 Nope hang on We're gonna start. No Geary right there right there. No, Geary Stop stop Geary Stop right there. Hang on. Oh, no right there perfect. It's center now Just stop playing with the camera Geary. What is up every? Did we just lose him? I lost audio Yeah, we just lost audio What is up everybody welcome to hot makes And it's my phone Take it from the top Jim that that was a rough start What's up everybody welcome to hot makes right here on the edge of tech where we aim to educate Mess up and entertain the maker community. I'm nerdy Jay This is the pooch and Geary is being mischievous in the background. How you doing pooch? I'm fantastic man. It looks like Geary is really messing with your setup today. He is I'm just sitting there Come on. Are you serious? This is what happens when you let an AI run wild just wait Good Geary Anyways, welcome to the show. We have a great show for you tonight right here on hot makes if you're listening to the podcast My camera was going back and forth and back and then I had no microphone. I don't even know How you been it's been a week I've been fantastic man. We had a we had a fantastic weekend great weather I'm suffering now from what Joel had last week when he was on the show like you can kind of hear me extra nasally The pollen counts, you know through the roof. I've been hacking and coughing and pounding, you know the the anti Histamine and stuff and hopefully I got a little settled down now. So we'll see how it goes But anyway, I'm excited for today's show proper printing. Oh my gosh. What a good time Did you get your allergies from Joel like through the camera? I think I caught him last week. He was all sniffly, you know, yeah, they're contagious that way transmissible via Via interwebs, right? Yeah, that's why you don't watch his videos because you don't want to get sick exactly and that's what happens You know, I guess I share share video space with Joel you get sick, but I have an awesome show tonight It is an awesome show. We got a huge crowd today. We got things in the house Thank you to thanks for sponsoring the giveaway yet again $50 gift card at the end of the stream. So stay tuned for that. That'd be awesome Yeah, man, how about you? What was it? How was your weekend? What'd you do? I was great. We hung out I got some stuff done out here filming and then my mom's birthday was yesterday So I had my mom and sister and brother over and my niece and we hung out and barbecued and it was kind of Nice to hang out with family. I mean it's not common these days to do that. So You know, it was kind of nice to hang out with family and then back to work, you know the grind to grind I got to say thanks to Greengate. They sent me this sweet shirt green Greengate. I love it. I got this today. I was like I'm wearing that on the stream but so Speaking of thanks $50 gift card to Amazon at the end of the stream tonight Well, you have to be present to win. So tell them how to enter. Yeah Yeah, so how to enter is there is a link in the description of the video Otherwise nightbot every five minutes will start blasting that link out pretty quick here It is a new link. So don't worry if you probably have not entered it already If it ever says you've entered already great. You're done. You don't have to do it again You just have to enter once Also, what else we got we got discord. Holy crap. We went live with discord today We're just we're on all the channels now every medium. We can possibly be on right? I am pumped I know I had that in announcements for later in a show, but I'm super excited It's it's another thing to hang out with and watch and check it out if you're a YouTube subscriber of the edge of tech it'll actually show up as a Roll I think is what they call it. I'm learning. I'm learning also if you're a patreon It'll show up. You can go to special little patreon area. So don't forget to check that out but hot makes has a section in there and It is taking everything that's tagged hot makes and dropping it in discord So if you don't want to go searching through the YouTube's You know to discord Jump on the server and then all you got to do is go to hot makes Twitter and Anything that's tagged hot makes will be there. You can just scroll through there It's all in one tight little spot and you can check it out there. It's really cool So the the link will actually be floating in the disc or in the chat as well I have that set up with nightbot, but I think Tyler West just pushed it pushed it in there as well Thanks to Tyler for hooking up the discord. He's like man. You need a discord. Let me let me hook you up So he did the work really I mean he's the mastermind. I'm just here Thank You Tyler Other than that, I mean, I don't think we should delay too much. We got such an awesome show ahead We we did have to pre-record Tell tell a little bit about that coach. Yeah, so so John proper proper printing his name is John shown he's in the Netherlands and Due to the time constraint the same thing we had to deal with with willow We ended up having to pre-record this because he's literally it's like 2 a.m. Or 3 a.m. He's asleep right now. He texted me earlier. He's like man. I had a day. I was hauling a desk up and down some stairs I'm gonna go check it in the morning, but have a good show So he sends his best wishes. He unfortunately couldn't be in the chat with us, but we're gonna watch along with you guys We're gonna watch what our interview was so we're gonna time travel We're gonna watch that and you keep in mind. We recorded this what two weeks ago now Jim Yeah, two weeks ago So I kind of teased on the Twitter for those are following on on the Twitters that John had his big win on the Creality contest, which we're super excited for him on and We talk about the contest in the recording, but the results were not in at that point in time So we're gonna we're gonna talk about what it was and then at the end We'll follow up and let you know what he won and then you where to go check it out So yeah, could be one that's so awesome that he won man. I love it. What a great guy, too Yeah, so I mean so stay tuned check this out like he said it's pre-recorded. It's it's amazing interview John is such an awesome Dude, we're gonna jump right into it. You ready pooch. I'm ready. I'm ready. All right. Let's do it Hey, John, how are you? Hi guys, I'm doing great. Oh Man, we're excited to have you on so what we've been talking for a couple weeks now about having you on the show Obviously you you've just been a breakout hit on YouTube with your your channel You've seen a lot of success with with the latest, you know, your latest videos you've had a lot of you guys I think we were talking earlier like Before we dive in You can tell us what you know your first things were but why don't you give us your intro? Tell everybody who you are what your channel is what you're known for what your background is that kind of thing. Okay? Well, I'm John from proper printing and I've got a YouTube channel since a little bit more than two years now and I'm working in an electronics Manufacturer and I've worked at Philips before and I came in touch with with the 3d printing while I was working on Philips And we were making tooling for a production purposes And that's where it basically started and I thought well this is cool I should buy my own 3d printer and it started with that the reality see again and Then I was Not all too happy with how the printer worked. So I thought I can upgrade this myself right and While upgrading I I came across this Small laser engraver and thought maybe that's cool to play with and I bought that and before I started Wanted to not to keep it for myself because I have too many projects Done without filming And that's kind of a shame So I grabbed the cheap camera and just started filming this process and I thought well let's put it on YouTube and see how that goes and That's basically where it started with that small laser engraver the problem problem with that engraver is that it has a Quite weak magnets, so it didn't stay in place. So therefore I start right quick to change Yeah, yeah, it's cable and it's a small change is messing up your whole engraving. So That's basically why I started Yeah, YouTube