 It's actually fairly common for me to stumble upon a Linux distribution that I've never heard of before Because there's just a lot of Linux distributions out there, and I'm not all knowing despite what I may claim and Therefore I often just happened upon Linux distributions that I've just never heard of before even if they are somewhat popular I may not have heard of them before because I don't try a lot of Linux distributions that are kind of out there Unless I'm making a video about them So when I stumble upon a distribution usually on distro watch and I find one that I didn't know about about before I usually ask what the is that distro? You know what I mean? Usually there's more swearing there, but I'm trying to tone it down for the children so I recently stumbled upon a distribution called Makulu now from what I can tell Makulu has been around for a very long time at least ten years and it definitely has Some interesting things going for it. I will say that I have played around with it for a little while now and I'm ready to make a video about it now The first thing I will tell you is that this is a very confusing distribution and Not confusing like the other distributions in this series and that they do weird things for weird reasons More it's a confusing distribution because I don't know why more people don't really know about it because it's actually Kind of cool So let's go ahead and take a look at Makulu Linux now Like usual in this series the first thing we're going to do is take a look at the website now As you know at least if you watched any of the videos in this series before I very often judged a distribution Upfront based on how good its website is and in this case I can judge it just as I usually do because this website is actually pretty good now in terms Information and stuff like that This is actually kind of high on the list in terms of where this Website falls on all the rest of them that are in this series because if you've watched any of the videos in this Series before which you'll find a playlist at the end of the video You will know that very often the distros in this series tend to have Really bad websites or they don't have websites at all. They just use source forage whatever and While that doesn't necessarily always mean that the distribution is bad Oftentimes it does like if the developer hasn't put some effort into Creating at least a single page website that shows off what the distribution is about chances are they've also made some Interesting choices in the distribution itself as well So in the case of Makulu Linux the website is actually really good It has a wiki so if you wanted to find out some information about the distribution you could now one thing I will notice is that it is a very slow Website, but there's a ton of information here So if you can put up with that you can just see that there's links upon links upon links of stuff here For you to check out if you're interested in gaining more information about Makulu Also things like the forum is here live chat is here the ability to submit a bug report is here The download button or at least a link to the download page is right at the top They don't hide it like some distributions now the one thing you'll notice throughout this entire video is That they do tend to put their pro version up front quite a lot So if that's something that turns you off now I know a lot of people just they don't like that some distributions have a different version like a pro version I used to be one of those people like I didn't really care that Zorin OS has a pro version It doesn't really seem like that's the Linux way But as I've furthered my interest in Linux I've come to realize that distributions need to make money and a pro version is at least one way of doing it now And in the case of this pro version It is $30 so it's not Exorbitantly expensive, but you don't have to buy it if you don't want to the free version is completely functional It has most of the stuff that you would get no matter what you know It comes it's a fully functioning Linux distribution and That's great if you want the pro version you get some extra themes which I'll talk about themes more later and a few other things But they're not essential now. They also have a link to this droid option here, which is a Project that they're using to get Android support on Makulu now I haven't played around with this at all So I don't know how well it works, but it definitely does exist So if that's something that interests you that is also a possibility on Makulu now another thing I'll say before we jump into the installation is that the ISO is Fairly large usually when you're talking on a Linux distribution You're looking at around a 2 gigabyte ISO. That's usually about average for a ISO now Obviously, there's plenty of them that are smaller and like if you download something like ARCA or something like that You're gonna have one this way bigger. This one here is about three and a half gigabytes So it is kind of hefty and you'll see why because it comes with a lot of stuff installed and It has a lot of interesting features that you don't see Basically anywhere else, which is one of the reasons why I'm actually quite surprised at how Kind of cool this distribution is so let me stop talking about how cool it is and show you it So let's go ahead and jump into a virtual machine So when you first log into Makulu, you're gonna get a scrolling line of text Which is fairly normal with Linux, of course, and then you're going to get this screen here Don't worry about that. It's just kind of hang up it's gonna hang up here for a second and then it's going to jump into something that you've probably never seen before and that is a Welcome presentation slash Something or the other I don't actually know what you'd call this now The thing is is that this is not very intuitive You have to click on this guy in order for him to go as far as I can tell if you don't Click on the guy it doesn't go but