 Hey everyone, welcome back to the Nintendo Prime Podcast, man it's been a while. You might as well consider this season 2 at this point. As you're seeing in the video version, at least a lot of things have changed, but things are also different with the audio version because there's more people here. For starters, Eric Morris here as always, and we have a new co-host who's going to be here, I assume almost every week, in 5G gaming over there. Hey guys, what's up? If you ever hear me calling Chris, that's just because that's his first name. I get it all jumbled in my head. Yep, it happens. And then we have to have a special guest this week. He has not been on in over a year. I'm way too long my man, HMK. Oh yeah. How y'all doing today? Finally got that new video fixed today, huh? Oh yeah. Man, don't ever remind me when you're like, you look at your video and you're like, man this is a great, great video and then you find out one speck of life. Man! And then you just gotta take it down. I was listening to it and I was like, do I say something to him or does he know? Is that when you take out the gas can, pour it on there and just light your rig on fire? Basically. Alright, we're just going to get right into it. Things are going to be a little bit different now in season 2 of the podcast because I'm going to be using a timer. So we get through a lot more topics. Normally we used to only have like two to four topics. Now we have a lot more and we're not going to spend as much time on each one despite there being more people because that makes sense, right? Right. Basically it means my babbling is going to stop somehow. I believe it when I see it. Yep. Alright, so our first topic. We're actually going to be talking about the Switch Lite. That's right, we haven't had a podcast since that thing was announced. The Switch Lite. We also have a revised Switch with better battery life. It's coming out next month. I don't think it's a date on that yet, have they? It's just going to appear when it appears. Wait, the revised Switch? Yep. I think it's, okay, so I think it's like August for most regions. Yeah, August, but like no, we're almost to August and we still don't know. August. August what? But it's coming out September for the UK if I remember correctly. Yeah, Switch Lite is September 20th. So we have a date for that, but I don't know. I mean, I guess they don't consider this revision like a new launch. So it's just going to appear when it appears. Race stocks happen. That's when they're going to be coming in. Yeah, they're going to phase out all the older models. Yeah. So what are you guys thinking of the Switch Lite? I guess let's start there because that's like the new system. What are you guys' thoughts on it? Man, honestly, I was excited a little bit when it first got leaked or whatever. And then when I first saw the thing, I was like, okay, these colors are cool, I guess. And then I'm like, I need no price, 200 bucks, not bad. I need no battery life as soon as I saw battery life. I'm sorry. My excitement level basically like plummeted, man, because if I'm going to get a Switch Lite that strips down a lot of its features and only for an exchange of like 30 more minutes of battery life. And the fact that the revision Switch is coming out before the light and it comes with more features, it's not that much bigger, it's not that much more bulkier than the Switch Lite, and it comes with way more battery life. Honestly, I was reconsidering the Switch Lite, but now it's a hard pass for me. I mean, what made you get it is if a special Zelda edition was coming out when it was Awakening. Don't do that. Don't do that. Because it does release the same day. So I'm just saying, but they haven't announced anything yet. Shadow drop. So 5G, what are your thoughts on the Switch Lite? Yeah, I got to kind of echo what HMK is saying. I'm not super excited. I like the idea that they're finally bringing some color into the Switch models. We've just had the black, plain black Switch for forever with the color for Joy-Cons. Having the actual unit be more colorful looks great. You know, adding a little color to the buttons, if you can call white a color versus black, but you know, it's changing things up a little bit. So visually, that's kind of nice. I'd like to see different colors. Not wild about many of the launch colors, but I like the idea they're going for. But having no TV output is a hard sell for me. Now that I'm used to this system that I can put in its little toaster and I can be playing it on my TV or streaming it, you know, doing a lot of live streaming. So being able to play a game and then, alright guys, I'm leaving the stream and then I just pick it up and I keep playing after the stream's over. Well, it doesn't really work. So maybe it's a secondary thing. You know, I do have five different 3DSs, but I'm not going to go rushing to the store on launch day to pick up one. Sure. I mean, for me, I was never excited about the prospect of this system a year ago when it was being rumored. Right. But I've kind of come around to what the system is because I kind of realize of all of us here, I don't think this is for us at all. No. We own switches for starters. So why would we pick up a slightly smaller, technically worse version? If we're going to pick up one, we're going to get the one that has better battery life, that has everything else. And obviously, all of us, well, maybe not Eric. Eric plays a lot in handheld. But all of us put it on TV, we stream, we do stuff like that, videos and stuff. So I think for us that we see a lot more value in it that way. Plus I like playing on my TV. I just do. I also like taking it with me and I can't do that with light. But it's only $200. And that is the new 3DS price point. Yep. I was going to say. And they don't make 3DS games anymore. So I kind of think this is just the 3DS replacement. And when I view it like that, I'm like, holy crap, 3DS owners are getting a massive boost here. They're going from 3DS to 240p gaming to 720. That's a huge jump for them. Right. So it's not for me, but for people who own 3DS looking for the next thing, I think this is exactly who it's for. Yeah, it has all these cut features. And for parents buying their kids' systems. But they're not going to, like, oh, all these cut features, they're not even going to be thinking about that when they're gaming. Right. So, I mean, besides a couple of the games that you have to have Joy-Cons for, but even then, okay, well, the chances of parents buying those games are pretty slim. I think Mario Party's the one that... Right. I don't know why that doesn't support traditional controls. I played it. There's no excuse. It doesn't need the motion controls. It doesn't. I haven't played it. It doesn't make the game better. It really doesn't. I thought it was fun, though. Yeah, it's a really fun game, but it's like, okay, everything I'm doing with the motion, like, why isn't this a button press? Like, why can we not have that option? Like, every Mario Party game forever. Right. Basically the same question we were asking halfway through the Wii's console life. Why? Like, I can understand, you know, like, one-two switch that's built specifically around the Joy-Cons. Right. Or like, Labo or something. But... Right. Mario Party doesn't need to be that way. So, maybe they'll patch it, because I think that is one game that parents might buy my mistake for. If they've been patched already, I mean, it's not that recent anymore. No, and it's sold a lot. It's almost like 7 million copies sold. Like, they should patch it, especially since I assume it'll be on sale this holiday. And speak of a game that should be, like, a target for DLC, how easy would it be to put out, you know, 20 new minigames? So, yeah, they should be patching it. Actually, let us play Mario Party online. And there's that. That's my biggest complaint, more than, like, more minigames and more maps, is, hey, you added online, finally. We've been asking for this forever. But it's not really online. Not really. Oh, a handful of minigames. Okay. That's not what we care about. We want to play Mario Party. Why can I play Katan online on my Switch? I can play Monopoly online on my Switch with my friends. But I can't play Mario... I can play Uno online with my friends. But I can't play Nintendo's own board game-esque game? That doesn't make any sense. I think I can even go to the Amiibo Festival back on Wii U online. So, with friends, and I can message them and chat with them locally. Anyways. Alright. So, back to the Switch Minute. Yeah. So what are you thinking? Yeah, right. Well, the Switch Light. I heard this. Yeah, sorry, Switch Minute. Switch Light. Same difference. Yeah, right. Do we know for sure that for sure it does not have the capability of video out? Because I know you can't dock it. Yes. Nintendo said there's no video out signal. And held only. Okay. Because I was like, what about those third-party plug docks? USB-C port does not have video out. Okay. So, it said it was also only capable of 720p. So, even if it had video out, you wouldn't want to have some of those games on your big screen. Yeah. Like Xenoblade Chronicles 2 had like the worst resolution ever. Oh, dude, don't even remind me about that. Oh, boy. I was like, man, I could play some Xenoblade right now. And I put on my Switch and I'm like, never again. In handheld it looks okay. Imagine handheld mode in a 40-inch TV. It's like soggy toast on the Switch. It's importable. It's so bad. I mean, I don't know. Here's the thing. I debate sometimes whether in handheld mode if it looks better than Xenoblade Chronicles ported 3DS. Oh, I see. I mean, the resolution is looking pretty similar to me. Xenoblade Chronicles, the first game was already like not that good looking of a game. Right. Well, yeah. It was on a non-HD system. So, that's not... Yeah. Right. So, I'm going to give it that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, come on. It was running on 3DS. No one thought that was going to happen. So, that's really cool. Right. Impressive, but... Can we at least get 540p in handheld Nintendo? Is that... I mean, this is a first-party, second-party game. Like 540p. Is that to much to ask? Yeah. Slightly higher than standard dev, please? Please? No? Yeah. No. It's definitely too much to ask. Still a really good game. But man... Yeah, it is. Amazing game. I love that game so much. Like, monolithsoft, I love you guys. You make amazing games. But can we put some effort into the performance and the... Like, it's okay to cut back