 First on the agenda is to recruit the agenda. We're going to make additions to the agenda. I have an executive session that I'd like to add to the agenda. So we'll be titling that personnel issues and for one BSA 313A3. Is there anything else to add to that? I'm moving stuff to the agenda as a member. All in favor? We could say that this time, last time. We could say all in favor. We could do the first one. And first appointment is the Energy Committee. Is everybody here to hold a plan to be here? Or do we want to wait for anybody here? So this is not about appointing new members. We haven't met any new members yet. This is, I came here today because I've come to talk with Turis back and forth and the top plan, as you know, has going to be finished. Final draft is coming up. Talking a little slower because I'm taking deep breaths under this mask. So the, once the, well last time the campaign was reviewed, there were these goals. Goals and benchmarks. Do you all have attendance B? Yeah. So these goals are what the Energy Committee is aiming to work towards. And I made these progress charts so that we could check out how we're doing so far at the town. And this is important. A lot of times we consider renewable energy and electrification as part of the, you know, climate change mitigation process. But this also has the added benefit of keeping dollars in our local economy. You know, we spend millions of dollars as a town, fossil fuels, whether it's heating our homes or putting gas in our cars. So every step we make towards the goals and appendix B really will be saving our residents money. And hopefully they'll be paying the taxes and their widows with this money. So we can start by looking at the first page of these progress charts, solar power capacity. And this relates to energy goal number one L on page five of appendix B. Amount of renewable energy production. And there's only one benchmark for that. That's in the year 2050. We should be producing around 12,000 megawatt hours of renewable energy in our town. Currently we're producing about 550 kilowatts. That's a much smaller amount of solar power. We have about 1200 kilowatt hours that come from the Bethel Mills Dam. So, you know, we're a little bit short on maybe where we would want to be. But you can see that there's a trend of increasing solar installations, which is exciting. Last year the Bethel Energy Committee co-hosted solar and special region with integrity energy. And that led to seven homes in Bethel adding a solar installation to their vise. And 44 kilowatts of added solar power capacity for our town. Now this campaign was regional. So there is some, you know, sites in Whirlton and Randolph that are, you know, not included in Bethel's numbers. But it's still a positive thing. So that's solar power kind of review. Do they have any questions so far? I do. Do we get credit for existing this whole thing like the town participates in a solar array? The general belief is actually in Bethel. But is the town for, as far as the state meeting our goals, do we get credit even though the solar isn't in our town but because we participate in it? Yeah, that's a good question. For the purposes of these charts, I pulled this information off of a website called the Vermont Energy Atlas, which is created by the Energy Action Network. So, you know, aside from this information, I don't know how the state would even be keeping track other than public utility records. Yeah, I know. And for the purposes of this, that solar installation was not included in this chart because it isn't in South Florida. Right, that's right. Because I know there's these goals that all the state wants in this appality is unique. And that's why I was like, well, how are they going to know that? I mean, as a candidate, we're, well, we're participating in this. And I think that installation should be noted as something Bethel is doing. Yeah. It probably also won't take into account the off-grid, right? Because the state would have a record if someone had an off-grid at home. The way I understand it, if you install a solar panel on your house, you must have to file some sort of... Well, I think if your home is connected to a utility, then there's registration for that. Because now you're putting units into the system, right? But if you're in an off-grid, but you do have... We do have some people that are... We do have homes that are completely off-grid. I could think of three, right? So, I mean, probably, my guess is it's not really something that the committee would want to follow up with, but you could add that to the balance. Yeah, add that to our solar panel. And so, yeah, that's a good point. Those off-grid homes might not be included in this information. Because the atmosphere at this house, the state would know if we managed the walls or not, that they said solar panels. I was like, that's why I was asking. Maybe a couple of notes was happening. There's also something about energy credits. Yeah. They're worth money. Yeah, right. And... Because you wanted to reduce your carbon footprint, right? Right. And the state, I don't know the numbers, but we have a goal in 2050 to be at a certain point. Unfortunately, because they're worth money, some of the bigger producers are selling them to Connecticut and Massachusetts and New York. So they can get their carbon footprint back. It doesn't do a damn thing for us. And it can be very frustrating to see these, you know, good destruction of time set up to get views by bigger businesses. And for most of the purposes of what the Bethel Energy Committee does is, we're really trying to zero in on Bethel Town and just what we can do here. So aside from that great solar comments, we can move on to heat pumps, if I'm not already. So the next page, residential and commercial heat pumps, corresponds with the energy goal in Appendix B, number 1H. And according to this goal, we should have 87 new heat pumps installed in Bethel by 2025. And you can see we're a little short. I'm not surprised. Heat pumps are, the way I understand them, it's best to have a heat pump and a wood stove and an oil furnace. They're in sort of equipment. Let's try to have a heat pump installed. And so there is to be a backup source so that it gets below zero so that it's not as efficient. The other thing is too, people cannot throw a heat pump in a house that's not already efficient, energy-wise. Otherwise, it's just ridiculous. It's not going to work. Our house is extremely airtight. So we built it that way. And I'm sure you gave the test that unless their house is already lucked up and energy-efficient, it's not really worth it to put it in. Yeah. Heat pumps from the last three years are finally starting to get so they've worked with that energy efficient home. Exactly. Ten years ago, they didn't work in any homes. Yeah. Above Florida. Yeah. Exactly. No, you're right. And if we're going to make up air, there's all that sort of stuff. So it's a process. But certainly getting people to get their homes weather-wise is obviously a huge step in the right direction. Yeah. And the chart right underneath shows the benchmark for percent of homes and beds will weather-wise. And this information comes from, you know, officiality of Vermont, the state of Vermont, low-income weatherization program. So you can see that there's trend increasing. And, you know, as of 2018, almost 10% of the homes were recorded weather-wise. And there's a lot of statewide help. Last year, the energy committee hosted a button-up event at the Arnold Block. And seven homes signed up during those visits, during that event. And that was, it was really, people had interest in it. When we posted that on our Facebook, there was likes all day. It was shared. Not a lot of people showed up for the event. But there's a big interest in the button-up. It's really well-known. So really glad we have the state of Vermont leading the way in that. I have a question. My understanding is, and this is an information we give out quite a bit, is people, especially seniors who are looking for perhaps fuel assistance. It seems like if you sign up for fuel assistance, then someone maybe reaches out to you about doing weatherization on your home. Do you know if that's a true, we've heard that, but I don't know if that's a true statement. Do you know? I don't know if that's true or not. But that's a good question. I think it would be, that would be something, I think, if the energy committee to promote what certainly is for, certainly for seniors is the fact that if