channel. Yeah, you say the same thing like I think it all kind of Starts like that. We get like for me. I just all of a sudden I had a printer and I was like, you know I want to start learning about this thing Let's film some how-to's based on the catfields guide and next thing, you know I have a YouTube channel and and we're sitting here with John from proper printing. I mean come on Yeah, right and I think it's it's pretty clear if you watch his videos like he pulls from some deep engineering Background so you know you mentioned you work for Phillips and whatnot and it's funny how watching everybody's process how you get Bit by that bug right you start with the printer and then you just go down the rabbit hole, right? And so you know what your laser engraving you're you're milling you you want to be doing, you know all those things, right? Yeah Yeah, and I think the cool a cool thing with is to have a combination between mechanics electronics and software and Both three things are found within one 3d printer. So that's very cool to think away and I think it's awesome that If you're capable of designing in cat, then it's still quite unreal that within a matter of hours you have your part become real in the physical world and that's I never get the first time I saw that printer actually printing and still it's magical once a print and That and your very first print as soon as like you start your own print in your first print It doesn't matter what it is as soon as it's done. It's like man. Yeah, that was that was awesome I waited nine hours for that dog, but it was awesome I know wooden ultimaker one that was the first printer. I actually printed with The that was that was gonna be my next question. Okay, so you started well you but did you you didn't own that ultimaker? Did you is that something you had for work? Yeah Infested in a few of these printers and said to the employees just play with them and see what you can do with it so that's where it started and I gotta say I think the first thing the first time I became aware of you was I think it was your folding ender Modification that was a big hit. Yes. It was my my first I'm a first video which actually took off. There was this this fall book printed. There it is. Oh My god, I love that. I haven't changed it since and The idea was with it with this design was taken on the road and still working on that for a future version 2 But this has a the flexi drive So it has the extreme motor here in the direct drive system here with this flexible shaft and I can Disconnect this and add another tool and I was working on Printing food because I didn't want the large dispenser with an extra motor on there and the idea was to take this on the road to go to a restaurant and start printing food But then the whole virus came in so that I had to That pesky pandemic And then I thought let's let's pick up something else But this still is forgotten and this is actually running on on Windows with a small computer inside here Did you say it runs on Windows? Yeah, with a Let's let it panda. It's a small Windows computer just 64-bit Intel processor with an Arduino It's a combination quite small with touch screen and it's The reason behind that was that I could Design my own user interface and show the recipes at the screen so you can swipe between the photos Recipe and start printing food So that's still isn't an arm-based version of Windows then if you said it's on our it's not an odd in Arduino You said there's an Intel processor, but you have an Arduino also Yeah, it's a standard processor standard architecture with an Arduino on one system I got you can you pull it in front and do the do the fold again for us and Gary you got get get my transformer sound ready I want to hear it. Okay. Yes. This is what it is. All right. Here's how it here's how it goes Love that If you're going to move this You can use this as a camera slide you can put a camera on there and oh come on This is this is the brilliance, you know, that is is that is proper printing because Yeah, yeah, that's that you can you program in that sound so that doesn't Yes Like pooch said that's I mean that that printer right there was what drew me to your channel It came across the feed and I was like whoa, whoa, whoa folding folding enters I'm in let's go watch this and then ever since then. I mean, you've done some huge things the rim like the rim of your car, right? I got it right under the desk here. What for some reason. Oh my gosh It's it's in two pieces now. Yeah, but yeah, it's not I was designed failure But this still is a few kilos of ABS and it's yeah, it's massive That is I got it. I gotta tell you John That's one of my favorite things about your channel is the fact that you share the failures Just as much as the success and that is not Common and it needs to be more common because as You know, anyone will attest to you know That is the journey that is where the learning happens and you know, you're you when your filament fuser one for example And you were there was just a constant so many shots of you just like this Yeah And I think it was it was awesome that even hackaday has featured that video knowing that it was a failure, but it was Pretty cool that even that platform will show us the failures as well, right? And I think that's important to show but not and it's almost It's impossible that everything goes well the first time and if it does then you could Have done you could have gone even a bit further to find your point of failure So if you're trying to get most out of it You will definitely feel and that's those are the points that you'll actually learn but it can be very frustrating But it's always Yeah, it's always fulfilling when when it eventually turns out good and a learning experience, right? I mean that your conclusion in that video. I was first of all I was I was shocked. I was like I'm this is absolutely gonna work I mean like it's all the detail like and the fact that you ended the video and you were like, you know what? it didn't work, but I I learned a lot from it and I got this idea for a future video from it and so you pulled value from it, right? Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. So speaking of Failures and it didn't work the printer would be to your right We featured this a couple weeks ago on hot makes and this is one of your newest inventions How many I mean let's talk about that and then let's talk about how many times it failed before you got it right, right? Because that's I mean, I bet that was a massive undertaking that thing. Tell us about it. Yeah, it was the first This is a swappable hot end which doesn't use a servo motor and with these two wedges at the opposite ends It can go from one hot end to the other and I think that the cool thing is that if you're going to home it It will automatically choose this tool one and then you can start printing and go to the second tool and swap between the two two hot ends and the biggest Problem was that I want to use the the standard motor So I don't want to increase the current or use a stronger motor I want to use it as standard as possible and to find the optimal balance between stiffness and the capability to to switch between two hot ends right Quite difficult. It was at first. It was very stable, but way too stiff So it was just going against it and started skipping steps Well, and I gotta tell you that's one of the I am not nearly as good at fusion as you are Obviously, you have a much deeper background at that One of the best things about cad in this day and age is that you know, you can draw up You can spend a lot of time doing animations and simulations and all this stuff on on CAD but until you actually start making it holding it in your hand playing with it There's a lot of stuff that you still can't Tell from the computer that you really need to take into the physical world, right? Yeah, and it's making me quite lazy as well because I don't like doing the calculations So I think well This is good enough So I'll just start printing it and I will see if it's actually good enough and nine out of ten times It's not good enough, but therefore I use a white PLA for my prototypes So you can just use an ordinary pencil and