the rest of the stuff is automated and It's a sales pitch. It reminds me very much of like this the slides you get when you install windows, you know You get the how awesome windows is kind of thing the difference here and the difference between the slides You get when you install Linux is that this is doing nothing for you, right? There's nothing going on behind the scenes like you're not watching this as you install something you still have to install it afterwards and While this is cool, and it's definitely neat I don't see a way of getting by it is the thing like I don't know if like I've tried clicking on it and right clicking on it and All those sorts of stuff and it just doesn't seem to be something that you can skip past The only interactable slide as far as I can tell is that first one where you have to click in order to get Just to get started if you don't click it actually times out it takes you to light DM now The problem with that of course is that oh you want to know what? See, I just figured something out if you hover over this you can actually see that this thing here is a video That's the reason why it's not something. It's that's the reason why I have to click at the beginning It's actually making you press play I Suppose the best way to skip through this is if you you know fast forward through it I guess I've never seen a distribution that plays a video for you before you can literally do anything and that you as you can see it's about two minutes long and I'm gonna go ahead and skip to the end because if you want to what if you want to read all that stuff you can it's just It's it's like it's it's sales pitch and I'll talk about some of the options that it you know It tells you about as we go through so in the live ISO it pops up the main feature of Makulu Okay, so the main feature that this thing offers that makes it different from any other desktop distribution out there at least for the most part There are some that do some similar things. I'll talk about that later But the thing that makes this fairly unique is that it gives you options for desktop layout Now it makes it seem on the website that this is actually giving you different desktop environments It doesn't actually say that but it comes across as kind of implied. That's not true Okay, it's it's not what you're seeing here is a very customized version of GNOME And I know just saying like that doesn't look like GNOME all that much That kind of looks like KDE that was my first thought too was like, you know That kind of looks like KDE especially when you see like That their menu that looks kind of like a KDE menu and it they actually have a KDE version So if we click on this and switch to the plasma version, we'll see Something interesting like there is a menu here that looks like the KDE menu like that looks like the kickoff menu, right? Like if you've ever used plasma that looks like the plasma menu But the thing is is once you click on like the time here Yeah, that's GNOME and they are they're all like that and there's nothing wrong with that It's really kind of awesome that they've gone through the trouble of all of these desktop layouts to make them look like they have using a Desktop environment that is known for being anti customization Like if you've used this for a while, you can no longer state that GNOME can't be customized because it can So for example Let's click on the unity one you click on unity. It's going to look like unity It does take three or four seconds for everything to switch by And one thing you'll notice is if you're in a vm and you have to set your Display resolution you have to do that every time you switch themes, which is kind of annoying But that's a vm thing. I'm assuming that if you're on hardware that wouldn't happen But this is the Unity unity version and we'll go through the rest of these layouts when we have installed it So let's go ahead and close this and then we'll install makulu. So the install option is right here Now it does want you to set the server location But I know that the server location is if the default server location is fine for me So i'm just going to go ahead and hit start installation now Here are things that you should know makulu is based on ubuntu I think the reason why I say I think is because the distro watch page in its helpfulness Has told me that it's a debian slash ubuntu distro I know what that means I'm pretty sure that it's all ubuntu and the reason why I say that is because it has a lot of the ubuntu features So it has the ubuntu updater It even says ubuntu in some of that scrolling text that you saw earlier So i'm pretty sure that this is based on ubuntu, but it doesn't use the ubuntu installer It uses calamaris. So we have an interesting icon there for makulu. So we're going to hit next And there is the time zone. That's fine and that keyboard is fine And then here's where the first thing that i'm going to kind of criticize really is There's no option here to choose whether or not you want a swap or not You're going to get a swap whether you like it or not unless you manually partition And it's going to be a pretty sizable swap partition It's going to it's going to take your memory and multiply it by two a factor of two-ish kind of thing So I have four gigabytes of ram assigned to this vm It's giving it 8.4 gigabytes of swap and you can't turn that off again unless you Manually partition another thing that's not here Is encryption so usually when you're you when you're looking at the calamaris installer There's a little checkbox down here That says encrypt drive that is not there So if you need encryption, you'll either have to use a different way of encrypting your drive Which i'm assuming there's a way to actually do that. I'm not actually sure Or you just won't be able to do that using makulu. So let's go ahead and hit next And then this is the standard credentials page. So we're going to enter our credentials here And I suppose we can give it a better name