there's a, there's state aid out there available for some people, if they qualify, especially seniors for fuel assistance, and then trying to get them to, with fuel assistance, and with, you know, because you see Vermont, you know, I'm assuming that's who they send out. So they're not just getting the money for the fuel that will, that will, you know? Yeah, exactly. I think that's kind of fine with the state saying the same thing. So I'm curious about that, if there's a, if the partnership is there somewhere. Yeah. Not only in the southern part of those programs as well, there are some, there are some lots going on. Yeah, absolutely. Well, that's good. You know, people are maybe, some of the need assistance, especially seniors, that they didn't come down with the money to replace windows, and maybe got home as old or insulation, all those sorts of things. Yeah, and, you know, with the, you know, that's a little, the kind of number, a lot of, I think it's 40%, it's at or below the Vermont medium income. And I grew up in one of those homes. I'm still in one of those homes. And so, you know, you find that things like weatherization projects or appliances, you're not going out buying new appliances because you want to. It's because they break. It's right on that line that you have to. So, weatherization, you know, a lot of people are pushing it with their windows until their windows are actually broken. So, next year, we're hoping to pull together with the Randolph Energy Committee and the Barnard Energy Committee to do a window dresser's campaign. And what that looks like is it's a workshop. And we're, you know, everything's up in the air. It's very tentative. They've modeled this up in Maine. It's been successful in that colder, Maine climate. So, what it is, is a temporary interior storm window insert. Maybe just think of two by four square. On two sides, they're plastic. And then you just pop that into your window sill and it helps with heat loss and it's low cost. That's a great idea. Isn't it great? Yeah, it's a great idea. And the window dresser's team, they're really on the ball and they're organized. And they've been allowing the Vermont Energy Committees to attend these trainings to kind of learn more about the program. And that's where we're at right now, just kind of learning more and seeing how we can make it fit. We're gonna have to sign that up with you. Let us know because, you know, we now water storm bills quarterly. It doesn't go to every resident, but it goes to 300. So, it's a lot of those landowners. So, when you need to, if you guys came up with something, you could copy it and insert it in the water storm bills. To help you promote it. So, just leave that in mind up. Just let us know because, obviously, we only bill quarterly, so you'd have to get it in the right schedule. But, keep it in mind. Another problem here is the strength in the communication between the energy committee and the town. The past year, I've been chair. I've been focusing on strengthening the communication within the committee with each other. So, now we're kind of ready to take that next step and start really doing some more things town-wide. That was great. And the last goal that we can look at is electric vehicle registrations. And that corresponds to the Vermont State Energy Goal Number 1N on page 5. And so, this always makes me laugh. The 2025 goal for electric vehicles is 126. So, currently, we have three hydrocars in town. And one all-electric. As of 2018, there's one all-electric, which is great. I'm excited about that. That's a success in my life. You know, it's not the most technology forward. Place to be. So, electric vehicles, it's bringing these two things together and really finding the right electric vehicles is really important. So, last year, the energy committee hosted a National Drive Electric Week event, a car show. And there was about 100 people who milled about the parking lot throughout the day. Some of them were here for the Ford Festival, but some of them came here for that car show. And that excites me because, you know, downtown Bethel, people came here. About 100 people were just hanging out. And we gave about 40 test rides, so residents and locals just got to sit in the cars and experience an electric vehicle. And events like that really are, you know, that's how you just inform people on this technology, is one by one, in person, you know, we can put things on Facebook or there's commercials on TV, but it's not really as valuable as having your neighbor say to you, I tried out this car and it actually works. So that's, hopefully next year, things will be back on track and we'll be able to make that a bigger event. So, that is kind of where we are in terms of progress. We can see the trend is very slow and steady. And this is more to give us a grip on the pace. This is not meant to make us all panic that we're not going to reach the goals. We are not going to reach the goals. This is what it is now. To go from here, you know, last year, the energy committee, beginning of the year, we made our goals. So that's what we've been doing for the year. So, you know, next year, January, when we do that, I think it would be a good idea to take our goals to you all and kind of say, what do you think? Do you have any input? And align ourselves. So if there's like, so do we want to put in the water bill? We kind of have it on our radar. I think that's a great idea. I think the only thing, you know, there's something you can do now, you know, certainly this time of the year are, you know, letting people know about whatever, the availability of fuel assistance or what, you know, some kind of credits, tax credits as the years winding down that people want to buy. You know, there's rebates this year for purchases. You know, sometimes the GMP website, you know, lets people know about it. Yeah, and actually, on this way, and actually a solid goal that I was hoping we could make happen, the Bethel Energy Committee is not listed as a town appointed committee on the Bethel Town website. Oh, okay. Just send the information. Yeah, and so if we get ourselves up there, help the website link. On our Facebook page, I post about four rebates each month. Oh, perfect. So there's just information coming out. It's a really, it's great because it's a free platform. Yeah, I know. Just like Kelly, you know, I don't know what you're joking about, but she can also like it so it really gets spread around. So yeah, just email Kelly. I don't know why I'm here. I apologize. And a lot of these things I think that the town could help with, it's not actually the town. It is Kelly. Yeah. Yeah, she is. It's a social media platform. So just email her in the poll and then let her know what you're doing on Facebook and then that way she can go forward to like it that way. It gets on our site too. Right, yeah. The thing that is going to be starting, Button Up Vermont is doing Weatherization Wednesday on social media. So that will be something I can send to her each Wednesday. She can put out. It's just a short video informational about, you know, a little thing that you can do like doing your windows, like window stripping. And it's called Button Up? It's by Button Up Vermont and it's Weatherization Wednesdays. Nice. And then also kind of the other thing we're doing for the end of the year is just recruiting. If I don't have in this room knows anyone who wants to join. Yeah. I think with something in the tax bills like everybody knows was available so far I have three. So we'll certainly shift them your way. But and the site board didn't say that they, you know, you could have your two people that are out of town put in their letters of interest and now to the site board and they're open as long as they make a public minority board. Yeah. I'm really excited about that on some new. Yeah. Especially from, you know, the energy department at the law school or someone at that town. But we're going to be meeting them later on this month or the beginning next month. So we'll see. We'll see if they show up to the meeting. Yeah. We'll see how it goes. Yeah, exactly. So yeah, we have a group of jobs here. And it's just a small town that's the way it goes. Like, I'm really happy that. Thank you. You're welcome. Yeah. You're welcome. So that's very cool. And just, you know, having people on there for a few years, like, we've all been on there for almost two years now. So that's a long time and that's really, that's something in itself. Are we allowed to meet in person now? Can