draw on the prototype itself It's like a 3d notebook and then you can just print it draw on there which you have to change and Start making an excitation And that's actually an excellent excellent idea for for myself and then for anyone watching I mean that I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that use white PLA and then actually take your notes on the material Yeah, that's that's awesome. That's a great pro pro tip. Yeah A client once with a product was unrelated to this channel, but I designed something and I was discussing it with him and while we were discussing it I was making notes on that part itself and he was like hmm. That's that works great And that's I like to go for prototypes white PLA is my prototyping material Did not is that something you came up with yourself or did you see that in your you know in engineering? No, I just it was an accident. I think maybe I can write on it and it turns out pretty good Nice. Well, you heard it here. That's a proper tip from proper printing use white PLA take notes on it genius genius It really is you must use a lot of white PLA then, huh? Yeah Go through a lot. That's that's fantastic. So that the the printer the tool changer one that you had done there Now you actually developed that for a creality competition, right for printer modification. I mean, no I don't know how you can't win given all the modifications. You've done the creality printers over there. It's like that who can compete with you I Got I was stacked on on Instagram With I didn't hear of that creality contest before and they tagged me all this who is going to win this contest I think prop printing rule with this full one of three and I initially thought well, I will just submit this full one of three. That's no effort So here is my drawing and good luck, but I Wanted to do something new and one of them the things they will look at is how easy it is to implement and This is not very easy to implement so my goal was to make it as simple as possible and focus on one thing and I wanted to make something that I haven't done before. I'm That's rather event something new which is worse than trying to improve the old thing That's I always try to find something that I haven't done before Well, and that's such an awesome thing that you're like, you know, I could submit this amazing piece right here But what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna make this amazing piece right here. So But how does it I mean I we can kind of see you have you have school holders on each side Can you explain how it works? So it looks like you got you know kind of crossing boat ends and And as you explained as it goes I imagine your g-code tells it okay Go all the way to the right to switch to this head all the way to the left to switch to that head Yeah, and that's more that's more difficult than. Oh, I think we lost your audio The power could be it could be his batteries Yeah, the battery that I'll never get I'll never let that I don't think he's using batteries I think he plugged the the printer in and it was like, you know, I think the printer is gonna start talking to us That's maybe you could talk to it. Oh, yeah, there we go Had to reboot windows Yeah, yeah, no, that's okay. I Will show you how this thing works. Let me Are you doing it from a tablet there? Yeah, it's a windows. Okay. I got you like a surface Yeah, it's a surface pro here. I thought like that that's controlled by windows too. I'm like, come on Are you joking me right? He's got it Running within a quiet old board. It's also quite noisy and I've connected it through USB and therefore my audio went all crazy And so I can Control it manually so I can just Through a terminal screen. I can send individual g-codes to the screen to show you how this thing works Perfect. So I will start with the homing sequence. That's G28 I love it real-time g-code demo. Nothing is nothing ever went wrong for real-time demos. Yeah, great Here we go. You see it automatically switches to that tool one And you can hear that there are old stepper motor drivers. Oh, yeah So now it's helped and I will raise it up a bit. Otherwise the nozzle is crepe on the on the print bed so if I send G1 Is that 10 millimeters? For example, it will go up 10 millimeters. That's fast and the most difficult thing was To make it swap while using the commands t1 and t0 so tool 0 Should be right here until one should be right here Yeah, and I had to modify the firmware on a lower level than I'm actually used to so within the seek out itself to change the The sequence normally after like the if 3d tool changer You have them here back and you define all coordinates for the the tools And I have to I had to make the coordinates that it's all the way here or there So if I select just t1 Then it goes. That's whoa. That's snappy man. That's really you got it quick. It's so satisfying to hear that click And while printing it so if you're in the other room, it's it sounds quite funny when you during training I've said I run a I run a decent sized print farm these days John and you know The the number one thing that you have to train on is is with your ears Because you you grow accustomed to the sounds that the printer should make and then when you hear a sound that you don't normally hear That's when like something's wrong something scratch it. Something's clicking Yeah I'm going to turn it off again. So maybe my audio will again Fill me Let's see The remix do we still have him? Yeah, we got I The one thing just took it too far and then the whole system shut down, you know, just like lose the fuse. I love it man, I absolutely love this so if For one Have you released files for this? Are you going to release files for this? You know that kind of thing is it going to be open source is it going to be like How is it going to be out there for us to play with or is this like a John exclusive for this contest? It's it's mixed I've placed everything on my website together with an explanation of how to modify the firmware Also with the firmware itself so you can just download it and flash it and it would work But if you are using another printer, then I've placed all lines that I've modified on there So you can modify yourself. What website is that on? Proper printing proper printing dot-pro. It's Make sure it's on the bottom there. Yeah, we got it Distinction between them the source files and this the step files. That's sorry the stl files You can download the stl files for free and just replicate this and if you want to do modifications Then I release the source files to my patreons only so that's the what I've I Yeah, that's awesome. So so follow you on patreon We can get the source files that you created for this printer. I love that yeah, one of the things I love about your website John is That you give people the option obviously to don't you like you you're not selling per se But you certainly are encouraging a donation and the the donations that you're asking for seem so small compared to like the Amount of hours and time and effort you've put in so it's like I hope that people are are more than happy to throw you a Few euros for a lot of these things because they're incredibly useful You know, obviously not just this you've put up your you know your tool swapping Peace and and a lot of the other projects that you've invested a lot of time and energy in Yeah, I think that It's the 3d printer community is sometimes pretty tough to to make money in because everything Of everyone expects it to be free and open source and if it's not then often a lot of people say Why why are you charging money for this and I think that it It should be open source this I think this is a great platform to have open source hardware, which is quite uncommon So therefore I've chosen between This donation option, so it's not like thingy first you can It plays it there and not gain any money from it Or the other way that you must pay for it I think that this is a great balance in between that people who are willing to just to give money or and can Can afford it? they are Yeah, they are capable of they will give money so that's awesome and also for the people or poor students They can just download it for free Nice, that's an