on... People will accept no blades of grass if it's in 720p minimum. Right. And like, actually a stable 30fps. I don't know. Have you seen those people complaining about the puddles of water when Spider-Man was being promoted? That's true. Well, here's what I don't get to. Monolithsoft works like... Oh, yeah. The water looks like gas. Gasoline or fuel or whatever. Well, they're saying oil, there you go. Yeah. Is it going to be fixed on PlayStation 5? Oh, God. No. Well, my thing was... Monolithsoft works with like the Zelda team all the time. So like, they didn't learn anything from the Breath of the Wild team. Like, hey look, we have blades of grass and we're still running pretty much in HD. So... We have a much bigger open world than you... Like, your areas aren't actually as big as our giant open world, so... Right. Yeah. But they also have more creatures, big creatures roaming. I don't know. It would just be... I think they just need a new engine. Whatever engine they're using, they just got it. Time to upgrade. Time to get into something more capable. I think they're still using the engine they used back on the Wii. So... Yeah. I believe it. So in other words, Switch Lite, not for me. Yeah. I didn't think Switch Lite was ever for you. In fact. Was ever for you. So, I get asked sometimes, like, because, you know, I bought my son a Switch for his birthday. Like, oh, do you regret it? Not getting him a light? Well, my son plays it on docked mode. Like, crazy. And even when he's in handheld, what he does is, he is the weird... I've never seen anyone do this. Maybe this is just what kids do. He'll take the Joy-Cons off. He'll put them in the grip. And then he'll just set the Switch down on the couch so it can't even suck in air. Just terrible. And he'll just play it like that, looking down at it. He doesn't even care. Tabletop mode got a kick set. Doesn't care. What? My daughter does the same thing. The only one who I think does it right is my little... This one, my little three-year-old, when he uses the Switch, he just plays it in normal handheld mode. He just kicks back, lays down, holds it up and plays. And I'm like, that's how you're supposed to do it. What are you guys doing? If you want to use the grip, put it on the TV. At least put it like, prop it up. Oh, boy. I don't know. I haven't seen a lot of kids play in Switch, but I'm gonna start paying more attention if they're just taking it off and setting it down and putting it in the grip. But it's like, okay. Well, if that's what people want, then... I mean, at this point, they might as well be gaming on their phone with a controller. I mean, that's pretty much what that kind of experience is like at that point. Hey! Well, Switch can do it all. Honestly, don't. Wait. The Switch Lite doesn't have a kickstand, does it? Nope. Okay, so then what are you supposed to do with, like, one-two switch if you have to have the Dexter Joy-Cons? You prop it up. How do you get the charging stand? Oh, yeah, any one of the official stands out there. Okay. And Nintendo will say you buy the charging stand because that props it up. Okay. Because they have a portable charging stand. Gotcha. I just want it's actually kind of neat, but I mean... I'll just plug a cord in. It's okay. I don't need to spend 40 bucks. Yeah. All right. Onto the next topic. We got some Joy-Con drift issues happening in the news. I don't know if you guys have heard. Or maybe you guys haven't... Do you guys have any experienced Joy-Con drift? Any of you guys? What are you talking about? It's recent. According to Nintendo, it's recent. What are you talking about? It's a recent issue. So, I actually have been experiencing Joy-Con drift for a while now with my original two great Joy-Cons from when I first got the thing. But I don't... It doesn't really affect me that much because, one, I mostly play off a pro controller. But every time I have to play on handheld mode, I feel the drift, especially when I'm playing Breath of the Wild. So, every time I stop moving with Link, he always looks over to the left. I'm like, man, what are you doing? And he told me to get started on games like Smash Bros. That actually messes me up when I play on handheld. The very few times I play on handheld mode. But it hasn't been affecting me lately because I've recently replaced my Joy-Cons. I saw my great Joy-Cons are charging on the charging station. But now I'm using my new Mario Red Joy-Cons a lot more frequently, which is sweet. They're on the newer side, so they're not drifting yet. But when they do, they're going to... A lot of trick or content. Wait a second. If you looked up the little lip on... Because each of the joysticks has like a little rubber lip. If you lift it up and you spray some electrical contact cleaner in there and swish it around for like five minutes, it'll fix the drift problem for like ten to six months. It's only a temporary fix, but really what you should do is now Nintendo fixes the model warranty. But we'll get to that in a moment, even though Nintendo's pretending this is recent and not a hardware issue. You know why. We all know why. 5J, have you been experienced in Joy-Con drift at all? Only a little bit. And again, just with that original set, but I do play in handheld mode with that original set from launch day. And if it ever does happen, I can usually fix it just by kind of hitting it the opposite direction and it just kind of corrects itself. It's very slight. It doesn't happen all the time. So I'm not experiencing a very intense degree of it so far it isn't really interfering with my experience. We're not making the switch sound very appetizing. Maybe you should get a light. Have you experienced any Joy-Con drift? No, actually I haven't. I don't think I've played enough to experience Joy-Con drift. My Joy-Con hasn't worn down enough, or the contact pad hasn't worn down enough. So I've experienced Joy-Con drift on my left Joy-Con on my original blue set. Because at launch, I had to launch Joy-Cons and then I bought blue ones at launch because hello, Nintendo Prime are the colors blue. Why wouldn't I buy the blue ones? I don't even have the launch ones anymore. I kind of regret selling them now. So yeah, I've experienced a drift and I did fix it a couple of times now with electrical contact cleaner. It's more like a Band-Aid than a fix. It doesn't work forever. And eventually the contact pads, because we know Caspawn Wave tore it apart and realized, hey, they're using graphite. That's a very weak metal and literally his Joy-Con's a grooves in it where there shouldn't be grooves in the graphite pad. Well, I mean, you take a look at pencils. Hello, graphite. It's just a very cheap-out thing on Nintendo and very poorly designed and that's why it's happening. And it's been happening forever. If you go back on YouTube, you can find videos back in 2017 with 500,000-plus views where people talking about Joy-Con drift and how big an issue it is and fixes for it because it's been going on since the launch units and it's still been going on and the problem is it's existed in every new pair of Joy-Con that have come out. Now, I have a theory. Because Nintendo internally, apparently, have come out as Nintendo of America internally to their support to staff telling them, hey, look, if people call about Joy-Con drift, just fix it. We don't care if it's a warranty. Don't ask for proof of purchase. Heck, if it's someone who had the issue happen before and we charged them for it, give them a refund. Fix it again. Nintendo is basically admitting internally, hey, this is on us. We screwed up. This is basically Nintendo's way of doing a recall without doing a recall and panicking people over the holidays. They have too many big games coming up like this point. But that's Nintendo of America. And tons of people on my channel have already said, hey, I called. It's totally true. They're even covering shipping, which they don't always do. They're just taking care of everyone. Including people that have multiple Joy-Con, what they're doing is allowing them to make two different orders so they can always have a set of Joy-Con on them. They don't have to give up playing their switch if they only play with Joy-Con. That is customer service. In America, anyways, Nintendo is doing really well by customers because they have admitted internally it's their own fault. That's good because it means they're going to redesign it at some point because they're going to keep losing money if they keep doing free repairs nonstop. Right. It's not unusual either. PlayStation 4, you said the issue with the rubber breaking on the sticks. They fixed it. The launch switch, Joy-Con, the left Joy-Con, the antenna, ran the wrong direction, caused interference. They fixed that. They're going to fix this. I don't know if it will be fixed this year, but I have a theory that Nintendo might have known about this for a while and it is going to be fixed, especially with the light coming out. Once the last time we had a new color pair of Joy-Cons release. The last one? Was there one after Pokemon? Smash. Although it wasn't really color. Smash. It announced actually the new ones. There was purple and orange. Those weird color combinations. The ones that are so close to being Waluigi and Wario colors, but they're not. What? What made so much sense for those to come up with that? With Smash? Wait, Mario Tennis. Yeah, totally. Anyways. It's a really weird combo. I get that they're kind of Halloweenish colors, but I would have paired them up differently and I would have also released an orange set on it's own. They would have released it with Smash so that way Waluigi is in Smash. Oh, jeez. I'll do that. Sticker on your grip. There he is. So I have a theory because we basically haven't had new Joy-Cons at all this year until this upcoming October. And now we have the Switch Lite as well in September. New revised Switch next month. I wonder if Nintendo has known this whole time that they stopped releasing new ones. Like, they could have did some for Mario Maker. Could have did some for Yoshi, but they didn't. And I think it's because they knew about this issue and they are working at manufacturing level to change it and they didn't want to announce any new ones until they fixed it. Now, we'll know soon enough because when they do come out, as I said, small and way, shout out to that guy. He does a lot of console tear-downs. He'll actually tear it down and see if they actually fixed it, which they better have for the light. For real. Oh my gosh, if people got to send their entire system in