we meet at the office? Yeah. The town office might be sure to be depending on how many of you, but you can certainly meet here upstairs or downstairs. Okay. As long as it depends on how many and then you have to know what you're building and we're just saying, you know, you stay and try to stay six feet apart or masks and now that sort of thing. You have to know those old beds, you know, but certainly we've been here because we can do it easier. Yeah. So we'll just reach out to Kelly. I'm not sure what that normally means. So just reach out to Kelly. Great. Yeah. So why don't we have a key and you can certainly be, you know, up here. It gives you more room and the tables are set up and kind of the next thing. Yeah. So it's pretty small on that. I will tell you that if you try to do Zoom and meet here, that's a trick. Yeah. The acoustics are horrible. We're all just so done with Zoom. We agree. So no, you certainly can. Great. Cool. Well, that's the update. Progress report. The conservation commission being here, I'm sorry, they're meeting at E-Bind. I went to one of their meetings so you can also, you know, if it's nice, you can meet outside too. We should do that anyway. Yeah. It was a nice night. We had a good night there. You can meet over at the van shell. Yeah, you can meet at the van shell. You can meet at the van shell, you know. You can meet at the van shell. You can see caller in advance to make sure there's nobody else here at that time. Yeah. All right. Well, look at the van shell probably a bit. Yeah. Over this next week, I appreciate everybody listening and your interest and, you know, if there's anything you can do, I don't expect you to run out and buy my electric vehicle. But, you know, take a test drive. Well, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That's nice. That's nice. My family superiors are going to be going to be at the van and they should meet under the pavilion at the hall down at the park. Absolutely. Thank you. Cool. Yeah. Thank you. Well, the I think we talked about a little bit on certain committees that, you know, that are struggling for numbers that maybe, you know, like the entity committee would be a good example of maybe instead of just being a town committee, maybe it's a regional committee or, you know, in court versus three or four towns or something. So some of these committees right now have got pretty good people on there. Yeah. But maybe like Barnard. Yeah. I'm just saying I think I might have more input on the court. Yeah. Right. Well, some of these, like, you know, you know, it's not just a town goal. It's usually a regional goal. So the goals would be more realistic, though. Well, this is a state economy. So we must not I don't know where the energy goes. So that would only I guess I have to ask her. I don't. I'm going to assume you get because we all have to ask Nicole. I'll make an out to let her know. Energy products. I know where they went in this name. Yeah. We don't know as well. But that was part of the contract that we looked at. Didn't we talk about what was going to be capable of? Yeah. I don't know what we talked about. But I'm hoping to have a public comment or think before I do the same thing. It's not on the agenda tonight that anybody has a big crowd tonight? No. No good? Thank you to have a chance to get it all out. Yeah. I don't like it. All right. You turn aware of recreation and the grant application for Swing Center. Yeah. So it was in your packet because you were still working on the grant. So it's the Department of Buildings and General Services. I gave you the information last month, but not being able to do trails because that is working and you're going to work on another bigger grant for trails. So what this is a little bit ago, so the swings that we took down because of the skate car, so we're going to relocate that. We also as part of the master plan need to relocate the monkey bar so we figured we'd do it all at the same time. So it's also going to be used to replace the swings that legs and the swings. She's got some prices from capital steel and also the wood chips to go into the structure because they don't just over $12,000. So the grant would be $6,186, $27 if we get it and then the town has to come up with that. There's $490 in the swing set donation fund. So the other $5,900 we're either going to need to take out of the rec facility improvement fund or out of the recreation budget. So we're going to kind of wait and see where we're at and both. We're going to have a match there for that grant so we obviously didn't open a pool so we have some money there. But it would be good to get this done and get everything moved and deal with the drainage issue so there's not ponding underneath the swings underneath the monkey bar which deteriorates our chips faster. Because you have to for all the rest falls on. So you have to be way out of their stuff. Nobody gets hurt. I know that's interesting. He's a bubble wrap. We're going to run on that so you can only go so high. That's crazy isn't it? That's so easy. That's what it is. I'm in a helmet. Is there a specification for the wood chips? Because there's a problem of done because you can't get them from a specific vendor last time. There's all the vloggers that we have in the area. You can't donate so there's a whole specification for that. So that's the plan. I was let you know that's what we're doing. As far as the match goes I'm hoping that you give a little leeway to obviously cool clothes we have money in that budget it might be easier to take it out there and lead to the capital money alone for bigger projects. You can see what it looks like. But that's the plan. So that's what she's working on. What is the grant that you submitted? September 5th or 15th 15th and it was to say where are you going to get it. But it's paid cents. We got it. We got half of it paid for then. Amen. And you would have to put the mulch anyway even if the swing service is in the same place. You have to do mulch every so I was surprised when Greg had to do all that mulch a couple of years ago. And they helped shovel it. You could allow any alternatives other things. And then what I've installed in the past was you dug out under it almost like this foam and it stays green all year round. You want to talk crazy stuff. It was expensive. It was this terrain and you dug way out out of the fall zone and then you had to dig down and you paid to put in this stuff. It's like astroturf but it's thicker than you thought it was. And rubber? I think you can but you can find them and it's expensive. No but they're not ground up already. Yes. You've ground up rubber there? Yes. There's a check made a deal with somebody or wanted to bring some in and he got some of it. I know it's still sitting down there somewhere. Okay I'll ask D.T. about that figure. Five to six. Five to six. Six times. Oh okay. Where is that postage? Where is it? It's a fact. Okay good. I'll have She might use it on the road. I don't know going up by the solar panels. I don't know what she's going to do. I'll have D.T. speak to Jen about it and find out because I know it would be pieced on them and then I know Robert was one of them and I remember I think she was a hero of the town. They looked and it was actually hard to find. And I don't know if there's any new toxic thing. I got out of speech because all they asked them to take it away. One of the things really is you don't really understand is honestly we used to have a sandbox up there. Oh I bet that was we had to take the sandbox out. I'm going to have a transportation. Probably a bunch. So you just need a motion to approve the grant application? Yes. So who? Sorry, all in favor? President Nayshid overseeing this shooting at the grab pad. So I talked about it a little bit before but I wanted you to see his actual letter and I met with Mr. Adams and what he does you can see everything that he does. It's really amazing that he's been such a great steward and I have talked to a few people. I asked Kelly to go through excuse me but not on one map to see kind of anybody in the area. Anybody who might be interested in taking over the facility and so far we haven't had any takers and it needs to be someone who certainly has had an arm who is not afraid of guns and who could certainly deal with people. So if you guys have a recommendation or can think of anybody please let us know. Dick certainly is in his position and I think maybe recently retired would be great. There are a couple people that were there at the time