awesome option. So I mean You have the two two awesome things here. Is there anything else you can we want to show us? You can show us that yeah working on or my future project. Yes exclusives We're big on exclusives and there it is what off. Have you seen this? this small board See your hands you what do you think what let's see let's get in there. That's your guess. What would it be? If I had to guess hold on let's see there we go make it bigger What's the IO look like on that thing? Is there any ports? I can't it's however hard time seeing I don't know Jim You have any guests? He's coming in it. It definitely looks like a board. Yeah, there it is. Oh, oh Okay, okay. All right, so we got some Is that a baby board like for a printer? Yeah, well, he's got some screw terminals there one step of motor output And it has a an end stop it has an heater output So it's built to control one board Sorry one motor Okay, and I have an example here. I said the back of this model And the idea is that it runs on clipper and clipper is Love the clipper multiple boards with one Raspberry Pi the special firmware which you can flash on the Raspberry Pi which runs on octoprint and Then with clipper you can flash the boards and the Raspberry Pi is doing all the calculations So the gcode and what it has to do and at the lower level it will send the commands to the individual boards and You can assign multiple boards to control one printer and say to well this board You are an extruder motor. You are an X motor. So For this printer Normally you just have one extruder motor, but if you add this board to it you can add clipper to this and don't have to May add an extra board to the or here don't have to replace your board You can just add an extra of these and control an extra extruder motor Brilliant. So that's what I found on purpose on on the internet and I think that this is a great board and I haven't seen it much. There aren't any YouTube videos about it and I can send you a link about it It's called the Hava. It's a Swedish print. It's why do I not sponsor it? I'm just very Yeah, I think this is a great product And I thought that this would Work well for this rocker, but the fun fact is that I didn't find it Due to this this rocker because I'm working on something else which uses this board Oh, man So it's okay. So it's a modular. It's basically a modular setup So you can literally add those you're not bound by the inputs on on a specific printer board You can expand or contract as need as needed. That's really fascinating The mister input so for example If you want to add an enclosure heater and you don't have the extra heater Connection on your board. You can just add this and say well, you're in a closure heater now So nice It's basically the possibilities are quite endless once you're using clipper And I just found out about clipper. Some people suggested to do to use it for this mod But I'm going to do it for something Oh boy, here we go. Here's the reveal. What is it? What is it? Drum roll. Oh, it's a camera slider. Yeah, oh dang it I had the idea of making a modular camera slider And I didn't want to use a full-sized board for just Going from point A to point B. Sure. And I thought how awesome would it be to have one small board which can make this movement and I was I I wanted to make a board as small as this And I wanted to design it myself But before I did I thought well, maybe I should do some research first if something like this already exists and then I found this And this is Running on a canvas. So you can just it's a bus so you can add as many boards as you'd like So instead of going just from point A to point B I can also Rotate like this or do a panning movement. Oh, man Three. Okay. So you're three axes right now Yeah, wow And it's uh, it's modular. So I've designed basically my own camera system Which I at this point used for all my cameras also that camera Because I've several tripods and some tripods They have different connections So now all my tripods are the same and I can just 3d print my own camera holder Beautiful. Now that is awesome All right, I I just got a motorized camera slider on I got here on Friday and I was playing with it yesterday And now I need to send it back and do this Take your own huh Jim Oh, man, that is phenomenal. So John. I gotta ask You know the cinematography and the photos that you take are one of the things I really love about your channel You do you have a background in photography? No, is this a hobby for you? Yes, I have um, I've bought a A canon secondhand canon 1d mark 3 which was not capable of filming But I would like I wanted to know a bit more about making photos And I haven't heard of aperture or shutter speed before I didn't know what that was So um, I watched way too many Peter McKinnon videos and that got me excited And I started with this Simple ATD Nice, that's an ATD Yeah, if there is Four four parameters for this for making videos. So it's not that difficult. Nice. I just uh Doing what looks good That's awesome. Uh, maybe a couple months ago. I just went to the 90 d and that's what uh, I'm shooting on right now um But yeah, uh, so so very much excites me that you're using almost the same camera Uh on that slider right now because that means, um, here's my money. Take it. I need it So John, you had it so good one other you can for example, um, place it like this And uh, make overhead shots and uh, uh, Penning And you I already shown the safety mechanism within it. Um, because it has a dovetail connection But with two slots so I can Um, it will be locked at the end. So it doesn't accidentally just fall when it's not Mounted uh fast enough nice You think of everything man I've dropped my camera before so That those are the moments that you'll leave I was setting up for an overhead shot yesterday and I like please don't fall. Please don't fall. Please don't And this is the the module with uh, which can rotate and it's uh a bearing made with uh, assof BBs So there isn't any play but it can Have force on the uh Yeah, if it rotates pretty smooth and because it's a monster Just duplicate this And you can also add this to for example a um A tripod and make a simpler version and just slide this on the tripod And make your camera itself rotate without having a slider and just put your camera on there And and you control that with like a remote control. How do you control it? With clipper. So it's a clipper. Okay a bit overkill. But um, yeah, it's basically clipper and you Send the gcode or add the gcode file and let this thing rotate And I think it's pretty interesting to See the research the possibility of making Astro photography So you can compensate for the rotation of the earth and make really long exposure Photos that's something that I would like to try someday with this. Oh, that's so cool I have a friend. He was actually here yesterday. We were shooting and he bought a specific tripod just for that ahead That follows the rotation and and we went out and did the eclipse a couple years ago when the eclipse was running through And he got some just amazing shots So if you could if you can do that too, uh on top of all this, oh my god, I'm in take my money It's over. I'm sorry woot. I don't need any more shirts I need I need uh, you know john's You're doing proper printing gear. Yeah, I need proper printing gear, but um, man, that's so good System is uh below this Yeah, this foot so you can also Clamp a tripod to the feet itself nice You can make ramps for example Hopefully it doesn't crack I'm just I'm just sitting here and I'm like, you know what? Let's let him go because he's just gonna pull out. I was like it's better than steve jobs like oh when there's one more thing He's just like oh and also it can do this also it can do this Yeah, I can use more and I can use two Two tripods so I can place it at any angle as I want and just make a slide Brilliant design So really big on modularity flexibility and all your design you really think of everything, don't you? um No It's uh It just happens at first. I I just wanted the camera sliders. So only the sliding motion um And while Designing it's adding more and more. It's like it's never good enough So then if you aren't careful then you