for the light, that's going to be a problem. That's going to be a lot. People are going to be mad. I'm just excited to see someone do the durability test for that thing. Yes. Can't wait for the 1000 foot drop from a drone. Yep. Oh, the Joy-Con doesn't attach this time, so the Switch survived last time. Will it survive this time? All one unit? Although, someone will drop a brick on it and it'll survive or something. I want to see how kid-proof it is. I really do, right? Well, would you like me to get one and then get my daughter really upset? She'll chuck it across the room. Get there you go. If it could survive her, it could survive me. If it could dodge her and she could dodge her, wait. Perfect. So, are we happy with how Nintendo's responded to this? Because this has been going on for two years. This isn't like even... Nintendo, I know externally acts like it's recent, but it's not recent. I mean, the fact that their tweet said recent issues. Not recent? I'm excited. I'm happy they're taking precautions, but I'm not happy that it took them so long to do it and what it took for them to actually, you know, bulk up and be like, okay, yeah, we got to fix these things. You mean mainstream media actually covering it? Well, that and the lawsuit. And they'll end up in such a lawsuit too. I don't know if the... That's really what it took that part does not... Well, here's the thing. I don't know if the lawsuit really played a role. I say this because as I was looking up information on the issue in 2017, there was actually a lawsuit filed against Nintendo about it in 2017. And they got settled on the court. So, I don't know if the lawsuit really had much to do with it. I think it had to do with Kotaku put up that article and there are zero articles about Joy-Con Drift on any major media outlet in 2017 or 2018. There's nothing. We didn't even talk about it. It literally, nothing existed until Kotaku put up a piece. So, the only people talking about it was the lawsuit filed in 2017 and then people on social media. There was no actual, like, traditional news coverage and the moment there was traditional news coverage, what happens? Every major media outlet is now reaching out to Nintendo and asking them so they finally respond. Whereas us YouTubers reach out, they don't say anything. Yeah, nope. Hey, go to support.Nintendo.com Oh, okay, for what? You're gonna, what about my issue? Yeah, you gotta drop down for that and Joy-Con Drift. We're not the people that talk about that. Call support. I mean, that's basically what they ended up saying anyways but at least they acknowledged it was an issue. Yeah. They didn't specify that exactly though either. Oh, that's true. They didn't specifically say the Drift issue. They just said Joy-Con issues. Well, they were, no, here's the thing. They were asked specifically about it and they said it's a recent issue. So they were referenced in the initial response. Internally, the internal email doesn't actually say Joy-Con Drift but it's kind of like inferred and everyone is calling about it's getting a fix in the US so it's clearly about that. I wonder if they'll fix all Joy-Con issues for free now. That would be nice. Interesting. They have to. At this point, you have to have good faith because there's a lot of people that have bought seven pairs of them that have an issue with all seven and they're just not happy. That's 80 bucks a pop. Oh, yeah. Oh, we wanted all the colors but then they don't work. Right. I guess we can move on to the next topic which is actually about a game. Holy cow. We haven't had a game topic in a while. We'll probably ask the chain. Unfortunately, I didn't get to play it at E3. We had a behind closed-door demo and that's what all the information coming out now is from that demo. Oh. It comes on August 30th. Every bit of coverage I've seen, every impression video, every bit of footage, everyone who's actually gone hands-on has told me that this is a sleeper game of the year type of game. If you love Nier Automata, you're going to love this. It's that and more. They went beyond what Nier did and they obviously have that kind of experience and apparently they went above and beyond in this one. This is just in a little demo they got to play. This isn't even the full game. So, we'll watch a lot of footage on it today, especially. Some things you'll learn about it is it's not an HD, that's for sure. Oh. Running the Xenoblade problem. It's not quite as bad as Xenoblade but it's definitely not running at like 1080 or 720. Digital Foundry doesn't know either because they couldn't put their tools to test on it. They're going to wait for the final version. The footage I saw, like I watched Digital Foundry's video, it looked fine. I think it's at 720 and it's not 60 FPS. They targeted 30 which is going to disappoint some people but apparently they did that with Nier as well because it's a bigger, more open world and so Platinum's trying to get away, I guess, from the Bayonetas where it's a more enclosed area and that's why they can do 60 FPS. They're trying to expand out these big, massive spaces and that's why they dropped it even in Nier and now they're going to drop it in this game. That to me doesn't bother me as much because so many games in Switch are 30 anyways. I mean Breath of the Wild 30. And again, as long as it can hold a consistent 30. Yeah. And we won't know until the final build. Some said, oh, we noticed a drop here and there but it was like very, like, you know, maybe from 30 to 28 or something which personally I probably wouldn't have noticed that. But I gotta say, setting aside the performance metrics, because again, these are not even close to final builds and Platinum, oh, has Platinum ever released a game in the end that wasn't fantastic? Let me Legend of Korra. Oh, there it is. I knew someone was going to bring up Legend of Korra. Like, I'm like, let me go into and if people really, really, really, really, really, really want to get into it. Here we go. Star Fox Zero. Yeah, I'd say those games that people didn't like, like they really, really didn't like them. I don't know if it makes them objectively bad, but yeah, Star Fox Zero people were really not into. I personally enjoyed it. I liked Star Fox Zero. I didn't like the motion controls. I could, they could have did away with that because it was better, but what was interesting about it, here's the thing, a lot of the faults with Star Fox Zero, I don't even think it's Platinum games. I think it's Miyamoto. Miyamoto was told, you need to make the Wii U GamePad matter. And he's like, okay, it's way too late in the life cycle to even try to do that. That's not what we're arguing about. I know, I know. Platinum game, I know. Okay, Platinum game that Nintendo doesn't touch. Anyways, no, I just, I'm very impressed with this game. The entire combat system. There's platforming, even though the character can't jump, it's just crazy blowing my mind how that works. The story, apparently looks super in-depth. Which, I guess a lot of Platinum games don't always go super in-depth with the story, but this is like all the side characters, there's like a whole town to explore. This, I can't, not like, I know I kind of already blew my gaming budget this year, but I feel like I'm picking this up. What are you guys thinking? I'm actually stupid excited for Astral Chain because, you know, the guy who's the lead game designer on Nier Automata, he's the one who's directing this game. And Nier is, ooh, I love Nier. And I cannot wait for another game like this. And you know, of course, it's being supervised by Hateki Kamiya. And, you know, whenever he's involved most of the time, you know, things come out great. I'm a sucker for these super stylistic RPG type, with a hint of collecting stuff. That's why I love Nier so much. But Astral Chain, the only thing that has me worried is that I'm not worried about the gameplay. I'm not worried about the release. I'm not worried about what it could contain. Am I the only one because when you're saying all the things about the graphics, it's not going to hit 1080p, it's not going to be 60fps, it just looks very muddy to me. Like, I'm like, are you guys going to polish this up by the time of release? Because, you know, it just looks right. The style doesn't look bad. The designs don't look bad. It's just that like, when it's in motion, I'm like, am I wearing glasses? Do I have to wipe my lenses or something? I don't know, that's just me. I'm super excited. I hear you on that front. I, obviously in an ideal world I think all these games should, I'd love them to look better. I think what's interesting about this game is like, when I play a little bit in the air and then I go to this, I think in many regards, this game looks better visually in some ways. And I wonder if they pushed the aesthetic, they pushed the particle effects and the lighting to a point that this probably, or a guarantee, would have been better as like a PlayStation game versus a Switch game. Nintendo's funding it, so it's a Switch game. Right. I'll say this. At least it's releasing unlike Scalebound. True. There is that. I mean, even despite the muddiness, I'd say it's going to be a bad game, of course not. It's like Xenovate Chronicles 2. We can talk about how muddy it is. It's a fantastic game. It just kind of sucks that on the flip side, we got to deal with all this. I don't know if it's a million in my opinion, or something. Monoliths have a whole different story because they've had access to the Switch for a long time. Yeah. What do you think about it? I never played near, so I don't have some of that emotional attachment to oh, it's like this game, or it's the head developer of that game. I don't have that coming with me. It looks really cool. Boom lighting in games. Keep adding more and more of that in there. But this is just one of those games that, for whatever reason, I can't even quantify why I'm not all that interested. I can't pinpoint anything that to me doesn't look interesting, or it's not going to be well done. I don't even mind muddy graphics like the original Xenovate. We bring up that game a lot in here with this podcast. But graphics aren't the end all, it's not 1080p crystal clear. It wouldn't stop any of us from playing the Zelda game. Exactly. I can't put my finger on it, but it's one of the games that I'm just, I don't know if I'm ever going to get around to it. I think some of it, because there was a couple of videos I was watching, and I guess the general takeaway what a lot of people are concerned with this game are