and I spoke to them I knew their siblings and they weren't really interested but I may write to them and ask them if they considered there's two of them maybe they could trade off but I don't know what we're going to do come to the end of the month the only thing I can think of is unfortunately is if we I mean that would certainly start people being a little grumpy Christine besides besides this I'll move down but so you know that's my only thought is at the end of the month that we have to I know it will start a controversy but that might be what it's going to take to get someone to step up he has been such an amazing steward and if there was a couple people to do it and I've got nobody so maybe I'll just put a sign up and tell people that if we don't find someone to take it over we may not propose and if they're interested they could call the town office the thing about Dick was he was close enough for years exactly and that's one of the things I had to tell to look at was who lived nearby that could hear because he said that a lot of times he would have been somebody that hasn't working so we thought about that or even if somebody doesn't close at least if they're willing to get off their name and be willing to go and check and place out what it is so we could call them but maybe we'll just put a sign up down there and just tell them look we don't want to close it yeah we didn't show up tonight so we could volunteer them right who? Doug Marshall oh there you go that's right yeah so that's so are you just wanting to put a sign up down there just letting people know that we have I mean that's you know that's you know the way we're actually people too well I think if we put this on there we're going to find people we want no offense or no pun intended but the target audience is there right people who actually use it and I mean obviously we're floating in the mail for other long years but I can actually put out something on Facebook I was trying to make sure we found you know the right individual and like Mr. Adams have a say and meet them so we kind of try to do this but they're interested and we've tried that approach but because an auto system didn't work out yeah so what we I mean we certainly contacted several people and contacted people to contact people so I'll talk to Kelly we'll put out some call some folks about Paul Paul Balli I don't know Paul Feeney he works yeah and he's not interested but they had a name for who they thought might be but so what we'll do is we'll reach out to the name some of the other people again Facebook and we'll put a sign up down there letting people know that we're looking for someone I didn't hear that before huh I didn't hear that before yeah but if you gave up your phone number they'd call you I was doing it would be done on certain days and certain hours then we did yeah but I didn't hear that I didn't hear I didn't hear people shooting they ordered a lot of phone numbers yeah I didn't hear I didn't hear yeah I didn't hear and we've been chatting about it the day and he said you know he said sometimes he would hear people call he jumped on his truck and drove out he said he thinks that sometimes it's people who maybe have a semi-autograph and they're just kind of running through the last few so he was by chance he said Chris is right also there's you know been a shortage or people run out of ammo so we may slow down I mean further on shooting range or as opposed to we can't find somebody but you fill that pepper or people last tree but it might take that you know you do that but people don't go there shooting anyway I'm sure that's true but maybe you should go down well it does I mean because and people used to bring in TVs and a whole bunch of junk and shoot at it and leave it behind and it became a big issue right I remember years ago many years ago before big volunteer a whole room full of people at the town office with the slept board because there were pros and anti-guys it was a very diverse probably in 2013 I think that's how long he's been doing that since then yeah yeah I mean I think you know we'll just put a sign to let people know and we don't you know the the slept board is not comfortable being unsupervised and would hate to close it until we found right person so if someone could come forward or offer their assistance it would be great and if you can think of anybody what would be the results from St. Hill and Christian Hill so that's good yeah those show that going down the hill Christian Hill is much faster than it went up I'm good we've killed people out for the last 20 years I know it's almost 20 miles per hour for us yeah yeah I'll thought now I didn't have to lie on my own there's still 40 something miles left yeah it said you know if anyone yeah if anyone's interested I just gave you the top sheet of the memo but if you're interested in detail it definitely gives you the whole hour I sent it to the St. Hill gang so they could this highly selected location for St. Hill because putting it on the curve is not these numbers don't represent the speed on St. Hill they come into the curve if you would put a bicentennial lane or follow vehicles yeah somewhere around there before they go that way you could target all the options they slow down into the curve it's not just speed but they're also trying to get traffic flow volumes too so if you you'd still get that where they put it down below you're going to catch everybody put it on a bicentennial you lose the lane so the residents take room yeah but I think yeah well they don't live in Bethel so I mean I think that was part of it was that the other thing is they did have it in a different location at first it was there for a day before somebody well it rained over a little long on purpose and so we had to hit it I thought it was interesting is that the the volume was almost down like both roads I would have thought that the speed I had was quite reasonable because you over 25 you're building hell out of your town I just thought that both Christian Hill and Sandel the average daily volume was 372 versus 376 but what we're going to say they'll almost every week and like today I was watching the traffic going through there and there's no way it's going to be a puzzle right now to and then increase traffic you know through the downtown well I think it depends on you know what time of day and if you're standing still it's you know certainly but there was higher because I know Stan paper actually called me he said trees there's no way that there's that many people coming up and down and for example we see and we were talking about I said well let me tell you the dating time so I went through with him and said look you know when we look at Sandel we had what was more of the times and we were talking I was speaking with him and sort of key times of the day how many people are coming by and so once I talked to him about a specific date and how many cars I said northbound southbound he was like okay well that makes more sense so but if anyone wants to see all of that there's pages of it also it depends on how busy the highway department is for that period of time we're the how many times there are 4 4 a lot yeah that's part of it it depends how many times there's something to get your attention yeah this is so okay that was a good one that was a good one yeah so anyway so it doesn't I mean it's didn't really you know in some ways I was hoping it would be a clear you know answer as to where what those land but what work we can land but I guess it didn't really do that but maybe some information apparently the happened during the discussion and there was some speech study information put upon the traffic was on a cemetery lane nothing so all the ones who went on we don't know where they went disappeared they never made them absolutely I don't know it's still there it's still there it's gone past yeah I guess that Google maps says it's a someone's GPS will take them down that we'll have some mass-shoot first step in the cemetery and we have the Romney police dispatching services so it looks like the state is rolling out some road fees and this is I should have been more specific I apologize this is only for the fire department the constable does not have to pay for dispatching fees this has been around for years and I'm not kidding years they've been talking about charging for dispatching and so we heard about it Dave and Gary myself they'd come up again and they're like they keep saying well I guess because of the state and their budget