will end up with a way to over-engineered camera slider Running on a high-end raspberry pi. No such thing. No such thing. So good. I uh, I um, I can't wait for videos on this videos on this video equipment And and also I can't wait for you to release the this I'm joining. I don't care what it takes I need that in my life one more one more question up for you before we get off the camera sliders And then we got a couple hot makes that I'm hoping you'll go through with us um You uh in your in your filament fuser shot we talked about earlier the your your fail But it was on hackadans stuff. You did an orbital shot Uh while you were doing your assembly and it was like one of the best Montages I've seen uh jim you have to you have to check that out if you haven't seen it We'll have to put a link But uh at one point the the the thing collides with him and it knocks him over and my son and I And we were cracking up you uh, I don't know if maybe you're gonna which proper I'm sorry. Which video was it? It was the uh the fusing the filament fusing. Um, yeah video he did a not too long ago It was quite difficult to time it because I had the just an ordinary tripod hanging here at the ceiling and I was just winding it up and Holding it still and then let it go and then start my my thing and every time when the camera came I had to do this or this so the camera just moves and then do my thing And I was just making some uh, some cuts when the camera was behind me So it's everything looked Look more seamless and I had the the drill the small the small drill at the table And the camera was going behind that drill. So that's a great point to actually make a cut So everything looks smooth, but in between it was not that smooth Oh, it's so good The amount of time you must put into those videos is just incredible man It looks like you and you've been pretty consistent with your release You know looks like you do about once a month. Maybe is that maybe a couple sometimes two Once every two weeks But lately I've done a bit less and I'm thinking of taking a break For a few weeks because I have a lot of things going on and the problem is that I don't have I haven't made any videos up front. So I constantly I'm running to At or to get that video out there in time and once it's released then I have to run again So I'm I'm going to take a break for I think Three or four weeks and then I can steadily make up a new video of make new videos again So I'm going to announce that soon on twitter that I'm going to have a little break. I need that Well earned well earned break. Yeah. Yeah for sure and Uh, I mean I I just I can't wait to see more about this if you do have the Camera slider stuff out yet or you're not do you not put it out yet? I'm not yet. I haven't I started making the video, but I'm Not all too happy with it and I made Not the best decision because I uh, I wanted to run everything with with the raspberry pi zero it's this way to cute Very tiny raspberry pi. I thought this should be capable of running everything. Um, I can install clipper on there I've done it, but it constantly gives errors because it's too slow So I've ordered the raspberry pi four And I'm going to try it with that And uh, you know feel free to shoot me over anything you want me to test for you behind the scenes I was showing Man I am super pumped. I uh, I had my first taste of sliders yesterday. I never had one until yesterday I learned how to use it and shot a whole bunch of stuff and he was I mean just Working on yeah, it was It was uh, it was so much fun But now like seeing yours where like you could make it do ah, it blows my life. All right So I got so Okay, we could talk with john all day about it. I was just gonna say we should probably jump in the Hot makes I know we're going late, but but john i'm hoping you might take a couple more minutes with us and look at Some of the things that people have been submitting to us and tagging hot makes so we can all Uh learn from all the amazing stuff that's been out on the internet Uh, and for you guys if you're new to the show if you just hashtag something hot makes on twitter, uh, we will Pick it up and uh featured on the show. So without further ado. Let's uh, let's dive in here, huh? So On this Completely talk over the bumper First one coming at us this uh this week from jeff erb ebberl Uh, in case you missed it. He's been working on a sand table sandify.org work area uh and It's on the counter next to his desk uh using the new zen x y design. He's loving it more details He posts a link here. Here's a here's a good look at it John have you seen these sand tables before? Very sad. I see one of my um, I see live on he made Yeah, a few months ago. He made an epic video on here. Yeah, and I talking about time lapses This is uh, awesome to make a sliding time lapse with uh with this See if I could get any bigger now. That's as big as I can get. Yeah, the They're really it's like the modern day zen, right? You know, you don't have to have the sand garden with the rake You've got now. We've got machines to do all of our uh, our zen work for us Very cool. I I I need to make I I think I need to do a project of this too I know like like you said rc life on did one, but I would love to have a table like this. Um, I believe my 11th month old would knock it over but Uh But it would be awesome. Yeah. Yeah, it's just a cool prop to have standing there and it's just doing its thing quite, you know, it would be super cool and here's it Here's a video idea for for someone smarter than me. You can make this happen On the wall behind you To make it like drawing through the sand somehow the sand is to modify gravity that Yeah, well, you know, I mean someone could do it. You could do it. I'm sure Gravity no problem. What if what if it wasn't sand though? What if it was like ink? You know, oh like like like an etch a sketch Interesting Magnets, right? Paul America stand. Yeah, sure. Oh man. There's a gym throwing down just, you know, basic simple challenges there Yeah, you know, that's how we got the torture toasters, you know onward. Oh, look what we got here From graphy check out this white. I got today bright white. You print in a lot of white filament. This is pretty white What the heck is this? Are we being trolled? It's somebody's literally hot making some white That's hilarious. So, uh, I saw that and I had to throw that in today's list because it is. I mean, that's the brightest white I've seen to use What was the context of this they were talking about like I need I need a super white filament where I can find it Yeah, leave it to smart alec graphy right there Moving on moving on Okay from chris travis chris travis has been doing a lot of printing lately. Uh, this is uh black widow by eastman Eastman is an epic Look at that That's a that's a pretty pretty dang good fdm print right there I'm just like kind of looking at it and looking at how it went together And this is what I like about 3d printing is that um, both worlds of the parametric engineering modeling and the The modeling like more sculpting come together on one platform. So I think that's that's pretty dope I got I could never make this. I tried some modeling before but um, yeah I did I tried some modeling two ones. Uh, the problem is they didn't want to plus size so Oh bad bad joke Um, but yeah, you're you're right. I I admire everyone out there who puts their time into doing this It takes so much time to do this and I draw stick figures. So I Organic modeling none of us like you know, I'm more of a technical background as well too. So You know organic modeling is just mind blown, you know the the attention to detail the amount of time that it takes You know, it's so different. I try to do it in in maya or blender But um, it's not for me. That that's what's the complication that I I've made then you have You have guys like uh, Sven over at clock spring. He's like, yeah, I just did that all in code What? Yeah, I mean How do you how do you visualize that? I don't know. That's crazy. Right. So he's a big um, What's the we were just talking about it? What's the program he uses the that's all code based Isn't it it's not blender? Uh, no, no Yeah It's it's a The chat just blew up like