kind of like what you're saying where everyone thinks the game looks good, but nobody could really figure out what the game is from just watching. The way Nintendo's really coverage of it, the way platinum has, even some of these previews, it's like, yeah, they're telling you the game is good. But they can't get into exactly why because a lot of it's a gameplay feel, like how it feels to play, you can't convey that without other people, although they're already being out. So everyone that's played it kind of has, oh yeah, we agree, that's what it feels like. You can see these comparisons by some of them, hey, it's kind of like Nier, because that's something people have played. So it's like, look, if you played that, that kind of sets the expectation for what this is. If you haven't played that, then you're probably still utterly confused, because they have done a very poor job marketing this game. This is the game, Eric, remember when I said they were over-marketing Xenoblade Chronicles? They need to over-market this game. This is the game that needs that over-marketing, because it's a new IP and no one knows what the hell is going on. It's like a month to go. This is the game that needs the Xenoblade Chronicles 2 marketing. That was the third game in the franchise. We didn't need that kind of marketing. We understood what Xenoblade Chronicles is about. Granted, a lot of people hype what I'm like, dude, we're going on like 15 minute tirades in the middle of a Nintendo Direct. We don't need this. Right. Has there been any kind of explanation of the story at all? You're a cop. You're a good cop, absolutely. There might be a twist in the game at some point because you enslave these astral beings. That's why they're chained to you. How that's morally all right, but you're a good cop. Whatever. Maybe it's to fight the bigger evil, because there's a bigger evil going on. People are going extinct, but it's all these random, people are going extinct and you got to defeat these things that are killing us. You're solving crimes and it's like, I mean, you could be talking about L.A. Noir at this point. But there's no, really no story aspect that we have. Well, they've been very coy on the story. The people that played the demo, they get to experience a lot of what the world is like and talking to characters and like, yeah, there's going to be this crazy story, but they're not really telling us much. And I don't know, I don't remember knowing much about the Bayonetta games before they came out story-wise. And those stories ended up being pretty good. Maybe it's just a platinum games thing. Maybe. I'm just trying to figure out why. You know, because, yeah, it looks good. It looks like it could be, I mean, I like the concept. It could just be Sakurai. Sakurai doesn't like any story details ever being known when he does story and smash. And he gets mad when people stream it. Whoops. So from what I remember about any type of lore or a story with astral change is like the big predating story is that something happened in the world where these astral things just start coming out or the floor start coming out or dimensions and then they just start killing everybody. And then humanities are like, okay, we need to do something about these things or humanity is going to get wiped out. And then that's when they develop the astral chains. And then the technology allows them to capture these things if they ever decide to come out on dimension and then use it against others. So then after that, society slowly but surely worked its way back up after the invention of this thing. But now the little predating story is like, oh, you're using this kind of power and saving these other beings and you don't know what you're dealing with and then, you know, stuff hits the fan. And that's basically the predating story to it. Yeah, isn't the city that you're in the only city for humanity right now? Like everything else is wiped out? Yeah. Sounds like a standard monster movie but instead of just kill them, it's like, hey, let's capture them and write them. Well, and I honestly think there's going to be a point in the story where you finally figure out why were they destroying you. And maybe they're actually, maybe they're not all bad or maybe they are all bad. I have no idea. So you don't feel bad about capturing and using them because they are all bad. Maybe it's not even a capture. Maybe it's just a way that they have to be linked to you. I have no idea. We don't know. That's the thing. We need more information on this game. Right. A demo would be cool. I'll love a demo. I'll love a... You did it for Damon X Machina. Come on, let's go. I know in the trailer that I just watched, it was really cool to see that the five different types, with the blades, the bow, and you have the same five all games. The fighter, the dog and the axe and you can switch them out and fight. So you can be in the middle of a combo and switch out to an archer and then switch back. Even then, people were like, how does that work? Because there's hardly any gameplay of it anywhere. It's like, would have been cool to see people doing these advanced moves and you're just not even showing it off. Not even on Treehouse. During E3 they didn't really do a good job. This to me is going to be one of those games that's going to be like, everyone's going to review it as a 9 plus but nobody's going to play it. And it's really going to disappoint me. Because Platinum has kind of a reputation of they release these amazing games that hardly anyone plays them. And part of it is because they are hard to market sometimes. Bayonetta's kind of got to a point where it's become easier and easier to market Bayonetta. But it's more established IP now and a female character and she's all her personality is sexualized which makes her being sexualized okay and then everyone just kind of like freaks out and has conversations about it all the time. But it's a known IP now. Whereas every time they release a new IP it's kind of like it looks cool. Like when they show a scale bomb looks cool. Still don't know what it is. Something about dragons you ride them you fight things cool. And that's all we ever got to know about that game. I'm still mad about that. I'm hoping it comes back at some point. I don't on the switch. On switch or next gen like you know hit on Xbox. Let's go like all that game. I'm so excited for that. Anyways alright. This is another game. This one has not come out at the time we were recording this podcast unless you were lucky and it showed up early to your house from Amazon shipping or something. Some time you guys hear this you will already probably all of you guys probably listening have already played it. It's a pretty popular game although that ain't not as popular as some of Nintendo's other IPs. I think the best selling game still 2.86 million and that was fates which was like they Pokemon it with that game. So it was like two different versions. That was it. That's it. It's not like everyone's like oh it's such a huge franchise. It's like it sells like Kirby numbers. It's not that big. But this is switch. Every franchise that comes out on switch that's established sells more copies on switch than anything else. So I mean we could talk about sales but I think I want to kind of wait until next week to talk about that because then we'll have launch figures and we'll have a grander idea hey is this outperforming other games here in launch. What are your guys' thoughts on Fire Emblem 3 House? Are you even excited for it? It's a very different game it feels like to me. Compared to normal Fire Emblem. Okay so the thing with me in Fire Emblem is that I was never huge on Fire Emblem and a lot of people take that the wrong way. It's like oh you don't like Fire Emblem. I never said that. It's just that I just never piqued my interest. That's it. 3 House definitely looks cool. It looks big. It looks gigantic. It's gonna be like 400 plus hours. It's gonna be crazy. Oh man. I might just make this my first true, complete Fire Emblem playthrough ever. If you haven't tried an IP and you're like I know it's good but I've just never felt it. Always try it once. At least once. And if you don't get into it it's cool. I mean it's fine. Not every IP has to be for everyone. I mean I've played Fire Emblem games before but I mean it just never really hooked me. So I know how they play. I know what they're about and I know enough lore to get me by. So Fire Emblem 3 Houses you know it looks really dope and but it looks like such a if I were to really get down and dirty with it I would not see the live day for like a month. Well that's a Fire Emblem joke. That's Fire Emblem. Yeah but with Fire Emblem Fates or Awakening I can go outside with it. You can go outside with Switch. Yeah I can go outside with Switch. Okay I don't know maybe. Walk outside and you just burst into flames because you haven't seen natural light in two months. Just find your favorite sitting tree and that's where you sit at the play during the day and then you're like oh man I've been outside too long today and go back inside. Deplay it on your TV. How about you 5J how are you feeling on Fire Emblem 3 Houses over there? You know I still have the remnants of my initial impression of the E3 trailer which was really long and text heavy you know it wasn't a great showing of the game so there's that kernel of me that still says oh this is going to be too complicated and text heavy and boring but all the trailer since then have been much much better you know it's basically Harry Potter Fire Emblem. Well I can tell you right now it's going to be a text heavy game. Fire Emblem has always been text heavy. It's actually kind of always heavy. They've always been text heavy because it's a very story driven experience and in this case you're literally a school teacher or something and you walk around the school and you're talking to students and like there's things, there's missions and there's obviously times when you're doing the traditional Fire Emblem stuff but I will warn you that only makes up like a third of the game is the actual combat stuff. Fire Emblem keeps doing new things you know these ones you have children in them and now on this one you've got a whole school it's kind of like you doing the thing where these two pair off and then they have a special child that's like the combination of those two characters it's like doing that without doing that again you know. I like how they're trying these new things I like how huge it's getting I don't know it's going to be