than that Makulu and give it a very strong and complicated password Now here's another thing that i'll of course to criticize They have by default selected login automatically I don't know what the point of asking for a password is if you're going to have it login automatically So i'm going to uncheck that and use the same password for the administrator account So we're going to go ahead and hit next and then install now from what I saw earlier when I installed this This doesn't take all that long And there are some slides here at least one slide or two slides And it shows you some stuff that the desktop can do now The thing is is that you saw that video that they put together at the beginning like the one that you really can't skip by That was really well put together, you know, I had really cool animations very nice drawings and you know Artwork and stuff like that the slides here Kind of leaves something to be desired. I'm just going to put that out there I mean they're showing a monitor there. It looks like it's from the early 2000s or something like that and the you know, it's just not You would think that as they put all that effort into the video They didn't put as much effort into the slides So it would have been actually kind of cool if they just put the video here You know, this is where the video should go and you might get people to actually pay attention during this period here Other than walking away and getting coffee. So I'm going to walk away and get some coffee I will resume the video when this is done. Okay, that's done I'm going to go ahead and hit restart now and then hold done now The reason why I'm going not going to cut away here is because when it Actually restarts we get some interesting Logos, so we're going to hit enter to get past grub And then we're going to see some interesting things happen. I think Yeah, there we go. We get a hippo interesting and also The virtual keyboard comes up. I'm assuming that this is a vm thing And that this is just something that happens when you use a vm, but it's not that big of a deal The regular keyboard still works. So now we're going to go into makulu And this is what you get when you first open up makulu Now the first thing I'm actually going to do before we do anything else Is fix that display resolution. Although I'm probably going to have to do that Multiple times here because we're going to switch some themes here Over and over again, and that's going to mean that the display resolution is going to go away. So 1920 While typing is really hard Like so and there we go. That looks much better now We can close this now. This is the makulu linux setup manager and you don't actually get the desktop manager by default when you First boot into an installed system. That's in the menu. You have to go click on that or whatever It's not also on the desktop there. This is what you get when you've installed it now It gives you links for driver setup the firewall which comes pre-installed Which is nice. I think all linux distributions should have a firewall pre-installed allows you to choose a language It allows you to tinker with your network settings if you need to Select some online accounts back up your system Check for updates and to donate. So those are the things that you get with a welcome with the welcome screen It does not link to the tutorial which I find interesting I thought that it would it does have the tutorial videos here on the desktop Which we may or may not look at later But the point is is that it's not here up front in the welcome screen, which I actually thought it would be but it's not But we're going to go ahead and click on that. None of those things we actually need to do And then this is the default desktop layout and it is very Windows-esque, but you can tell that it's canoam. So this is probably like the arc menu or something I'm not actually sure what it is, but it's it's canoam. So if you click on the clock you get the canoam stuff and It does have a conky. So if you want the conky, there is a way to turn that off if you want I'll show you that here in a minute And other than that we're going to focus on the things that make this interesting So we're going to go back to the desktop manager and take a look at these layouts now If you pay for the pro version you get eight more Layouts now the thing is is that I don't know that I would pay for Eight more layouts and the reason why I say that is because all of these They're kind of the same and I didn't really recognize that Until I switched between them for the first time And you know, I thought that there'd be more variety here and there's really not so there are a few that are fairly unique so for example the unity one which we already saw Looks like this and again, it takes a little while to get set up and it will reset the display resolution We'll change that once we're done changing the themes The other one that looks fairly unique is the one called core This is going to be similar to what you'd see with macOS or something like that And you get the panel on the bottom panel on the top The other ones are all basically windows and I find that a little disappointing because like I said I thought that there were going to be some more variations on themes But apparently there's only three different ways you can do a desktop layout So if we go to this one here called windows, this is the most windows like version And it looks like this. It even has the windows xpsk wallpaper, you know, and the menu looks like this Okay, to me that looks more like the cinnamon Menu, but whatever The flash one also looks kind of like windows. It looks it's a white version of the exact same thing we just went You know past I mean, it's not exactly the same menu, but you kind of get the the I mean, it's the same layout Okay, a little bit more transparency here Different icons set slightly I guess We looked at core dash is going to be a little bit different and that it has the panel in a different position