I know they're like come on pooch. What's going on? Yeah, no open scat and It's funny because like some people they're just like some people are mathematically inclined some people Like there's different tools for different people that work well for different things and so you're you're absolutely right John is what makes this uh such a neat Uh tool for for all different kinds Very good share. Thank you for that chris travis coming at us light speed another prolific printer He seems like he's spitting out stuff every Every day almost these days gamer mythic mug By ours merendi 3d now. I hadn't heard of this maker before jim. Had you come across them? I have not um I do know that Nice. I do know that I absolutely love the the mug and the print I'm gonna throw them a follow there. This looks pretty good. We need to follow him or her Look at that Don't you just hate it when you got dragons on your tower, you know And your gold all coming. I mean like this is a very unique filament that I'd never heard of before Um, that's that ad north 3d. I've never heard of that. Um, have you heard of that one john? No, but I'm wondering what's what's that on the printer all the way on the left Oh, wait, hold on. Let me go back. Let me go back for you. Let's say here over here. This looks like a camera mount Which is here? Yeah Yeah, that's I think that's uh Raspberry pi mount or uh Oh, no, no, that's uh like a little webcam. That's a gopro mount of some kind. Uh looks like for their time lapses Stephen if you're watching let us know what camera you have mounted to your printer there We inquiring minds want to know john wants to take it and make it into a sweet slider Yeah, I'm sure That looked like one of those uh gopro heroes the little square ones. Yeah. Oh, there you go Yeah, this this is a dice tower, right? So it sure looks like it although i'm not seeing the output. Yeah So I don't know it's that mug. It's that mug. So let's see. It's a stein They swapped the film on while while printing or not Yeah, it looks like F1 silver printed solid gold. I'm guessing so maybe they're gold winner Uh, anyway, then I add north textured flair sparkling green. Um, it has little fibers. It says in it. I mean, that's That is awesome. So I need to see what this is. I'm gonna have to go find this Gamer mythic mug and see Exactly what we're looking at here, but Steven's probably yelling at us in the chat right now Yeah It's a mug, you know, would you drink would you drink a nice beer out of that? I don't know. Yeah, why not be pretty epic Why no good share steve. Thank you Here's uh coming out. Oh this I figured you might like john Because you did a printer that kind of uses the same principles as this but this is from geek mom projects She's a she's a favorite maker of ours Took a lot of trial trial and error, but she made an infinity octahedron And look at look at what we got here This is uh, this is probably a better look at the whole insides of it And so If you see it for real, it's it's so weird to see actual depth while it's not there Yeah Wow Is this the the closest thing that we can get to making our own tesseract these days like just the real Because that's that's the first thing I thought when I saw john's uh Printer that he had kind of done this this type of effect with Yeah, that's just um one way One way way sheets one way mirrors at all sides of the enclosure and you will get an infinitely large 3d printer Um, but my tip is not to use one way foil in a heated chamber Uh, I heat up that chamber to 70 degrees celsius, but the foil is is going to is It's all bubbly and it doesn't work that well the actual one-way glass which is used for Uh for interviewing That's it's way too expensive That looks even better So that's neat and she's got some different colors and man that looks like a really fun project The the thing that's impressive about this is the size and how Uh compact and like you got to think about like the wire management and like the things to like actually you did a video on this yourself john where you're talking about like When you've got all these lights to deal with managing all these wires is a big deal Also on this printer at the back Oh Oh, let's pull in on john here real quick Sorry to take away from geek mount projects everything. Um, do you see this? Yeah, that you get your cable your cable chain there Yeah, with a custom connector. So I can detach Uh the wires of this uh this bed and now everything is is neat and So that's the cable management I did for this this printer And I was thinking of making this modular as well. So you can add different beds or Do some experiment experiments with it, but I didn't like the way it's it's um mounted on a standard printer Just soldered directly to it, right? So I thought I used these two high power connections and Make this connector and that's that goes pretty good And I like that because it's so 3d printed I can also combine features like this drag chain to a connector just in one piece So that's one thing i'm uh experimenting with and that's beautiful management that works pretty good That's beautiful. And if you want to see more about that you guys go check out proper printings channel He doesn't really need deep dive to you did a resin print where you did a pretty amazing 40 pin connector with that that obviously took a lot of work too. So if you're interested in that Definitely go check out john's channel Uh one more one more for today. We're gonna cut it short, but uh coming from uh our our bud over in the uk uh philip mit frenzy tom jackson been a learning curve, but he's uh, he's been really into the tool changer Uh the e3d tool changing system and this is a this is a cup. It looks like he made on the tool changer Look at that. That is awesome And of course, I mean spot on like we would expect, right? Yeah Yeah, no, I like and and you know tom is He'll show the details. I mean you can see there's maybe like a little ringing and but you know, he's just a very Diligent tuner and so i'm sure he's he's getting this thing dialed in and that's really That's really something for having independent tools and Swapping in and not having nearly About using the uh duet or something. Um That's what the tool the tool changer is driven by the duet system. Oh, okay. I got it. Yeah Yeah, this is you can see that the ringing On the one color is going in one direction and then the other color is going into the other direction. Yeah. Yeah, yeah Yeah, that's interesting and it's that it's that ability to read the print like that and and understand What modifications you have to make to tune it to to get a better result? You know, that's a real art form and or one of the many art forms we see in 3d printing. Yeah, right Beautiful. That's a keen as a keen eye to catch that one just from flashing the picture quick Yeah Yeah, well, he said that's that's what john does man He's constantly looking for ways to improve stuff. John. Have you done any work with uh, when he any tool changers? We're like, I know you built your own but have you have you seen the e3d system? Have you seen other tool changing systems? What do you think? I've seen it the only one I've experienced with is the dual uh hot uh the dual head from The ultimaker printer and this one but before this I haven't Used any Multimaterial prints Yeah, it'll be it'll be interesting to see how this technology develops, uh, you know to to make You know New things obviously adding color adding different materials to your prints adds dimensions adds, you know new abilities So, you know, the future is bright as they say Or combined Combine multiple tools for example, you can Laser engrave your 3d prints So first you can print the front panel and laser engrave it afterwards And if you have tool change you can do all in just one one go on one platform Yeah, yeah, I think you'd even shown something where it was like a two-part where there was like a milling process to to get Really refined tolerances with you know, do broad prints and then mill out so you have a nice finish Obviously that's that's quite interesting to to take a further look into yeah, yeah for sure Well That rounds out the the batch of hot makes we have for today and frankly we've we spent a lot of time talked about a lot of awesome stuff Um, I'd say real quick john if you would just uh, like I said wrap it up tell people Where to find you where to follow what to look forward to? You have the floor You can follow me on proper printing or proper printing dot pro on instagram on the website Just search for proper printing and what I do is I share my ideas and inventions and um, I show the whole process Everything what goes wrong and I have all my successes as well And uh, if I start the video if I start recording, I don't know how it ends. So that's uh, I take the the viewer with me with the journey to Make something new and that Hasn't been done before that's my goal And what a journey it is my friend and we look forward to all the amazing stuff that's going to come I'll watch my inbox for those files for the slider. No rush. No rush But we you know, like we said, it's it's been amazing journey to watch your channel and watch it grow You're growing fast and we cannot wait for what comes next for proper printing. You know, we really appreciate you being Thanks for joining us. Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot for having me. It was awesome talking to you guys and uh, Hopefully we will meet one day. That would be great Yes, we got to do uh, whatever festival whenever they open up again We definitely all have to get together and do like one big live show with everybody. That would be amazing That would be awesome. Yes. Well, we definitely again. We appreciate you being here. We're gonna jump in on the episode now We're gonna jump in and do some giveaways. Maybe even a pooch rant I'm not sure All right, guys, well, uh, john hang out right there We'll be right back with you if you want to hang out for the rest of the episode with us But uh, we will see you soon. Thank you again for being on Yes, thank you again. Bye All right, that was awesome. What'd you guys think? Wow Just wow man so many like great little nuggets. We got we got some exclusives. We got some pro tips um It was just like so many great little bits in there. I hope you guys were able to kind of keep up, but uh It was really fun Getting to pick john's brain and here and stuff and and we've got some updates So since that that we recorded that two weeks ago. We're back real time now Here's the newspaper proof of life today is what is it april 12th? So back time traveling. We do time traveling from time to time uh What you tell i mean tell jim tell them What the big news on on the proper printing front has been since Man the big news uh john tweeted out uh a couple days ago That he found out that he won that creality contest, which is just absolutely phenomenal. He was uh watching through the anniversary livestream they had and paused it and found his name up on their big board in the back So, yeah, man. It was really cool and uh, do you know what he won? Yeah, well well earned. Uh, he got a five thousand dollar grand prize and uh, you know He gets promotion on the creality site and I think there was a couple of other Things I think he gets he told me I'd have to I'll look at my notes and stuff But I know I know the grand prize was that cash prize and and he was really you know Blown away. He was like I still can't believe it's real But um, I mean like I said well well earned I mean you look at what he did with that that tool changer And it's just hard to imagine anybody being able to compete with that It was so smooth to watch opera, right? How many how many guys out there have an ender and would be interested in doing that mod because that mod is available on john's uh site and Talk about adding some pretty awesome utility to your machines. I love those connectors for the bed I I think that should be standard standard equipment. Oh, yeah Yeah, and I mean that's smart on creality's part, you know It's a good way to get kind of some r&d some ideas and stuff Who knows obviously it all comes down to like what does it cost to produce? You know their name of the game is kind of the bargain Printer and so they have to kind of weigh what it costs to manufacture with it, but completely agree. I mean that is a Such a cool mod and so useful and I really hope he does follow through on the modular bed design It would be really interesting to see You know, I'm not sure why you would want to do that as opposed to just say like, you know Do a mag, you know flex plate or something? But if anybody can figure out why it's john I 100% agree. Uh real quick chris greets. Thank you so much 20 Oh, what was it? I think I saw there it is our penguin Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh just because you are all nerdy j awesome john sexy pooch and geary are hot. We're hot Yes, we are and uh, I I was working with uh cyberdeck cafe a little while ago and and we planned it So we're actually not live right now, but I said chat and make sure you tell me to flip my hair and make sure that i'm live and Wait, wait, wait. Hey, no, no, no too sexy my friend too sexy Here we go with this again, I don't even know what i'm gonna do. All right. This is exactly why everybody came I I don't know phenomenal uh phenomenal time with john there and uh Wow, this is gonna make me throw up. Um We had a lot of fun. Let us know in the chat. What did you guys think? What was your favorite part about john's interview because uh, if you couldn't tell during the chat The slider was mine. I mean, I don't know anything about sliders, but brian vines. Thank you so much. Please have some dollars Um, thank you, but thank you for your dollars. We appreciate them And and and the euros and all the other things that people have been so kind to to donate Oh my goodness. Oh jump the shark again. How many I how many times can we jump the shark battle cry? You said that like two weeks ago. What did I say? Oh proper printing, right See i'm just hey practical printing. That'll be another 20. Just just on the side, you know, um Do not confuse practical printing with proper printing. They're totally different types of printing Every time every time but both awesome dudes Don and Albert uncle. Thank you so much ten Dollars for a super sticker. Oh, I like that sticker. Thank you so much. Um So last call if you want to get in on the 50 dollar amazon gift card Use the link you've seen all day in the description and uh, we're gonna get to that just shortly kevin Thank you so much five bucks. Have some dollars Thank you Man, you guys are awesome more dollars. Everybody's just like here's some dollars dollars. You're just making it right dollars So, uh, we have some fun stuff coming up for you next week. We won't give it away But we might be announcing another contest. You never know also, uh, you know what? I think next week is the first in like five or six weeks. We don't have a guest with us. Do we? Well, you know what jim it'll be good to be get back in our roots We you know you and I can connect a little more. We'll just you know Better eye contact better engagement between oh, we have geary too. Don't forget geary We checked in with geary today. How you doing today, geary? I'll be a guest. What am I choplover? Yeah, no, you're always here. You're not you're not a guest. You're you're welcome here You once you're you're on the show once you're not a guest anymore your family chopped chopped capacitors chopped Honestly, I just said you're a family, you know, I have to take over the camera. We got you. You're in control, you know That's the geary man. He'll He'll mess with you. Oh, so I'll wait for everybody to jump in that spreadsheet. Gee, many christmas Stop it. Um, we're waiting for everybody to jump in that spreadsheet. Uh, pooch. Do you have something for us today? Oh, yeah, I got a I got a rant. I haven't done a rant in a while, right? What do you guys think you guys ready for a rant? Andrew rogers You're gonna pooch rant right now for your five bucks. Look at that. Yes. Ask and delivered Let's do it All right, so this week's rant I gotta tell you I was so there I am. I'm driving. I'm sushi rolling the way that I Was Wait, what do you mean when you don't know what sushi rolling is? You know, it's like Before I was like there was ghost riding the whip There was all this thing sushi rolling