a game that I'll complete it's a game that I am interested in getting for me I was always more for the advanced war style of game than Fire Emblem but I do still enjoy them Have you played Tiny Metal? Yeah, I liked Tiny Metal but the art style was kind of getting under my skin a little bit so there's a second one out and I'm interested in checking out that the second one apparently is even better the makers behind have been contacting me because I reviewed the original one and I was like I don't know if I want to dive back in because I suck a lot of hours I suck a lot of hours in the first Tiny Metal So Fire Emblem you were talking about the text heaviness I kind of like and it's like Mass Effect if you ever play that game there's a lot of combat stuff but there's a lot of text and a lot of decisions and that's what this game is there are so many different endings to Fire Emblem 3 Houses literally will take you 400 plus hours because you'll have to start over again even with the same house and make different decisions along the way to get different outcomes it is crazy in depth so yeah there's a lot of text but apparently they do a really good job mixing the text with cutscenes mixing it with in-game engine cutscenes or gameplay action even the combat and the battles all have significance story elements it's not just go here and defeat this enemy there's story elements and who you choose to be in that battle like I know it sounds really complex but Fire Emblem always is a great job of slowly introducing all this stuff to you so by the time you get to all this really complex oh man if I send this person how does it affect their story or if I pair these two together they're gonna fall in love and have children when they get back and they're pregnant babies what's going on like you'll by the time you understand that kind of stuff you will have a full understanding you'll be already like 40 hours into the game before you fully get it like that's just in this game it grabs you in the beginning and it never like I don't know specifically this one but Fire Emblem in the past if you play it just grabs you and never lets go so like you might find you might start up and not finish it you will feel in like if you don't if you don't if you start it and don't finish at least one play through it'll be because you just don't like the game because it grips you with that story it makes you you gotta progress just to see what happens I need to know what happens I need to know how this character's story line ends how this ends how my character's story like how does it end I need to know and then it sucks in this game is you get to and you realize oh that's not the only ending so then like do I want to go through all of it again for another one for to see more endings do I I mean well and what is cool is there's three houses so in the beginning of the game you choose you choose which yeah I know you choose which of the three houses you want to be teacher of and that changes the experience so I think for three play throughs it'll feel kind of fresh because you could choose a three different pathways but it's then I don't know how many people are going to go back and replay a house just to see a different ending they might just YouTube it and see all the endings someone a hundred percent are not there and put it man you gotta go through all the houses and within those houses you gotta construct all different interlocking relationships with the students and the teachers and you can recruit students from other houses yeah but it's a very complex game but that's what's so fun Nintendo doesn't have a lot of games like this most of your games are pretty simplistic you're gonna have to start out with a matrix of characters and just draw lines well that's the thing what's cool about most of the Fire Emblem games and this one it is true you don't have to play Fire Fire Emblem games there's not like so to me like Zelda it's kind of like Zelda this game is one of the prior ones you can have fun you don't even know the lore you can enjoy Breath of the Wild just as much I mean it's easy to say that when we know all the lore but like there's people who Breath of the Wild was the very first Zelda game and they love it and they didn't get any of the lore references and it doesn't matter to them right those poor bastards right I mean it's easy for me to say that cause I know all the references but it's like that where each game this game is going to be standing on its own and I think it's because Nintendo knows this is gonna be a first entry for a lot of people because they haven't been on home consoles since I don't even know GameCube 1 it was a forgettable game I didn't like that one I tried to pretend it didn't exist basically the franchise was gonna die and then Awakening sold really well so then it came back that's basically what happened and now we're getting to home console first HD entry a lot of people I think are gonna pick this up for the first time, one because it's also technically the next widely considered major release after Mario Maker and then we don't have another major Nintendo game until what, Link's Awakening which is a reman, we talk about Astral Chain you can talk about Marvel Ultimate Alliance but those aren't Nintendo games they're good games that's October and then Pokemon we talk about killer this lineup but a lot of the lineup that's killer this year isn't just Nintendo there's a lot of really good games in between that people should like Astral Chain getting a wider variety of content so it's not just Nintendo is awesome Wolfenstein Yumble by the way comes out the same day as this game no one's really even talking about it Kill or Kill comes out as well people aren't talking about this anymore it happens with Nintendo games there's more than just that coming out we just have more of Ultimate Alliance a week ago I know I still gotta pick that up don't remind me, that's why it's not a topic I want to pick it up before I talk about it alright we're gonna do the next topic which is actually gonna be a recurring segment every week what's nice about this recurring segment is it gives me an excuse to keep pestering Erika and go play something what have we been playing this week or this past whatever, for us it doesn't need to be a week it's been a while since we did a podcast 5G we'll start with you what have you been playing recently? Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 don't play the game yet of course you gotta I'll talk about the game without getting into like story details or maybe like I won't necessarily bring up certain characters like Loki it's one of those games where it's like simple but there's depth to it if you're looking for it some characters might have more synergy with somebody specific than if you just chose random characters that you just happen to like leveling up aspects about certain abilities but when you come down to it it's just kind of a beat them up brawler button mashing you know you got a light attack and a strong attack and then it's all about these abilities and how they work together have you played any co-op yet? what? have you played co-op yet? yeah so on stream actually I had somebody join me for co-op and it's cool so you can do up to 4 players you can if you don't have 4 basically whoever the host is you choose the team and then each additional player that jumps in takes one of the slots from your team so if you initially had these 4 favorite characters one of them becomes your co-player and they choose whoever they want they don't have to be who you originally chose but then it's still just 4 characters running around beating up everybody in sight you can play the main story mode together you can play some of the other modes you know what you do or don't want me to say here but you can do all of it in co-op and it's online it's local it's you know hand a controller to a friend kind of thing so there's a lot of options yeah I think the only thing that I've heard so far because I can know anything I want but I'm trying to avoid some stuff I was trying to look up like oh how does the co-op and online work and apparently everyone has to play like an hour before you can even do it and that to me that might be true I mean what problems do you already play in the game so then you're not going to notice but I'm just like that's a little strange I did notice that there are certain things like about the customization that didn't unlock until a little later than you might have thought so they keep it coming but yeah this is a game I'm going to be picking up so I can't wait I'm a big Marvel fan although none of them actually surprised me because they kind of go for the best looks it's like oh did they look really awesome in the movies then these characters look you know cooler more towards the movie look did the movie characters not look quite as cool as they did in the comics these ones look more like they did in the comics than they did in the movies kind of thing nice I think they're doing a really great job it's exactly the kind of thing that we wanted on Nintendo Switch and I let them go through the infinity stone storyline now the general public is well aware of right absolutely pounding Thanos into our minds put him on the cover now you can know I'm excited and it's got decent reviews mid 70s and when we're looking at the new Marvel movies that are coming out they're treating these movies like comic books I mean this is going to go on forever and people are actually going to know Marvel character of lore having never read a comic book ever that's so cool I like that I think that's really cool and especially now if you try to get in the comic book now you can be so far behind everything it could be really overwhelming yes because there's I read comics when I was a kid and then like I stopped for a while and I was looking up some the other day and I'm just like holy crud I'd rather just watch the movies there's just way too much going on yeah making the Marvel universe is already crazy with all the multiverse stuff and it's just like the movies are good I'll wait for the next movie I stopped to see the new Spider-Man Matt haven't seen it yet I've heard good things I know the biggest revelation here is that I haven't seen it before we gotta go right I'll skip over to Eric just because it should be a pretty succinct one what's the last video game you've even played Breath of Wild oh you played it since I've played it since a little bit here and there I mean Breath of the Wild is a game that keeps on coming I