So that looks like this it has the panel along the side, but again same Menu, okay Menu is actually in the exact same spot Simple again looks like windows. I mean, this is basically a window setup It does use a slightly bigger menu and again more transparency But basically the same we looked at unity And the display one here kind of for me is genom because you'd think that the genom one would look more like genom But it doesn't really it looks Like windows you get the genom launcher here, which is by far the most unique launcher that they have here Which I suppose is different enough, but it doesn't have the bar along the top or the icons along the side Like the genom does it looks more like genom with some customization But just again fine But it doesn't really stand out when you have so many that look with this panel on the bottom And the menu here, you know what I mean? And then the last one is the plasma one, which you guessed it looks like windows It's a little disappointing That they all kind of look exactly the same in terms of layout now Like I said, they have slight differences obviously some of the menus are a little bit different and That's great. I mean if that's what? They're aiming for it's fine. It's not as exciting as I thought at first That doesn't mean that this is bad, right? It just doesn't make me Interested in buying another eight desktop layouts that are all probably going to look the same And the thing is is that on their website at least from the brief look that I had around They don't actually show you what those layouts are Like they've put some effort into making a cool video, but they don't really show you what you get when you I mean they tell you what you get with the pro license But they don't really tell you what those extra layouts are what they look like that'd be kind of cool I mean it's possible that it's buried somewhere in the documentation and I just didn't see it But uh, it's definitely not front and center So that is the desktop manager now you'll see that there's four buttons there along the bottom And that's where this becomes a little bit more extensible. So For example, you can use this to enable or disable the conky here Which they're calling the desktop clock, but I'm pretty sure that this is conky You can change the Clock format and stuff like that. You can able enable disable do some Additional options change the desktop icons whether they're there or not Some of this stuff is a setting front end for genome extensions, which is all this stuff is based on This is genome And all the stuff that they've done here with desktop layouts is done through Genome extensions. So just keep that in mind as you go So if you close this it does take us back to the desktop manager, which is nice The panel dock options is basically a front end for What i'm guessing is dash to dock, which is cool. I mean they put a lot of work into creating This kind of stuff so so they've created some front ends for these genome extensions, which is And they've done that so that it kind of meshes into a cohesive experience, which I find really nice The theme manager allows you to change the accent colors and the cursor now the thing about the cursors Yeah, those are all really bad cursors I mean And the one normal one that they have is this one here and look how freaking huge mungus that thing is That's half the screen The I would I would beg them to put some regular cursors in here give you an option for some cursors Out of the box Obviously, you can change this with genome tweaks if you wanted to Until you find a regular cursor, which is pumping that I would definitely do but the Really weird cursors that they have by default is It's not great. I don't like any of these things I mean, this is the one I believe that they have by default and that is at least in some of the layouts It's unwieldy. Okay. Let's just put it that way I'm gonna I don't even know which one to select probably this one here. This is the the least offensive one So I'm gonna close that. Yeah, I should show you the accent color So if you change the accent colors, you'll notice that the folders change color And they do have a couple dark modes So you can select accent colors with different dark modes and that's how you would select dark mode So we can close this And then go to the wallpaper manager, which is is basically a front end for the Genome settings wallpaper setter I'm not actually sure if this is something that they built or if there's something that they're using But it does allow you just to set wallpapers and choose the scale of that wallpaper So you can also get to the settings for the wallpaper from here interestingly the Icons settings are in two different places. So let's go ahead and close this That's the interesting part of makulu in terms of what they've done for customization Now, let me go ahead and change that resolution again. So I should be able to do that. Yep. There we go And I will say in the proper resolution. It looks really nice Although all of the desktop environment or the desktop layouts look really nice despite them looking very similar to one another They all look really nice. So there's nothing much to complain about there And I find that it's cool that they give you the option I would love to see the ability to create your own desktop layout and save it So if you've ever used mate mate has the ability using mate tweaks to Set different desktop layouts. So especially a boom to mate has this, right? And it gives you like four or five options between like the traditional genome setup Genome two setup. I should say and like the old style Unity is there. I believe a redmond version is that it looks like windows And the thing about that which is cool is that you can actually create your own desktop layout And then save it so that if you wanted to switch between them and your own custom ones, you can do that That'd be awesome here. I would guess that they'd probably bury that in the pro version Maybe that's