an interview with him, man. I supposed to get that in. Me and AD talk a lot now, you know? I really, Charles and White and us getting into it, made it to where now we, me and AD them been on here twice. And Charleston never came back here, huh? Well, we never did get him back. We didn't, we decided to cut our ties. I just put it like that. But I see y'all doing crazy numbers. So I don't drill. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Charleston is my God, man. Y'all been doing y'all things. So I can't, I listen. There is nothing wrong with the culture and the hustle. One thing about us and one thing about me, I've always, the hustle, when I see your hustle, it mean more to me than the individual most of the time. People don't realize that. I can see like the COVID shot. That stuff I'm excited about cause I know them niggas want. I'm crazy. Like, I'm looking to hustle more than anything else and be like, damn, that's hard. You know what I'm saying? So I'm a hustler. Now, when I see certain things, I be like, okay, it motivates you, bro. That's all it does. That was the last Big D's last text message was trying to get Charleston white. Oh, himself? Yeah. I asked him about that. That was the last thing. I'm like, nigga, you ain't trying to get him no more. You know, they had a little relationship. I know, I know. He did the interview, the only one he ever did with him was in here. Yeah. Yeah. That's the only one he ever did with him. Damn. It was in my store. Cause it was a different angle, right? It was right here, pointing back the other way. That's my boy. You know what I'm saying? Like, he used to do a lot of them in here. Yeah, he wanted to. Yeah. But you know, the thing I can say, man, is that anything that's hustling and equating to the hustle, man, I ain't mad at it. But we got to talk about your fight too. Man, that's what I was about to say. I heard about your fight, you know? But I really, I gotta say this. I was not really. We watched part of it. We watched it. No, I watched it. I was going to watch show it. I ain't giving nothing about none of the other. I didn't watch nothing else. I was shocked. Cause you didn't even have to toss them. You know, didn't do nothing. You know, you became the headliner to me. Yeah, I did. That was the best thing. Look, we lose a draw or a loss. But that was the best thing I did all year. It was something that I chalked off my bucket list. Bro, I call Big D. I said, man, how is he emotionally? You know, me and him talking. How's this nigga emotionally? He was like, man, he good, man. Fun news. He said, but he just feel like he shouldn't. I'm, we talk like this, you know what I'm like? He just feel like he shouldn't have wore the boots. Man, bro. Look, man, I'm talking the same thing with y'all phone. Cause he was up there. Like, did you guys understand? That's my dude, bro. He came to Arizona to watch that fight, bro. He was there. Faze on love was there too. He was there. I'm telling you. Look, that fight, it really, that shit really helped me out. Like, look, I was so scared. You like I gotta get out of there? I didn't think you were a fighter at all. No, no, no, I wasn't. Like that's what I'm saying. Like I really stepped out of my comfort zone. That's the nigga that I fought would win it. No, we didn't win the fight before. He was in the fucking fetch for nine years. So look, my game plan was, to box him, not bra. But when I got in the ring, I fucking, everything that I learned went out the window because he rushed me like a fucking street fighter. I'm not a street fighter. He's like a real lie. He been in the fetch. You practiced a box. Yeah, like I was trying to box him. But when he rushed me, like he said that's what Floyd told him to do cause I got reached. I just, everything that I learned from footwork to everything. That's why I was telling Big D, stop making excuses for me, bro. He won. But everything that I learned went out the window. You got to understand, you got people screaming. You got, you thinking about who's watching on pay-per-view. You thinking about- You thinking about all that when you were in the ring? You're thinking about everything. You're thinking about his power. Does he have power? Is he gonna, I couldn't, he even did in his interview, he said he couldn't sleep the night before. I couldn't sleep the week of. They made me lose 10 pounds. Cause he's like 170. I was like 195. So I had to meet him halfway. They made me lose 10 pounds. So I was drained, like I've never lost 10 pounds in three days. Have y'all? No. 10 pounds is a lot. But what did you do? Wearing, not eating certain foods. I had to run every day. I had to wear a fucking sweat of- The sweat bag, yeah. Everything. I was like, and the dude, we're winning, like he's fearless. Oh yeah. He didn't want to lose to a blogger. No. So he wanted it more than me. I'm in there just trying to survive. He's in there trying to put me the fuck away. So look, I'm not embarrassed about it. I did call Big D the next day. I said- I told you. I said, Big D, is my career over? That's what he told me. He told me everything, bro. I'm keeping it real with you. He's like, yeah. I said, bro, I said, bro, is my career over? Bro, he told me. He said, no, bro, you're not a fucking boxer. He said nobody at your level. Academics Adam Vlad would never do that. Never do that. He said, nigga, wear that shit. I said bad. Yeah, he told me. He was like, man, cause I asked him. I was like, man, he had the emotions. You know, cause I know- You don't know what people are gonna believe. Cause you basically, your name, your name whole weight, your brand is solidified. But look, I don't want to do that shit. Like, I want to do it again. You can't lose the next one. I can't lose the next one. I can't lose the next one. Do you want to go up against him again? No, I want to do, I want to do a rematch. Yeah, I do a rematch, but I want to do a few tuna fights. Y'all want to do a few tuna fights. So it was fun. Yeah. It was fun, like, it was fun. Like, Sauce Walker's my boy. So like, we, after what it was cool, it didn't pin out the way I wanted it to, but it was like, all right, bet, like, I fought in front of thousands of people. Like, I don't know, that shit was fun, but I'll do that shit again. I'm a daredevil. Did it make you have, like, a new respect for boxers? Yes. You know how you be watching the fight, you be like, boy, he ain't do that. It's like, now you understand, like, you don't want to, like, you don't want to come off. You don't want to, first round, you don't want to go too crazy because you don't want to, you don't want to tire yourself out. So it's kind of like, you gotta, it's a real, like boxing is really a science. It's really a science, keeping the jab out. You gotta make, like, I'm telling you, when I got in the ring, all of that shit went out the window