had 10 hour trip out to Salt Dakota it kind of needed something to do in the car well now you have Ultimate Alliance soon so then it'll be fun okay so Breath of the Wild obviously we know that one big callback to the launch my favorite Zelda game of all time probably till Breath of the Wild too alright I'm not gonna start the Zelda combo now HMK what are you playing lately Breath of the Wild as if it's a surprise I can't put this game down it's funny every time I boot it up since you know how you can see your friends in the top corner of the Nintendo Switch every time I boot it up and then like my brother for example is like oh HMK he's playing Breath of the Wild now he calls me up and he's like stop playing that game you beat it and then I'm like what are you talking about you don't beat this game it's over stop it and I'm like man whatever is it more replayable for you than Kingdom Hearts 3 oh that's actually it's Kingdom Hearts 3 it's a lot of give or take between that game and Kingdom Hearts 3 especially since Kingdom Hearts 3 has a critical mode out already and since the DLC should be coming out this winter I've been yeah those are the two main games I've been playing around I mean like every I've been picking up other games here and there playing a little bit of League of Legends playing Splatoon because of the whole final slaps that happened me too Spider-Man because the home coming the far from home costumes came out I've been playing a lot against mostly the big focus like right now is Kingdom Hearts 3 Smash Bros and Breath of the Wild I take the cake especially since boys E3 Breath of the Wild 2 baby oh my goodness oh have you seen my live reaction to that yet oh my god I think I had a heart attack in the hotel room I'm pretty sure I'm looking all over the Breath of the Wild 1 for clues I can use to like you know relate it to Breath of the Wild 2 or Breath of the Wild sequel where anyone wants to like try and call it oh you know for those who flame me for saying Breath of the Wild 2 Nintendo uses Breath of the Wild 2 as a tag in that video on YouTube they do I don't want to hear it there are people yelling me like oh we don't know if it's a sequel it says sequel in text in the trailer how much how much more do you need than that yeah like the sequel to Breath of the Wild if it was a prequel it would say prequel oh my gosh also I don't blame them for like well I think it's just people want to know about a certain period of time that they want to go back to the past and see it and it's like yeah well that's not what they're doing it's too bad yeah everyone's dead let's move on let's focus on the future it's like technically the true ending of Breath of the Wild is a little bit of a cliffhanger anyways oh yeah so you don't understand how happy I was in like so many different degrees for Breath of the Wild 2 specifically it's like this is the first Zelda game and I'm wording this very specifically this is the first Zelda game which is a true and true blood through blood direct sequel to a Zelda game yes I know we have Majora's Mask which was a direct sequel to Ocarina of Time but that took place in Termina yes we had Phantom Aerogas which was a direct sequel to the Wind Waker but that took place in the new Great Sea of the Sea of the it's kind of like when they were on their way to find the new Hyrule at the end of the Wind Waker they said they gotta find a new Hyrule so this is the first time where we're actually going back to the same characters, the same world and same everything but just it's gonna be expanded and I'm so excited for that man this game has been in development since 2017 this game is running on the same engine they're using the same world, the same assets not 2020 dude everyone's like it's not gonna come out 2023 just watch and I'm gonna shove those pot tarts in your face yes I can't tell, HMK really loves the Zelda, I've been avoiding talking about Breath of the Wild too because I think I could rant about it for 3 hours easy, I'm so excited for that game not only am I a big Zelda guy and everyone at this podcast right now knows me from all my Zelda days man oh my gosh, I could be doing I'm still kind of surprised does all the inquiries podcast need to come back I know HMK will be there, he'll be there talking theories all day long Jesse involved oh game over Jesse too yeah oh yeah he'd love to dive deep in some theories I'm still surprised that shut up Doug Bowser wasn't mean, come on at the end of my reaction I was trying to process what I just saw and here comes Doug Bowser on screen and I'm like shut up Doug Bowser and I mute it I'm like I don't want to hear you right now nobody wants to hear you I'm trying to process what just happened oh man so for me I've been playing just Mario Maker I got it for my birthday I've been playing lots of Mario Maker it's fun it's not I'm not really into building games so building my own levels doesn't really interest me that much that's why I don't like Dragon Quest Builders that much or Minecraft or anything but playing other people's creations is always crazy always fun I did a one live stream where I played people's creations and that was a lot of fun I found out I'm not really good at Mario you think you're good I'm not very good you play one of Robert Ross's levels and then you'll know how good you are one of the best levels I've played so far was somebody recreating the great poetry from that one too I love that one you're so well done I like ones like that sometimes where it's not necessarily difficult because I'm not very good at Mario but the theme and they do that theme so well I really like ones like that I'm always impressed with people that can make the auto music playing ones it took a lot of ingenuity to make that work just right so but yeah and what I like in this one what I'm finding actually like lots of story mode I didn't think I thought it was just going to be like this throwaway thing whatever this isn't a normal Mario game it's not going to matter I kind of feel like I'm just playing like I just bought the next new Super Mario Bros. U game it just feels like that's what I got a new Mario game 100 levels the story is just as deep as any other Mario game yeah it's kind of neat kind of like you got a Mario game within a Mario game and I'm shocked at how how much I'm enjoying it because it is neat seeing all these Nintendo design levels where they're doing things they wouldn't do in Mario games normally because of the tool set and I think that's kind of cool because they're like none of it's like I'm not going to say all these levels are as good as the user created ones before Nintendo levels some of them especially when you get deeper into it Nintendo is getting their creativity on here this is pretty cool and I just I really like it I worry that there might not be another 2D side scrolling Mario game for quite some time because there hasn't really been a new one since U Deluxe or since U really because Deluxe is just a rain release you need to drop the whole new business I'll just be happy to think called the new Switch there's still a chance of a Switch Pro as a thing they might call that a new Nintendo Switch New Switch XL I actually did forget a game I was playing and that actually really fits into well I picked back up ukulele and I have no freaking clue what I'm doing what's happening I said it down and went what am I doing you guys what happened where you just haven't played a game in a while but you never beat it so you pick it back up and you're like crap what am I doing every RPG every RPG ever 40 hours in they have to start over now I won't even start an RPG unless I'm willing to play and finish it because I know I'm going to be mad at myself if I come back to it that happened to me with the Witcher 3 and that's why I still haven't beaten a DLC and stuff because I stopped playing and I came back and I couldn't remember anything and now there's a Witcher Netflix series coming out and that's going to throw me for a loop that's going to be based off the books and off the games it's okay though because now the Witcher is coming to Switch yes I'm excited about that Switcher 3 baby I guess we'll get into the next topic here second to last topics this one is actually just what's our most anticipated Switch game the rest of the year and why let's shoot it over, let's go Eric first hmmm I think it's a tie between two games Luigi's Mansion 3 and the odd ball of everybody probably is Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles Remastered okay because hell yeah I mean you're except before that would be like Mind for Links Awakening so the remaster of a game from our childhood that we played that we played a crap out of Crystal Chronicles not the Wii one should've never existed GameCube one or GameCube whatever it was the GameCube one is the actual Crystal Chronicles you have a pot bitch yeah a lot of people hated it GBA one or something too and they would connect together you had the GameCube with the GBA if you want to do multiplayer I recommend the SP's well obviously use the ones that dealt the back of that screen and make sure you're in a dimly lit room yes ideal oh man peel through batteries on my game I'm crazy too let me use the original GBA not the rechargeable one okay cool I already know your reason for a Crystal Chronicles why Luigi's Mansion 3 after playing it at E3 yeah it what about it please tell me it plays more like the first than the second I honestly have not actually played the first so I know I know so I can't answer that question apparently not cause you haven't played it yeah so I can't answer that question but yeah I mean it felt real nice it's great it's hard to explain it was a lot of fun that I knew yes I like the plunger I'm not gonna lie I kinda like the plunger 8-trip kit what's your most anticipated switch game in this year you know Pokemon Sword and Shield I'm not saying that's my game that's my most anticipated game cause I mean yeah sure Link's Awakening because I'm almost all the fans I'm actually really really looking forward to it now I've just seen through Reels especially Dungeon Maker I'm dumb excited for that and I've played Link's Awakening at E3 yeah what was I gonna say if it was Link's Awakening is obviously me cause you know it's all the guy but if I'm not counting Link's Awakening I honestly think Luigi's Mansion 3 I'm stupid excited for that game you know cause I played the first and the first was so good and then the second was it was good but it was weird I'm like yo it's like Luigi's Mansion but