 مرحبا بكم في المستوى انا هي هنزا الناخال اريد ان اتبعي نريما الناخال سلم عينان سيرا موسكس اليوم سوف نتحدث عن اجيبشن وانا يوجد الكثير من الأشياء يمكننا ان نتكلم كثيرا في جانوار 25 بعض الأجيبشن أو من أجيبشن وانا يتكلم كثيرا وانا يتكلم كثيرا في المستوى ومن فبري 11 وانا اريد ان اتبعي سيرا اخبري كيف اتبعي ما اتبعي هذا المستوى؟ يوجد كثيرا السابق سوف نتكلم كثيرا سلم عينان يوجد كثيرا سلمة سلم عينان سلمة سلمة سلمة سلمة سلمة ونحن نظر الوصول على مدينة أخرى ونحن نظر الوصول على مدينة أخرى في نوفمبر was the parliamentary election and there were videos that had gone around showing how corrupt the National Democratic Party was which is the ruling party of the Hasim Obadiq Regime and it demonstrated that they were filling up ballots for the National Democratic Party left and right where the poll doors would be closed and people wouldn't be allowed to vote and there was a lot of violence that was incited against anybody who desired to vote and these videos spread like wildfire it was extremely corrupt people were outraged so there were also some levels of people wanting to collaborate people wanting to get together and protest but of course those efforts were cracked down on it as well and then the last one was the Tunisian uprising in January the Tunisian people were able to oust their own president Ben Ali and they did so successfully with organization, with collaboration and a youth movement that worked very well together to topple this regime and the Egyptian people said well Ben Ali's only been in presidency for 24 years I mean Mubarak's been there for 30 so we can totally take on Mubarak so I think those are the three major factors that led to this major revolution of course coupled with the fact that Mubarak's been there for 30 years you know I was really impressed by the civility of these youth who went into the Tahrir Square and completely defenseless people and they went into struggle against a lot of forces and the military came in could you talk to us about the role of the military in the revolution yeah you know at first it seemed like the military was going to try to stay neutral because you know you had Mubarak who wasn't going to step down and you had the people who were fearless I mean they lost all fear basically you know they had gone to the point where they had nothing to lose anymore and this was all that they had left to do and because they have such huge hearts and such courage you know they were able to stay and they were able to just be completely courageous and fearless and you know the military I think played an important role in the beginning when they said that they weren't going to fire on the protestors because as fearless as you could be if you're going to be you know fired on by army tanks there's not much you can do of course so I think you know the army allowed the people to to stay there and to you know even when they were defenseless and even when they were peacefully protesting no weapons on them you know I think the army gave them somewhat of a cover to be able to do that can you can you talk to us about disability I've seen people organizing themselves even though it was really that it's that people with with no resources but I've seen them cleaning the streets and yeah when this thing started I think everybody noticed or heard that the police left everything you know and the thing started to get like a chaos and even some of the prisoners came out and I I heard from my relatives that people were so scared and they were staying at home scared trying to you know for getting out and the young were protecting the their apartment they were saying that down in front of each apartment trying to to protect it from those criminals who got out people were whether they were helping each other in different ways I heard that there is some doctors just came out just to help when they heard that there is some people who fell down during this thing and they open like a small hospital in the field and everyone was helping even they don't have any kind of resources but they were everybody was trying to help each other to to get this thing to get to succeed just it is really very emotional just to hear what these people were doing in the street of Egypt I never felt that I can see this happening in Egypt in my life I left Egypt I left Egypt of course I was born and raised in Egypt I finished my college degree there when I came here to the United States but I still have some kind of connection there my family still live there and I go visit them so I heard a lot of things was going on in Egypt and everybody was so frustrated everybody get out of college and they don't they don't find jobs people who are getting rich are getting richer and people who are poor getting poorer and it's this thing just get people to explode I'm really proud of all this young youth Egyptian who got this kind of peaceful revolution to start and get it to finish it successfully I want to tell you I'm not feeling there one day I think it was Wednesday when I called my sister in Egypt and she was crying she's 75 years old woman living by herself and I ask why she was so unsafe the police has gone out there's no police anymore and they released all these prisoners and many people from each building went down with stakes with to protect whoever living in the building so my sister she kept crying and then I called some relative went to spend the night and I think that reflected in many Egyptian families but I really want to get to you in a role of social media on this uprising I think it's really important that you bring that up relating back to what you were saying about how people were very fearful to leave their apartment buildings on Friday the 28th of January we bought a cut off the entire 85 million population of Egypt from all internet, all facebook, all twitter and this was a medium that all mobile phones too all text messages and this was a complete shut off and this was a tool that was being used to mobilize the youth to mobilize the young professionals and get them all in one place so that they knew where to gather and where they should march but in the midst of this cut off of internet Mubarak also released prisoners he also got the police out to incite violence against people and that's when that culture of fear was cultivated in the Egyptian population that's when there was kind of a strife between people that were just I'm too afraid to go out I just want this to end and a lot of people were bringing up videos where they would show how poorly the police were treating the protesters but nobody was able to see that if you're in Egypt you can't see those videos online you can't read those tweets you don't know who's doing the violence so you're just saying I don't want anything to do with it I'm too scared to come out of their apartment buildings young men older adult males the women would bring the men downstairs tea because you know they're staying up 24 hours a day trying to keep the apartment building protected they provided these great great neighborhood militias to protect their own people and then once the internet was restored the videos of the police brutality showed up the videos of the looting by the