because you're thinking about your girls there, you don't want to get embarrassed, your dad's there, your haters, your supporters. But this is your first time. Yeah, you don't want to let down your supporters, pay per view, you don't know who's watching. People are having watch parties in Houston. You don't know his power. Like, it was crazy. So for everybody saying that, I don't take anybody's opinion unless you've been in the ring before. Yeah, yeah. Because it's so easier said than done. It's so easier said than done. It's so many wood-a-cooter shooters. I'm telling you it's a different world. I think next time you'll have the right trainer, you'll have the right prep work. I think you know what you're going into. Yeah. That walk to that ring, I seen his face, like he was ready to go. He was moving faster than what I would expect. He was moving like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I was ready to get it out the way, like whenever it's going to be, it's going to be. But I don't know, I just... Now you have to learn how to meditate and be more focused when you get in there, block everything out, and just concentrate on the fight. Yes, yes, yes. Who is the person that you would love to fight next? Who you want to call out? Maybe Bosco, because he backed out on me. Yeah, he did, but he's a little bigger though. He looks gain-weighter. Now I'm talking about, he's a little bigger than Bosco went into. He's bigger than dude, but I don't think he got the heart that Wood got. Oh, good. Wood got heart. Like, I didn't lose to no scrub. I lost to a nigga who, you got to understand, I had that week up leading to the fight, I had so many Houston D-boys and hood niggas talking about the stories of him fighting, and so he not no, she not no scrub. And you were reading all of that before? I'm reading all that. Like what the fuck? You know, that's getting into your mind and messing up your mental phase. I was just like, what the fuck? I know somebody who said they want to fight you. Who? Oh. Money Moses said he wants to jump in there. Oh, he want to get in there with you. Money Moses, yeah. He want to get in there right now. Yo, after that, he want to get with you. Money Moses, back in back there. We can do it, man. We can do it. We can do it. Boss talk about podcast against interview. Maybe you want your angry, that'll be a good one. Angry uncles. You would put angry uncles against Boss talk one-on-one. We can't lose that shit, man. I bet he better not lose, yeah. This is entertaining, man. But y'all, like I said, man, that was like the highlight of my year, man. You did a great job, man. Don't tell me I did a great job. No, no, you did. For your first time, just to go do it, like ain't nobody else blogging ever did it, like that I see. No, they scared. You don't see people go into that ring and be like, I'm going to go in there and find a rapper. That ain't nothing normal. So I'm proud that you would even do it. Ain't nobody doing it. But you open in the doors for other people who might be thinking about it. For real, man, go do that shit. That's just my testimony to everybody, like find a hobby, like outside of shit that you do. Just find a hobby, because when you find a hobby, like going fishing, that's my new thing, like going fishing. You like fishing? Yes, because I think of ideas. When I'm going fishing, I think of ideas towards say cheese. Like when you just find a hobby and it has nothing to do with making money, your mind just floored. Like you just think of the unimaginable. You something? Yeah, yeah. So that was just one of my hobbies I had for the summer. It's just like, I didn't plan on going on a pro or, you know, whatever. It was just getting away from say cheese and just, you know. I got to answer something. Is it still on the same subject? Sort of, cause he mentioned bucket list. You said, you crossed that off your bucket list. Give me one more thing you have on your bucket list that you want to do. Damn, that's a good question. Really, buying a warehouse. I want to buy a warehouse for, I want to buy a warehouse for like, where people can come together and like shoot movies and a production warehouse, where people can come through and do podcasting. I want to have half of it be like a gym. Like I want to do like a creative space. Like something like where Tyler Perry has in Atlanta. Yeah, that's hard too. Well, he got over there stupid. But smaller. But smaller, nothing that crazy, got it. Like I said, I want to ask you, man, you got a big brand, say cheese is huge, you know, when it comes down to what you've been able to accomplish, but you got a lot of people that now they're being targeted a lot of times or they've done some things in the past. We don't go to the diddy situation for a second. Like, do you sometime, you know, look at that and be like, damn, you know, like I hate you going through that. Or do you think it's an honest trade off? If it happened for sure. But what do you think when you see how people are coming back? It wasn't just him, it was Jamie Foxx. It was a bunch of them. It was a bunch. Cause they had that New York thing going where you could really get with that situation. Like what do you think about it? Like when you look at your brand and look at the mishap that can happen. That's why I'm, you can lose everything. Man, that's why I'm scared of people. Cause you never know their intentions. Like we don't know, I mean now with diddy shit, it's more than one person coming out. Everybody not lying. Everybody coming out. Everybody not lying. But it's like, there's a lot of people with money that are getting targeted for shit they did eight, nine years ago. Like that's why I just try to, that's why I don't be in the club. I don't try to have too many girls. You know, I got my girlfriend. I don't do too much, you know, mingling because when you have something, you never know what's authentic and what's not. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So people scare me, man. You never know. Like I said, you just never know. How do you avoid those situations? How do you, how do you figure out a way to not be victimized or not be caught up if it's a scandal? I'm not saying that theirs was a scandal, but what if it is a scandal? What if it's somebody lying? What if, how do you, cause you got- Cause somebody can come around you one day and just, you know, not even intimately and then all of a sudden walk out of the room and oh, he raped me. You see what I'm saying? You gotta be careful, dude. You just never know, man. You just gotta keep things documented. Like, man, you didn't, this didn't happen. You text me the other day, you know? Or I don't fucking know. I don't know, bro. People, people scare me. You just don't know. Man, they got girls coming out with Cassie on the floor and they say it's her. I don't know who under that blanket where they saying he did this and all that. 50 Cent having a ball with this shit, man. Man, I love 50 Cent. Oh, he always posted up. 50, 50 been talking already before all of this. This ain't nothing new for 50. He always going on Madonna, too, for some reason. I don't know why. He got his 50? Yeah, he's always going on Madonna. He got his some people, man. Some big D done as well. He introduced me to GDP. GDP, New Orleans. GDP, the spokesman, you named him that, right? Like, what caused you to name it? And just, because you met him before me in Big D. Yeah, because he, we did a, I made a list talking about the hardest cities to blow up out of. And I think New Orleans is the hardest city to blow up out of. New Orleans, Miami, Baltimore, and Ohio. I think they're one of the four places, the hardest places to blow up. Miami's super hard to blow up, but I think New Orleans is the hardest. New Orleans haven't had a mainstream rapper since Wayne. That's been 30 years. That's real. Who can you name from New Orleans that, they've had artists pop out with certain songs, but New Orleans haven't had an artist in over 30 years. Something's wrong with that. For them to have that culture, to have that accent, which I think is against them right now in the music world. But to my point, I made New Orleans the hardest place to blow up. And GDP, he spoke out about it, and I just named him the spokesman because he's a New Orleans historian. That's what he knows about. But why do you think they're one of the hardest places to blow up? Or what do you think is going on? I think New Orleans is the hardest place to blow up because of the murder rate. The hatred there is different. The hatred is so small. If somebody wants to kill you, they'll kill you. They didn't have a DNA lab, which where people could kill you and get away with it. So it made people more motivated to kill because they knew that it's easier to get away with murders. So that plays a part in Hayden. Whereas though, if you are going up or you have a chance to go up, they'll kill you. New Orleans is the murder capital. And I think their accent plays a part in it too. To where as though right now I feel like, and people love the New Orleans accent, but I'm talking about in music. Sometimes- Because they can't understand those. Sometimes it's hard to understand the New Orleans artists. People just don't understand it. And they'll turn their heads from it. But I think New Orleans is about to have their time again. They're doing their thing. Everything's set up to where ratchet is cool now. You know, New Orleans is the city of ratchet. They go now. Louisiana, period. Yeah. And I think their beats too. I think Baton Rouge kind of took a little bit of their flavor a little bit. Don't give me into this Louisiana, a little bit. But I think it was just Baton Rouge's turn. So I think New Orleans is gonna come back around. But I think Miami's number two though. Miami's super hard to blow up. Wow. Miami's super hard with all their resources and the DJ Khaled and the Birdmans that live out there and they don't have a big artist. It's super hard. Who was the last big artist to come out of Miami? Like Trick Daddy. Like on that level, it's artists that peaked for Miami. But like at that level, like, oh, I mean, you had the Lil Pump's and the City Girls. Okay. But I'm talking about like a household. Well, City Girls Lil Pump, they household names. But artists that Miami would be proud about, they haven't had that in 20 years. Give me a top five music execs in the game. I like Damn Dash. Damn. Top five you said? Execs. Damn, I fuck with Damn Dash, man. Me too. I like what he stands for. Yeah. Yeah. I love, we've been in the room and he set that room down when he stand for his people. Yeah. I love it, man. Damn, that's a good question. Yeah. Make you think. Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, I like what, I like what Yo Gotti doing. Okay. I like what, you know, the whole QC thing. I like Guysie Empire. Just seeing young bosses, man, like a lot of these dudes, I like Shout Out New Era promotion. They're a Florida, they based out of Florida. I would love for y'all to interview them when they come out here. Okay, okay. But they play a part in a lot that goes on in South Florida. Like I said, Shout Out the Rain too. Not saying he's in my top five. Hey! Not saying there's like five people who's not bigger than him, but just me being here and seeing like his passion. Yeah, yeah. He's passionate, man. And sometimes when you're too passionate, you scare people away. Yeah, yeah. And I'm one of them people too that's like super passionate to where like, he's super passionate, man. And it's a lot of young cats out here who are really, you know, doing their thing. Like even like Half Pint, you know. Half Pint's doing his thing. Yeah, yeah. He did the Mixer yesterday too. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? I like shit like that. You like it. He working. That's what makes shit fun. And what I was saying earlier, like the Dallas shit's not fun no more. The DFW rap music, it's not fun. Not saying that people gotta come out here and beef and kill. Because a lot of people blame me for that. Like I was the mediator. Yeah, I got a call and they were like, you the new Sean Cotton, man. Damn. Something just happened. It wasn't about Rain. I said, man, get the hell out of my face. But it's just like with, for example, and it just happened again. But like Rain Water, Charleston White Hat came on my platform and said something about Rain, right? And Rain called me and was like, man, I got to tell you about yourself. I'm like, damn, what? I'm thinking like a hundred different things. Like what the fuck? Like, how you gonna let Charleston go? And that's how shit start because everybody wants the last word. Right. Now Rain wants to come and there's nothing wrong with it because like I just told Charleston in my last interview, I don't want any false allegations on my platform if somebody can't come speak and defend themselves. Exactly. But then it turns into a messy thing for when people look at it being messy when now everybody wants the last word and they keep coming back to your platform. And now you looking like the messy one because it turns into, he say, she say. So it's like, nah, man. But like I said, I like what Half Pines doing. I like what Rain is doing. Are they seeing it out of the hour? That's cap. I think right now. Because you never know with Rain. No, I think Rain is targeted like he always do. That's something that Big D taught me about Rain. He said he's seen something in the bathroom. What he said? Man, Rain is this. Rain is targeting whatever he's targeting and he's on a mission. That's all. And I learned from Big D that you just got to take him for what he's doing and just let him go where he's going. But