not really like it's like like okay Luigi's Mansion 1 is like a Coca Cola and then Luigi's Mansion 2 is like an RC Cola and I'm like it's okay yeah sure it's Cola but it ain't it definitely ain't no Coca Cola it lost it's personality so I'm really excited for Luigi's Mansion 3 from what I've been here and what I've been seeing it seems to be a lot more some of the first all the multiplayer aspects the online the whole you know constant Luigi coming back and stuff I'm actually really really really excited for Luigi's Mansion 3 so if we're not counting Link's Awakening Luigi's Mansion 3 it's definitely my most anticipated game for the Switch this year awesome what do you got 5J we're hearing a lot of that Luigi's Mansion 3 is definitely one of them and the other one for me is Pokemon Sword and Shield so I like when Pokemon takes a step forward not necessarily you know conceptually because it seems like a pretty straightforward average Pokemon game but it's the first time getting a real you know home console full release I really like the look of the new Kingdom the Galar region so I'm looking forward to exploring that and it just looks like it's going to be a fun time you know being able to play it on the TV or portable you know it's a simple selling point on many Switch games but it's effective for me so I'm really looking forward to that and Luigi's Mansion I love them both I think they're both awesome games there was a lot of gameplay improvements in Luigi's Mansion 2 that I appreciated like you know actually being able to move a little faster yeah it was 3DS so there were also some downgrades but things like you know the mansions were really short segments and they kept sucking you back in and out but the gameplay that was there was great they added new mechanics and all that worked really well and I'm excited to essentially have them do that without all the segmenting you know give me a big full mansion and don't suck me out every 10 minutes and then it's going to be the strengths of Luigi's Mansion 2 without the weaknesses of it and hopefully we get that Mario button back so he can just pitifully call out for his brother the whole game one of the most random but fun parts and he's just like awkwardly humming the music just fun little touches like that plus some huge ghostbusters guys so anything remotely ghostbusters like I gotta have it so I mean I'll just call this the Luigi's Mansion 3 topic I mean we might as well I said during E3 I think for me personally this has Game of the Year potential I understand it's not going to actually win a Game of the Year award I can't move I mean it might win A award like the Game of the Year or something but it won't win Game of the Year I honestly think things like Fire Emblem Astral Chain those guys are going to end up being higher reviewed anyways than this game but when it comes to your personal Game of the Year it's all about what you like and I played a ton of games at E3 almost all the switch games coming out I've touched at some point besides Astral Chain and Fire Emblem and I gotta say Luigi's Mansion 3 as someone who has extensively played the prior two games is everything I wanted out of an actual return to home consoles now there's some things that I can argue maybe it could be a little darker in some of the rooms that's just an aesthetic choice they made to make things a bit more visible but they have all the hidden stuff is back and hidden very cleverly in the area we got to play one of the things that was hidden in particular was actually pretty difficult to figure out not obvious at all and I love it it's obvious there's something there but how do you get to it was not obvious and I love that because I didn't feel that in Dark Moon it just felt pretty stock standard it was kind of like the first game but on the easy level track and the second when Dark Moon didn't have personality the ghosts in particular stand out in Dark Moon they're all the same ghost and that wasn't great in this game, just in this alone we saw at least three different types of ghosts in one area obviously you have the same type that's having different weapons that's a thing too but there was like different more personalities, King Buu we saw them on trailers back there's just a lot there's a lot more personality injected into this game and maybe it was limited by 3DS at the time and it was next level games next level games didn't do the first one so it was their first Luigi's Mansion ever I'm still disappointed that Luigi's Mansion was ported to 3DS and not Switch but that's the story of the day the controls were so bad on it too oh yeah not good at all to me it's a downgrade in every way if that's the only way you have to play it, fine but don't just wait for the Luigi's Mansion 3 on Switch the birth of Luigi though thanks for that what I really love too we got our demo we got to play it I played through it twice it's really cool even the boss fight is really interesting I could see how some people are going to get sick of the slam mechanic where you slam the ghost it's optional I thought that was going to be fun it is fun but as I was playing through the second time I was like okay I've slammed like 50 of these things at some point it's kind of like okay is there any other way to get the ghost yes there is you do not have to slam slamming is an option by the way Torn straight out of the Ghostbusters video game which is also coming into Switch this year remastered yes it is but I'm thankful it's optional so if you don't feel like doing it you don't have to do your pulling back on the stick it's a lot of fun for the first ghost in the room because there's like four or five other ghosts in the room and you can just sit there and swing the ghost around smoke all the other ones once you're the last one it's the only one left you're like well I'm just banging you against the floor no case here I don't think it's a bad mechanic I could definitely see that it's going to be the go-to for everyone playing because from what I could tell it appears with every ghost you suck up there hasn't been a ghost I sucked up yet that you couldn't do it and it's relatively easy to do it's literally and there's a button prompt for it it's going to be a go-to move and I don't mind the move I wish there wasn't a button prompt I wish there was a prompt I made it where yeah you can do it every time but no it's skill based you need to recognize when it's time to slam and if you hit it wrong the ghost gets free and maybe then there'd be some risk reward it is possible that it is possible that it is a demo thing or a first level thing yeah you're right this is how next level games does things but I still think it's cool and I know subconsciously now it's optional so I'll just not hit the button if I don't want to but it's a lot of fun a lot of hidden rooms and hidden compartments just in the one area we got to play plus I was a sucker because it was level themed and that's like one of my favorite themes or anything why do you think I like Zelda so much that's what got me into it castles and knights and princesses so it was just really cool and the jousting boss at the end of the world that was a blast both times I have no complaints about that boss that boss was fantastic the only complaint that I had was aiming was a little bit tough especially on the diagonals see I didn't have an issue of aiming because you would have an issue with the flashlight even on that boss I never had an issue with that the plunger I had an issue with times aiming second time around I had no issues though I never had an issue with the flashlight though I don't know and I just had it could be problems right there you go they were played so much I had problems on the angles if it wasn't a cardinal direction that's when I had the problems and on the boss fight there are times when you're in not necessarily a perfect cardinal direction to hit him with the flashlight I ended up not being a problem the first time around that bothered me second time around it then we'll see how it works in the final game but it didn't stop me being excited about it I do like that it's a return to one building I get guys it's a hotel it's not a mansion I understand I don't mind the change in locale in this case I think it actually fits with the game fits with the Ghostbusters theme apparently each floor of the game is going to be like it's own unique theme so it's like a themed hotel it's kind of cool so it kind of fits with the hotel thing and it fits with the unique nature of creating new themes as long as they bring the bell hops from E3 we're good those guys are freaking awesome the games worth buying just for them right any other game that you're excited for that I'm excited for you might as well just list every game coming to switch yeah there's that I'm looking forward to that you know that's just the first time I've had some mics I'm really looking forward to that pine comes out next month that one looks very interesting so I mean there's I think about a question is there a game coming on switch I don't want and the answer right now is at least all the exclusives I want I almost don't want to get NBA 2K20 on principle just to kind of boycott the microtransactions and how they're ruining the single player and it doesn't have the honest on the cover but I can't help it because now the bucks are legit good and how can I not buy a sports game when the bucks in my entire life I've been waiting to be this good and now they're good how can I not buy the game now it's like yeah but now my team's actually good so now like when I play online I can actually compete with all the elite teams I don't have to worry about oh I'm facing against LeBron or I'm facing the gold state war don't matter my team's just as good so I'll probably I already know I'm probably already going to cave it's going to happen alright quick on the last one here the very last topic is just basically is there anything you guys want to bring up and briefly talk about before the cast is over here well I've clearly kind of didn't yeah I knew you couldn't wait you mentioned Zelda earlier and I'm like he's not going to wait until the end of course man of course surprised he had shouted out at the beginning and just making a Zelda cast I'm a guest respecting the process yeah but if you have me on your channel it will be just Zelda all the time oh yeah I can't talk much about Kingdom Hearts 3 because I haven't played it yet but I can talk the hell out of Zelda I know okay don't remind me I'm trying to hold off until the next