even there in the pro version. I don't know But that would be cool to see for everybody to have access to because that's one of the things that makes Makulu kind of interesting is that it has that theme switcher or desktop layout switcher And if you could add your own desktop layouts to that that'd be kind of cool So before we jump out of this and make a conclusion Let's talk about some of the particulars in terms of apps and other setups So if we go to the menu here, you can see one of the things that's going to just Seriously turn away a lot of people the default browser here is google chrome Now I did a poll the other day on the community tab and some people said they would be okay with it Some people just said it's okay. They just didn't install it And that made up a vast a majority of people But there is quite a lot of people who said they wouldn't even consider Using a distro that has google chrome installed by default And this is one of those distributions that has google chrome installed by default me personally I don't really care all that much. I would just an install and make it in firefox But I would prefer them use firefox by default Just I mean, this is linux. Try to at least promote open source software I would I would hope that you people would do that but the vast majority of people in the world use chrome So they're assuming that if you're a new user, you're probably going to want chrome and that's probably sadly true Let's go ahead and go through accessories here. We have the extensions file The extensions application, which is for economic extensions. You've seen that before Now the interesting choice here for files is that they don't have nautilus here. This is nemo Now nemo is a fantastic file manager. Don't get me wrong, but you gotta remember that this is gnomes. So and gnomes default file manager is nautilus And as far as I know This is the default file manager right here. This is the one that they link to I don't know If nautilus is it's on the system. It is not just nemo is on on the system, which is Highly interesting because if you know anything about gnom, now one of the things that is true is that it is that nautilus used to be Basically gnom, like it's use nautilus used to be like so integrated into gnom. You couldn't separate them You took one thing out. You wouldn't have gnom anymore like the desktop just wouldn't work They've spent a lot of time the gnom guys have Over the last couple years separating those two two outs So I think that that's the reason why it's possible for them to use nemo here with probably With minimal fuss, but it's still interesting that They've managed to separate those out so well that nautilus is just not here now personally I think nemo has spent a way better file manager than nemo or than nautilus is so that's not a big deal for me We have play on linux, which is whatever for whatever reason listed as an accessory here Here we have text info varieties for wallpapers warpinator is going to be a file transfer tool We have what I believe to be gnom weather. Yep, that's gnom weather We also have wine tricks, which is a tool for wine And we have x archiver, which is to unarchive Impressed files in graphics. We have nomax. That's it. No Gimp there or anything like that at least not in that category in terms in terms of Internet we have discord pre-installed and google chrome So both of those things that you don't normally see it pre-installed on all links distribution I'm just gonna put that out there. You don't normally see those I mean, I would install discord anyways because I use discord, but it's not usually Pre-installed on a linux distra. It's just not so we in terms of um, especially You're seeing as we go through this this is a little weird. So you have google chrome. You have discord. You don't have an office suite It's not installed by default. LibreOffice is not here And or any of the other fantastic office switch that we have on offer It's just not installed by default, but they've installed chrome and discord A little weird right trim to sound video. We have droid cam Which is a tool for you to use your webcam or your phone as your webcam if you use an android player mpv is here That's an excellent choice for Viewing videos vlc is also here, which is also a wonderful choice for viewing videos interestingly it doesn't appear to have a Music player of any kind now mpv and and vlc will both play mp3s if you want them to but the fact that it's There's not an option there for like a dedicated music player Interesting that they didn't choose one again, especially in light that they installed discord by default I don't i'm i'm harping on that but it feels weird that they've made that choice right and uh system tools We have bleach bit installed by default uh the comfort editor uh desktop manager Which we actually look like gnomed discs the gw package installer, which is a gooey front end for Installing debt packages g part. It is here G paste which is a clipboard history manager H top is installed by default grub customizer, which will allow you to customize the grub screen A language installer for installing more languages light dm g2k creator settings so you can change the Theme for you for light dm main menu, which is going to be that thing that we saw there Okay, so maybe that's not what I thought that that was going to be like the welcome screen or something But no that takes you to the Launcher for gnom, which even which even though we're not using that particular and now it's there and how to get rid of it Oh escape gets rid of it. That was that's weird That's a little weird. We have uh peace sensor, which is going to be a graphical temperature monitor for your your hardware power statistics and then Go back here. Damn. That's a not. I remember why I don't like kickoff as a menu Sambar shares, so they got samba installed by Default they have some screensaver options A synaptic packet manager is here, but also in terms of graphical software