you ain't on the bus with him. You just riding away. I don't know. I just think artist is fun. Like the mixer, the mixer he did yesterday, it just makes, it brings stuff to life. It was a success too. Yeah. It was a lot of people in there. It was a success. And it just like, it just, like I said, these artists in Dallas now will appear. There was a lot of entertainment going on. Like when you had Yeyo, Mode 3, like it was just niggas will go live. Like it was just a lot of content being made and people were like a lot of personality being splashed around. Nowadays it's a lot of, like I don't agree with like saying, oh, artists suck though either. Like that's not something she said. That was something that was said on a big platform like yours. Having a big platform, like you should never say stuff like that because people will get discouraged. But I mean, there's not a lot of artists with the full package. I'm going to say that. Yeah. The thing is, I wanted to ask you another question about, you just mentioned Rainwater, but is do you feel like Mode 3 is more talented than Lil Wayne and Tupac? Fuck no. Fuck up. He had an NBA Youngboy too. He had an NBA Youngboy too. He said NBA Youngboy is more talented than Tupac. He's more established. Not more talented, more established. That's what he said. No. See, Mode 3 was good because he could hit every angle. He could make love songs, heartbreak songs. He going to tell you the good and the bad. He going to tell you the consequences. Yeah, you can go kill somebody, but this will come with it. It's not just the one side stories. Man, Mode 3 was just a one-on-one, man. I don't think we'll ever see an artist in the city with that type of backing. Right now, you got the big extra plugs that's doing this fucking thing. Killing. But it was like we grew with Mode 3. We seen Mode 3 fucked up, Bummy wearing fake designer. We seen Mode 3 homeless, Saini was homeless, selling CDs. We're not going to see that grind no more. And it's nobody's fault. Is this the stage we are in? Hip hop. You can't sell CDs no more. I remember Mode 3 slingy CDs. So we'll never get to see... I don't think we'll ever get to see that type of growth anymore in the DFW, man. And that was... I remember I did the Dallas verse Everybody record and I put all the Dallas rappers on one song. Fat Pimp, Lady Savage, everybody on one record. And I put Mode 3 at the end of the record, man. He killed that ass. I'm going to ask you about... I got to ask you another question. I'm not going to hold you too much longer, but what, man, do you think... Give me your top five interviews in just period. Top five interviews, viewers. In Texas, do you want to do Texas? Period. Got to go Vlad, he OG. Vlad, that's the one you always uplift. I like Vlad, man. I do be on Vlad a lot on here. I let people go in, but it be just because the culture is so parallel and, man, to certain things that, like, when you go with a Thai Reese and you have to try to pick, okay, then you got... Kim and Ken for show going to come over and give him hell, but... I'm like, man, but then... Slim Thug mentioned him the other day. Slim Thug does mention him. Like, he catches a lot... Hell, yeah, he catches some... He catches some boulders here. He said, for stop going on Vlad, because he was talking to... They said Boosie, but he was just... I think he was in general with that statement. You know, but you say Vlad because Vlad showed you the game. He showed everybody. A lot of people... No, I learned a lot from you, but more... Because I came in late. I watched what you was doing. I watched what... I watched Breakfast Club a lot. If you really think about it, I was like, I'm gonna beat Breakfast Club. That's who I want to try to... I'm going at Breakfast Club. Right. But it was, like, in a way from the South where our people were... But then this was an independent thing, and I think that what made me different. But at the end of the day, man, just top five. I don't want you to get out of it, bro. It's really gonna be hard because... I need to top five, baby. I like what Nojumper's doing as far as... I like how he... It's a lot of people that... I like how... I don't know, I like Nojumper, man. It's a lot of shit that I don't agree with, but I like his format of... He brings a team on, and now he... He's feeding a lot of different people. I like that. But they could... AD was over there, but that's my boy now, like I told you. I'm surprised they don't wreck out, is what I told AD a lot. Like, how do y'all... With the politics of what y'all dealing with up there, how do y'all be in the same room? But the business is business. I get it, but this thing could spill over easy. So that was a thin line right there. That's why I never wanted Nojumper. You just had one runoff on there. They were just running it off. I just talked to AD earlier today. And it wasn't even about him. He didn't say nothing about the dude. He said he didn't say nothing about his e, but damn, like... But when he seen us, you know what I'm saying? He took off, but also Nojumper said he ain't beefing with him no more. You know, with ADNM. So that was hard, too. Yeah, I like Gilbert Arenas' podcast. Gilbert Arenas, he has Gilbert Arenas. That's what it's called, Superdope. Shit, shout out to Million Dollar's worth of game, too. Man, that's four. One more. But it's a lot, though. Like, I'm on YouTube. My girl be like, man, you always on your... I'm just such a student. Like, I'm just such a student on how can I get better. Better. And like Big D. Like, Big D was a hell of an interviewer. He had the voice. He was serious about it. He had the voice. I love that voice. He was serious about it. You know, me and him would talk about things like how y'all be building a relationship because I tear relationships up. Yeah, because he wasn't good at that. I feel like, man, you keep... Like, me and Phazerum became tight after I interviewed him. He was trying to figure out, like, you do that, man. But to hell, I think he did good with Nate Boone, which it ain't much time. I mean, he did good with that. And the thing is with, man, like, we could talk about Big D all day, but after the Nate Boone interview, he was like, man, you should interview him. And I'm like, damn, bro, you did this. Yo shit at $600,000. Like, I can't backdoor this. He was like, nah, bro, you can do it. And it's just like, he was just... Big D was so unselfish. And, like, bro, like, shit. It's crazy, bro. But with Big D, though, I like his interviews because of his deep voice. Like, he had, like, a Vlad-type of voice. Yeah. Like, a real distinctive voice. A radio voice. What made you... You said, Gil and Willow, what makes their dynamic? Because they're out of Philly, right? Yeah, they're out of Philly. That's what it is. I forgot about that. Yeah, they're out of Philly. He wasn't even