thugs hired by Mubarak's regime showed up and that's when people's fear was completely destroyed Salma was saying that they were fearless and that's when they really started to feel this unity of we know who's inciting this violence we know who's robbing the streets and who's looting and it's not the protesters so the use of social media changed their perception of fear and it turned it into a strong sense of courage unity and continue to proceed in their protests but I have to say that this was definitely a e-revolution this is something that the youth of April 6 the youth came together and created of course the April 6 youth movement it was kind of a support group by the youth to halt all activities on April 6 I think 2008 but this was one group that was already mobilized and they already had their ties together and then coupled with the group of the Khaled Said protesters who were in support of the blogger that was killed over the summer so these two groups that were both on Facebook they were both on Twitter they both had online presence they came together mobilized their membership via Facebook and Twitter and they went out to the streets what happened on January 25 I'm really it's not only the men I think the women really played an important role and I I've seen so many pictures where the women were leading if you can fill up on the rule of women in this and I noticed there were no harassment of women in the square or throughout the country there were no rubbing or stealing or people taking other people property so if you if you could tell us about the role of women in this uprising yeah I was amazing to me to see the observations that you point out which was that many times women were the ones that were on the loudspeaker you know leading the chance and you know men and women together were there you know for a common purpose there was no distinction between the men and the women the women were there for the same purpose that the men were there and really this was about Egyptian people it wasn't about men and it wasn't about women it was about everybody and we really saw that with everybody you know being together working together and you know like Sarah had mentioned you know it was just amazing to see you know the civility and the people you know the lost and found people setting up lost and found turning in money these are people who need money and you know they had so much you know pride and so men and women that they were turning in everything money anything that they found they were turning it in because they were there for a common purpose and it was it was amazing to see that the the unity like Sarah mentioned among the people and it really was something for the people everybody more recently we heard about I think the CBS correspondent Lara Lara Logan and it was a very unfortunate story that you know she had been you know sexually assaulted by you know certain Egyptian men after Mubarak had stepped down and it's very it's very sad that something like that happened but I think it's also very important to know that something like that can't overshadow everything else that you know happened the 18 days of the peaceful protest of the people working together of the men and women side by side being Egyptian people and working for one common purpose I mean out of 80 million people you know the majority really were behind this movement and you know as much as that I'm sure there are you know internal fighting you know people who would agree with different political parties and different things like that it was very amazing to see everybody come in for one one common goal which was to get Mubarak out in the regime out and it was incredible to see that amount of unity of course that's true but also the religion part was really important where I saw both Christians and Muslim working together for the same thing I saw Christians surrounding the Muslims while they are praying to protect them and I saw a Christian woman who was actually pouring the water for a Muslim to do his own before prayer and at the same time I saw the Muslim when they were then surrounded the cathedral on January first at the beginning of the new year to protect them from any attack so it sounds like the people who were citing the division between Muslim and Christian was the regime it was not the people themselves I think Mubarak wanted to create a divide and conquer tactic and he used rifts between getting Muslims and Christians separated he used rifts between getting the elderly population and the young population separated I mean he used a lot of rifts to try to divide the population up so that instead of thinking about a unified cause against him they would think about their own clashes internally and I think the Egyptian population mostly did exactly the opposite of that they said anytime there would be maybe a religious chanting from either Christian or Muslim side they would say a chant in Arabic that says Muslim, Christian we're all one Egyptian so that was kind of the show that no matter who tried to bring up any religious context they would be shot down immediately I mean not literally but their voice would be overshadowed by the strong majority very very strong majority of people that were completely against that this is just like Sanaa said one Egyptian united cause that's true I grew up in Egypt of course I went through high school and university even finished my master's degree in Egypt and I always had Christian friends so when they tell me there's division between I couldn't understand where it's coming from because I had so many Christian friends and we played together we were there were no differences and so many people didn't know whether one person is Christian or Muslim because we were just all Egyptians so now now that we have arrived to this stage now Mubarak is gone but there is still this this uneasiness of people of the existing government who can feel us on why people are so unhappy with the existing government I think still people do not trust what's going to happen after this revolution after Mubarak they said Mubarak is gone but what we heard that Mubarak is still there is just this thing in Sharma Sheikh and he is cabinet or the prime minister that Mubarak and appointed Ahmad Shafi as prime minister he's still there so I think that the Egyptian still do not trust the government right now there's still some kind of confusion about what's going to happen and of course because people just suffer for so long they are afraid that this thing is going to continue continue with the same with the same people they said that Omar Saliman is still there Ahmad Shafi is still there and Mubarak is still there and we heard from time to time that they are trying this Mubarak regime I think they are trying to get people to get confused about what's going to happen and you notice that there are some protests some company now they are protesting to get to get raise in their salary they think of course after what they heard that how much Mubarak you know his wealth how much Mubarak and his family all this thing that happened during Mubarak regime I think people still do not trust the government right now and I