they finally decided okay we're really going to do this so I gave you it's obviously a much larger description for the state and this is what they're doing as they're currently basing it on 2018 call volume and as I mentioned to you I think in the report it says that their plan has incrementally raised us to 100% of the 4,600 over four years and that and I have spoken in the email to this gentleman Captain Lance Burnham and he's saying after four years the commissioner may often change the billing strategy based on more current numbers well he's probably going for us it could go down I mean we just don't know sometimes we have more calls than others so is this for Oscar or just for the fire this is just for the fire for Oscar they're not charging us for but in 2018 we had 87 calls sometimes the call volume is less and sometimes more so but we have been like I said they've been talking about this for years and this date to carry the burden financially sometimes already paid in dispatch we paid the time I came from we already paid in shelter and we had to we paid someone in dispatch so that's obviously not the case here so it's the reason I gave it to you was to just let you know what was happening yeah but if we use them for for the police for that's going to give a whole lot of money right no they're not currently charging us for for that and I emailed and said you're not really the console and I saw that it was it was nothing and they're currently not charging for that the other thing is to once we if you're contracting out maybe with ESP we could just prop part of their fee but currently this is just a fire time so I guess what kind of takes me back on this a few things one you know I would like to see some sort of more data than just we're going to build you on a 2018 call then I mean it'd be nice to know like what the five years just for years of our call and the highest year the lowest year you know the average year I'm not sure and then is there any you know if these are called specific you know fire related emergencies is this something that the town has to murder or can any of that cost be passed on to the end user I would say probably not I mean I mean it shouldn't get for the town as up to that well one because well we're not charging us we're charging just charging for dispatch yeah only charging us for dispatch that today Christian that's actually we've got a call wrote right and probably they are expecting that for neutral aid you know They called you today, and the point of our visit is that. Well, I don't know. Before I took that call, I mean, I didn't have enough people. I didn't hear the call. I'm just saying, do you have a personnel business? Yeah, I know. I get that. I'm saying, I don't know how the call originated. I don't know. But that was a call for the partner? Yeah, yeah. And part of the responsibility of municipality is to provide fire service to the residents. So I think the only person you could probably pass a call off to is a dispatching charge is when we have commercial accidents, we actually bill them for, you know, fire trucks and that. We could add dispatching to that charge, but that's only if it's a commercial vehicle accident we bill for. Otherwise, the residential, you know, all of us who have just car insurance on their personal vehicles don't have coverage for that. We've tried that before. See, by now, by coming 9-1-1, that's a dispatch call to our fire department. See, what we used to do was call fire department. Right, exactly. And you would have paid someone after those calls. And now it's, you know, some town, so we don't have, you know, self-dispatch. You don't have the staff self-dispatch. And so, like I said, this is, it's something that's been talked about for years. I mean, as citizens and towns, you need to start pushing back against the state. Well, they did. All these pretty good fees are coming out. And this is just another example of more stuff to pass globally. Yeah. You know, just pack, I mean, call it what it is. I mean, it's a fact at the end of the day. And then not to provide some of the information on that. Well, I gave you just this one spreadsheet. But, like, the average cost for a call, you know what each call costs? Yeah. This is them. I can give you more numbers that they gave us. The other thing is too, I should say, we have pushed back on this. They gave all to get a Gary Googler. It was very incensed by this. So they've written letters. They've attended meetings. Well, we're very, you know, just an informant. And the other group's in here to say, I mean, this is just another example of, you know, this is a state police example. But we have so many of these that happen a year. They get passed down into rules from the state government. And I mean, at some point, you know, that we're going to run dry. And that adds more to give. Yeah. So I can provide you with more information. I just gave you that section of it. At this point, you're looking at, you know, you have to raise, you know, your fire department budget is going to go up to four or five thousand dollars. It is. Yeah. Over night. Yeah. It's going to go up eleven hundred bucks in year one and then two thousand. But I'll certainly email Dick McCormick about it, but I will provide you with a, it was obviously a much larger spreadsheet. I just wanted you to see what their section was. And, and so obviously he says they're well aware of our budgetary constraints. Yeah. Just like composting everything else. Yeah. I mean, it's good to do it, but the cost is going to do it, you know, and they pass it on. So I can give you some more information in another year of future packets about this, but I just wanted you to be aware of it. It was coming. But yeah, very, Dave, they attended meetings. They pushed back and Dave said the same thing that I did, that it's been around and they've talked about and threatened it. When they first did, we're kind of like, yeah, yeah, I've been saying that for years, but I guess like money's tight. Because they've reviewed the balanced budget. Yeah. And they passed it down. Exactly. And it's going to be worse some next year. Unconded mandates. I mean, after all the money that's going on here right now, COVID really is stuff that we're paying on soon. Yeah. Not going to be looking forward to that. We can just write them a check at the, uh, follow-up. I can't wait. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They have an appointment. So there's Carl Russell, Derek, Chris Ford, Alex, that are not currently on the committee. Right. The only ones. New appointment. Yes. The only one currently on Tim Mills and Derek Wright are the only ones on... That were left. That were left from the committee. That was three. It was five. It was 10. But they tell every job from the name of the patty... Four. That's a five. Yeah. I don't know if there are any more, but maybe not. I don't have one on the list. The other people weren't interested. So we did meet last Wednesday, which is great. They're meeting again this Wednesday to get themselves organized. I provided them with information about ancient roads. I gave Matt a call today to give them some maps. The mission statement from the original committees, also some minutes from 2007, where they talked about criteria for roads. So they're getting organized. I did not ask them all for letters, but they all showed up. And you know what, as hard as we have in volunteers, and they're all willing to do it, and all of them were very interested in it. I'm surprised they all wrote all the letters. I know, but we didn't even talk about it, frankly. I just, and Carl actually agreed Derek Bright asked him if he'd be the chair, and he agreed. So, and certainly, you know, we just need a motion to approve those four. So yeah, we'll point them to the possible committees. You have all the names, Lisa? Yeah, it's in that. And Carl Russell, Derek Algergetty, Chris Bors, and Alex Reisfer. Yep. Okay. One motion with everybody, or are you going to do a separate motion for you? One with everybody. Okay. Okay, so moved. Seconded. Good, Linley. All in favor? What? I'm sorry, who did the motion? Moe. Moe, okay, thank you. We're going to walk around. Okay, it was one of our decision-makers. Yeah, I know, really. So one of the things I take in the report was about, that I attended the conservation commission, and Deetree and Thatcher are going to join, going to a future conservation commission to pool their efforts on trail writing, because the conservation commission is working