thinking about it. No, I thought about it now. I just... I just think they're consistent. I like Funny Marco. Funny Marco whole. That's what I'm saying. I don't really have... So, is Funny Marco your number five? Because you still... I don't really... You gotta narrow it down. Who's your number five? Is St. Cheesy number five? Nah, I don't like to put myself in this. You can't grade yourself in that. Okay. I mean, he don't like to do that. Man, this is a lot, man. It's a lot of platforms. I would put Funny Marco number five because of his humble beginnings and slowly coming up and academics. I like academics a lot. DJ academic is dope. I've been watching him. I've been watching him. I go look at him. I'm like, damn, this nigga here. It's like some of the stuff like the Saucy Santana thing through me. I've been talking about that when I was in Chicago. He has to give the gab for sure. He has to give the gab for sure. I wish I could stay on streaming all day and just talking about shit. Yeah. And I think I can, but he just has to give the gab in the way he really does his research and studies. I respect academics, man. I really like how he's carrying it. You think you could have handled the Saucy Santana situation? You think you handled it the right way? Man, this is... How do you handle that? You got to... Like I just said, it's an LL with Saucy Santana because it's like... Let's just say you beat him up. You beat up a gay person or if you lose from a gay person, you lost to a gay person. Damn. Or you say something out of pocket. You get canceled like the baby. So there's no wins out of that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's crazy. I think, like I said, my biggest thing is, man, when we're doing this whole podcast, you told me things was going to work out. You don't remember that, but I got it on tape. You know what I'm saying? You said y'all going to be doing good. I got all that. We did what we do. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. We still been hanging in there. You know, I think sometime I'll be confused by you two. I'll be like, they can't see me. Nobody can see me. How do you deal with that algorithm? Do you have a rep? I ain't going to lie to you. I don't take money for interviews. I pay now. I pay people to come on my shit. I pay. Like, it ain't millions of dollars, but I definitely pay. Like, if it's somebody that I know, sometimes I'll have a fucked up week and I'll be like, man, I only made this this week. Man, let me pay to get FRBJ main in here and get my shit out. Yeah. Let me pay FBJ butter. Let me pay somebody who's going to get my shit, but I pay. I pay like I way, but I always make sure whatever I pay am I know for a fact that I'm going to get my triple. You're going to make it back. So that's this one thing to everybody who has a platform. You got to pay to get that consistent number, but make sure you not getting finessed. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like everything I pay, I know that like when I do Charleston, you know Charleston going to do it. It's going to go crazy. But definitely. Yeah. That's what I do. What about Batman? Yeah. Have you did him lately? No, I haven't. Yeah. He's been out of the country. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And the other guy did not see, did you go to his, they sold all his cars. The one guy. On me in the healthcare. Yeah. I bought two of his cars. Yeah. I seen you. I seen you. I was like, this nigga is going to get them cars. Are you going to give them back to him? I can't say that. Yo, it was a lot of FBI It was a US Marshal. Really? It was an FBI auction. US Marshal auction. Damn. When I came in there, Marshal was all over the place. And there was a lady that walked up to me, a black lady. She probably watching this shit. The way they was on me. She was like, so, which car are you about to buy? Like that. Uh-huh. And I was like, She already knew who you was, bro. Probably so. No, real talk. And damn it's crazy you say that. No, it's the truth. I asked my girl, I was like, I was like, damn shit. I was like, oh no. I walked out. I was like, I forget this. I am buying nothing. I don't know. But then it was chilling. And then I had one, two cars. And then I just, after I won that second car, it just came uncomfortable. I gotta get out of here. I gotta get out of here. Cause it's like, now y'all going to be looking at, and I'm legit, but it's just like, I don't even want y'all on me. Yeah. And on me, I did talk to on me afterward. He didn't know that I was going. Okay. But just off record, if y'all get me, he was happy. So he was happy that I went. Cause one of them joints, he's attached to. Yeah. Yeah. That's one thing about it. I love the way you, you know, like, I think you got a good heart, bro. Yeah. Like when it comes down to realness. Definitely, bro. Trying to do the right thing about the people you got with your life, bro. I do so much shit. I get a lot of fleck, but I do so much shit offline. Like that if only people knew, but I'm not the type of person for people to find out. Like, if you know, you know, if you don't, you know, like it's cool. You still got the land and the weed factory. Yeah. Yeah. Like if I got the weed farm. It's a factory. That's in Oklahoma, so it's gonna be a factory, right? Yeah. For real. Legal 100%. That's right. I'm in real estate too. Yeah. I've seen that. I seen a house or something. You just posted, right? Yup. So I'm buying, well, I just bought land, a lot of land. Fort Worth actually is the fastest growing city in the world. Wow. So if y'all looking in any investments, Fort Worth is it. Fort Worth is it because all the oil machinery factories out there, not a lot of traffic like Dallas yet. But it's growing. Like so crazy. It's a lot of land out there. I bought a whole lot. So I'm about to build my own neighborhood out there. A whole lot? Like Boosi got the whole situation out there? Yeah. But I'm gonna build Fort Worth, they got to do the zoning for me. Mm-hmm. Because they zone it for you to where you can only build a house or a town home or a duplex. So they tell you what you can build based off of the design. Right. But I'm thinking about giving away a house. Wow. To a home, to like a family in need, like a real family in need. I'm gonna give away a house. Yeah, I do your research into them. Yeah, I got to make sure it's legit. Have you ever thought about doing commercial real estate? Yes. Yes, like, yes, like, what? So. I got to ask you about something else I thought about and he'd be on my show. You ain't got a TV. He started out a long time ago. Right. I seen you in Arkansas doing some things one time. He was like, was it Arkansas? It was. It was. A few times. Like, what do you think when I bring up Gunna TV, have you guys got a relationship? Man, we had a back and forth online. To me, I'd