think the best thing just to start to try to get quickly to solve all this problem and get Egypt to go on the right path Sir if you can if you can fill us on what do we do to help Egypt in this stage I mean this revolution is going to change the whole Middle East but how can we help Egypt that's a question I think every Egyptian living outside of Egypt has thought about since February 11 you know we've allowed ourselves maybe 24 hours to celebrate but we saw hundreds of nonprofit organizations across the U.S. alone coming about saying let's see what we can do to help Egypt how can we assist what can we do and I think there are several things that can be done I think what we need to do before that is look at what the Egyptians in Egypt are doing and how can we supplement their work and how can we supplement what's being done on ground because the Egyptians are extremely intellectual we see Nobel Prize winners coming out of their Nobel laureates I mean these are very very smart people they just were trapped under a very oppressive regime that didn't allow them to vocalize and organize and mobilize the programs that they would like to see in their country they have huge dreams they are very ambitious they have great ideas because we are seeing tons and tons of groups coming about but we want to make sure that we are all supporting what the Egyptians in Egypt want to do but some of the things that have kind of noted themselves out from what the Egyptians want and also how the Egyptian Americans can help is first and foremost tourism Egypt strives on its tourism sector it is almost half of their income as a nation and after the protests began the US pulled out all of its tourists from Egypt and said anybody that's there and has been living there you need to get out and a lot of countries across the globe have done that as well so the first and foremost is tourism we need to reinstate those tourists the tourism sector and make sure that it's thriving again because I don't think any of us are going to be able to live a revolution again so financially let's help rebuild Egypt by visiting by taking cruises and of course it's probably very affordable at this point so that's my first suggestion and I think the whole country the whole population of Egypt has really emphasized that and the second one is to assist in educating the Egyptian people for what a true democracy looks like what are political parties what are campaigns what do I need to do to run how do I reach out to voters how do I register to vote I mean these are very simple things but they've been so behind red tape and lacked a lot of transparency in Egypt so we want to help educate the Egyptian people in Egypt but also make it extremely transparent and easy for anybody who maybe didn't attend an educational seminar or whatever it may be so that they have the opportunity to see those things and those are the first two things that we would like to see at least done and the Egyptians in Egypt have made it very clear that's what they would like to when I ask Selma on our government in the United States he's been helping all this different government in the Middle East now there is a new movement of democracy and the United States should consider its new approach for the Middle East that's a really good question you know we've seen America always talk about democratic ideals but then of course for the last 30 years they've supported a dictator something that's obviously anti-democratic I think moving forward it's very important for the government of America to stand by their ideals as opposed to standing by people because they have fears of who's going to step into power now now that there's a power vacuum is it going to be the Muslim Brotherhood is that going to create room for radical Muslims basically there's this fear of the unknown at this point and I think that it's important truly than standing behind democratic ideals and so we saw the discourse not really supporting what the true ideals were so I think at this point if America says they support democracy then they should support democracy everywhere and if the people of Egypt as Sarah mentioned that was one of their demands they want free and fair elections if that's what they want then we have to stand by that and support their right to live a democratic society and if they choose to elect people through a democratic process that perhaps we don't necessarily agree with well that's democracy and I think that's something we just have to step aside and really let them have those free and fair elections and choose who they want to have represent them that's democracy I noticed recently in Egypt that a lot of companies a lot of workers just been protesting and a lot of the government people just really crying for people to get back to work because of course if the economy will stay at stand situation there's no way we can pay anybody anything so if you can fill us how people feel only on getting the economy to go again I think the best thing just to get the economy to go back again I think for those people who are protesting just to go back to work and try to live like a normal life because if we close all the companies that producing like sugar like wheat whatever that you know after a while we're not going to find food for for the egyptian so they're going to start to complain that they have a shortage of food so I think we cannot like push a button just to get these people just expect or some of them just expect you're going to push a button after مباركليف that they can get the raise or you know good salaries and all this thing I think we have to be settled first and so we can correct all this thing and then we can start a new beginning and so hopefully that people understand that and I think people need some kind of education as Sarah said you know we have a lot of people who are literally in Egypt and and this is yeah just something that we need to do and you know even people who are educated there I mean truly since the time of the pharaohs there hasn't been a democracy in Egypt and there haven't been free and fair elections so even if the people know that's what they want they might not necessarily know what that even means or you know what it takes to get that so you know as far as you know educating or helping to educate you know the Egyptians there you know there's a program a group that we want to start basically creating short videos and things like that that we can disseminate in Egypt basically stating you know those very simple ideas that Sarah was mentioning even just what voting means how to vote where to vote you know how to pick from different candidates what do process means what you know separation of powers means those kinds of concepts that maybe you know they know they want some kind of you know vague end but they don't necessarily know exactly what that is because they've never had it before well I want to I want to thank you all of you you really made a very nice discussion today I want to I want to thank all the audience also for being with us and if there is any questions we have the website please contact us and we'll answer any question you want thank you very much