on them before us, which is the end of the range, which would tie in nicely if they get those trails behind the school done. It would also be able to take people across to the recreation property, whereas if they went from there on the sand hill, they could go up and pick up woodland and go that way. So it'd be nice to kind of tie those things together. So it's nice to have all the committees working together. The conservation commission is great. They're very good. Then, as I said, the rest of it was tax bills and water bills were issued last week. I know there's been some complaints about people that tax bills and water bills are due. Well, you could pay your tax bill now and your water bill next month, or whatever you want to do. But obviously we were forced to do that because the state and the Loomstead Decoration, that's why tax bills and water bills came out at the same time. We did, as I said, and that only showed you obviously how we all got the insert that was in your tax bill. It was on purple paper to let you know about the committees. So far we've had three people, one person interested in the conservation commission, one person interested in the DRB, and another person interested in the planning commission, which is great because I was reaching out to Rick Benson today and said, we may not have a choice but to put the PC and the DRB back to one committee like it was before because we can't have one person on the committee. So he and I went back and forth a little bit about that, and he and I will talk about that again. So hopefully there was one other person that attended a meeting a few months ago. Kelly got his, I remind her of that, she'll be back in minutes and she's gonna reach out to him to see if she can get him interested in the planning commission. Because the next step after the public hearing, which is on the 16th of this next month, once the PC hands over the town plan to the select board, the planning commission was gonna sit down and work with the DRB anyways to update zoning regulations myself, Kelly, because we enforce them and there's some preliminary needs to get straightened out. So working on that to get back to those how many electrical is successful in upgrading our electrical service from a 60 amp to 100 amp service. We've got about 100 boxes of stuff shredded and out of the basement. So we're making progress there, which brings me to my question about, is the segue into that, is there's some pictures of some things that we have in the basement? Some old single pane windows, there's some old houses around, some old globes that might have been on some street lights at the time. I don't usually wanted these to put in her garden to put solar lanterns in. I don't know who wants the windows. There's a cold, it's painted on, but somebody might want it. Old milk, you know, milk came in, somebody could refurbish it. There's also some sort of a red sled, but it was part of a Christmas thing. Maybe it was a Boy Scout thing for, I don't know, but the Boy Scout person already came in and took everything that they wanted. We'll circulate these photos, but basically I'm looking for permission from the select board to give this away. Does anybody have any? No one here, do you want to see them? Sure. So I'm not sure if I can even give them away. There's also some hollies I showed. They pulled in Carl Russell today. It looks like they're old handcrafted. They're not pictures there, but he told me that I'm gonna reach out to the historical society because that might be something that they're actually interested in keeping, because he said, you know, they look like they were handcrafted and maybe the historical society would want them. I'm assuming it was maybe something to the curtains, like a balance, I'm not really sure. But basically we did this stuff coat out and I didn't want to give anything to an employee before obviously the select board looked at it. Well, first come, first served. That's what I'm thinking. Anybody have? We've already gotten rid of all the chairs and all that stuff. Oh, Christ. If there's anything that you don't like, you can always advertise it on your Facebook page. Yeah, yep, we could. And if you want to see that. If you have any more stuff. So I'll not, yeah, I know. If we have something you want to do, I'm gonna thank you. I'm sure if you see a lot of this with crafts, crush bits. Yeah, you know what Kelly actually wanted, one of them. But so I think we can get rid of some of these things maybe for a donation. Yeah, before or before. You know, maybe we'll advertise some of it. Hey, you know, you come and get it. And we did find something that had Boy Scout badges. So Kelly took a picture of that and it's gonna reach out to the Boy Scouts to see if they could overlook it. It was covered with this much dirt and junk so I can imagine they didn't see it. But we did get rid of quite a few things and we still need to, there's bags and insulation that I'm sure loads of mice, there's a pile of clothing that's got it all. So. Thank you. A couple of the window ones. Perfect. Yeah, okay. I think it's a good idea to get a lot of that. Although the maximum one I'm gonna clean up. There you go. I mean it was more of a, you know, more of a background wear than it was. Oh yeah. There was a lot of historical. No. Worst part of my life is making local homeless. Right, and the other thing too is, I'm obviously, there's this much of the door. Local homeless. There's this much of the door missing. So snow comes in and animals come in. The other thing too is unfortunately, and Kelly is research tracking somebody down. I didn't, I don't believe that they came from this hall but we're thinking somebody at some point maybe donated backdrops from maybe other town halls that were closing. We're not really sure what the history of it is. But somehow they were given a Bethel and they've been stored in the basement. So they're being, they're just rotten. I mean you would need someone from historic preservation or something to come over them. Bethel was supposed to be escorted though but frankly embarrassed that this is what's happened to them. Someone put them in the basement. So Kelly's trying to track somebody down to find out if there are any good, and give them to somebody that will obviously do somewhere then we have a nice backdrop here. It's nothing for us to, it's unfortunate and sad that they're there. So we are working on trying to find being good stewards at least now and saying hey, these things have been poorly treated and if they're in good condition maybe someone at the state level will know what to do with them. So we are trying to get rid of those as well. And then obviously the next plan is to provide another round of stride cleaning out but we don't want to get the basement insulated. One price, but I need to get more prices to do that and we still have plenty of fun up in the attic yet. So there's some of them for us to go over. Jean told me there's storage up there from the person who was a clerk before her or maybe before her that when they shut their visit their clerk's office down on Main Street they just put a bunch of stuff up in the basement. Up in the attic I mean, so I'm hoping we're sure some of us probably know the nice and what not because we can hear critters running around up there but hopefully whatever it is we can salvage obviously we will salvage, depending on the schedule the retention system. I think some of the potential will come out of it. You know we don't know. But if they're covered in house key and holes then I can do anybody anyway. So we'll look at the retention schedule and see what we have up there but that's the next round because you know obviously it's like the basement that we do the attic so. Does anybody have goals to, Therese, keep going on? Just getting rid of this. We're moving the items from. Whenever you can get a white shape taken into the transfer sheet. Yeah, that's what we've made a starter out of. I'm just saying if you see anything that looks like it might have some sort of historical. Yeah, of course. You know to bring it here or have somebody look. Right, we have asked. You can get it out of there. Yeah. You know exactly. There you go. We're going to add like the pulley system. Yeah, I guess some of this stuff is not. But the pulley system, if that is a value then the historicals obviously they get first crack at anything. But we find that this is not that. You only took it so long. Come back to you. That was a very clean break. Yeah. Kelly. That