be trolling. Like, I don't have no, but he's a legend. Like, he started off doing this shit. Like, back when it was like the fucking DVD era. Yeah. Like, I could never hate on nobody who paved the way for this shit. And you're still young. You can still come and do this shit and make crazy money if you wanted to. Like, you just got to, is this a new time? You just got to change with the times. And I feel like sometimes he feels like, sometimes he kind of like, he kind of feel kind of like, like, a old head, an angry uncle. He's an angry uncle. Sometimes he, he gives off angry uncle vibes. But I'm here to say that, like, you're still young. People still fuck with you. You can still come back and do crazy interviews, make money. Like, people, it's enough space and it's for all of us. That's why when Big D told me he was starting to do interviews, I didn't say, no, Big D, don't do it. I'll do interviews. I went and did an interview on his shit multiple times to support him. And I'm talking about niggas who start to do interviews. It's enough media for all of us. But let me ask you this, though, like, you just complimented Gutter TV for being in this game. Come on, bro. Paving the way, like, that's one of the things that he did say on here. He was like, man, he never showed, you know, show me some love for what I do. No, man, I always paid showed everybody love. What I look like paying Vlad love and not him love, that's just wrong with black people now. We quick to show love to the white man. And I always, it was Gutter TV always throw, man, I'm the old G, y'all paid the way. Yes, you did. Paid the way, bro. Like, it's a new time and I give you your credit. I give you your love and you can still be doing this shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's, it's nothing. He still deals with, like the, like he got moonwalk and a couple more artists. He's still dealing with the rap side a lot of it. I know you say you getting out of it, though. Is that something that, that like, kind of person today's time. He could come to me and be like, yo, Sean, I got these artists. You got a platform. I'd be like rain, bro. We go crazy with the artists together. This shit that the internet don't know. Yeah. Because if people be, yo, Sean, I talked to rain tonight to go like, man, nigga, you ain't even call me back about this. He got a cold ass female artist in San Antonio. Damn. I'm like, bro, I got the platform. You do the street work. We go 50-50. I got the distribution company. I can upload the record. We can do crazy promo together. And he won't, he won't call me back. So sometimes I'm questioning like, damn, is niggas in secret competition? Because everybody speak this come-together shit to it's time to come together. That's real. Maybe he checking his options. Maybe so. Before he come back to you. You don't owe me shit. You know what I'm saying? But I do want to say this though. Like, I don't have no problem with gutters. I don't have no problem with none of these people. If people came to me with an artist that I liked, we could do this shit together. I'm, I'm, bro, I'm not in competition with nobody. It's, it's plenty of money out here to get. Man. It's plenty of money out here to get. Because you and Gutter, both, y'all dope, bro. Yeah, I don't have no problem with Gutter, man. I see both of y'all. I'll be like, damn. I don't have no problem with Gutter, man. I'll be, I'll just be trolling, man. I'll just be, cause I know how the internet work. Yeah. I know how the internet work. I don't have no, nothing against Gutter, bro. Like. We looking for you to, like you, you know, we got 1501 is definitely in Houston. Yeah. I've been waiting on you. I'm like, we're going to make this big record company here in Dallas. And we're going to have a big, you know, I was thinking, I was thinking, I thought you would make that label deal for all these young niggas. Man. It's possible. It's possible to do. I just haven't found nobody that I love. Yeah. I like the Xehanel Doe cat. You like him? I like him. I like that he don't talk about, he really like, you, you could, it's authentic. I could tell it's authentic, like the streets love him. He got the image. He looked like the, he looked like a Dallas nigga. You know what I'm saying? Like he, like a Dallas cat. I like the Xehanel Doe cat. I like the Montana 700 cat. I just, I think them cats can do something because, you know, they got their own motion. They already having a little bit of paper. Like them cats, I feel like I can run it up with them. Let me ask you something. You got, you got a T Jones with the last guy you interviewed out of East Texas. T Jones. Like, like, do you pay attention to the East Texas artists? Yeah, I'm not. You see what I'm saying? Like people look at you like, you the guy that when people see you, and I told her, I find the same thing. Certain people they look at, if I can just get with that guy, if I could get on that platform, if I could link up with that dude. But it's easier than that. And I get it. They saying that in the work, gotta be there. Do you see any of that stuff, the motion, you know, have these stupid in East Texas? I see, I see everything. Like, yeah, I've interviewed him before. He did go to jail though. He didn't. Didn't he go to jail for like two, but he's been around. Yeah, now though. Yeah. You had C.C.P. from down there. He bought the last one that really went stupid. Yeah, I'm not geographical when it comes down to town. I'm not, bro. Like, I'm not. Like, Dallas, not Dallas, Arlington, like, it just gotta be something that I'm passionate about. I'm not out here signing artists just to stay relevant. You something I'm saying? Yeah. Like a lot of people I think they just want an artist just to say they have an artist. Like, I have a lot of time and then I have a lot of problem to it. When I sign artists, they think it's just say cheese and that's it. Like, no, I can post you, but if you're not doing the groundwork, it's not going to become full circle. So, a lot of artists, they just want to just get say cheese, say cheese, say cheese and I can't over say cheese you because they're going to get tired of you and then it's going to look biased. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, you got to have the groundwork. That's why I said, I wouldn't mind working with rainwater because he's in those clubs. Yeah, he does the groundwork. I do the internet work. Boom. We out of here. We got one. Easy. Boom. We bring in five more. Let's do it like that. Let's run that play. Like, people talk shit about rainwater, but people, people fuck a rain. Yeah. They don't even have point too. Like, me and had point, we bumped heads, but. Have y'all talked since we had? Yeah, I told them I have a problem. I told them The car thing was serious with you when you first came on. That was a car. You love that car. I told that nigga about that when he was here. I was looking at my car like that car last night. Like, like, and I just couldn't do, I just felt played like doing business with you, but your homie got my car. That's like, look, that's like, that's like me and Moses cool. Right. Yeah. But I owe you money, but Moses, I owe you $20,000. But, but, uh, Moses, uh, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. You got all my money, man. Stop playing. You know already what it is. You don't want to leave me with it. Uh-huh. I think that was more where it was at. That's what I'm saying. You look different. You got this different glow about you. You know, you, you, the fatherhood thing. How's that working out for you? I love it. I want all girls. We got to talk about this. I know he said you want all girls. I told him, no, you need that one boy. I want all girls. And they, none of them playing basketball. Like, I want them to be on like some, um, How did that change you, man? It made me more patient. It made me more patient. It made me, uh, think before I do certain things. Um, it made me, uh, just calmer. And, um, it made me just wanted like, it's like, not say fuck these artists and fuck these people, but just like, invest back into my family. Wow. Like maybe, like think about the future. Like, damn, okay, all this money I'm making, I'm putting this into this in great for ass nigga. I could be putting this into, I could buy this land for my daughter, for when she turned 18, this shit worth, I bought it for 20,000, but now it's worth 800,000. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? Now, now I'm thinking like long term instead of, instead of short term. And, uh, I want all girls. I don't want, they none of them playing basketball when all of them play tennis. How many kids you want? I want like five. Oh, five? You sure? I got four. You want five? Damn, why, why, why you stop? What's wrong with four? I think, man, you do what you can, man. Grandkids come after that. Yeah, we got grandkids. But big, you got a big family or none? No, just me. Well, no, he has a huge family. I have a huge family, but I'm not into that. Like, do y'all have like, like Christmas is the house pack? No, no, no, no, no, no. See, I don't want to be, I want it to be like home, I don't want to watch home alone. Yeah. When is it, it just like fun, like it's like, It's a lot, man. But it's, it's like, it's fun. You love family. It turns it to a gang. It turns it to a mob. It turns it to a movement. Right. It turns it to money. You can not, it turned it to a business. It turns it to what, like how LeVar Bar got his kids now. Of course. A brand. Yeah. You saw what I'm saying? Yeah. Man, I got to go back to a little boosted for a second because I was like, man, you interview his brother all the time. You ever think that's going to like affect you and boost his relationship? I don't see that. You don't even, I'm just doing the interview. I'm just doing the interview. We post Boosie all the time. I'm going to say, jeez. So what, what, I mean, cause that's something that they, they struggle with. That's touchy. You know what I'm saying? That's a touchy situation. You know what I'm saying? It is. But at the end of the day, it's like, man, you want to see them get a, get through it. No, I said that in our last interview, but I only speak on the things that Boosie speaks on on Vlad. That's all it. So I don't go into the personal shit. I only ask some questions about what Boosie said about him on Vlad. If it's not on the internet, I don't, you don't got to tell me. Wow. So I just make sure I keep it on everything that's on the internet, on the internet. I don't try to, you know, Boosie's a legend, but you know, niggas just still got to be fair too. You know what I'm saying? You going on Adam 22? Y'all, you going to get make the no jump? I'm going, I'm going no jumper. He been calling me for the last three years. I just haven't been to LA. It's just a pandemic. I think you should go because like I said, it's every, I've seen half paint on there and, I mean, you know, you know how to interview too, though. You've been, you've been interviewing so many people, but when you first got on the other side of that table, how was that for you? It's a difference. Man, you know, certain things you got to say because people are holding your word to a certain standard and, you know, it's just certain words you got to say, but, you know, can't put no, can't throw nobody under the table. Yeah. I'd say to be gave oh shit. Why just him? Back and look. Yeah. Pay attention. They changed not as big as they was. No. They cars ain't as fast. That's real. The weed they smoking out, they blunts not as big. It's a lot of niggas who fell off over the years, bro. Yeah. They still got the same jewelry that they had, you know, jewelry rappers. They got to change their shit every year. Yeah. That's why I hate, ooh, rapper. It's expensive. It's expensive. Because you can't do nothing you did last year. You mentioned it. Rainwater just mentioned it. Be gave all that. He's full of shit for that. And I love, and I fuck with rain, but he's full of shit for that. Wow. It's a lot of rappers who fell off, bro. How do you, how do you plan to maintain this success? You know, a lot of people talk about Master P and I know Slim doesn't say it like, like Master P fell off. Like we talking about the fall off thing, but he don't look fall off to me. Like he living real good. But how do you noodles? That's what I'm saying. The cereal noodles, all the stuff he doing on the back burner, but how do you avoid? How are you going to keep the success going for Elvin and change generations? Keeping it innovative. What I mean by that is like I say, investing in myself, keeping people on my platform that people want to see. Bringing people on my platform that people may not expect. Like fucking, I said on my interview, I want to interview Jordan's son. Michael Jordan's son. Why the fuck you piping down, pipping. Exactly. Like Obama's daughter. Like is this people staying innovative and bringing personalities on? That's why I said I like no jumper because Adam 22 can make money without being there. He can have his Brick baby, a white 100, all them boys is just turning up and they just talking for sure. And they just talking and the CEO is not there. So it's just different things that you just got to do to keep shit going and it's just bigger than me. Like I just got to keep creating new personalities and you know, the Charleston white things going great. The FRBJ man shit is going great. They bring thousands of dollars to the show. That's why I paid them good. You figured out like Charleston whites making like a good 100,000 a year for me. Yeah. Yeah. You figured it out. You know what it takes. I know what it takes and you know, he delivers