store. You have gnom software here Now the one thing that I don't know is whether or not this is going to be So they have snap store installed by default, but you can also get from the makulu Repose as well right from the gooey here, which is cool. So snaps are installed by default Which is again, this is based on a boom through so that's not that surprising and they also have both gnom terminal and Xfce terminal installs They have time shift installed which is for backups and then finally they have gnom tweaks right here installed Which is cool because then we can go into the appearance and the cursor and see if we can find Literally anything else other than the No, all of those are terrible None of those are the things that I would want Okay, well, that's disappointing. I have to install a different cursor. Anyways, so they do have gnom tweaks installed by default So those are the things that are that make makulu interesting and also a little peculiar I could probably reboot and show you what the memory usage is, but if you've used gnom before, you know It's not going to be very good It's usually about a gigabyte and it is about a gigabyte on makulu as well Other than that, there's not a lot to say now I've now messed around with this for a couple hours including making the video and the time I spent with beforehand and My enthusiasm for it has gone all over the place because when I first saw the the desktop manager I was really excited about it. And even after I used it for a little while, you know, switch between some of the themes You know, it was still really cool. I do think that it's actually really cool I wish that they had a few more themes that were a little bit different, you know So they have unity they have the core and then several of them that kind of look like the windows Standard layout now they obviously have some differences. There are a few different Menus or whatever, but for the most part, they're the standard paradigm of windows that you would normally see on, you know Every desktop environment ever which again is a little bit disappointing for me because I'd like to see some Variety there, but again, it's there and that's kind of cool in terms of everything else I have to give them some props for taking gnome And making it very customizable. They have tweaks installed by default. They have the gnome extension manager installed by default and that is Really good because gnome by default is not very customizable This is a version of gnome that has a lot of customizations done to it But also would allow you to use a lot of customizations So that's actually really good now in terms of all the other stuff that goes along With a linux distro This is going to run basically like ubuntu would right? It's going to have a lot of the quirks that ubuntu has It's going to have the ubuntu software Updater, you know, I mean that thing's going to pop up every from time to time and ask you to update So that's going to happen. Uh, it's going to have the normal quirks of using ubuntu in the terminal So you're going to use apt install stuff And you know, it does not seem to have the Obsessions with snaps that ubuntu does so for example when we opened up the gnome software center You notice that it opened right up, right? So that is not a snap No snap in the history of snaps has ever opened that fast So we know that it's not a snap and that's again a good thing It has snaps installed But it doesn't seem to have the reliance on them that ubuntu seems to have Maybe that's the reason why they've gone with google chrome because google chrome doesn't have a snap As far as I know, maybe they do it's just not official I don't actually don't know the one thing we know for sure is that chromium by default in ubuntu is a snap Firefox by default in ubuntu is a snap. So maybe that's the reason why they've made that choice You never know My favorite part about it is that this here would actually make me kind of want to use gnome And it takes a lot of effort To make me want to use gnome. You know what I mean? It does bother me a little bit now. I said we can I can show you this again You'll find this thing here all over the place upgrade to pro. It's in the menu I haven't noticed any pop-ups or anything like that. So it's not totally annoying But and I'm assuming that you can probably delete this if you want it to yeah You can you can remove that if you want to and you can remove it from the menu as well But the point is is that that's kind of there and one place is probably enough But again, you know, you want your distro to make some money But it feels a little pushy to me, but also not as pushy as it probably could be I don't know It's just something that you kind of have to keep in mind that this distro does have a pro version And they want you to upgrade it to it for sure. So anyways, that is makulu linux Just a very brief look at makulu linux. It's interesting It's more interesting than I thought it would be when I first decided I was going to take a look at it So that's what I consider a win. It's definitely not one of those distributions. Like I think like, uh I'm not sure why this exists because you can tell why this exists They've done a good job of doing some unique things and that's not something you can say for a lot of linux distributions So if you have comments on makulu, you can leave those in the comment section below You can follow me on twitter at linux cast if you want to follow me on Mastodon or any of those other social media networks You can find those links in the video description You can support me on patreon at patreon.com slash linux cast just like all these fine people I really truly do appreciate everybody who supports me on patreon and youtube I can't even begin to say how thankful and grateful I am to everyone who does support me It comes as a constant surprise that or that anybody actually wants to do so. So thanks everybody who does support me Thanks everybody for watching. I'll see you next time