is an invention of my own where it's like you put your car on autonomous driving mode Right, you recline a little bit. Yeah, you have your sushi You pull your tray of sushi up and your chopsticks, right? And and then you roll your window down and sometimes Sometimes I like to like hang that little thing out like you get at the sonic where you have the little platform And so while you're just, you know, while you're rolling down, uh, the road You just you just sit there and you snack on some sushi and let, you know, the people appreciate that you're sushi rolling How have you never sushi rolled before? I mean, I don't have a tesla So maybe there's that This is what we do as tesla owners. It's like autonomous driving and you know, just like rubbing it into everybody else It's like, oh, like I don't need to hold the steering wheel I'm gonna have my car will do that for a little while But if you let go the steering wheel too long, you know, it'll cruise and it'll say wait, we don't detect a driver's hands Please grab the steering wheel. There's ways around that. There's ways around that Anyway, I never just rolled down the road with my sushi hanging out Well, I was in the I was at the front seat. It wasn't like I was taking my nap in the back seat I was in I was sushi rolling, right? So you're in there. All right. Anyway, I'm eating my sushi Okay, and I go, you know, so I have my sushi out and I have it You know, there's some nice looking ladies traveling by and uh, and I'm looking to impress them the way that obviously You know, you do why when you have sushi and you're eating in the car and and I go, you know And I go to take my my chopsticks out Of the of the sheath and I and I go to you know, snap them apart and But the the snap, you know, how they have them like where they're fixed together, Jim You know at the very top when you get the chopstick And it's not like it didn't just like leave a little short. It literally like Broke off. I don't know if there was a knot or something in these particular chopsticks But it broke off like at the very like end Like not quite the very end. It was like it gave me maybe like a quarter And so then I I was torn between do I do I use like one full-sized chopstick and one quarter size? Or do I use the other end where it's like all shard and then you have a splinter hazard when you're eating your sushi While you're trying to just enjoy your drive and your sushi I don't I don't understand. Is this just me? Is it just me? I uh, is this first world problems to its uh to its extreme? Sushi rolling gets you all the girls in california. I think that's how we do Yeah, it's how we do. Um I you know next time you're sushi rolling take your camera. We want to see this Okay So the moral of the future was you broke a chopstick while you're I drove you while you're eating for sushi. It's 2021 the moral is it's 2021 How is it we haven't figured out how to manufacture reliable chopsticks by now? I mean these are not this is not rocket scientists. It's just two pieces of wood put together I should be consistent breakage get your score right, you know, don't put knots in my In my chopsticks. So actually lightspeeds with us. He says he's sushi rolls all the time. See lightspeed knows what I'm talking about Yeah, you guys are cruising next to each other. You see who got the biggest roll then I don't know how that works I mean What I'm working on is a little like a little soy sauce tray You know that I can like clip to the rear the rear view mirror on the side Because then it's like, you know, you're here and then you're like dip dip, you know Yeah, dip dip and then here and then everybody it's just That guy's next level he's sushi rolling Would that be like like watch me dip dip watch me sushi watch me sushi roll watch me dip dip Yeah, you gotta be rolling in the dip dip. Here's a question for you though Do you do you mix your wasabi in with your soy sauce when you're when you're sushi rolling? That's bad. Uh, I am fortune. I don't eat sushi. What? Yeah So You lost me at sushi, but I just want to I need a picture of this Okay, I'll get a video next time. I'll put the GoPro up and I'll show you how to do my epic sushi rolling builders mark Buy some stainless steel ones Yeah, it's like the modern day grape rupon, but it's like You gotta need to knock those up Which were you out on my sake roll man? Come on Oh my god, I love it. Hey Tyler West just added a geary fan club to the discord He just posted that a little bit of going to chat so Here we go again you get him going Anyways, uh, but we got to give a way to do and Pooch has to go do some sushi rolling with light speed. I That's a thing It's a thing. I invented it. It's sushi rolling. I encourage you to all try it out You know what if you don't have an autonomous driving But you know, there's a lot more like lane assist modes on cars and stuff these days You know, just use your leg Just put your leg on the bottom of the wheel and then you just you're fine You know, just don't do it in like traffic. Be safe everybody. I don't think we can condone that but uh I think it's hilarious and I need to see somebody do this. That's what I think So here we go We got the wheel up. We're going to give away a $50 amazon gift card if you're here with us in the chat courtesy of things Things is with us. Thank you so much The things for uh sponsor and the show 117 entries tonight here we go wheel of fish Sticking with the fish theme tonight Yeah, but I didn't even see the spin. It was just like boom practical printing wins Not to be confused with proper printing. It's fun. It's fun But I got to tell you this It was it was definitely not rigged that I said practical printing three times in this episode Uh, and then he won $50 from thanks. Um, $50 from thanks to mr practical printing. Congrats, brother I know he's with us. So he's there. That's awesome. Thank you so much. Congratulations. I appreciate, uh, You know you watch him with us and hanging out with us proper printing. Thank you so much for hanging out with us. That was Just what an amazing interview we had with you and he said he was gonna Talk to us in the morning when he woke up like you said he was pushing a heavy desk around today. Yeah Uh anything else if we miss anything we have any Fantastic everybody for joining us. I want to thank our sponsor. Thanks for doing the giveaway. We just did now Uh, everybody that's uh, that's new or just needs a fresh reminder of hashtag hot makes on all the uh The twitter's stuff you see that's awesome and uh keep keep them coming man. We love Doing the the reviews and shared them with the world Right. I 100 agree hashtag Hot makes on twitter and if you want to see all of the hot makes in one place and don't want to go search them out On twitter you can always hit the discord Uh, they've been blasting the discord link all night and uh, there is a hot makes Tweets I believe I can't remember what it's called hot makes twitter I believe is what it's called and it puts everything in there hot makes twitter And then you can actually just go in and scroll there and see everything that's tagged Even before we show it. So that's some really cool stuff. Ooh sneak peek Yeah, thank you to everybody who's joined so far jump in there if you haven't I know, um, geary Will be in there uh pooch. Hopefully you'll jump in there and talk suit too I like to dip into discord from time to time. You know say what's up everybody more ways to engage, right more ways to consume the hot makes That's right But uh, you know, I know we're a little bit late, but thank you guys so much for hanging out with us and uh We'll see you next week. Good show jim Bye everybody. Thank you. You too. Hey great show tonight pooch. I love to thank you for popping me in there While I was eating my hot dog. I appreciate that too. Just a little you know Just a little hot dog shot Uh, if anyone caught that I know great caught that Yeah Yeah, geary's messing with me all night Uh, anyways guys. Have a great night. Thank you. We'll see you next week everybody. Have a good night everybody. See you later Thing has not stopped all night. You gotta stop. I don't even know what's happening music Oh, we're live still Bye everybody. Excuse me