was a very clean break. No. I was just going to bring all the things back. Yeah. John Dunwell in South America. Oh, that may be her name. Okay. I think that's who she mentioned. Dave, too, was John. So I'll ask her how she's been doing that. He knows a lot of that historical stuff around here. Yeah, I actually think that was the name she mentioned that she was going to reach out to. She had him and then there was another lady to run her, she knew, to figure out what the story is there. Because they're not, it's just not the way to store something like that. And it's unfortunate. So as long as everybody's okay with me first come, first served and maybe a donation. The only question I had on the budget status report was just everything went wrong. But I had a question. So it looks like the health insurance is slightly larger than what we had anticipated. I don't think so. If I wear a particular. Maybe just have a chuck rub or a hander. Well, there are. It seemed like all of them were. Well, you might have had payment before the payment or something. I'll have to. Well, we paid. So like I made a mess of the law just to say right now we're at 14%. We paid monthly. So it couldn't be there. I think up front. Public works is 15%. Yeah, and public works is awful but because we, I actually know it wouldn't be every month I fix that. So I'll have to look. But you said you all. Well, we did. We had a rating increase. We had a rating increase. In January of 11.6%. Yeah. But it wouldn't have been more than I budgeted. So I'll have to take. No, that was a long question. We shouldn't have to be at about 16%. Can we have about two months? Well, right now it's like 8% a month. So right now we should be at like 16%. And this is kind of, this was period two. Well, not like the end. You pay, you don't pay anyone, you pay. Right. So in this I'm looking at it says current year period two. So I thought I'd run this for the end of the month. So I must have ran it for that time. So it would be halfway through August. So it's like, yeah, well, it's a double check. Yeah. No, that was a long question. No, no, no. I like that a lot. Look at. It's really awesome. But yes, we did receive an increase of 11.6%. I got one I didn't even understand. You have a water department? Mm-hmm. If you're a regular seller at $730, how do you get $25,000 total? Well, because Richard, sorry, my ring cramp. Richard Sahelary gets paid for, he gets paid out of public works, parks, and water. So between those he works his, he works 80 hours a week. And then he also works every Saturday. 80 hours every two. Every 80 hours over two weeks, too. And then he also works every Saturday and Sunday. And because of the road project, he's had some overtime. So any overtime he works gets charged through the water and public works to the appropriate spot. So it's possible. And only 15% of his staff, 15% or 18% of the salary, he can get charged through the water. So obviously, he occurs overtime when he goes over 80 hours. And he goes over every two weeks because he works every Saturday and Sunday. And he tends on salaries because he doesn't get over it. Well, I just, I know it's a funky thing, but that's a high number that I saw in the public work. Yeah, and also, too, because of the project, there was a couple of days where he was helping with the reservoir and the valves and some things like that. So he had some overtime. But that's why water department always has an overtime line. Because you have to pay someone more than 70 days a week. Does that answer your question? Anything else in regards to the town and manager's work? I also should say with the finances, too, is Paul, I have messaged Kelly today. And then I guess I thought I'd give you June, but I penned it. And now I've started making journal entries. So I'm halfway through. So if I give you June now, it's going to go funky. So I should have my career next packet to have a better idea of where we stood at the end of the year. I have two questions. Sure. I don't even know where to put them. One of them is the, obviously, the boys are going to get the water job done this year. Right. So from what I've been reading on the work schedule, we are all done up through a livery stable work. Is that correct? Honestly, I feel like they had a little more to do on livery. Pretty close, man. They're pretty close. Yeah, and then they're actually, they talked about caving this week, but I actually think they'll be next week. I've got my question. Let's get some of that real quick. Yeah, I think they'll be next week. Cards are a mess. The streets are a mess. I mean, that stuff will go down. It doesn't make a lot of difference for the best. Yeah, and then we all go on Friday. But yeah, they're actually, last conversation I had on Friday with Amy was they were talking about caving this week, but there's still some stuff on the punch list to be done. So we actually think they'll end up caving next week. And then, of course, they are working. We're going to, just in my lane of traffic, so there's no parking. So we're getting up to almost our own walk. And what they're going to do is removing the, you know, the paper and any concrete, and they're going to lane the main water line, then they're going to lane, I'll go back and do all the service lines and all that. Well, I understand that. They're going to have a livery. Yeah. That's a long ways. It is. Dusty rock. Exactly, yeah. So it'll be within the next two weeks or less. It'll be caving. I think we also talked about, Theresa and I talked about having Amy come in and visit us. If not, the next board meeting will be the one after that. Yeah. Yeah. Because we know they're not going to be here, which I've been saying, you know, I'm going to tell you guys we're not going to make it. Obviously, Tate Joe's contract will stay the same. And he may not, but we're waiting to figure that out because we're waiting for some information that Amy needs from Tate Joe about the late start due to COVID, different things. Obviously, the select board, we didn't budget that $100,000 for stormwater, but we have to and I have managed to get livery-sable done. We've done some other stormwater work with that could be $1,000 in engineering that we were going to engineer these spots. We've actually been able to get some work done. So we have pumped out all the storm drains, but we had a couple of things lined. We had some new things installed. We actually installed new on livery-sable. So, you know, which is nice because then we don't look like a bunch of homes later. I think two years when we go to cut the pavement, we actually had to get that done in here. So we'll have a better idea at the end of September what the projects, you know, what, we're going to have to hand it on to Tate. When they get done, there'll be motor retail. Right. Yeah, it will be paid for. So that's the thing right now. Greg Teatro himself has been down and he is, hopefully in the next couple of weeks, we're going to see three to five more people joining the bruise so that they will pick up a little more speed here. And obviously our main priority, like you said, all along, Tim and I have been saying is we need them because we really want them to get this far. We want them to get off from that little, that piece of Main Street and up to here at least. So, once we have our information, we'll let you know that, obviously, he's been working with Cindy Parks at the State and all that. She's well aware of the situation and what we're doing. The other question I didn't know what to bring up either was the skate park. Yeah. I'm a little disappointed that it sat there for two months. He's here. He poured something for him on vacation. He poured the middle piece and we have to keep water on it for 10 days and then he'll leave back. Because he had to let it cure. We've been all summer. There'll be no use of it. Well, it's good actually because we couldn't have use of it because of COVID. So, he came in and we had, because we have signs over there now. So, he's kind of fit us in for this project and we have to obviously get us less and get us cured between. There's been that two months. Yeah. And I did bring somebody. You did the board covering and I think we're just staying in that traffic world. Yeah. And I did bring in someone to look at the work and to make sure since I wasn't from this contractor he said the work is really good. He said it's top notch. He said that's hard work to do. But he did pour the middle piece while you're on vacation and we've got water on