and it's just about them delivering and that's my only advice for you. It's just like I know, you know, I'm about to ask you about boss talk 101. Now we've been good to each episode where I came and asked like, Sean Codd, how's boss talk 101 doing? We still, you know, we hear them, but what do you see when you look at this? I see you investing in yourself. Like the first thing I said when I came in was like, God damn, but I just feel like guess like you always and you do a good job at that. Like it was a point of time you had hella people from LA coming in here. Oh yeah. They still coming to hell yeah. But it was just just being youthful stay youthful. Yeah. Because the kids run this shit. They run YouTube. Whatever they say is hot is hot. When artists come to the city, shit happens to happen. Yeah. People come in here and do shows. Yeah. We get up and move around too. We were just in Chicago. So we move around. You move around. You don't be there. You don't move around. They don't be there. They just, the camera guys. In a lot of street cats, a lot of street cats, they try to say, yeah, he don't be outside. But you got to understand, I can interview somebody in New York, LA, Miami, in fucking two hours by doing this shit. I have a cameraman in every city, bro. Wow. Every city, Atlanta, Florida, Vegas, LA, Chicago, Philly, DC, New York. Hey, such-and-such is there. Hey, can we, and that's how we do it. That's hard. Because now I don't have to pay to travel. That's right. You're profits now. That's right. You see what I'm saying? It's thinking smarter and not harder. And a lot of these people are stuck in they old ways. That's why I'm talking about gutter. It ain't 2005 no more. Like, and there's no hate, but you just got to change with the times. Wow. Man, thank you so much for coming on the show. What else you got for my boy, man? That's it. Sean Cotton came in and did it again. Man, listen, man, thank you so much for coming on the show. I'm going to lose the draw. Like, when I lost that fight, I'm just going to say I lost him on the internet. I took my, I took a L. Yeah. Everybody has L's. Give me a story about Big D. Oh, you still going back to Big D one more time? Yeah, I want a story because that's the one thing I enjoyed. The funeral is the fact that when people were going up and telling, you know, memories of different situations, I love that. Me and Cotton, which is his cousin, and I grew up with Cotton. Yeah, he told me that was your best friend. Cotton's my best friend. Been in shootouts with him. Cotton's died a few times with him. Cotton's crazy. Shout out to Cotton, too. Like, he really changed his life around. I'm talking about a guy who, man, like, almost went down for a murder case. Like, from being in shootouts, Christmas Eve, I was in a crazy shootout with him. Almost died. Crazy, bro. Like, he's the reason why I never want to be in the streets because of the shootout time was in that almost killed me on Christmas Eve. Picture getting killed on Christmas Eve, bro. Crazy. So it was just like being in the shootout with him on Northwest Highway. That changed my life, man. Shout out to Cotton. You know, man. But Cotton's his cousin. So me and Cotton had a studio. It was like $400. The studio was like $400 a month. We couldn't meet rent. That's how I met Big D. We couldn't meet rent. So we sitting in Cotton's Camaro and we looking at each other like, bro, what the fuck we gonna do, bro? Like, we don't have money. Like, and I'm tired of spending this $400. We're never here. And that's how I met Big D. Big D came in, Big D came and saved the studio. Damn. And at first I was like, man, who the fuck is this big ass dude? Like, man, he ain't here trying to run shit with a deep ass boy talking about some what up, though. Who the fuck? That was the old one. What up, though? Nah, man. Big D. And then I think me, I think him coming to my fight it met a lot. Man. Because none of my I mean, not blaming them. I mean, everybody don't have, I mean, people got to work, bro. People got, you know what I'm saying? So I don't blame them, bro. They supported me by buying a pay-per-view. Like everybody can't make it. Like, this is what it is. But he came out for his wife's birthday. I think it was at his birthday. I think it was his birthday. I don't know. But he came out celebrating his birthday, I think. And when I, him just supporting me being there, it met a lot. It really met a lot, man. And I'll never forget Big D. Like I say, his kids will never, his kids will never be in need. I will always look out for his family. And, you know, because he always called me and gave me advice. And he always called me seeking for advice. It was never like he was too good for advice, you know? Or, you know, he helped me, man. And a lot of people he touched a lot of people. A lot of people. Right. That girl, Cat, I've seen her. She got on. Hellcat. Hellcat. Hellcat. Yeah. She got on no jumper behind. Yeah. No deep, you know. Yeah. She gave the pops. Yeah. Now that's hard, man. Like I said, man, that's a big pill to swallow, man. But at the end of the day, we're going to make sure to make his legacy live on. That's why the camera is going to keep rolling. That's why you're going to keep coming to Bostalk. Yeah. This the mission we own, you know what I'm saying? I think you appreciate you, man. I appreciate you, man. With all you, bro, we'll never stop asking you to come by. Right. Trying to figure out what you're doing and saluting you. We salute you a lot on this channel, bro. Yeah. A lot, bro. You can always reach out to even if it's not about an interview or if it's somebody that you want to get on. I'm not, you know, I'm really like, you just got to let me know. I just salute you a lot because I know it ain't easy, bro. Yeah. It ain't easy. It is not, bro. Sometimes I text you and say stuff and you, I was like, before you had changed your number, and it was like, man, I just want to say, man, keep going. Keep going. Because sometimes people don't say that. People don't talk to people. And like you told me, hit bum, be up. And I was like, I don't know about that, but I still hit him up. Yeah, you just have to hit people up. Just hit them up and just tell them they're doing good, man. It ain't always got to be a body in them. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? But thank you for coming on this show. Man, I appreciate it. I know you're coming back because we got to bless you with a special gift. I told you. I got to come back. You got to come back, bro. Let's get it out the way, man. Check it, man. Hey, man. Thank you, Chaka. We love you. Love you, too. Keep pushing that say cheese, man. Say cheese TV is hard, bro. Appreciate it. You know what I'm saying? Appreciate it. Say, man, it's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. What a boss is talking. And we out.