Playstation comes out anyways Playstation 5 I don't own Playstation 4 so I'm going to pick up Playstation 5 and then go back and play all the back catalog so perfect that's my plan anyways we'll see I say that and then I'll skip it because a new Kingdom Hearts will come I shouldn't say that it takes so long for Kingdom Hearts games to come out it might be a what do you call it it might be a bit sooner don't tell me this could be a spin off game oh yeah they do those all the time I do those a lot those are the ones we were getting on 3DS right 5J is there anything else you want to bring up before we're out of here I mean it's just simple topics I don't know if there's anything I came up with it really had a lot of meat we're towards the end here well so we've seen Nintendo make some new decisions this generation and one of the things that I've been thinking about is Nintendo actually ever going to make a more powerful switch because I'm not sure that they will at this point and what happens if they don't what do you guys think they're going to have a more powerful switch coming out I don't know if we'll get a switch pro I assume you're talking about switch pro or something like that like actually adding more like CPU power more processing power we're not talking about battery improvements or screen updates or whatever Supermodel they will get mad at me but I'm almost starting to lean towards I'm not sure we're going to get a switch pro I think it's more likely we get a switch 2 or 3 years and that's the more powerful system it's fully backwards compatible it's still going to be the same family of systems where they will consider this like their new iPhone sure 3DS completely and totally backwards compatible with DS that's what I kind of think at this point will happen but I'm a sucker, I want it to be real I want it to come out I'll pick it up I love tech full 1080p all the time I'm there but they've just shown so much restraint with hardware this time around normally every year we get hardware and it's been 2 years before we finally got this switch light and that's kind of a it's not an upgrade it's definitely not an upgrade I'm curious because if the switch light and if the revised switch are using the shrunk down taker x1s which seem to be being inferred that could leave headroom for them to just add a boost mode to those later that would be what a pro is maybe but then like for a switch light at least I don't know if it's meant to have the kind of air flow needed to handle it I don't know if there's a fan in it that's kind of my big thing is I'm pretty sure it's going to be fanless they're going to put a big fan in a new dock and that's what's going to cool down there we go he's going straight up we aren't going to get a new switch what we're going to get we're going to get a more powerful dock you set your switch in the dock and all of a sudden your dock just takes off across the table wait come back here jet engine that's not what it meant by portable yeah 4k dock it up I would love that but it's just not going to happen and Nintendo's not all about that power life to go that far a more powerful like a new 3ds possible because they've done it they've done it but they're just seeming to make different choices this time around so well it also helps that like when they did it with the 3ds I don't think the 3ds was as popular as the switch was this far in the life cycle so well 3ds was huge by the time new 3ds come out it kind of felt like well maybe we need to keep invigorating people to keep buying the thing but like we're getting these revisions right now the switch light and the new one at a time when the switch is selling like gangbusters they don't need a boost in sales but the light I said makes sense earlier if you think about it more it's a 3ds replacement than a switch replacement okay fine I get that especially for parents looking for a cheaper thing out of the holidays because hey if you're not willing to drop the price of the switch to this holiday hey look we just have a cheaper version okay cool I think it's gonna sell like crazy with Pokemon Link's Awakening I think those two games in particular are really gonna push that I suppose if you think about it more like their console line they typically didn't do updates to the console like yeah maybe they removed they did revisions it just usually wasn't more power that's what I mean that's what I mean they didn't make them more powerful like there was a Wii mini that came out like 5 years in the life cycle but it was like a cheap version of other things in the past like technically done the more power but not at a mass level right it's not standard for the console line it's more the portables where they did that yep so it'll be interesting to see what if anything Eric you got any thoughts on it no blank how would you okay he's already playing Zelda he's already playing Zelda man he's super busy thinking about his next theory video nah I'm just pretty much nodding that sounds good awesome that's alright we're at the end of the cast anyways I want to thank you guys for joining obviously HMK thank you so much for coming out we're gonna have to have you out more often man you're awesome guys especially when we got some more Zelda topics oh I know you're all over that oh I'm hoping I'm hoping we hear more like the game awards or something come on the game awards yeah keep your eyes open for that oh they did it in the past let's go let's go and so thank you so much do you have any upcoming content or anything you want to let people know about definitely I have a bunch of awesome Zelda collaborations that are coming on up including Mars collaborations but I just really want to focus a lot more like the broad scope of Nintendo Switch I have some really cool smash birds ideas but I've released a huge Zelda theory just now called Zelda is the cause of Hyrule's downfall which breaks down the possible return to the Triforce and Breath of the Wild 2 in a very sinister way so you guys definitely check it out on my channel it's really good I've already watched I won't spoil it for anyone but it's really good thank you thank you so yeah so you're expanding your channel a bit now oh definitely yeah at least in my world as the Kingdom Hearts all the guy yeah that's not gonna change I just want to add some more stuff yeah it also Smash Brothers, Nintendo Switch maybe some Yu-Gi-Oh no there's nothing wrong with that like I went from being just a Zelda guy to I do everything now so it's definitely nice having a wider variety of stuff to talk about but you could definitely tell if you can't tell with my reaction during E3A when something Zelda happened it's at a whole new level for me okay like guys I am unabashed in my extreme bias to Zelda and how much it matters to me I could talk about how much Luigi's Mansion is fantastic I could talk about like I got 50 games on my Switch I could talk about how amazing all these games are but you mentioned Zelda and it's over there's no conversation to be had it's Zelda and then everything else is below it and it's not even close yeah I say that there's other franchises I actually like just as much but I don't know what it is about Zelda man maybe it's just because I covered it for 20 years so I kind of trained my brain that you need to care more about it I can't help it can't help it man back in the day when I used to do tons of things when I was doing all those theories that's what I should have been doing instead of running a website I'm waiting y'all I could have been a YouTuber before it was cool I know I could have been a YouTuber I could have gotten bigger than HMK before anyone knew who HMK was I was pushing HMK's videos at Zelda in the back of the day yo and I appreciate that yeah you I pushed some game over Jesse who else there's a bunch of commonwealth realm Conrad, Dime and McElroy back when he used to do things he's back is he back now I'm pretty sure he just dropped recently even the Kokiri okay it's just not popping up on my subfield well thanks you might want to make sure you're still subbed didn't unsub me there's a whole bunch of them, remember the Chamber of Sages oh yeah getting back in the day alright so thank you guys for tuning in obviously thank you 5J welcome to the time of our podcast man it's gonna be awesome right we're gonna have a lot of fun great to be back here again having these awesome discussions it was great to be talking with HMK and I haven't told 5J yet this so you're gonna find out right now I'm actually one thing we're gonna do with this podcast guys in the future is this podcast I came up with basically all the topics just because it was the first one back and I wanted to kind of make it more controlled for my sake but what I'm gonna be doing in the future and I've already talked to some patrons about this we'll be letting people like 5J come up with some topics we're looking at like 7 to 10 topics a week so having 5J come up with some and then run them by me and figure out what's gonna make a good discussion so we have like a week to come up with those topics instead of always waiting until the last minute and also patrons that can come on I didn't mention it today but we do have a patreon at patreon.com and if you get in the $20 you can come on one podcast per month and the people that come on will also be encouraged to pick out some topics so they get to talk about the things they want to talk about I also want to make it in the future where usually I did this in the past when I had special guests on like HMK that I know okay I know what he's into we'll talk about this but this time around I'm kind of waiting because I know I'm going to have a big breath of the wild too huge like podcasting happening later this year HMK don't worry you'll be invited you'll be invited I'm trying to get all the old crew together it's going to be huge but I wanted to wait and I didn't want to wait that long to get HMK because it's been forever we needed to touch base again alright let's go do it thank you guys for tuning in oh I guess I have one lesson to mention we did move the podcast of the audio version it's no longer on Podbean if you are someone who followed us on Podbean please don't go down to the description and go to the new anchor.fm URL that's now where it's located if you are on iTunes or Google Play we'll just feed change for that alright cool I think that's finally it and Nintendo Prime got it I didn't bring up all the other places of that no I know anyways thank you guys for tuning in and we'll catch you in the next podcast