it for 10 days and then he'll be back. So, it'll be buttoned up. I think he was open for the end of August but it'll be buttoned up in the next week. And while we're over there at the same time we have gone around all the inside of the pavilion that's been tightened with all the bolts has been done. Flooring is going to get laid in the office in the spring. It is currently the outside of it has been washed, the building and it's going to be sprayed so that all that cedar will be sealed so that's going to happen here too so we'll have that maintained. Hopefully we have a plumber in there at the end of this weekend and next it looks like there's a water problem in the bathroom maybe just because the shower and the pipe are unseated so that's why water is coming out so Deetries has reached out to someone and they're going to be hopefully meeting up with her this week or next to figure out if that is the issue of why bathrooms play. So hopefully it's just a simpler fitness and not... Oh, and I think too before the next meeting our P9 project may be done. It looks like the... Yeah, he wasn't quite done but he's also looking to do the painting because we put in a new culvert and it looks like we did with the form back and forth if that looks like we may have secured a little bit more money some mitigation money to cover some of that. So what's the finish of that and what will it look like when we take the barrier and use the barrier as well? There's going to be a guardrail so I don't think that's been installed yeah, the guardrail and then just over that is going to be grass. There's a sign about water coming from the road road and... Yes, the road crew is going to be... that road is going to be closed for a few days. I think we're closing at basically for the week there's two electronic signs out there. There's a stormwater drain that has failed and there's a sink hole there so we're going to be digging that portion of that up and replacing it with new SVR and so that road is closed you'll have the detour using Cleveland Brook or Grand Street. Okay, so I've been off the road in Hills so I would... Grand Street. Alright, so oh, I have to go out Grand Street? Well, the quickest way to get to your close-in. Okay. Yeah. And to get out I go Grand Street and then I go on the road because the whole road was marked. Oh, no. Wait. Oh, okay. Just the bottom section. Yeah, there's a sign on the barnard side too obviously down there so they're doing the same thing but it's just it's just a dangerous intersection as we know there is. Yeah. It's very dangerous. That's how that log man goes. Yes, exactly. So that's kind of the sign. Yeah. Okay. So how far are we going just from the beginning there? I don't know. They're chasing us on it. They're not exactly just from the intersection. They're not going to the intersection 107. They're starting to pass tessies. No. Just from like the intersection. Just about greeners for that train. Yeah. There's a house there. And below there are all the hills. Right. Right. Yeah. So it's basically right in the house. That helps next to tessies and up. Yeah. So that are we ready for the washout that is right there past right now? Yeah. Okay. Very good. So the closure itself will only physically affect like two or three houses that are right here. Right. There's no more trap. Everybody else should be able to get wrapped. Yeah. Exactly. Those, you know, just to go all the way outside of the beautiful town. I don't know what to add to the trip. Yeah. So that's just on the packet or trying to give you some information about the the last Wednesday concert. So I hope you all enjoyed the show and enjoyed the concert. We'll be right here. Yeah. Thank you, Ellie. Yeah. It was a wonderful job also. Yeah. I'm so I'm going to still be having other questions from packet. Meeting minutes from 10th of August. Apparently you're not on your packet, so thank you for someone who called. Ellie and she emailed them to you, I guess. Yep. These loans are really good. They're like emotionally acceptable as written. Sure. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. I thought I could say the year was terrific. They I went to the original meeting and also to Scott Hurkins younger. He was there. He was great and then they actually met again and they went out and did a site visit which was terrific so it was actually great. They did an amazing job and that was all there to do. Hydro applied today and it does so it was nice for them to get enforcement because it's easier. Also Dave Scott something to follow so we know it's all laid out. No, everything started that way. No, I'm waiting to I don't know this fall. We got three 20 seconds We sent emails I've sent emails unfortunately that's not on our platform. They got the first 10 of these numbers? No. We got upset next last week because they were coming in the week then they had to change the plan so hoping that they come this week. I spoke to Derek writing about it because of course he has a grand meeting and I said hopefully something is there. I don't know I told Jeremy to let us know when we were coming so that we could do just that but obviously Brandon is kind of throwing him off a little bit because we don't want to you know come in but we're going to go over and do something that we needed to be dried out before they get here So right now I'm waiting on him I did ask him for heads up so that we knew when they were coming so we could make sure they did good because they might make a brush they could throw him into what I asked so all the brush it looked pretty good but I went through there Thursday it looked pretty good but we've had two thunderstorms since then so I don't know what Senate has gone in there but ideally it would be nice to know like a day head and then head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head white weapon I was in there the last party was there last week by myself it was not here because all that And I told them we need to pack the heck out of it, all the holes in it. So it's definitely what was under the painting that we hadn't seen was actually much worse shaped. But my understanding now is once you, if you pour a concrete deck that you shouldn't paint over, I guess that's the new one. I have to say, it is a mixed school of five. Yes, you should, no, you shouldn't paint. But they're painting over that deck over here, on that bridge, where they said they're putting something over it. Not a member. And they put, sprayed some sealer and then they have them in like seven days. It's called a member. They have to take over. I don't know. We have to ask them. It's not best practice to do that. I mean, fine, don't worry, just fine. Because once the water gets under, it just sits under there. So, and these bevels, it's just a much bigger deal than the... I mean, the painting is just going to be a temporary fit. It is. I hope that it buys us five years so that we can figure it out to do the structure. If we had done something five years ago, it would have been just bad now. Yeah. And now it's several days. I know. That breaks pretty bad. Yeah, but it was... It's been that way for a long time. Long time, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think the last props, I think a hundred and eighty. I mean, yeah, they have the rivers. They have to stop that to deal with this. And curvy. The scandal on them. I mean, it's... Are they still taking the dam out this year? They really do work. Yeah, I thought they did it, I don't know. I get it. Honestly, I didn't pay cap. I didn't do it. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, so... I mean, structurally it's falling. Yeah. But it just... Cosmetically it is. And we've got to deal with this falling. And I saw it for a long time. And part of it is too. We've got to deal with this falling on it. In order to do that, you need the whole sandbag, the water, so that you can... It's got a huge price tag on it. So I said to Chris. Me and Chris. That we should just buy a bunch of baby bridges and start buying. Instead of now, I said, like, oh, look at this whole thing. We're just gonna... The price of the original covered bridge was there. Yeah. It was a lot of covered bridges? Years before my time. Oh, really? Yeah, all of them. The bottom half of those are all historic. There's special grants just for those and, you know... And a cover bridge. It's all correct in the last long run. Oh. I don't know. Would that be interesting? Anything else coming forward? Entertain a motion to enter executive session.